I'm looking into buying a new laptop this week and would love to have some input in making the decision. I have narrowed it down to the HP Dv6 line.. I will need the computer to do some java compiling, rom compiling, some gaming and HD output. I want a 15" as it's not too massive to be easily portable, but still has plenty of screen estate to work with.
The two dv6 models i'm trying to decide between are the 6135dx with an AMD vision a8 processor - found here
http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/de...vilion dv6-6013cl&cp=1&lp=5&pid=1218348120631
And the 6190us with an intel i7 processor - found here http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/de...ilion dv6-6013cl&cp=1&lp=11&pid=1218354581396
The main differences between the two, besides the processors and $500 price gap, is 6gb vs 8gb of memory and 720 vs 1080 display..
Apparently the 6190 is sold out as of right now, but i'm going to call and hope they'll be getting more in soon. The only other laptop i've been really drawn to is the new Dell XPS 15z, but it's $1400.. Here's a link to that one
http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=2936073&st=Dell xps&cp=1&lp=6&pid=1218364926276
I really like this one bc of the design, slim and light power house, but lacks a number pad and finger print scanner. I just don't know if i can justify the price.
Which lap top do you think is best suited for my application? I can't decide between the two and normally would go with the i7, but the price difference is huge and the new AMD line seems to be getting pretty good reviews and benchmark results.
Any help or input in making this decision is appreciated!
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Have a look in store at them - especially screen, finish (metal or plastic), build quality, and touchpad and keyboard
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I don't know what your budget is, but I have gone through 7 laptops over the past 3 months. I couldn't find a configuration I liked. All were HP. I had a DM4, DV6, envy. Finally I got an HP Envy 14, Beats Edition and I love it. 14.5" screen, second generation i7 Quad Core processor, red backlip keyboard. 12 gigs of RAM. I love it.
Well the problem is my local BB has a horrible in store selection, so that's not much of an option. I've been to Microcenter a couple times, but their financing is not near as good as BB, (6 month 0 interest, vs 18).
Both the Dv6 i'm looking at are basically the same hardware, minus the screen and internals, so build quality is very similar. I guess my big question is, is the new AMD A- line processors worth an investment or should I spend more and get an i7 model?
I was looking at the Envy line, but i don't think I need anything on that level. Aside from that, bb doesn't appear to have the model you mentioned online at all unfortunately..
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Anyone else have some input on AMD's new 'apu' line vs the Intel i7 line?
Can't decide if i would actually benefit from an i7..
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The new AMD Llano APUs are good for graphics intensive work, but are slow in terms of the CPU itself. They're not competing yet on the high-end.
Imo, you'd be far better off with an i7 (or i5) and a decent onboard graphics chip. For the record, that's coming from an AMD user too.
I would grab yourself an ASUS or Toshiba laptop if you can, as having worked in repair shops in the past: I can tell you right off, HP are unreliable.
Hmm..ok good to know.. I've had an old hp dv1000 for about 5 years with no hardware issues, but the main reason why I'm attracted to the HP line now is the size and weight, compared to other 15" i7 models they're slimmer and lighter. Well, with the exception of the Dell 15z, but that's very pricy and i'm not sure if its worth it for me.
I've played with a few Toshiba and some feel too plasticy and same with a few Asus models..the HPs just feel very solid for the price in comparison to everything else
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What about this Samsung? I don't know much about their computers, only played with one netbook and it seemed nice, but no other experience..
It doesn't have the 1080 display which is a huge bummer tho..
"Samsung Laptop - Intel® Core™ i7 Processor - 15.6" Display - 6GB Memory" http://bit.ly/dVesXt
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Hmm..ok good to know.. I've had an old hp dv1000 for about 5 years with no hardware issues, but the main reason why I'm attracted to the HP line now is the size and weight, compared to other 15" i7 models they're slimmer and lighter. Well, with the exception of the Dell 15z, but that's very pricy and i'm not sure if its worth it for me.
I've played with a few Toshiba and some feel too plasticy and same with a few Asus models..the HPs just feel very solid for the price in comparison to everything else
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At the end of the day, it is your choice. My personal experience is that HP (Compaq), Dell and Acer (eMachines/Packard Bell) have the highest hit rate for all desktop/laptop machines. HP and Acer branches being the worst.
I recently got my girlfriend a low-end ASUS laptop (K25F?) I can vouch that it's extremely good build quality for the price. Their higher end models are even better. Lenovo/Toshiba are very good at the high end.
I use ASUS parts in all the machines I build, along with Corsair and OCZ products.
The choice is yours, I'd recommend reading up on reviews. Overclock.net is a good place to seek advice too.
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What about this Samsung? I don't know much about their computers, only played with one netbook and it seemed nice, but no other experience..
It doesn't have the 1080 display which is a huge bummer tho..
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Samsung are very good imo, I use Samsung for all monitors/TV. I've had a couple of charger ports to repair in the past, but no more so than other manufacturers.
Thank you for your reply, your opinion is definitely valued and taken into consideration. I suppose I should try to steer clear of HP then. BB doesn't have a great selection of Asus computers, mainly low end ones. I'm trying to stay in the 1200 max range and get the best bang for my buck.
I found a Lenovo with very similar specs to the Samsung I mentioned above -
"Lenovo Laptop - Intel® Core™ i7 Processor - 15.6" Display - 6GB Memory" http://bit.ly/oA20EM
Between the two manufacturers, who would you recommend?
Thanks again for your help.
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I'd definitely choose the Lenovo, it has a better GPU, more weight yet thinner (as ridiculous as it sounds heavier products tend to have better build quality) and it's $150 cheaper. It also looks better
The Samsung however does have USB 3.0 ports, I can't find any listed information on the Lenovo.
EDIT: The Lenovo has USB 3.0 ports. Definitely the better bang for buck.
Awesome! Thanks so much for your help,it's really appreciated. I'm swinging by Best Buy on lunch to see if they have it in store
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Not a problem, drop me a message if you have any questions. Good luck!
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My MacBook finally met it's tragic end, so it's time to get myself a new laptop. I likely won't be getting another Mac, as a lot of the software I'm using in my classes has me run Windows 7 anyways, not to mention I'd like to not spend $1500. Ideally:
* Build quality. My biggest factor. If the build quality sucks, than I will not buy it.
* Build. Another big factor. I'd like it to have similar height dimensions to my MacBook, so around 1.02 inches tall.
* Good screen, good resolution. Another fairly big factor. It doesn't have to have the BEST screen, but a decent resolution would be great.
* Snappy processor. Speaks for itself.
* Price: $800 is my upper limit.
Thanks guys
Congrats for leaving the forbidden fruit and coming to the7 windows
I have 4 laptops from HP ranging in size from 14-17 inches. All dv series. All have been very good performers and the most I paid for one was 750.00 for the 17in screen.
Intel dualcore processors, 4gb ram, 500gb hard drive, blue ray player.
Hp laptops are garbage , made of the cheapest plastic to be found , and the cool factor is also in the negatives , op needs a Sony and he knows it well , decide whats series ud like and buy it from ebay for better price
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I go for the long experienced and durable Toshiba
Asus and gateway both make quality laptops.
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Sony, Hp , gateway and Asus. and Dell for business. Remaining shouldn't even be made laptops
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Hp laptops are garbage
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Asus seriously the best.
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Asus seriously the best.
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NO THERE NOT!
toshiba sucks! build quality is terrible!
On my experience all the contrary, only good experiences with Tosh so I´m loyal to that brand
I have had HP, Dell, Toshiba. HP flat out sucked. It just seemed like an all around horrible buy. Dell is great for work computers and that is it. (IMO)
I currently have a couple different Toshiba's. (Laptops & netbooks) My very first expierence with a Toshiba laptop was when I went overseas for the first time. I bought what at the time was a middle to upper end in store laptop. That laptop made it through extreme heat, sand, etc. It took a flat out beating and still to this day works great. Granted its some years old so it's no longer on the top end but for what it is, and how it still works- WOW.
My personal opinion would be Toshiba but this is because of my expierence. Everyone will have something different to say and I'm sure there is probably different arguements where it comes to the actual hardware.
Good luck!
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On my experience all the contrary, only good experiences with Tosh so I´m loyal to that brand
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+1 and then some...
I have a HP DV7t. Pretty solid.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220755
Decent platform there!
Quad core Phenom II 1.6ghz per core(don't let the clocked rate fool you though, it's pretty speedy for a mobile platform)
4gb of ddr3 1066
ATI Radeon HD 5730 1gb ddr3
500gb sataII(Not sure if it's 5400 rpm, or 7200 rpm)
6-cell lithium Ion battery.
1366x728 resolution, not the highest but it's decent.
That's the one I would go for, but there are others.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220707
Right now Alienware has a special on the M11x series, smaller laptop but it is fast and powerful. It also features Nvidia Optimus, so if you're not using the 335m, you can switch to the onboard video to save battery life.
http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-m11x/pd?refid=alienware-m11x&~ck=mn
Lenovo
If you want a good laptop buy a Lenovo. Its a bit expensive but it's very solid and well designed.
So I'm in the market for a new desktop. Its been 8 or so years since a last purchased a PC. Intel or AMD and why? Not looking for super powerhouse ultra gaming rig. Just a reliable fast family computer. I've been looking at either gateway Dx series or HP elite.
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Far better off with a custom built than any branded stuff...even if you get someone to build it for you...cheaper..in most cases more reliable and easier to repair if anything does go wrong. Mine is still going strong from a good four years ago and by strong I mean playing the latest games with ease...works out cheaper in long run too...
I know you said dont need a gaming rig...I myself dont really use it for gaming but just like to use games as a benchmark.
How much are you looking to spend?
Not a whole lot. 600 to 700. Buy.com has a gateway I was checking out. Dx 4320_17. 600 shipped.
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Dude...
1. You live in the US. Heard of newegg.com? It'll save you a few hundred bucks. Just come back with the specs that you want and I'll help you balance the thing.
2. I personally support AMD (underdog syndrome), but you should support Intel at the moment (the Core i7 is awesome, and so is the Sandy Bridge series). AMD might have Bulldozer to brag about, but until it arrives in the market, I can't see the benefit.
3. For mid-range usage, AMD will definitely trump Intel when it comes to price-to-performance ratios.
4. If you wanna game a little, get a nice mobo with Crossfire and invest in a upper-mid range GPU from AMD/ATI. Once new games are semi-unplayable, invest in another GPU and Crossfire that rig. Their Crossfire solutions are much better than NVIDIA can ever claim to reach.
5. Invest in a good 20+" monitor. You'll love me for this.
I've never done a build your own system. I'm after something like a phenom x4 or x6, 1tb hd, 8gb ram. There are a couple on newegg in the do it yourself section that look pretty damn close to what I'm after. I just don't know good components from so so components. Like what type of ram, what brand motherboard. That kinda stuff.
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I would say occasionally check sites like woot.com or slick deals and just
find the best deal you can on the PC with a decent amount of RAM and disk space. Even if you aren't heavy into games RAM, Disk space will be your friends. Im more of an intel fan boy myself so I would suggest an i3 or even an older dual core will do the job as well.
Problem is if you don't already have a monitor/keyboard - that $500.00 at Newegg is going to get you the same type of computer you'd already be purchasing.
My recommendation is to get the HP vs. the Gateway. I've worked on both types and the new HP's seem to be using a little bit better of quality equipment. Sure the onboard everything blows... but you could in the future rip out the mother board and get a video/sound card later.
Just make sure your not getting some funky type of mini-ATX setup otherwise you'll be throwing out the computer within a few years.
For a decent home built system you'd need about $1000.00
$200.00 for a monitor
$ 50-100.00 for the case
$ 100-200.00 for the PSU
$ 100 for a Vid Card
$ 75-100.00 for Mobo
$ 80-200.00 for CPU
$ 80-200.00 for Memory
$ 50.00 for decent keyboard/mouse
You can play with the amounts... but you would want to "future-proof" and try and get components that you can upgrade later.
I figure the mouse and keyboard I can use from my current setup. Both logitech. Same with my 23"monitor. Or I could run hdmi to my 58"plasma. So I'm cool there. The mobo looks like its amd 880 series. Mid tower. phenom II 6 core. 700 w psu. Blu ray. 8gb ram. For about $600.
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think about sandy bridge cpu's. great performance and very good for it's price.
Amd powa
For Dell,
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellst...1&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&model_id=inspiron-570
HP
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883147692
Prebuilt with a monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103350
For a monitor, find one on newegg for cheap.
Check out Newegg's combo deals:
http://www.newegg.com/Special/Combo...o&action=search&SortField=0&PageSize=50&Page=
This one looks good:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.569868
one thing to be careful though, the PCIE slot is 16x and 4x, which means the second card will be crippled.
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Check out Newegg's combo deals:
http://www.newegg.com/Special/Combo...o&action=search&SortField=0&PageSize=50&Page=
This one looks good:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.569868
one thing to be careful though, the PCIE slot is 16x and 4x, which means the second card will be crippled.
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The first and second slots probably aren't even gonna be used...
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The first and second slots probably aren't even gonna be used...
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I recommended that unit because it is quite future proof. 700w, Phenom II x6, decent mobo for single card GPU. It caters to the power user while having the potential to upgrade to a upper-mainstream gaming rig.
And it is within his budget and specifications (albeit not the 8GB RAM).
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Check out Newegg's combo deals:
http://www.newegg.com/Special/Combo...o&action=search&SortField=0&PageSize=50&Page=
This one looks good:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.569868
one thing to be careful though, the PCIE slot is 16x and 4x, which means the second card will be crippled.
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Funny. I've had that one in my cart for three days to compare to others.
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Funny. I've had that one in my cart for three days to compare to others.
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The combo is kinda ok if you are not planning on going crossfire. Like I said, the major weakness of the mobo is that it runs on 16x+4x crossfire, instead of 16x+16x slots. I am using its predecessor. My next major upgrade will be a mobo that does REAL crossfire instead
No crossfire here. I don't do pc gaming anymore. At least not enough to warrant a crossfire setup. A single 5870 will be 10 times what I need.
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No crossfire here. I don't do pc gaming anymore. At least not enough to warrant a crossfire setup. A single 5870 will be 10 times what I need.
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You should probably go for a higher end GPU if you can afford it. Saves upgrading in the long run and flexibility to support multi-monitor setup later.
I have been looking for a new laptop but can't decide, I'll list specs that I'd want for my future laptop:
Intel i7 processor
500gb+ hdd
4gb+ ram
1gb dedicated graphics
1920x1080 resolution
at least 5+ hr battery life
under 6lb
Thats about it. Any help would be appreciated .
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I have been looking for a new laptop but can't decide, I'll list specs that I'd want for my future laptop:
Intel i7 processor
500gb+ hdd
4gb+ ram
1gb dedicated graphics
1920x1080 resolution
at least 5+ hr battery life
under 6lb
Thats about it. Any help would be appreciated .
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Alienware? What kind of gpu?
AOKP 4 LYF
Do you have a budget or are you rich? Laptops are so expensive!
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I always recommend to my friends, Dell.
Good quality and prices (No, i don't work for Dell )
I just ordered an HP with an i7 quad core processor (2.4Ghz)
an HD screen
2GB Radeon Graphics card
A dual drive (160GB SSD/500GB HDD)
8GB RAM
9 cell battery
and a 17.3 screen
It cost a crap load though
I'll post pics when it gets here
But it isn't under 6lbs.
Maybe a Dell XPS? They are lighter
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macbook, i know the prices are high and the specs arent the best but my 06 macbook runs like brand new seriously all my friends and i got new laptops after graduating in 06 i got a macbook n they all bought a pc type, now 6 years later they all went through 2-3 laptops and ended up giving in n buying a macbook now they are all fans of it n love it no problems so far
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Alienware? What kind of gpu?
AOKP 4 LYF
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Idk which is better, AMD Radeon or NVIDIA geforce?
det1988 said:
macbook, i know the prices are high and the specs arent the best but my 06 macbook runs like brand new seriously all my friends and i got new laptops after graduating in 06 i got a macbook n they all bought a pc type, now 6 years later they all went through 2-3 laptops and ended up giving in n buying a macbook now they are all fans of it n love it no problems so far
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I heard that for durability macbooks are the way to go and for max performance (what I need) PC's are better. Im also a big DIY person so I need a laptop that when the warranty ends, I can take it apart without much hassle. At one time i wanted a macbook but I just dont feel like its for me.
Samsung nowadays has cheap/budget laptops with great specs. But sad that when it comes to laptops, everyone only thinks about Dell, Sony Vaio, HP, etc..
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Samsung nowadays has cheap/budget laptops with great specs. But sad that when it comes to laptops, everyone only thinks about Dell, Sony Vaio, HP, etc..
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I found 2 laptops that im interested in: Samsung series 7 chronos and ASUS N55SF I liked the Samsung cause it was portable and powerful and same for the ASUS.
I don't see whats wrong with dell, Im using a dell that I've had for almost 4 years even though at one point it broke but it wasn't my fault. Dells in my opinion seem like they can take a beating and keep on running my processor gets average ratings in the windows score index and overall there weren't any major problems that I've had with Dell
Any Samgsung series 7 or 9 are REALLY nice. i'd definietly recommend em.
Without any doubt Dells are good. But due to their Brand name, the offer price is high and when compared to Samsung, not only the price is less, but also you'll get major increment in the hardware specs.
An example should be a Dell Inspiron comes with :-
Intel core i3 2nd gen/3GB RAM/320GB HDD/14" screen/1.3MP cam/No OS/Glossy screen
whereas a Samsung (no idea about model) comes with :-
Intel core i3 2nd gen/4GB RAM/750GB HDD/15" screen(with numpad keys)/1.3MP cam/No OS/Matt-finish non reflective screen
And the price is, Samsung still is under for some penny's than Dell Inspiron.
Not sure whether its true, but heard Samsung provides "their own" produced hardwares to their Laptops except processor. But in case of Dell/HP/Vaio the HDD should be Seagate/Samsung or RAM should be of Transcend's.
Just don't buy any Toshiba...
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I just ordered an HP with an i7 quad core processor (2.4Ghz)
an HD screen
2GB Radeon Graphics card
A dual drive (160GB SSD/500GB HDD)
8GB RAM
9 cell battery
and a 17.3 screen
It cost a crap load though
I'll post pics when it gets here
But it isn't under 6lbs.
Maybe a Dell XPS? They are lighter
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how much did you pay for those specs?
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how much did you pay for those specs?
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1800 about...after 450$ in in instant rebates
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Just don't buy any Toshiba...
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why not? me and my dad both have toshiba laptops, they're the most reliable things ever.
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1800 about...after 450$ in in instant rebates
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That's a lot... Did you use coupon?
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1800 about...after 450$ in in instant rebates
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If I had the same amount, I would go for Alienware m15
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If I had the same amount, I would go for Alienware m15
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I would avoid Alienware like the plague, they're just a pretty looking Dell with a different sticker on it.
Personally I use:
http://www.hhgregg.com/asus-laptop-pc-with-intel-i7-2670qm-processor/item/G74SXRH71
ASUS ROG. I have the next step up from this model. They run cold, quiet, and are just straight up beast for the money.
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That's a lot... Did you use coupon?
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Yes. I went to LogicBuy first. The savings without it was 100$ less.
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Was debating on buying the nexus 7 due to its nexus status .
2 questions.
1- there are many other 7 inch tablets for less price than 200...
sure some are no names, but is this THAT much better?
2- Planning on sending it to another country. mexico to be exact.
It should still work the same right if it connects to wifi?
thanks
Well, budget tablets are most likely going to have a slower processor, lower resolution, older version of android, etc. If these things aren't important to you/him/her, get a cheap one.
As far as Mexico, you'd need to do some research on what services work there. Play Store content and services like Google Music and Pandora are blocked in some countries. You should probably make sure even the Nexus 7 will work there. Not trying to dissuade you, but make sure you don't have surprises waiting for you.
Edit: make sure your budget tablet has a capacitive touch screen and not a resistive one. Still seeing resistive screens around for some reason and they aren't worth a dime.
yes that makes sense...
the whole point is for fiance to skype or tango to her mom over there. Important aspect is that the device doesnt have issues, and is supported. Seeing how its a nexus device, i would assume google will update it with priority if there are any issues with it. Its not like i can have her ship it back or fix anything with her so far away and not understanding anything about tech.
ill have to see what results ill have connecting to the internet over there or downloading apps from the market.. worse case is i can download everything i need and install it here before i ship it.
thanks for the advice...
check out Ainol Elf II or Aurora II
Something to keep in mind is the Nexus 7 is sold at pretty much no profit.
While those cheaper 7 inch tablets are sold at a profit. Common sense says those cheaper tablets are using considerably cheaper parts and build quality to be cheaper and profitable.
I'm pretty sure there is no sub $200 tablet that has a 1280x800 IPS display and quad core processor or even comes close. I think this really is that much better.
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Something to keep in mind is the Nexus 7 is sold at pretty much no profit.
While those cheaper 7 inch tablets are sold at a profit. Common sense says those cheaper tablets are using considerably cheaper parts and build quality to be cheaper and profitable.
I'm pretty sure there is no sub $200 tablet that has a 1280x800 IPS display and quad core processor or even comes close. I think this really is that much better.
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Yeap, I agree, the Nexus 7 is the best price for the above avg specs that are included.
$200 is stupid affordable for a tablet with these specs, you shouldn't even be considering anything else lol
There is NOTHING better for the price.
The only reason for you not to get it would be if Google Play won't work in your country, and there may even be ways around that.
I just read that Archos is releasing a new line of tablets which one or more is aimed right at the nexus 7. its rumored to be same price.
pros: it will have
-microsd card
-HDMI out
-same resolution as nexus 7
cons:
-slower processor that's not more powerful CPU or gpu wise than tegra3
-will ship will ICS....who knows when it'll get jellybean
-not likely to have huge xda developer support following like nexus7 is showing already
-was said that build quality not as good or solid as nexus 7
The only other tablet that you might want to consider is the T-Mobile branded springboard:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones...d&cell-phone=T-Mobile-SpringBoard-Prepaid-MBB
Qualcomm MSM8260 Dual core, 1200 MHz
1200x800 (217ppi, IPS)
capacitive
1GB RAM
16GB storage
micro SD slot
micro USB
front facing 1.3MP camera, rear 5.0MP camera
4100mah battery
and obviously t-mobile 4G capable
HDMI
it is on sale right now for $250 and works with t-mobile's 4G/3G frequencies.
It is a re-branded Huawei MediaPad, and for those people that can't live without a microSD slot and HDMI out and want the option of using a SIM for data on the go this is probably the best deal out there currently.
That being said, I'm going with the Nexus 7 hand's down.
Been down the "surely the cheap tablets from China aren't that bad, right?" path before. Have a 10" Zenithink C91.
Pros:
Had cool things, like OTG & HDMI at a price well under any competitor similarly equipped.
Easy to open to get at the HW.
Cons:
The TFT screen in a tablet form SUCKS. At minimum, only consider something with a capacitive IPS screen.
I was sold an "ICS" tablet. Their version of ICS came with no support, no source, was buggy, and crashed constantly on the 512MB of RAM. Flashed the table to GB, and the experience got a whole lot better.
When these manufacturers make a new device, old devices are left to rot - no firmware updates.
Bottom Line:
Cheap tablets offer cool tricks if you can't afford the do-it-all Transformer Infinity's of the world.
But they come with no support from the manufacturer, no ability to roll your own distro, and are often oversold on their capability.
With name brand tablets being sold for a mere $200 these days, I would stick with the name brands.
The no name ones also pretty much always don't have working ics 2d gpu acceleration
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I would recommend Archos.
New product
It might be worth looking into that, they will have sizes from 7, 8, 9.7 inc
The most expensive is to be 250$
There is still a Nexus 7 vs IdeaPad A2109 running,
but now that the A2107 is available (at least in some Asian countries)
it seems more logical to compare the Nexus 7 with this other 7" tablet rather than with the 9" one.
The A2107 in Hong-Kong is today at 3/4 price of A2109.
It should make the 16 GB version at about $225 in USA while the Nexus 7 is $249 .
A2107 details: lenovo.co.uk , including 3G and microSD port
A preview can be found on trustedreviews.com or asking Google
More pictures on China Lenovo propotion page : http://shop.lenovo.com.cn/promotion/a2107
Oukiva said:
There is still a Nexus 7 vs IdeaPad A2109 running,
but now that the A2107 is available (at least in some Asian countries)
it seems more logical to compare the Nexus 7 with this other 7" tablet rather than with the 9" one.
The A2107 in Hong-Kong is today at 3/4 price of A2109.
It should make the 16 GB version at about $225 in USA while the Nexus 7 is $249 .
A2107 details: lenovo.co.uk , including 3G and microSD port
A preview can be found on trustedreviews.com or asking Google
More pictures on China Lenovo propotion page : http://shop.lenovo.com.cn/promotion/a2107
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I got the baby - the Lenovo A2107 - in my hands at the moment... It's quite a nice piece of hardware... Quite responsive, web browsing with the stock browser is fine, videos are played correctly...
The slate fits quite nicely in the hands... The size is quite close from my GTab 7", just a bit slimmer.
The display is good, good enough to read a pdf on the go (I don't really like tabs to read ebooks for a long time). I haven't seen the Nexus yet, but I feel that, with proper resellers, it could find its way to a number of homes...
I'd easily get used to it... Too bad it's not mine...
Considering my screen decided to crack without me throwing it against the wall or dropping it or anything like that, I'm looking at alternatives to the Nexus 7 now since I'm not sure ASUS will own up to their obvious design flaw that caused the issue. The only thing that catches my eye is the processor. Is it a dual core or quad core? I'm having trouble finding definitive references to it online. I'd assume at that price it'd be a dual, but who knows... and the resolution is a little :/ but other than that the rest of it is enticing.
Lenovo IdeaTab A2107 specs:
http://device.androidcommunity.com/ideatab-a2107-3183/
Video hands-on:
The A2107 is a successor to 1107, and has similar specs & pricing. The main hook is its built-in 3G and dual-SIM support, which matters more for regions outside of the US. Otherwise, features and specs are lackluster, with MediaTek MTK6575 SoC and 1024x600 TN LCD, and aren't competitive with the Nexus 7.
e.mote said:
Lenovo IdeaTab A2107 specs:
http://device.androidcommunity.com/ideatab-a2107-3183/
Video hands-on:
The A2107 is a successor to 1107, and has similar specs & pricing. The main hook is its built-in 3G and dual-SIM support, which matters more for regions outside of the US. Otherwise, features and specs are lackluster, with MediaTek MTK6575 SoC and 1024x600 TN LCD, and aren't competitive with the Nexus 7.
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Well that's a severe bummer.
e.mote said:
Lenovo IdeaTab A2107 specs:
Otherwise, features and specs are lackluster, with MediaTek MTK6575 SoC and 1024x600 TN LCD, and aren't competitive with the Nexus 7.
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Not competitive? Depends...
The processor is maybe not the one of the Nexus 7 but the same we find in the Samsung Galaxy Note and all reviews said this phone/tablet was really responsive.
The screen is maybe not the excellent one of the Nexus 7 but is a good one. Not every one is fan of these high resolutions. For me it's mean I having to zoom most of the time on Nexus 7 to be able to read...
Final point is that the 3G Nexus 7 will be probably 40% or $100 more expensive that this model and will still not have microSD.
Not such a bad choice.
After hearing about these Lenovo tablets and having my Nexus 7 screen randomly crack without dropping I decided to look further into a Nexus 7 replacement. Here are the two ultimate bummers I've found about these Lenovo tablets.
2107 = dual core, not quad core
2109 = quad core, but TN panel
Maybe I'm just severely spoiled, but really? A TN panel in a brand new 2012 tablet?
LENOVO Idea Pad A2107A - A lot of questions ??? Please help me !!!
hello,
i bought the new lenovo ideapad a2107a in germany last week.
unfortunately there is no good support by lenovo until now.
i want to buy the original case shown on lenovo us website but can´t find it on web.
where can i buy it ???
another question is, i read about a build in fm-radio at the tablet, but i can´t find the way to switch it on.
can anybody help me ?
and i don´t understand why there are 2 sim slots for 3g / gsm. is there any telephon function too ?
i hope there is somebody who can help me ?
where can i find a manual and description which shows me all functions ?
thank you and best wishes
herbert
N7, FTW!
Pure Google just can't be beaten, especially for Those of us that like to tinker!
Oukiva said:
Not competitive? Depends...
The processor is maybe not the one of the Nexus 7 but the same we find in the Samsung Galaxy Note and all reviews said this phone/tablet was really responsive.
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The 2107 has a single core MediaTek 1GHz CPU. The Galaxy Note has a 1.4GHz dual core Exynos. I don't know how crappy the MediaTek is (never even heard of it before) but my gut tells me there is a world of difference between that 1GHz single core and the 1.4GHz dual core SoCs.
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The screen is maybe not the excellent one of the Nexus 7 but is a good one. Not every one is fan of these high resolutions. For me it's mean I having to zoom most of the time on Nexus 7 to be able to read...
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When we complain about the Nexus 7 screen, it's usually in relation to other high end IPS displays. However even with is substandard color quality, the Nexus 7 IPS display at 1280x800 is going to be a LOT better looking than a TN 1024x600 display.
And you have it backwards. Higher resolution displays mean you don't have to zoom in more to read. Lower resolution means the text is less clear forcing you to do the zooming more often.
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Final point is that the 3G Nexus 7 will be probably 40% or $100 more expensive that this model and will still not have microSD.
Not such a bad choice.
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It may not be a bad deal if you have to have 3G on your tablet for $230 (or something). This is going to be a small number of people. Most could probably just tether with a phone and save money on the extra data plan.
But this is a pretty low end tablet and not even in the same ballpark as a Nexus 7. I can't imagine why anyone would want this, except for the possible need for 3G on a very cheap tablet.
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JaSauders said:
2107 = dual core, not quad core
2109 = quad core, but TN panel
Maybe I'm just severely spoiled, but really? A TN panel in a brand new 2012 tablet?
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From what I was able to dig up, the 2107 isn't even dual core, it's a single core. And a TN panel on a tablet is an instant deal breaker.
JaSauders said:
After hearing about these Lenovo tablets and having my Nexus 7 screen randomly crack without dropping I decided to look further into a Nexus 7 replacement. Here are the two ultimate bummers I've found about these Lenovo tablets.
2107 = dual core, not quad core
2109 = quad core, but TN panel
Maybe I'm just severely spoiled, but really? A TN panel in a brand new 2012 tablet?
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The ten panel isn't as bad as you think. Still 170 ppi and decent colors. Just the viewing angles is all. Which isn't as bad since its not like you'll be frequently looking at it from an angle. Plus your friends won't be able to see what you're doing, which can be good lol
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Hard to argue against a Nexus tablet IMO, unless the other tablet being compared is just as powerful but somehow a lot cheaper.
lag
Its just me or some1 else saw a lag when the guy rotate the screen? (creepy)
CWM/CM?
Is there any chance to run CyanogenMod 9+ on this marvel?
I've seen a post about a port of CM on Lenovo tablet, but I fear it's for a different unit.
Any other info?
how is the camera? [email protected]
nioupy said:
I got the baby - the Lenovo A2107 - in my hands at the moment... It's quite a nice piece of hardware... Quite responsive, web browsing with the stock browser is fine, videos are played correctly...
The slate fits quite nicely in the hands... The size is quite close from my GTab 7", just a bit slimmer.
The display is good, good enough to read a pdf on the go (I don't really like tabs to read ebooks for a long time). I haven't seen the Nexus yet, but I feel that, with proper resellers, it could find its way to a number of homes...
I'd easily get used to it... Too bad it's not mine...
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Have you tried the rear camera? Is it Autofocus? I'm looking to get one and use if for detailed fairly close-up shots. I just got a Galaxy Tab 2; the camera is fixed focus and not good at all for anything close up. Also, the Tab 2 does not allow programs/aps on the miniSD card. How about the speakers and the battery so far? thanks!
Google update, always the nexus...
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OP should update the prices to reflect the current 32/16 gig N7 pricing.
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i got the lenovo for 200€
screen is good, gps responsive, wifi reception great.
it handles lag free, besides when rotating screens. dual sim is a nice touch. would buy it again any day.
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ps: rooten is easy too. just did a repost over there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005349
valravn said:
i got the lenovo for 200€
screen is good, gps responsive, wifi reception great.
it handles lag free, besides when rotating screens. dual sim is a nice touch. would buy it again any day.
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ps: rooten is easy too. just did a repost over there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005349
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Agreed only needs a fix for rotating screens otherwise very good
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Ps feel free to check out my thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2067791