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Note vs Padphone?

Silly question but I'm still interested in how you guys think the note fairs over the padphone.
post opinions here.

You know of course that there is a small phone unit in our Notes!.
Seriously though,I am the kind of guy who likes to keep his handset in touch and not sort of abuse it by constantly snaping in and out,or box it away in another device or a tab for that matter,since mmy Note does both jobs excellently the Padphone is not for me, actualy not even considered it.

The padfone idea is pretty cool but the specs suck. Would love an accessory to the note with a large highres OLED screen though.
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Zamboney said:
The padfone idea is pretty cool but the specs suck. Would love an accessory to the note with a large highres OLED screen though.
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Second that. Looks cool. Kinda lame specs. Couldn't see my self using one. I have a phablet and a tablet so I'm content
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DOGSofDOOM said:
Second that. Looks cool. Kinda lame specs. Couldn't see my self using one. I have a phablet and a tablet so I'm content
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If the PadFone were a Tegra 3 or TI OMAP 5 or something badass like that, then I would be more tempted.

The Padphone has wins in everything except screen resolution which is negated via tablet.
Snapdragon S4 > Tegra 3 and Exynos 4210.

Very interested... am looking forward to hit actually hitting the market.
(or even announcing pricing would be nice)

if someone creates a 4" phone with a 7"screen then I would say a true combination of portability and big screen functionality.
For Note, the size is still a little too big for portability, while it's a little too small as a tablet.
For padphone, it's not very portable (need to carry a pad and a phone).

I love the idea. If the specs are not up to it, then a waste of effort.
I can see it working really well for the Note, imagine the 10" Note as a dumb terminal for the Note? That would be cool. I imagine Samsung would have to pay Asus quite a bit for the inevitable patent, however.

Spartoi said:
The Padphone has wins in everything except screen resolution which is negated via tablet.
Snapdragon S4 > Tegra 3 and Exynos 4210.
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dunno what the heck everyone else in here is talking about but you seem to know what youre talking about.
its not a last gen snapdragon, its a next gen snapdragon. it may not be the S4 pro, but the S4 is already pretty darn fast. for those who havent seen it, the snapdragon S4 dual core outperforms the tegra3 quad core chipset in almost all CPU tasks - thats a dual core beating a quad core.
so NO, the padfone specs do not suck. it has much more processing power than we have, and even though it doesnt have the next gen qualcomm GPUs, it doesnt need it when its in phone mode since it runs at a lower res in phone mode.
the only question is how well will it perform in tablet mode.

Souai said:
dunno what the heck everyone else in here is talking about but you seem to know what youre talking about.
its not a last gen snapdragon, its a next gen snapdragon. it may not be the S4 pro, but the S4 is already pretty darn fast. for those who havent seen it, the snapdragon S4 dual core outperforms the tegra3 quad core chipset in almost all CPU tasks - thats a dual core beating a quad core.
so NO, the padfone specs do not suck. it has much more processing power than we have, and even though it doesnt have the next gen qualcomm GPUs, it doesnt need it when its in phone mode since it runs at a lower res in phone mode.
the only question is how well will it perform in tablet mode.
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I actually just skimmed it from my phone and saw dual core snapdragon and assumed. If its s4 then ya screen res is really its only draw back
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Unless Asus plans on upgrading the phone each year and keeping it the same dimensions so people can keep the tablet and still upgrade their phones....then I think Padphone idea would be smart. Problem is, every Android company changes their device design which is why they never can keep up with Apple. If Motorola made the lapdock so the it wouldn't need a tethering plan, I think the Atrix may have sold better AND they could have made a docking tablet and cornered the market. The Atrix (for me) was a great phone but At&t and Motorola hosed it up.

Phoneguy589 said:
Unless Asus plans on upgrading the phone each year and keeping it the same dimensions so people can keep the tablet and still upgrade their phones....then I think Padphone idea would be smart. Problem is, every Android company changes their device design which is why they never can keep up with Apple. If Motorola made the lapdock so the it wouldn't need a tethering plan, I think the Atrix may have sold better AND they could have made a docking tablet and cornered the market. The Atrix (for me) was a great phone but At&t and Motorola hosed it up.
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i don't think it's a problem since you upgrade the phone and the tablet at the same time for like 20% price more than just a phone
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I actually just skimmed it from my phone and saw dual core snapdragon and assumed. If its s4 then ya screen res is really its only draw back
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if it wasn't PenTile screen the res wouldn't be a drawback
your thinking is exactly the reason why have to sufer the pain of PenTile screens

The padphone looks handsome tho
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Snapdragon S4 > Tegra 3 and Exynos 4210.
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Wow.
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padfone is nice if you are into "3-in-1" thingy. why own an ultrabook, a tablet and a phone; when you can have all of it in one price/package?
but for me, GNote is good enough.
phone - checked.
tablet - changed dpi to tablet mode. and walla, it's a tablet. phablet? the same.
ultrabook - get some wireless keyboard, and hook GNote to big ass LCD screen...
GNote wins hands down...

other 7 inches less price? Work out of country

Was debating on buying the nexus 7 due to its nexus status .
2 questions.
1- there are many other 7 inch tablets for less price than 200...
sure some are no names, but is this THAT much better?
2- Planning on sending it to another country. mexico to be exact.
It should still work the same right if it connects to wifi?
thanks

Well, budget tablets are most likely going to have a slower processor, lower resolution, older version of android, etc. If these things aren't important to you/him/her, get a cheap one.
As far as Mexico, you'd need to do some research on what services work there. Play Store content and services like Google Music and Pandora are blocked in some countries. You should probably make sure even the Nexus 7 will work there. Not trying to dissuade you, but make sure you don't have surprises waiting for you.
Edit: make sure your budget tablet has a capacitive touch screen and not a resistive one. Still seeing resistive screens around for some reason and they aren't worth a dime.

yes that makes sense...
the whole point is for fiance to skype or tango to her mom over there. Important aspect is that the device doesnt have issues, and is supported. Seeing how its a nexus device, i would assume google will update it with priority if there are any issues with it. Its not like i can have her ship it back or fix anything with her so far away and not understanding anything about tech.
ill have to see what results ill have connecting to the internet over there or downloading apps from the market.. worse case is i can download everything i need and install it here before i ship it.
thanks for the advice...

check out Ainol Elf II or Aurora II

Something to keep in mind is the Nexus 7 is sold at pretty much no profit.
While those cheaper 7 inch tablets are sold at a profit. Common sense says those cheaper tablets are using considerably cheaper parts and build quality to be cheaper and profitable.
I'm pretty sure there is no sub $200 tablet that has a 1280x800 IPS display and quad core processor or even comes close. I think this really is that much better.

Ravynmagi said:
Something to keep in mind is the Nexus 7 is sold at pretty much no profit.
While those cheaper 7 inch tablets are sold at a profit. Common sense says those cheaper tablets are using considerably cheaper parts and build quality to be cheaper and profitable.
I'm pretty sure there is no sub $200 tablet that has a 1280x800 IPS display and quad core processor or even comes close. I think this really is that much better.
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Yeap, I agree, the Nexus 7 is the best price for the above avg specs that are included.

$200 is stupid affordable for a tablet with these specs, you shouldn't even be considering anything else lol

There is NOTHING better for the price.
The only reason for you not to get it would be if Google Play won't work in your country, and there may even be ways around that.

I just read that Archos is releasing a new line of tablets which one or more is aimed right at the nexus 7. its rumored to be same price.
pros: it will have
-microsd card
-HDMI out
-same resolution as nexus 7
cons:
-slower processor that's not more powerful CPU or gpu wise than tegra3
-will ship will ICS....who knows when it'll get jellybean
-not likely to have huge xda developer support following like nexus7 is showing already
-was said that build quality not as good or solid as nexus 7

The only other tablet that you might want to consider is the T-Mobile branded springboard:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones...d&cell-phone=T-Mobile-SpringBoard-Prepaid-MBB
Qualcomm MSM8260 Dual core, 1200 MHz
1200x800 (217ppi, IPS)
capacitive
1GB RAM
16GB storage
micro SD slot
micro USB
front facing 1.3MP camera, rear 5.0MP camera
4100mah battery
and obviously t-mobile 4G capable
HDMI
it is on sale right now for $250 and works with t-mobile's 4G/3G frequencies.
It is a re-branded Huawei MediaPad, and for those people that can't live without a microSD slot and HDMI out and want the option of using a SIM for data on the go this is probably the best deal out there currently.
That being said, I'm going with the Nexus 7 hand's down.

Been down the "surely the cheap tablets from China aren't that bad, right?" path before. Have a 10" Zenithink C91.
Pros:
Had cool things, like OTG & HDMI at a price well under any competitor similarly equipped.
Easy to open to get at the HW.
Cons:
The TFT screen in a tablet form SUCKS. At minimum, only consider something with a capacitive IPS screen.
I was sold an "ICS" tablet. Their version of ICS came with no support, no source, was buggy, and crashed constantly on the 512MB of RAM. Flashed the table to GB, and the experience got a whole lot better.
When these manufacturers make a new device, old devices are left to rot - no firmware updates.
Bottom Line:
Cheap tablets offer cool tricks if you can't afford the do-it-all Transformer Infinity's of the world.
But they come with no support from the manufacturer, no ability to roll your own distro, and are often oversold on their capability.
With name brand tablets being sold for a mere $200 these days, I would stick with the name brands.

The no name ones also pretty much always don't have working ics 2d gpu acceleration
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I would recommend Archos.
New product
It might be worth looking into that, they will have sizes from 7, 8, 9.7 inc
The most expensive is to be 250$

Quad core vs dual core

Hi Everyone,
I plan on purchasing a 7 inch tablet for email, calendar, browsing, some light word and excel updating, and occasionally Netflix. While nice to have, I don't think the quad core processor provides any advantage for the apps I will use? Tablets such as the Samsung 2 7 that have a built in SD Card look nice and don't seem like they are suffering the same quality control issues the Nexus 7 is suffering. I had a really bad experience with the Transformer Prime and don't want to go down that path again.
Thoughts/Suggestions?

What nexus7 quality control issues?
Get some perspective......
One of the main advantages of the Tegra3 is the superior power management using the 5th CPU core
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What issues did you have with the transformer prime?
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>I don't think the quad core processor provides any advantage for the [productivity] apps I will use?
Dual-vs-quad is mostly a marketing thing, like the old megahertz wars. For most operations, the Teg3 uses only one core (5th core, see video below) to conserve power. 3D gaming uses all 4 cores, which results in short battery life.
Most tablet use is not CPU-gated, except for hardcore gaming. Video playback nowaday has dedicated circuitry. In other words, if you don't do hardcore gaming, ignore SoC.
I think foremost criterion is screen size. A 7" is more portable, but for productivity (text-heavy) use, a 10" is more suited for its larger display. Would suggest a 10" for single-location use (ie in-home or at-work) and a 7" for mobile use. Best bet is to have one of each.
People tend to ask "what to buy," but a more useful question may be "when to buy." Now is not the best time to buy, as companies are just starting to roll out their wares for the fall shopping season.

e.mote said:
>I don't think the quad core processor provides any advantage for the [productivity] apps I will use?
Dual-vs-quad is mostly a marketing thing, like the old megahertz wars. For most operations, the Teg3 uses only one core (5th core, see video below) to conserve power. 3D gaming uses all 4 cores, which results in short battery life.
Most tablet use is not CPU-gated, except for hardcore gaming. Video playback nowaday has dedicated circuitry. In other words, if you don't do hardcore gaming, ignore SoC.
I think foremost criterion is screen size. A 7" is more portable, but for productivity (text-heavy) use, a 10" is more suited for its larger display. Would suggest a 10" for single-location use (ie in-home or at-work) and a 7" for mobile use. Best bet is to have one of each.
People tend to ask "what to buy," but a more useful question may be "when to buy." Now is not the best time to buy, as companies are just starting to roll out their wares for the fall shopping season.
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I have used both the galaxy tab 2 and the nexus. The nexus is definitely faster and smoother. My nexus had the screen lift thing. Its getting RMAed. We'll see if the new one is better. From the tab 2s I have played with I haven't seen any defects really.
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They recently did a poll, and only a small portion of the people had issues. The people that didn't (myself included) just didn't have a reason to say anything.
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Mine is perfect, no issues what so ever and couldn't be happier with it. Seems people share complaints more than praise. This is my first tablet and have nothing to compare to but I haven't put it down very much since I received it Friday my phone finally gets a little break. I'm not big into games but I have a nephew that now loves my tablet because of the games. Guess it will be good entertainment when kids come over. Good luck, don't think you would be disappointed with this one.
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Go and buy one... if you get one that's defected you can always return it! Mine is perfect by the way.
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What problem did you have with the Eee Pad prime?

[/COLOR]I like the nexus 7. Defects always happen with the launch of a new product. My tablet has defects. The nexus 7 is a great deal and their are some other new tabs due out soon that's as cost effective as this tab. nexus 7 will have better support and faster updates. You need to research and figure out what it is you need. The only dual core tab that will out perform the tegra 3 is probably the samsung enyos 2 ghz tab that doesnt exist in real world yet.

BostonDan2 said:
Hi Everyone,
I plan on purchasing a 7 inch tablet for email, calendar, browsing, some light word and excel updating, and occasionally Netflix. While nice to have, I don't think the quad core processor provides any advantage for the apps I will use? Tablets such as the Samsung 2 7 that have a built in SD Card look nice and don't seem like they are suffering the same quality control issues the Nexus 7 is suffering. I had a really bad experience with the Transformer Prime and don't want to go down that path again.
Thoughts/Suggestions?
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I have a Samsung galaxy tab 10.1 with dual core cpu and the nexus 7 with quad core. The performance is night and day. Whether that is due to software or hardware or both, I don't know. All I can tell you is that the dual core tablet is very rarely getting used, and I like the nexus 7 so much I ordered a second one as a gift for someone else. Mine is perfect, absolutely no quality issues, though it did give me a scare once taking longer than expected to reboot. And based on the ifixit rating, and the popularity of the device, this one will be around much longer than the other tablet, simply because it will be possible for me to fix it, if it breaks after it's out of warranty.
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Jelly bean has a lot to do with smoothness. Having a Galaxy Nexus upgraded to JB, it makes a big difference.
There is big noticeable differences between this and the Transformer running ICS but I haven't upgraded it to JB to do direct tests.
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rockaholic112 said:
They recently did a poll, and only a small portion of the people had issues. The people that didn't (myself included) just didn't have a reason to say anything.
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The polls consistently showed 50% having issues, unless there's one I don't know about.

thebobp said:
The polls consistently showed 50% having issues, unless there's one I don't know about.
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Think about it, a poll in a place where people with issues would come is not going to reflect the actual numbers. It will be heavily skewed.

Nospin said:
Think about it, a poll in a place where people with issues would come is not going to reflect the actual numbers. It will be heavily skewed.
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The pre-arrival population was already large enough compared to the size of the polls that I find it hard to believe 50% of them would've come from nowhere, rather than having been randomly selected from said population.
I'm still interested to know where this poll with low rates was.

Thanks to all that responded. This is helpful and given me a lot to think about.
To provide the background on the Transformer Prime, I received one with really bad wifi. Throughput was painful from 1 floor away from my router and I had a little bit of screen bleed, but I was ok with the screen bleed, it was the wifi that mad it unusable. I received really bad support from Asus, that was the tipping point that made me return the product.
I ended up with an iPad and it mostly works great, but I like the 7 inch form factor and I am curious if Android will provide more functionality with google apps that I'm already using for my business.
I keep going back and forth, but now I'm leaning towards the nexus as the problems being reported are not being reported as much anymore and this seems to have a lot of development interest.
Thanks again everyone.

The TF Prime lol. That thing was a nightmare and a complete design fault failure.
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BostonDan2 said:
Thanks to all that responded. This is helpful and given me a lot to think about.
To provide the background on the Transformer Prime, I received one with really bad wifi. Throughput was painful from 1 floor away from my router and I had a little bit of screen bleed, but I was ok with the screen bleed, it was the wifi that mad it unusable. I received really bad support from Asus, that was the tipping point that made me return the product.
I ended up with an iPad and it mostly works great, but I like the 7 inch form factor and I am curious if Android will provide more functionality with google apps that I'm already using for my business.
I keep going back and forth, but now I'm leaning towards the nexus as the problems being reported are not being reported as much anymore and this seems to have a lot of development interest.
Thanks again everyone.
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If development is a big factor for you then get a Nexus and never look back. The Nexus devices will always have tbe latest and grestest softwsre cause it comes straight from google. Good luck with the other OEMs as you could wait months to years for official updates.

Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 - 8.0, anyone?

Will anyone consider the upcoming tab 3-8 to replace your nexus 7? I may as the followings are improvements that I am looking for:
1) larger screen with thinner bezels,
2) miracast/allshare cast support
3) phone call support (don't need this everyday, but great to use as second mobile when on a trip)
4) LTE support
5) microsd (which the new nexus certainly will not have)
But all these will render useless unless the new intel cpu is better than the current tegra 3. Anyone knows anything about this cpu?
Any views and followers?
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yatbond said:
But all these will render useless unless the new intel cpu is better than the current tegra 3. Anyone knows anything about this cpu?
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I don't think the 8.0 with have the new intel cpu on board, only the 10 inch version will have.
It a shame the tab 3 8.0 won't have IR and NFC on board :crying:

It's too slow.
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spitfire2425 said:
It's too slow.
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Nexus 7 still doing utterly splendid, thank you.

I'm currently happy with my collection of electronics. Baring any unforseen accidents I don't plan on "upgrading" my tab, phone, laptop or any other electronic for minimum of another year. But when I do my android devices will remain nexus whenever possible.
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I would like to see a Nexus 8. I would like the larger screen, but I don't much care for Samsung's newest tablets with the physical buttons. They are awkward when the tablet is rotated.
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gompedyret said:
Nexus 7 still doing utterly splendid, thank you.
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I meant the gtab8 is too slow. The my nexus seven and all the rest are still awesome.
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Pretty pricey for minor differences. If you were tabletless and looking, even then, the extra $130+ difference over the N7 is hard to swallow for basically Pen support.
If you are a current tablet owner, the difference becomes more difficult and borders retarded. Unless you specifically are in the market for a 7-8" tab with Pen support, this is a hard sell at that price. If you don't intend on utilizing the pen, you are much better at saving the cash and buying a N7.

player911 said:
Pretty pricey for minor differences. If you were tabletless and looking, even then, the extra $130+ difference over the N7 is hard to swallow for basically Pen support.
If you are a current tablet owner, the difference becomes more difficult and borders retarded. Unless you specifically are in the market for a 7-8" tab with Pen support, this is a hard sell at that price. If you don't intend on utilizing the pen, you are much better at saving the cash and buying a N7.
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The OP was referring to the new Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8 inch tablet.....Not the Galaxy Note 8 with the pen. The Galaxy Tab version will be much cheaper. It only has a duel core CPU and 1.5GB RAM.
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All these N7 compared to threads popping up, and to each their own I believe........but.....the N7 isn't perfect perhaps, tho what is.....but for price, performance, support from devs and quick Google updates....the N7 is the best all around 7" and similar size tablet going....and that is very hard to argue.
Nothing wrong with asking about other half size tabs, but realistically .....so far anyway.....none can beat it. Especially that other one people went on about that's a no name tab basically and will doubtfully ever see an official update. And good luck with support if you have problems.
Just saying. Of course the rumored new N7 will probably be better. Acer really got the N7 built ahead of its time. K.....an sd slot would've been nice. Lol
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ncguy68 said:
The OP was referring to the new Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8 inch tablet.....Not the Galaxy Note 8 with the pen. The Galaxy Tab version will be much cheaper. It only has a duel core CPU and 1.5GB RAM.
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I believe the tablet is using an Intel Atom processor. Dual core doesn't mean it's slow/slower. The architecture of the processor makes it probably faster than the quad core Tegra 3.
Edit: Good example would be the dual core CPU on the Nexus 10.
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DroidOnRoids said:
I believe the tablet is using an Intel Atom processor. Dual core doesn't mean it's slow/slower. The architecture of the processor makes it probably faster than the quad core Tegra 3.
Edit: Good example would be the dual core CPU on the Nexus 10.
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Good to know. I only use two cores on my Nexus 7 and it works fine for me. Android really only needs two cores.
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Nexus 7 32gb = 200 euro
Galaxy note 8.0 = 380 euro
So 180 euro voor 1inch extra. No thank you
Edit : didn't know that there would be a 8inch tab 3

DroidOnRoids said:
I believe the tablet is using an Intel Atom processor. Dual core doesn't mean it's slow/slower. The architecture of the processor makes it probably faster than the quad core Tegra 3.
Edit: Good example would be the dual core CPU on the Nexus 10.
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I think I was reading that the Atom is an x86 processor that "emulates" ARM used for Android. Samsung is getting cheap and using a platform they can market having Android and another for Windows 8. The good thing is that if the devs get it, it could possibly dualboot Android and Windows.
The Atoms were never really powerful but these are the new generation chips. Only time will tell.
As stated earlier this thread is for the TAB, not the 8" Note... which only further pushes me to believe that the N7 is still the better buy, even today.

I actually tried the Asus Fonepad and it also uses the Intel chip but single core. It feels a little slower than n7 but not by much. It runs pretty much all apps including all the games. But it didn't run firefox for some reason. The intel chip is dual thread; so single core acts like dual core...? And the new chip is dual core.... Therefore, I don't think it would be slower than our beloved N7. In fact it should be faster..
And I really want miracast support.
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A review has been posted.
Please check:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-3-8-inch-Review_id3337
Not great but definitely decent. Hard to decide N7-2 or this....
N7 Advantages based on rumored specs:
- better screen resolution
- better processor Snapdragon 600 or S4 pro
- lots of custom rom optimize the device
Tab 3 - 8.0
- bigger screen (to me this is more important than resolution as I don't mind the current N7 screen resolution) with thin bezel
- Phone calling capability
- micro-sd card memory expansion
- Possible split screen multi-tasking (this is also important, as I need to view Pdf and type notes in my meetings)
What is your take?

player911 said:
I think I was reading that the Atom is an x86 processor that "emulates" ARM used for Android. Samsung is getting cheap and using a platform they can market having Android and another for Windows 8. The good thing is that if the devs get it, it could possibly dualboot Android and Windows.
The Atoms were never really powerful but these are the new generation chips. Only time will tell.
As stated earlier this thread is for the TAB, not the 8" Note... which only further pushes me to believe that the N7 is still the better buy, even today.
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I sincerely doubt it. Google's been building x86-optimized versions of Android for some time, so I can't see why Samsung would shoot themselves in the foot by using an x86 chip to emulate ARM. Especially when we know they're collaborating pretty closely Intel.
In any event, this discussion is moot because by all accounts, the Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 will not be Intel-powered at all.

Also have to look at support from Samsung. How will this be updated are we looking at timely updates or will it be forgotten like the tab2 was. Will it get the new key lime pie is when its released or will it be stuck with jellybean? We seen so many phones that could handle the newer os that came out over the years but the phone makers seem to not want to be bothered with it. Or they drag their feet and by the time the phone gets the updated os its already obsolete. Case in point by the time the HTC thunderbolt got ICS Google was already on 4.2 jellybean.
Why all my devices for now on will be Google nexus devices. Seems to get more quicker updates and they support their devices a lot longer than other makers with their mentality of use it once and throw away for something new.I am happy with my n7 and will use it for either as long as I have it or till it breaks or I give it to my son. I got my son a tab2 and I was disappointed in it. I always heard great things about Samsung devices but that price of crap makes me question Samsung devices for the future purchases I may make.
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DroidOnRoids said:
I believe the tablet is using an Intel Atom processor. Dual core doesn't mean it's slow/slower. The architecture of the processor makes it probably faster than the quad core Tegra 3.
Edit: Good example would be the dual core CPU on the Nexus 10.
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yeah probably but the thought of having a dual core compared to the upcoming quad-core tablets that are probably going to have tegra 4, snapdragon 600 800s just makes it seem slow and probably will be.
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yatbond said:
A review has been posted.
Please check:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-3-8-inch-Review_id3337
Not great but definitely decent. Hard to decide N7-2 or this....
N7 Advantages based on rumored specs:
- better screen resolution
- better processor Snapdragon 600 or S4 pro
- lots of custom rom optimize the device
Tab 3 - 8.0
- bigger screen (to me this is more important than resolution as I don't mind the current N7 screen resolution) with thin bezel
- Phone calling capability
- micro-sd card memory expansion
- Possible split screen multi-tasking (this is also important, as I need to view Pdf and type notes in my meetings)
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GET THE N7 2 it will be a beast and have probably tons of devs behind it and who needs phone calling capabilitys.

Nexus 8 with Intel 2.3 ghz CPU?

Has anyone heard about this rumor before? Intel entering into the mobile market with a non-ARM cpu? Am I reading this correctly, its possibly four times the performance of a Snapdragon 800 CPU, and 64bit to boot?
http://www.examiner.com/article/nexus-8-tablet-could-debut-intel-64-bit-processor-for-android

SkOrPn said:
Has anyone heard about this rumor before? Intel entering into the mobile market with a non-ARM cpu? Am I reading this correctly, its possibly four times the performance of a Snapdragon 800 CPU, and 64bit to boot?
http://www.examiner.com/article/nexus-8-tablet-could-debut-intel-64-bit-processor-for-android
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Damnit, just when I "find" a procesor I can trust (LG G2's Snap 800 is awesome), the next Nexus tablet might not use it.
I guess if this is true, I'll be holding off for a while after it intros to upgrade from my 2012 to the new one.

khaytsus said:
Damnit, just when I "find" a procesor I can trust (LG G2's Snap 800 is awesome), the next Nexus tablet might not use it.
I guess if this is true, I'll be holding off for a while after it intros to upgrade from my 2012 to the new one.
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LOL, Yeah I agree... All of a sudden my decision not to upgrade to the 2013 N7 seems like was perfectly warranted. WOW, kinda hard to wrap my head around 4 times the performance. Lets hope its not at the cost of 4 times the power consumption, hahaha. Even with a bigger battery it might get to warm to carry around without using it outdoors in a stiff wind. lol

Seems like a kinda far-fetched rumor.

Hummmmmm Really????
Tuberomix said:
Seems like a kinda far-fetched rumor.
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I was thinking the same thing.. But it was 70 two days ago then the next day 12 deg with 2 inches of snow ..
Nothing Surprises me anymore.

Intel has already announced the CPU family weeks ago, and it is no longer a rumor. They have one called the Merrifield Z3480, which is a dual-core and runs at 2.13 Ghz, and another Called Moorefield Z3580, which is Quad-core and runs at 2.35 ghz. Both are native 64bit processor SoC's and combine many of the devices needed to perform mobile functions.
Here’s a look at the Intel Z3480 Merrifield SoC:
2.13 GHz dual-core 64-bit-ready SoC (Intel’s 22nm process technology on Silvermont microarchitecture)
13 MP support hardware-capable; 8 MP enabled on Form Factor Device (FFD)
LPDDR3 memory, 2×32 bit, up to 4 GB; 8.5 GB/s
USB 3.0; eMMC 4.5
Android 4.4.2 OS support
1080p 60 fps video recording and playback
H.265 (HEVC) and VP9 support <--- This is amazing
Imagination PowerVR G6400 GPU
Intel Mobile Wireless Display (Intel WiDi)
Intel XMM 7160 LTE Modem for 4G, 3G and 2G
Bluetooth 4.0 low energy, Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n/ac)
Digital Rights Management (DRM) support
HDCP 2.x for premium content over HDMI
http://www.intomobile.com/2014/02/2...aimed-tablets-and-smartphones-z3480-and-z3580
The only thing hard to believe for me is the fact that Nexus may get it. I mean a SoC like this is bound to be expensive, right? Intel isn't known for supplying cheap processors. I would think just the SoC alone is going to be $200. No?

Looks like there is also talk of a Nexus 6... My only question is are these devices just gonna keep getting bigger and bigger????
Seems like soon we will have the nexus tablets with 15 inch screens!! I like the size of my n7 and I hope they keep it.
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markymark567 said:
Looks like there is also talk of a Nexus 6... My only question is are these devices just gonna keep getting bigger and bigger????
Seems like soon we will have the nexus tablets with 15 inch screens!! I like the size of my n7 and I hope they keep it.
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I think eight inch is better than seven. 6" 8" and 10" seems perfect. They do not design these to cover a need, they design them to sell them. Sadly, humans think when a number goes higher it is automatically better. Even when you realize its not, your brain continues to work that way. If they released another Nexus 7, it would not sell as much as the new Nexus 8.

8" could be done the same size as the nexus 7. Might not be too bad. Personally I'd like something bigger for NY next tablet but I don't want an Intel processor. They are usually weaker on graphics and some apps are not compatible.
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Also think about what LG is doing with bezels... You could get an 8" display in the size of the Nexus 7 frame today, or with very little increase in size.
Not saying LG is the OEM or anything, but bezels are getting smaller and smaller, which means larger screens in the same overall device size.

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6" 8" and 10" seems perfect.
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negative, a 6" phone is too big for many people.
also i've heard the new intel chips will be no good for the custom ROM community: http://androidcommunity.com/intels-...g-trouble-for-android-customization-20140317/

cnstarz said:
negative, a 6" phone is too big for many people.
also i've heard the new intel chips will be no good for the custom ROM community: http://androidcommunity.com/intels-...g-trouble-for-android-customization-20140317/
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Scary, but not surprising coming from Intel. The more I think about it the more I don't like the idea of an Intel processor. Too many bad memories of the crappy atom processors in netbooks don't help.
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khaytsus said:
Also think about what LG is doing with bezels... You could get an 8" display in the size of the Nexus 7 frame today, or with very little increase in size.
Not saying LG is the OEM or anything, but bezels are getting smaller and smaller, which means larger screens in the same overall device size.
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Yeah, I like that idea about less bezel, but I also do not want zero bezel, or some of your fingers flesh while holding it could get in the way. Maybe 1/8 or 1/4 wide bezel, no more. I just know I want a 8" or 9" screen tablet for doing business while I am still in bed. I usually wake up about 5 hours after going to bed, and I can't keep from checking email, paypal, ebay, replying to client questions and customer concerns, etc. I spend 45 minutes every morning and I find the screen and font sizes too small on the N7. I know I can change font sizes, but it just don't fit right. I think another inch, or inch and a half, would make it a little bit better to do business while my eyes are still tired. After 45 minutes my eyes are extremely sore from the constant focusing, and trying to read. Maybe larger fonts and more screen real-estate and my eyes wouldn't get so tired. And I feel that 10" may be just a little too big to snuggle with, lol... But I don't know...
Yeah a 6" phone would be stupid. So, maybe a 5" phone tops, 8" tablet and a 11", to replace the 10?
Oh, and why on earth would it not be good for custom roms and Intel processors? The worlds best chip maker and no one wants one in their mobile device? I would think the source would still be released regardless of the chip type and maker.

SkOrPn said:
Oh, and why on earth would it not be good for custom roms and Intel processors? The worlds best chip maker and no one wants one in their mobile device? I would think the source would still be released regardless of the chip type and maker.
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Then you need to read up. Intel has a bad reputation in the past with Linux and their atom chip. They are also known for locking down features and building things mainly for Windows.
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T-Keith said:
Then you need to read up. Intel has a bad reputation in the past with Linux and their atom chip. They are also known for locking down features and building things mainly for Windows.
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Yes, I am well aware of their past Atom woes. But that does not automatically mean these new processors will suffer the same fate.

And it looks possible that Google may have tapped HTC to manufacture this beast...
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/544578/20140324/nexus-8-10-2-release-date-specs.htm#.Uy_kgVTdWBM