Hi guys,
I've read through the fourms, I know that a JTAG is the final option, but I wanted to run this by you guys before I resort to that.
Here's my scenero:
1st generation Captivate. I have flashed tons of times. I flashed back to Eclair 2.1 Stock. I was flashing with the I897UCK1+Odin-1 Click to then flash to gingerbread. However, during the flashing process it hung on the factory.fs. I got a blue screen on the Captivate---never happened before. I did the usual when Odin hangs -- I exited out of Odin and restarted the Captivate. However, it did not restart.
I get no booting signs or a charging symbol. It's a black screen. It does get warm when I plug it into the AC to charge --- so it's doing something. It's just not showing on the screen.
Tried the "pull battery, hold down 3-button, plug into usb" dance. I have a jig I made (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0aoabVtPJ8) , haven't gotten it to work yet. Its only been about 2 hours or so though.
Any ideas? Anything is helpful before I resort to a JTAG send in or something.
Thanks.
If its not showing any sings of life, then i believe it is hardbricked.... Jtag isnt your only option you can do the Unbrickable Mod found here. Im almost certain its hard bricked, I've never had my phone compleatly unresponsive. But I could be wrong, anyone else confirm?
Right now all I am getting is some warmth when I plug it into a wall socket
If you have a Linux machine or a VM you can try this firsthttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257434
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Thanks Captain_Nero, tried it with no success. I am going to get a 1k Ohm resister and add that to my Jig to see if it does anything.
I just sent this thing in for a port repair so I really do not feel like investing anymore money into it :-\
Unbrickable mod is what I would do before jtag. If its hard bricked.
Sent from my unbrickable cappy *bam*
Its better cost the same to do (in theory easier to obtain if you want to do it yourself) and will save you from future hard bricks. And in theory could open the doors to a bunch of things thats being dev at the moment.
How hard is it to do the unbrickable mod? I have no experience with a soldering gun.
Its easier then Jtag but its still hard. There is a thread in dev section look at it.
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How hard is it to do the unbrickable mod? I have no experience with a soldering gun.
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It's easier and cheaper. JTAG requires a minimum of 6 connections assuming you already have the JTAG setup. UnBrickable mod requires two. You must have soldering skills though. Once the mod is done, recovery is very easy. This thread will show you everything you need to know and lead you to the hardware modification thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242466 . I can do it for $35 including return shipping.
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my captivate cannot turn on at all
NO galaxy s, NO atnt screen, NOTHING
dead like without battery (but i am sure the battery is half full cos i tried it on another phone)
computer won't recognize it when usb plugged
cannot charge at all, no charging screen
SO NO download mode, NO recovery mode
tried all those remove sim, remove sd, remove battery, turn on odin first, connect to pc, having 3 buttons (actually all possible combinations) press, power button release, everything i could found on forum...
the only thing i didn't try yet is the 301k resistor
have a fd making that for me, will try that soon
but i doubt it will work since the situation looks very bad
so my question is...
has anyone with the EXACT symptoms, able to unbrick at last?
if u r those who able to unbrick becos ur captivate was still able to turn on
please don't reply, i really really appreciate ur help
but sorry urs wasn't really "brick"
and those solutions aren't what i looking for
if you want to know what i did...
all i did was trying to flash to Cognition v2.3b6 from a stock 2.1 following the wiki
i watched it formatting, copying files, ... , and then it try to reboot
but instead of successful reboot it stay dead forever
great...
tested even with the 301k resistor now
no luck
Yeah sorry man. Looks like you got a bad phone. Time to call att
i wish, but i didn't buy it from atnt
no receipt no shxx
and i am in canada
You know you still have the manufacturer's warranty. One year. Call Samsung and they will refurb it for ya. I got mine in Canada too. No receipt required as long as you have the original barcode on your box.
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i got the exactly issue and symptom, anyone got a solution yet ?
The main q is: how did you brick it
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y2kstephen said:
great...
tested even with the 301k resistor now
no luck
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You're not holding onto the resistor with bare hands right?
I just get the same problem.
waiting for the solution too.
Have you tried a new battery?
This is my captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine.
your Phone most likely not bricked.
I Actually had this same problem. I really thought my phone was bricked. I would pull the battery and put it back in and nothing but a black screen. I ended up having to go into download mode from another computer. If you do this install drivers first and try to go into download by pushing both volume up and down at the same time then plug in usb cable to computer with odin opened up.
kppanic said:
You know you still have the manufacturer's warranty. One year. Call Samsung and they will refurb it for ya. I got mine in Canada too. No receipt required as long as you have the original barcode on your box.
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too bad i throw my box away too...
never expected this will happen
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The main q is: how did you brick it
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did u read my post???
if you want to know what i did...
all i did was trying to flash to Cognition v2.3b6 from a stock 2.1 following the wiki
i watched it formatting, copying files, ... , and then it try to reboot
but instead of successful reboot it stay dead forever
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norcal einstein said:
You're not holding onto the resistor with bare hands right?
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the 301k resistor tested on my gf "still" working captivate
it works
I end up took it to some cell repair shop to fix it
they said they had to replace a chip inside
and it cost me cad$150
anyway now it's fixed
but i think i am going to sell it since i don't have much faith in it anymore
i can't keep a phone that i can't flash it just becos it might never boot again
to those who have the same problem
GOOD LUCK
Doesn't it really work with the JIG?
If it doesn't work, I would not try.
If I just give the phone back to the ATT to fix it or change another one, how much should I pay?
thanks.
zehuali said:
Doesn't it really work with the JIG?
If it doesn't work, I would not try.
If I just give the phone back to the ATT to fix it or change another one, how much should I pay?
thanks.
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in my case the JIG doesn't work
but i do suggest you try it
if the JIG doesn't work for you, then it's really brick i guess
Thank you, I will try it.
我干脆说中文好了,据说关机之后,拔掉电池,然后连接usb,按挖煤键,此时再插入电池,你就能看到挖煤了界面了。。。可以试试。。。good luck。。。
Does anyone know how to initiate a JTAG with out the riff box. Im more than capable of jtaging and have tons of tools as I am an electrical engineering student. Im not getting definitive answers from people online they all want me to send the my phone and $50 to them. I know you can get RIFF software from theyre site but I wont pay $150 for the RIFF box.
adam oulter has also suggested this is possible in a thread but he never tried it. he seems to have an idea of what you need. like a computer with a parallel port and software but i think he is trying to avoid the need to try it untill he has a way to force download mode and flash the normal way even with bad bootloaders or param.ifs. that is what he is actively developing and he wants the jtag to be a backup, and the riffbox service from connexion is a backup for his backup.
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I spoke with someone from mobile tech videos on youtube about jtagging with out RIFF he said "ORT Tool or maybe the SPT box but both require the same level of soldering. I must warn you though, the Captivate is most likely harder to solder than anything you have ever done. It's pads are .1mm in size and spacing and I know many electrical engineers that consider it extremely challenging." Im just freaking out because my baby (captivate) is dead. Maybe Ill just go play dumb at AT&T or blame it on KIES since Ive seen people say the bricked the bootloader with kies
if the phone doesnt boot they cant prove anything.
Dont blame it on keis. none of the keis updates touch bootloaders. so this should not happen. dont blame bootloaders at all.
ALL YOU SAY "it stopped working. i woke up, it was dead"
THATS ALL YOU NEED TO SAY.
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adam oulter has also suggested this is possible in a thread but he never tried it. he seems to have an idea of what you need. like a computer with a parallel port and software but i think he is trying to avoid the need to try it untill he has a way to force download mode and flash the normal way even with bad bootloaders or param.ifs. that is what he is actively developing and he wants the jtag to be a backup, and the riffbox service from connexion is a backup for his backup.
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That about sums it up... however we are exploring UART, I2C, Serial, USB, and all other methods of communications supported by the Application processor... maybe even tunnling though the call processor into the application processor... Basically, if we can get something into memory and then tell the processor to execute that code, we'd be in business.
There's about 25 total external pins available on the phone, two of which we believe make up the "EXT-I2C" bus. This would allow almost direct communication with the Application Processor and OneNand. .... Gotta find those pins.
There's nearly 20 test-points on the main-board inside the phone... 5 of those testpoints are likely the "OM" pins. If we can locate and apply 3.7VDC to OM5, then we can get the memory value OM=9 to change to OM=10+ which would allow booting from the external MMC card.
Research still needs to be done and the single diagnostic output we have located thus far is UART which uses the USB port... 619kohm resistor between pins 4-5, and read/write to D+ and D- on the USB port.
All of these things need help. You can help with your brick. Bricks will put out UART communications.
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I spoke with someone from mobile tech videos on youtube about jtagging with out RIFF he said "ORT Tool or maybe the SPT box but both require the same level of soldering. I must warn you though, the Captivate is most likely harder to solder than anything you have ever done. It's pads are .1mm in size and spacing and I know many electrical engineers that consider it extremely challenging." Im just freaking out because my baby (captivate) is dead. Maybe Ill just go play dumb at AT&T or blame it on KIES since Ive seen people say the bricked the bootloader with kies
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You can contact Connexion2005. He can JTAG your phone. it's been made easy now because I located the proper jacks and recepticals, and had a couple of receptical circuitboards made for JTAG.
Just to clarify...... my definition of brick...
1. black screen
2. unresponsive to buttons or button combos
3. appears to operate equally with or without the battery
4. 301Kohm resistor between USB pins 4-5 is not effective
If it does not meet those qualifications, then it's not really bricked. it just needs to have software reloaded.
Im gonna give the jig a whirl just in case. i think I got a waranty on my phone so if jig dont work I may just tell ATT its stolen, get a new one and use the old one for testing. Ill post results of the jig afterwards. Can I just use a micro usb wall plug for jig, I only got 1 USB-micro cable and I aint cutting it lol.
Which jig? Usb or uart?
I tried to just use resistors only and I had 270k and 39k ohms which reads 298.8k on my DMM and on mobile tech videos he said he did it with 295k so it should work......but it didnt. Ripped apart my ONLY micro usb cable cable tried to touch the leads to the resistors......nothing ://....soldering Iron is warming up gotta make sure leads are solid.
Well I guess its off to AT&T lol cuz it aint doin nothin right now. Its $125 deductible If i say i lost it so no candidate for a lab rat. Now i gotta rock this busted old cracked screen samsung solstice til I get my new one. I appreciate your help immensely guys, this is why I love this community.
The RIFF will run you closer to $225 after shipping as it's all overseas and they only ship with big carriers and ground shipping.
I've been pricing them at $190 on ebay.
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I've been pricing them at $190 on ebay.
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This is true if you can find the parcel post China sellers. Good luck if you ever need support though or a return! There are definitely some defective boxes floating around that will have you pulling out your hair until your realize it's a RIFF hardware defect. One of my boxes I believe has an issue with i897 ressurection and has me thinking it's why I was successful on the the i897 I did a few days back.
Hi to all can someone tell me how to open riff jtag manager without box
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Just to clarify...... my definition of brick...
1. black screen
2. unresponsive to buttons or button combos
3. appears to operate equally with or without the battery
4. 301Kohm resistor between USB pins 4-5 is not effective
If it does not meet those qualifications, then it's not really bricked. it just needs to have software reloaded.
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I have a captivate board that you can have if you want it. I believe that it is softbricked. Though due to the busted screen I can't say for sure. I have a T959D screen that doesn't have a board which I have dremeled here and there to be able to accept the captivate board which you can have too.
If you can cover shipping it's yours or if I pay shipping could you help me with unbricking my SGH-I727R. I bricked it during a failed ODIN flashing of clockworkmod. For some reason the partition box got auto ticked the second time by the time I stopped my wide eyed loud inhale "OHHH NOO" it was all over.
I can get QHUSB mode. At least I was able to until the USB gave out. I had another USB board but it came from a corroded phone and during the cleaning I knocked off two resistors. I salvaged the same two resistors I knocked off from a the broken board. The person I got the phone from somehow managed to melt the USB cable to the phone, how this was achieved I haven't a clue.
Anyway I haven't gotten around to soldering the resistors to the board yet, I was waiting for a new soldering iron to come come in. It did the other day and I have to pick it up. Sorry for the rambling if you would like the captivate board to play with and or the T959D's screen let me know and we can arrange shipping etc...Thanks
First of all sorry for my bad English,I'm not a native.It happened when I was flashing back from i9000 rom to stock rom (I have no idea that it will brick my phone).I can't turn on my phone all I've got is black screen nothing shown up,no phone ! computer sign or Galaxy S logo.I've tried a several method to unbrick my phone but there is no luck for me.While I was trying to figured it out,my phone heated up like when you using it for a long time.Is there still a chance to get my phone back to work.I can't send it back to at&t,I'm not in the U.S.A.
Thanks
order a jig
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order a jig
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Will JIG really do the job ? I read some treads about this and it said JIG won't work if there are no phone!computer sign or galaxy S logo appear
anyway thanks for the help
Wouldn't hurt to try and you can make one for so cheap!
So...you get absolutely nothing out of it just a black screen and it heats up when plugged in, sounds like a brick to me. I'd still give a jig a try since they are easy to make and the parts are cheap, only when you try it take the battery out reinsert it, DO NOT PRESS ANY BUTTONS, insert jig, then hold both volume buttons. If that doesn't work it's a brick. You can go directly through samsung for a warranty replacement. Never have to even have an at&t contact. depending on how you aquired the device they might replace it they might not. it might be iffy if you bought it used on ebay. Don't mention anything about a custom rom, say it happened using kies. If they don't replace it, go to mobiletechvideos.com he can jtag it for 50 u.s. Dollars plus shipping...
Studacris = legend!
Was being a flashaholic, went from andro3, back to stock,then to Firefly, then followed instructions for SerendipityVII, got that working then tried to flash back to stock because Firefly was faster. It got into download mode and flashed, Odin said is passed and everything but i think the stock pda and pit files are mixed up with the GB Phone an CSC files. Jig is not working and the three buttons wont work, any ideas?
Are you getting any response out of it at all? Anything? Something to indicate whether it is trying to boot?
Sounds like you're not. Try removing battery, reinserting battery. DO NOT PRESS ANY BUTTONS. Insert jig. Hold both volume buttons down. Wait a good minute or 2 if you still get nothing out of it then I'm afraid it's a brick. Sorry
You can either try and get a warranty replacement or mobiletechvideos.com offers a jtag debrickicking service.
Check your pm
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Are you getting any response out of it at all? Anything? Something to indicate whether it is trying to boot?
Sounds like you're not. Try removing battery, reinserting battery. DO NOT PRESS ANY BUTTONS. Insert jig. Hold both volume buttons down. Wait a good minute or 2 if you still get nothing out of it then I'm afraid it's a brick. Sorry
You can either try and get a warranty replacement or mobiletechvideos.com offers a jtag debrickicking service.
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What is jtag? I mean, waiting 2 weeks for replacement from samsung is a lot better than paying 50$ for that, but what is jtag(ging?)?
Jtagging is basicly a process where the mother board is taken off, hooking it to a jtag box so it can communicate with the computer at a lower level than the usb connection and reflashing bootloaders, then the super tricky part of soldering the mother board back on. The connections are about 1mm. The captivate is one of the hardest phones to jtag because of this reason. Mobiletechvideos.com is the only place that offers this outside of a warranty replacement.
It's june so that means that the first batch phones are either out of warranty or will be in a few weeks, them more and more phones will out of warranty every month.
You will need jtag if your looking for a repair. As mentioned I can do this for you and would love to if you need my help. Just pm me...I have almost 100% success rates with Captivates and have highly likely jtagged more than anyone in the world.
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A work friend of mine had his Captivate bricked mid update by his child.
I offered to fix it, brought it back by Heimdall (2.2). Charged it for about an hour and a half, then decided to try to upgrade it to gingerbread through Kies mini on my wife's laptop. It got stuck at 4%, and after a while I figured I could use Heimdall again, then flash 2.3 through other means.
Problem is now I can't get into download mode, nor powered on to the phone ! PC screen.
I owned a captivate before switching to Sprint, soft bricked it numerous times (Odin was my best friend) haven't ran into this problem before.
What next?
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So...it does nothing at all? Just sits there like a bag o'marbles?
If so, Sounds like it failed while updating bootloaders, and if that's the case it's bricked, like brick bricked. Only unbrickable mod can bring it back.
On a side note FU kies for flashing the bootloaders FIRST, that's just dumb....they should be at the end so if it does disconnect or fail it would most likely be before it got to the dangerous part, making it a safer flash. Wtf were they thinking?
Kind of what I feared, thought it was odd that it crashed the phone that hard after only 4%.
Luckily he's already got a new phone, I was just curious if I could bring the old one back to life.
Was kind of hoping it might be a battery thing.
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So...it does nothing at all? Just sits there like a bag o'marbles?
If so, Sounds like it failed while updating bootloaders, and if that's the case it's bricked, like brick bricked. Only unbrickable mod can bring it back.
On a side note FU kies for flashing the bootloaders FIRST, that's just dumb....they should be at the end so if it does disconnect or fail it would most likely be before it got to the dangerous part, making it a safer flash. Wtf were they thinking?
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Heimdall does flash bl last. And when i make an Odin package with boots, i put them last in order.
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I'm aware.... Just another example of the inefficiency of the companies compared to us dorks who do this as a hobby.
studacris said:
So...it does nothing at all? Just sits there like a bag o'marbles?
If so, Sounds like it failed while updating bootloaders, and if that's the case it's bricked, like brick bricked. Only unbrickable mod can bring it back.
On a side note FU kies for flashing the bootloaders FIRST, that's just dumb....they should be at the end so if it does disconnect or fail it would most likely be before it got to the dangerous part, making it a safer flash. Wtf were they thinking?
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That is incorrect. You could have Mobile Tech Videos JTAG it and resurrect it. Although the unbrickable mod is the prefered solution (Hence unbrickable) JTAG is for the people who have never held a soldering iron in their hands before. They are reliable and can have your phone running stock within 5 days of mailing it off.
Off topic: why would it be so hard for samsung to solder those couple wires that make up the unbrickable mod in factory during production. Theres another defficiency in over seas companies, they try to get off doing as little work as possible. When you make a phone running an open source OS, 99% some kid in his basement is going to mod it to perform better than stock OS. which is the case of most androids. Cmon' samsung! get your act together!
Yes....jtag can bring it back, but once and then it.can be bricked again, why do that when you can send it to mobiletechvideos and get unbrickable mod applied? he offers that service too.
a solution and then A chance to brick and have to send it off again, versus a solution that is done once and then after that is fixable by the user themself...i am aware of jtag but on phones that have unbrickable mod it's really just too antiquated to be a viable option, which is why i didn't mention it.
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Yes....jtag can bring it back, but once and then it.can be bricked again, why do that when you can send it to mobiletechvideos and get unbrickable mod applied? he offers that service too.
a solution and then A chance to brick and have to send it off again, versus a solution that is done once and then after that is fixable by the user themself...i am aware of jtag but on phones that have unbrickable mod it's really just too antiquated to be a viable option, which is why i didn't mention it.
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Was not aware of that haha. Definately if deciding between JTAG for 40$ and Unbrickable mod for 45$, the 5$ will save you whole lot of time, money, and headaches.
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That is incorrect. You could have Mobile Tech Videos JTAG it and resurrect it. Although the unbrickable mod is the prefered solution (Hence unbrickable) JTAG is for the people who have never held a soldering iron in their hands before. They are reliable and can have your phone running stock within 5 days of mailing it off.
Off topic: why would it be so hard for samsung to solder those couple wires that make up the unbrickable mod in factory during production. Theres another defficiency in over seas companies, they try to get off doing as little work as possible. When you make a phone running an open source OS, 99% some kid in his basement is going to mod it to perform better than stock OS. which is the case of most androids. Cmon' samsung! get your act together!
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FYI...mobile tech videos will also do the unbrickable mod for you... either option is available from them. AdamOutler will also do it for you last i heard 30 bucks after shipping.
are you friggin kidding me?? its not just regular soldering... or a regular soldering iron. And JTag is a method of using open pads on the mainboard, used by almost all cell companies to program the phones and allows direct input/output control. And until AdamOutler's research into the processor was the only way to de-brick. oh.. and on some phones JTag requires soldering..
WIKIPEDIA Jtag.
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FYI...mobile tech videos will also do the unbrickable mod for you... either option is available from them. AdamOutler will also do it for you last i heard 30 bucks after shipping.
are you friggin kidding me?? its not just regular soldering... or a regular soldering iron. And JTag is a method of using open pads on the mainboard, used by almost all cell companies to program the phones and allows direct input/output control. And until AdamOutler's research into the processor was the only way to de-brick. oh.. and on some phones JTag requires soldering..
WIKIPEDIA Jtag.
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This is why I am tinkering with software, and not hardware ^.^. Thanks for the info.