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So its a simple question, will you ever go back to a smaller screen after getting use to the massive 5.3" display...
We all know that quad core is the next big thing in mobiles and Samsung is def going to release the Galaxy S3 with quad core soon enough.. we have already seen HTC One X & LG 4X HD coming to MWC and it looks promising..
I for one really hope we can have a successor for the Note with quad core power so that we can still enjoy the beauty that is the Note and don't have to go back to the smaller screen...
PS : I don't yet have a note, but cant help it, as i am totally in Love with the phone already.. Gonna buy this beast pretty soon..
101% No!
To get this sensational assuring feeling...
Get a Gnote, use it daily. Once in a while, borrow your friend's iPhone for a minute hehehe
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I think Quad cores thingy is good to have as of now, but, given option(s), i would rather they pursue a longer battery life/technology.
Can't really fault the Gnote
Ummm, NO
From the Beast : Galaxy Note
As long as the screen is in the range of 4.7-5.3, then it is pretty ok for me - but the specs must be much better than the Note.
No. I even think Samsung could go a little bigger with the Note, maybe 6", as long as they can keep the thinness.
Only if the modularity of the ASUS Padphone is adopted by other manufacturers.
I believe the one-device-modular-design would be the only way to get me to move. The idea to have all your files, all your applications, all your accounts accessible from one single device that you can change depending on your needs is what would get me to move.
I bought a Note so I could have the best of both the phone and tablet world, because file fragmentation bothers me.
I had a Streak, now I have a NOTE, any questions?
After using just for one day my note, I will never go back to a smaller screen!
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Well, i haven't used the note on a daily basis, but even after using it for a little time at the local retailer, i can say that i don't think i can go back to a smaller screen...
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No. I even think Samsung could go a little bigger with the Note, maybe 6", as long as they can keep the thinness.
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I agree. There's still more space left in my pockets
No.
I had a Note the day it came out but it developed a fault so i swapped it for a Nexus. But i missed the Note, so i sold the Nexus and bought another Note
Now i've got the Note on ICS with a 240 DPI - I'm just so happy
Yes, but only if i decide to use a smartphone & tablet combo for everyday use... maybe after the purchase of Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (a must have device for me because of stylus sketching) a smaller pocket friendly Samsung smartphone will be the right solution too
I've gone from a Dell Streak to the Note, so used a 5.x" phone for some time now, and I love it, and at the moment wouldn't trade it for anything.
However, I woudn't rule out trading in for something with a smaller screen at some point, if the right phone comes along.
There are times when I would rather have a smaller phone. Taking photos for example, not so easy on a huge phone as it is on a smaller one. Although I couldn't have anything smaller than a 4.3" screen, as I expect the GS3 might have.
If I DID go for a smaller phone, I'd have to buy a tablet as well though. Which in fairness, I may do at some point anyway.
I'm open minded.
The uses from a business standpoint of such a large screen are great compared to that of a smaller screen. Combine that with the processing power of this phone and you have the makings of a device that bridges the need for portability with the limitations of any similar device.
Since purchasing the Note, I find myself opening my laptop a lot less often for tasks ranging from email (exchange, gmail, .mac, and more) to general modification of spreadsheets and other office documents.
I previously had a Dell Streak and liked it more for the uniqueness and screen real estate than it's actual capabilities. The Streak was much slower and lacked release of actual source in order to produce a fully utilized device. DJSteve maintained the StreakDroid roms extensively, but was always limited by the total lack of support from Dell.
Long live the Note until the next great device surfaces.
for now i have to say no..
simple i use this for my work and fun. I still using blackbery though just because all of my colleagues still using it and they say it's easier to reach me via blackberry.
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Maybe, i really love the big screen but if it comes out another phone that iu will like but it cant be to small rlly
I think I may have, but not to a range below 4" screen... I used to have the SGS2 and came to love it, and upgrading to the Note is one of the best decision I made.
Anyway.. to answer your question, yes I will probably go back to a smaller screen.. but my limit would be 4".. anything lower than that.. then the answer is NO
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No.
I had a Note the day it came out but it developed a fault so i swapped it for a Nexus. But i missed the Note, so i sold the Nexus and bought another Note
Now i've got the Note on ICS with a 240 DPI - I'm just so happy
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Lol I'm speechless
crazy
NO ! I need bigger !
I need 6 inch phone !
Because after a few months later I got used to it, and now Galaxy Note small phone.
I change every two weeks my phone to Nexus, or SGSII for the prophylactic, because Note seems to me a small
but I confidently will move to Galaxy S III !
quad core is not a dual core... man ;-)
btw you heard the Tegra 3 quad-core actually contains five processing cores under the hood — yes 5 !
Powered by Tegra 3 mobile processor, with 4-PLUS-1 quad-core architecture with fifth battery saver core
I heard that TEGRA3 a very dangerous enemy in the performance
Believe me samsung will not fight long with the experience of Nvidia !
Nvidia only came into mobile marketing just recently, and already shut the mouth to Snapdragon.
i wouldn't go any smaller than 4.5", provided the rest of my criteria for a phone is met.
The time has come. The N1 has put up a good fight, and is still fighting to stay up to date, but it's an uphill battle.
So I recently became eligible for a upgrade through At&t. Unfortunately the best Android phone they have to offer right now is the Galaxy S II. I'm the kind of guy who isn't going to drop hundreds of dollars for a phone I will have for 2 years that can't compete in a year.
So Here's my plan (this is actually how I got the cash to get the N1, albeit an iPhone 4)
Buy a iPhone 4S through At&t for $150 (refurb)
Sell it on ebay for ~$450-500
End up with an excess ~$350
Sell my N1 for ~$100
~$450 total
I can then make up the difference out of my own pocket
$500 is also roughly the amount the Galaxy Nexus is unsubsidized.
The One X looks like an amazing phone. However, the one that will be offered through At&t will be dual core 1.5GHZ, which is still better than the Galaxy Nexus' dual 1.2GHZ. However, if I'm going to have this phone for the next 2 years, it's going to be kick-ass, so I would go with the international tegra 3 quad core One X being offered unsubsidized. Right now that will run more more that $500 surely, but I'll be getting a monster.
I'm also extremely impressed with the community for Nexus devices. The ability to flash countless ROM's is a convenience I wish all phones could have, and something I do quite often. I know HTC has unlock-able bootloaders now, but I don't think they have as much community support for various ROM's, recovery's, etc. I do love the build quality of HTC devices so much more than Samsung though.
So my question to you all is, should I stay true to the Nexus line and get an extremely solid phone, or go for the One-X with almost 3x as much processing power?
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The time has come. The N1 has put up a good fight, and is still fighting to stay up to date, but it's an uphill battle.
So I recently became eligible for a upgrade through At&t. Unfortunately the best Android phone they have to offer right now is the Galaxy S II. I'm the kind of guy who isn't going to drop hundreds of dollars for a phone I will have for 2 years that can't compete in a year.
So Here's my plan (this is actually how I got the cash to get the N1, albeit an iPhone 4)
Buy a iPhone 4S through At&t for $150 (refurb)
Sell it on ebay for ~$450-500
End up with an excess ~$350
Sell my N1 for ~$100
~$450 total
I can then make up the difference out of my own pocket
$500 is also roughly the amount the Galaxy Nexus is unsubsidized.
The One X looks like an amazing phone. However, the one that will be offered through At&t will be dual core 1.5GHZ, which is still better than the Galaxy Nexus' dual 1.2GHZ. However, if I'm going to have this phone for the next 2 years, it's going to be kick-ass, so I would go with the international tegra 3 quad core One X being offered unsubsidized. Right now that will run more more that $500 surely, but I'll be getting a monster.
I'm also extremely impressed with the community for Nexus devices. The ability to flash countless ROM's is a convenience I wish all phones could have, and something I do quite often. I know HTC has unlock-able bootloaders now, but I don't think they have as much community support for various ROM's, recovery's, etc. I do love the build quality of HTC devices so much more than Samsung though.
So my question to you all is, should I stay true to the Nexus line and get an extremely solid phone, or go for the One-X with almost 3x as much processing power?
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You never get 100$ for a used nexus one. More like 40~50$. They go new for around 100$
Read the comparisons between Tegra 3 and MSM8960. The dual-core One X will most likely be more powerful and less battery-eater than Tegra 3 one. The number of cores doesn't equal performance. You can get it through AT&T and that would make your plan much simpler.
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Read the comparisons between Tegra 3 and MSM8960. The dual-core One X will most likely be more powerful and less battery-eater than Tegra 3 one. The number of cores doesn't equal performance. You can get it through AT&T and that would make your plan much simpler.
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Thanks for that. So would you choose the One XL over the Galaxy Nexus?
I might not be a good example. After a year with Nexus One, mostly running Enomther's ROM (somewhere between AOSP and CM), and trying some CM7, I grew really fond of Sense, especially after using Sense 3 for a while (running Sense 3.5 on my MT4G now). Stock Android has so many stupid quirks and limitations that I can't stand it. Plus, I completely dislike stock ICS look, it's awful IMHO, and I didn't particularly like Gingerbread either, Froyo was much closer to my taste - and Sense reminds me of it. So I would definitely take a phone that can run Sense ROMs over a phone that can't, but as you can see, it's my subjective opinion.
There is one more lesson I learned from Nexus One: user base counts. With Galaxy Nexus, all you get is a new OS 1-2 months ahead, and relatively small user base - while most likely having devs, but also more likely to jump to another, newer phone quite fast. On the other hand, on One X for 1-2 months delay in OS update you'll get more variants - in addition to stock Sense there will be AOSP, CM and MIUI variants like for any other phone, and most of all - you'll probably get A LOT more users, which eventually equals much better support community. Look at Nexus One development versus the good old Desire. If I'd pick Desire back then - I'd still be using it now.
Seems to me the choice is clear.....lol
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Wait, what? The HTC One X isn't dual core. It's got a quad core processor.
Theshawty said:
Wait, what? The HTC One X isn't dual core. It's got a quad core processor.
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Only the international version.
The US version gets a dual core but it's a beast dual core at that.
Benchmarks better than Tegra 3.
You really can't go wrong with it.
This one is for dual core Snapdragon S4, I believe.
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Only the international version.
The US version gets a dual core but it's a beast dual core at that.
Benchmarks better than Tegra 3.
You really can't go wrong with it.
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Dafuq? Why do they make two versions of it?
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Dafuq? Why do they make two versions of it?
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Because Tegra3 does not play nicely with LTE.
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XSafire said:
The time has come. The N1 has put up a good fight, and is still fighting to stay up to date, but it's an uphill battle.
So I recently became eligible for a upgrade through At&t. Unfortunately the best Android phone they have to offer right now is the Galaxy S II. I'm the kind of guy who isn't going to drop hundreds of dollars for a phone I will have for 2 years that can't compete in a year.
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http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...wtSlotClick=1-007D1Y!903920-1-1&rel=nofollow#
SGS2, $10 if you buy it today, with two year contract. $100 otherwise... Your plan seems silly.
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Only the international version.
The US version gets a dual core but it's a beast dual core at that.
Benchmarks better than Tegra 3.
You really can't go wrong with it.
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No the tegra 3 still outperforms it in raw power by like 70 percent, but the dual core that i has is a beast no doubt about that
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No the tegra 3 still outperforms it in raw power by like 70 percent, but the dual core that i has is a beast no doubt about that
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That's according to what benchmark exactly?
Anandtech says you either don't know what you're talking about or can't read charts (or both). Maybe if you mean that dual-core S4 outperforms quad-core Tegra 3 by 70%:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
Seeing these numbers, HTC's decision to go with Tegra3 leaves you thinking, what's wrong with them. The most probable reason is that they had to decide when the CPUs weren't anywhere near ready, and they evaluated them to be more or less equal, and given the marketing hype of Nvidia and a bit earlier arrival, chose it for flagship device. Well, I guess their management is not too happy now to say the least, when the CPUs are out in the wild and the results are on the table, but that also could make AT&T's One X a big hit, like I said.
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That's according to what benchmark exactly?
Anandtech says you either don't know what you're talking about or can't read charts (or both). Maybe if you mean that dual-core S4 outperforms quad-core Tegra 3 by 70%:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
Seeing these numbers, HTC's decision to go with Tegra3 leaves you thinking, what's wrong with them. The most probable reason is that they had to decide when the CPUs weren't anywhere near ready, and they evaluated them to be more or less equal, and given the marketing hype of Nvidia and a bit earlier arrival, chose it for flagship device. Well, I guess their management is not too happy now to say the least, when the CPUs are out in the wild and the results are on the table, but that also could make AT&T's One X a big hit, like I said.
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Are you being serious.. do you trust the bull**** on amandtech.... honestly you didnt hold the device in your hands to see how it performs, nor did you see a clip of it being benchmarked. Its impossible how 2 cores 1.5Ghz can beat a quad core 1.6Ghz the the arm in the s4 doesnt give double the performance compared to the arm in tegra 3... seriously, its like comparing an intel core i5 to a amd phenom 2....
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Jack_R1 said:
That's according to what benchmark exactly?
Anandtech says you either don't know what you're talking about or can't read charts (or both). Maybe if you mean that dual-core S4 outperforms quad-core Tegra 3 by 70%:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3
Seeing these numbers, HTC's decision to go with Tegra3 leaves you thinking, what's wrong with them. The most probable reason is that they had to decide when the CPUs weren't anywhere near ready, and they evaluated them to be more or less equal, and given the marketing hype of Nvidia and a bit earlier arrival, chose it for flagship device. Well, I guess their management is not too happy now to say the least, when the CPUs are out in the wild and the results are on the table, but that also could make AT&T's One X a big hit, like I said.
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I also saw pics of a galaxy nexus cooked and all that kitchen stuff i saw PICS only that doesnt prove anything, i own a transformer prime and its really good but it tends to lag when it switches from companion core to the actual cores, i saw benchmarks where the ram in the one x (s4) completely crushes the ram in the prime which is almost impossible because the ram in the prime runs at twice the clock speed. But it is single channel compared to dual channel in the s4 on paper the tegra 3 is faster.. by a lot ...
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ray3andrei said:
Are you being serious.. do you trust the bull**** on amandtech.... honestly you didnt hold the device in your hands to see how it performs, nor did you see a clip of it being benchmarked. Its impossible how 2 cores 1.5Ghz can beat a quad core 1.6Ghz the the arm in the s4 doesnt give double the performance compared to the arm in tegra 3... seriously, its like comparing an intel core i5 to a amd phenom 2....
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That's only because you don't know a thing about what's in both, how they work and how the Linux kernel above both works. If you manage to read the beginning of the article, you'll see that Krait in S4 is no Cortex A9. Yes, especially in FPU operations, it can double, triple and quadruple the performance of a regular A9, and is generally much faster.
You're resorting to 2nd-grade defense, which could be expected from a Tegra3-based-device owner-fanboy. The benchmarks are just that - benchmarks, and if you're talking "raw power" and giving numbers - back them up with raw data, which benchmarks are (more or less objective, but it's not the point here). Otherwise just say "I own a Tegra3 device and it performs fine, and I have no idea what dual-core Krait performs like, because I never saw one". There's nothing else you can possibly say. "Impossible"? Says who?
P.S. It's funny that you assumed that I "didn't hold the device in my hands".
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That's only because you don't know a thing about what's in both, how they work and how the Linux kernel above both works. If you manage to read the beginning of the article, you'll see that Krait in S4 is no Cortex A9. Yes, especially in FPU operations, it can double, triple and quadruple the performance of a regular A9, and is generally much faster.
You're resorting to 2nd-grade defense, which could be expected from a Tegra3-based-device owner-fanboy. The benchmarks are just that - benchmarks, and if you're talking "raw power" and giving numbers - back them up with raw data, which benchmarks are (more or less objective, but it's not the point here). Otherwise just say "I own a Tegra3 device and it performs fine, and I have no idea what dual-core Krait performs like, because I never saw one". There's nothing else you can possibly say. "Impossible"? Says who?
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Haha....i didnt say a9 did I, you seem to be really pissed dude... show me a vid where the one x gets benchmarked.. and im not a fanboy.. in fact i like my nexus more than my prime..
On paper the tegra 3 is better and even if it uses arm a15mp core it still wouldn't match sorry im done here
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That's only because you don't know a thing about what's in both, how they work and how the Linux kernel above both works. If you manage to read the beginning of the article, you'll see that Krait in S4 is no Cortex A9. Yes, especially in FPU operations, it can double, triple and quadruple the performance of a regular A9, and is generally much faster.
You're resorting to 2nd-grade defense, which could be expected from a Tegra3-based-device owner-fanboy. The benchmarks are just that - benchmarks, and if you're talking "raw power" and giving numbers - back them up with raw data, which benchmarks are (more or less objective, but it's not the point here). Otherwise just say "I own a Tegra3 device and it performs fine, and I have no idea what dual-core Krait performs like, because I never saw one". There's nothing else you can possibly say. "Impossible"? Says who?
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If i look at thr quadrant benchmark it gets 8500, on my prime i get 11000.. so the t3 is faster.. sorry
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I would choose the nexus only because of the screen, stock ics, and 1st to get updates, anything else go for the one x regardless of the version you get
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Will anyone consider the upcoming tab 3-8 to replace your nexus 7? I may as the followings are improvements that I am looking for:
1) larger screen with thinner bezels,
2) miracast/allshare cast support
3) phone call support (don't need this everyday, but great to use as second mobile when on a trip)
4) LTE support
5) microsd (which the new nexus certainly will not have)
But all these will render useless unless the new intel cpu is better than the current tegra 3. Anyone knows anything about this cpu?
Any views and followers?
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yatbond said:
But all these will render useless unless the new intel cpu is better than the current tegra 3. Anyone knows anything about this cpu?
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I don't think the 8.0 with have the new intel cpu on board, only the 10 inch version will have.
It a shame the tab 3 8.0 won't have IR and NFC on board :crying:
It's too slow.
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spitfire2425 said:
It's too slow.
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Nexus 7 still doing utterly splendid, thank you.
I'm currently happy with my collection of electronics. Baring any unforseen accidents I don't plan on "upgrading" my tab, phone, laptop or any other electronic for minimum of another year. But when I do my android devices will remain nexus whenever possible.
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I would like to see a Nexus 8. I would like the larger screen, but I don't much care for Samsung's newest tablets with the physical buttons. They are awkward when the tablet is rotated.
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Nexus 7 still doing utterly splendid, thank you.
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I meant the gtab8 is too slow. The my nexus seven and all the rest are still awesome.
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Pretty pricey for minor differences. If you were tabletless and looking, even then, the extra $130+ difference over the N7 is hard to swallow for basically Pen support.
If you are a current tablet owner, the difference becomes more difficult and borders retarded. Unless you specifically are in the market for a 7-8" tab with Pen support, this is a hard sell at that price. If you don't intend on utilizing the pen, you are much better at saving the cash and buying a N7.
player911 said:
Pretty pricey for minor differences. If you were tabletless and looking, even then, the extra $130+ difference over the N7 is hard to swallow for basically Pen support.
If you are a current tablet owner, the difference becomes more difficult and borders retarded. Unless you specifically are in the market for a 7-8" tab with Pen support, this is a hard sell at that price. If you don't intend on utilizing the pen, you are much better at saving the cash and buying a N7.
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The OP was referring to the new Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8 inch tablet.....Not the Galaxy Note 8 with the pen. The Galaxy Tab version will be much cheaper. It only has a duel core CPU and 1.5GB RAM.
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All these N7 compared to threads popping up, and to each their own I believe........but.....the N7 isn't perfect perhaps, tho what is.....but for price, performance, support from devs and quick Google updates....the N7 is the best all around 7" and similar size tablet going....and that is very hard to argue.
Nothing wrong with asking about other half size tabs, but realistically .....so far anyway.....none can beat it. Especially that other one people went on about that's a no name tab basically and will doubtfully ever see an official update. And good luck with support if you have problems.
Just saying. Of course the rumored new N7 will probably be better. Acer really got the N7 built ahead of its time. K.....an sd slot would've been nice. Lol
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ncguy68 said:
The OP was referring to the new Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8 inch tablet.....Not the Galaxy Note 8 with the pen. The Galaxy Tab version will be much cheaper. It only has a duel core CPU and 1.5GB RAM.
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I believe the tablet is using an Intel Atom processor. Dual core doesn't mean it's slow/slower. The architecture of the processor makes it probably faster than the quad core Tegra 3.
Edit: Good example would be the dual core CPU on the Nexus 10.
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DroidOnRoids said:
I believe the tablet is using an Intel Atom processor. Dual core doesn't mean it's slow/slower. The architecture of the processor makes it probably faster than the quad core Tegra 3.
Edit: Good example would be the dual core CPU on the Nexus 10.
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Good to know. I only use two cores on my Nexus 7 and it works fine for me. Android really only needs two cores.
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Nexus 7 32gb = 200 euro
Galaxy note 8.0 = 380 euro
So 180 euro voor 1inch extra. No thank you
Edit : didn't know that there would be a 8inch tab 3
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I believe the tablet is using an Intel Atom processor. Dual core doesn't mean it's slow/slower. The architecture of the processor makes it probably faster than the quad core Tegra 3.
Edit: Good example would be the dual core CPU on the Nexus 10.
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I think I was reading that the Atom is an x86 processor that "emulates" ARM used for Android. Samsung is getting cheap and using a platform they can market having Android and another for Windows 8. The good thing is that if the devs get it, it could possibly dualboot Android and Windows.
The Atoms were never really powerful but these are the new generation chips. Only time will tell.
As stated earlier this thread is for the TAB, not the 8" Note... which only further pushes me to believe that the N7 is still the better buy, even today.
I actually tried the Asus Fonepad and it also uses the Intel chip but single core. It feels a little slower than n7 but not by much. It runs pretty much all apps including all the games. But it didn't run firefox for some reason. The intel chip is dual thread; so single core acts like dual core...? And the new chip is dual core.... Therefore, I don't think it would be slower than our beloved N7. In fact it should be faster..
And I really want miracast support.
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A review has been posted.
Please check:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-3-8-inch-Review_id3337
Not great but definitely decent. Hard to decide N7-2 or this....
N7 Advantages based on rumored specs:
- better screen resolution
- better processor Snapdragon 600 or S4 pro
- lots of custom rom optimize the device
Tab 3 - 8.0
- bigger screen (to me this is more important than resolution as I don't mind the current N7 screen resolution) with thin bezel
- Phone calling capability
- micro-sd card memory expansion
- Possible split screen multi-tasking (this is also important, as I need to view Pdf and type notes in my meetings)
What is your take?
player911 said:
I think I was reading that the Atom is an x86 processor that "emulates" ARM used for Android. Samsung is getting cheap and using a platform they can market having Android and another for Windows 8. The good thing is that if the devs get it, it could possibly dualboot Android and Windows.
The Atoms were never really powerful but these are the new generation chips. Only time will tell.
As stated earlier this thread is for the TAB, not the 8" Note... which only further pushes me to believe that the N7 is still the better buy, even today.
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I sincerely doubt it. Google's been building x86-optimized versions of Android for some time, so I can't see why Samsung would shoot themselves in the foot by using an x86 chip to emulate ARM. Especially when we know they're collaborating pretty closely Intel.
In any event, this discussion is moot because by all accounts, the Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 will not be Intel-powered at all.
Also have to look at support from Samsung. How will this be updated are we looking at timely updates or will it be forgotten like the tab2 was. Will it get the new key lime pie is when its released or will it be stuck with jellybean? We seen so many phones that could handle the newer os that came out over the years but the phone makers seem to not want to be bothered with it. Or they drag their feet and by the time the phone gets the updated os its already obsolete. Case in point by the time the HTC thunderbolt got ICS Google was already on 4.2 jellybean.
Why all my devices for now on will be Google nexus devices. Seems to get more quicker updates and they support their devices a lot longer than other makers with their mentality of use it once and throw away for something new.I am happy with my n7 and will use it for either as long as I have it or till it breaks or I give it to my son. I got my son a tab2 and I was disappointed in it. I always heard great things about Samsung devices but that price of crap makes me question Samsung devices for the future purchases I may make.
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I believe the tablet is using an Intel Atom processor. Dual core doesn't mean it's slow/slower. The architecture of the processor makes it probably faster than the quad core Tegra 3.
Edit: Good example would be the dual core CPU on the Nexus 10.
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yeah probably but the thought of having a dual core compared to the upcoming quad-core tablets that are probably going to have tegra 4, snapdragon 600 800s just makes it seem slow and probably will be.
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A review has been posted.
Please check:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-3-8-inch-Review_id3337
Not great but definitely decent. Hard to decide N7-2 or this....
N7 Advantages based on rumored specs:
- better screen resolution
- better processor Snapdragon 600 or S4 pro
- lots of custom rom optimize the device
Tab 3 - 8.0
- bigger screen (to me this is more important than resolution as I don't mind the current N7 screen resolution) with thin bezel
- Phone calling capability
- micro-sd card memory expansion
- Possible split screen multi-tasking (this is also important, as I need to view Pdf and type notes in my meetings)
What is your take?
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GET THE N7 2 it will be a beast and have probably tons of devs behind it and who needs phone calling capabilitys.
Has anyone heard about this rumor before? Intel entering into the mobile market with a non-ARM cpu? Am I reading this correctly, its possibly four times the performance of a Snapdragon 800 CPU, and 64bit to boot?
http://www.examiner.com/article/nexus-8-tablet-could-debut-intel-64-bit-processor-for-android
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Has anyone heard about this rumor before? Intel entering into the mobile market with a non-ARM cpu? Am I reading this correctly, its possibly four times the performance of a Snapdragon 800 CPU, and 64bit to boot?
http://www.examiner.com/article/nexus-8-tablet-could-debut-intel-64-bit-processor-for-android
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Damnit, just when I "find" a procesor I can trust (LG G2's Snap 800 is awesome), the next Nexus tablet might not use it.
I guess if this is true, I'll be holding off for a while after it intros to upgrade from my 2012 to the new one.
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Damnit, just when I "find" a procesor I can trust (LG G2's Snap 800 is awesome), the next Nexus tablet might not use it.
I guess if this is true, I'll be holding off for a while after it intros to upgrade from my 2012 to the new one.
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LOL, Yeah I agree... All of a sudden my decision not to upgrade to the 2013 N7 seems like was perfectly warranted. WOW, kinda hard to wrap my head around 4 times the performance. Lets hope its not at the cost of 4 times the power consumption, hahaha. Even with a bigger battery it might get to warm to carry around without using it outdoors in a stiff wind. lol
Seems like a kinda far-fetched rumor.
Hummmmmm Really????
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Seems like a kinda far-fetched rumor.
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I was thinking the same thing.. But it was 70 two days ago then the next day 12 deg with 2 inches of snow ..
Nothing Surprises me anymore.
Intel has already announced the CPU family weeks ago, and it is no longer a rumor. They have one called the Merrifield Z3480, which is a dual-core and runs at 2.13 Ghz, and another Called Moorefield Z3580, which is Quad-core and runs at 2.35 ghz. Both are native 64bit processor SoC's and combine many of the devices needed to perform mobile functions.
Here’s a look at the Intel Z3480 Merrifield SoC:
2.13 GHz dual-core 64-bit-ready SoC (Intel’s 22nm process technology on Silvermont microarchitecture)
13 MP support hardware-capable; 8 MP enabled on Form Factor Device (FFD)
LPDDR3 memory, 2×32 bit, up to 4 GB; 8.5 GB/s
USB 3.0; eMMC 4.5
Android 4.4.2 OS support
1080p 60 fps video recording and playback
H.265 (HEVC) and VP9 support <--- This is amazing
Imagination PowerVR G6400 GPU
Intel Mobile Wireless Display (Intel WiDi)
Intel XMM 7160 LTE Modem for 4G, 3G and 2G
Bluetooth 4.0 low energy, Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n/ac)
Digital Rights Management (DRM) support
HDCP 2.x for premium content over HDMI
http://www.intomobile.com/2014/02/2...aimed-tablets-and-smartphones-z3480-and-z3580
The only thing hard to believe for me is the fact that Nexus may get it. I mean a SoC like this is bound to be expensive, right? Intel isn't known for supplying cheap processors. I would think just the SoC alone is going to be $200. No?
Looks like there is also talk of a Nexus 6... My only question is are these devices just gonna keep getting bigger and bigger????
Seems like soon we will have the nexus tablets with 15 inch screens!! I like the size of my n7 and I hope they keep it.
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Looks like there is also talk of a Nexus 6... My only question is are these devices just gonna keep getting bigger and bigger????
Seems like soon we will have the nexus tablets with 15 inch screens!! I like the size of my n7 and I hope they keep it.
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I think eight inch is better than seven. 6" 8" and 10" seems perfect. They do not design these to cover a need, they design them to sell them. Sadly, humans think when a number goes higher it is automatically better. Even when you realize its not, your brain continues to work that way. If they released another Nexus 7, it would not sell as much as the new Nexus 8.
8" could be done the same size as the nexus 7. Might not be too bad. Personally I'd like something bigger for NY next tablet but I don't want an Intel processor. They are usually weaker on graphics and some apps are not compatible.
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Also think about what LG is doing with bezels... You could get an 8" display in the size of the Nexus 7 frame today, or with very little increase in size.
Not saying LG is the OEM or anything, but bezels are getting smaller and smaller, which means larger screens in the same overall device size.
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6" 8" and 10" seems perfect.
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negative, a 6" phone is too big for many people.
also i've heard the new intel chips will be no good for the custom ROM community: http://androidcommunity.com/intels-...g-trouble-for-android-customization-20140317/
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negative, a 6" phone is too big for many people.
also i've heard the new intel chips will be no good for the custom ROM community: http://androidcommunity.com/intels-...g-trouble-for-android-customization-20140317/
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Scary, but not surprising coming from Intel. The more I think about it the more I don't like the idea of an Intel processor. Too many bad memories of the crappy atom processors in netbooks don't help.
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Also think about what LG is doing with bezels... You could get an 8" display in the size of the Nexus 7 frame today, or with very little increase in size.
Not saying LG is the OEM or anything, but bezels are getting smaller and smaller, which means larger screens in the same overall device size.
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Yeah, I like that idea about less bezel, but I also do not want zero bezel, or some of your fingers flesh while holding it could get in the way. Maybe 1/8 or 1/4 wide bezel, no more. I just know I want a 8" or 9" screen tablet for doing business while I am still in bed. I usually wake up about 5 hours after going to bed, and I can't keep from checking email, paypal, ebay, replying to client questions and customer concerns, etc. I spend 45 minutes every morning and I find the screen and font sizes too small on the N7. I know I can change font sizes, but it just don't fit right. I think another inch, or inch and a half, would make it a little bit better to do business while my eyes are still tired. After 45 minutes my eyes are extremely sore from the constant focusing, and trying to read. Maybe larger fonts and more screen real-estate and my eyes wouldn't get so tired. And I feel that 10" may be just a little too big to snuggle with, lol... But I don't know...
Yeah a 6" phone would be stupid. So, maybe a 5" phone tops, 8" tablet and a 11", to replace the 10?
Oh, and why on earth would it not be good for custom roms and Intel processors? The worlds best chip maker and no one wants one in their mobile device? I would think the source would still be released regardless of the chip type and maker.
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Oh, and why on earth would it not be good for custom roms and Intel processors? The worlds best chip maker and no one wants one in their mobile device? I would think the source would still be released regardless of the chip type and maker.
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Then you need to read up. Intel has a bad reputation in the past with Linux and their atom chip. They are also known for locking down features and building things mainly for Windows.
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Then you need to read up. Intel has a bad reputation in the past with Linux and their atom chip. They are also known for locking down features and building things mainly for Windows.
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Yes, I am well aware of their past Atom woes. But that does not automatically mean these new processors will suffer the same fate.
And it looks possible that Google may have tapped HTC to manufacture this beast...
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/544578/20140324/nexus-8-10-2-release-date-specs.htm#.Uy_kgVTdWBM
Thats not just 5th best tablet. Thats 5th best consumer technology product of any kind and the top pure tablet on the list. Considering CNET's love affair with Apple this is impressive.
http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-10-5-inch/
Not bad. Quite happy as well with the 8.4 myself after tweaking it a bit here and there. Super AMOLED is mostly the reason I keep getting Samsung stuff, if only other Android based brands would provide Super AMOLED as well and give Samsung some competition, ie LG. I only know LG as the other brand who does OLED products.
Yes. Once you have gone super amoled on an Android device it is hard to go back to LCD. Windows devices allow us to dial down the gamma which gives just as good blacks as amoled, but until Android allows that as well, amoled is your only option for truly black blacks.
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@jball yeah I still have the S III. It's collecting dust though. I moved on to the S V. You still rockin the S III?
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@jball yeah I still have the S III. It's collecting dust though. I moved on to the S V. You still rockin the S III?
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Please start an S3 thread in the S3 forum if you wish to discuss the S3.
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Please start an S3 thread in the S3 forum if you wish to discuss the S3.
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Was just answering a question (seems to be deleted now). Not trying to derail your thread breh.
Just stopped by BestBuy to look at the Surface Pro 3. Is it just me or does that thing look and feel cheap? Hated how it felt in my hands. Definitely too big for a tablet. And the screen doesn't come close to the Tab S. Super Amoled has spoiled me forever.
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Just stopped by BestBuy to look at the Surface Pro 3. Is it just me or does that thing look and feel cheap? Hated how it felt in my hands. Definitely too big for a tablet. And the screen doesn't come close to the Tab S. Super Amoled has spoiled me forever.
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Agree. Somehow for me the 8-8.4 size in THE sweet spot for tabs. Got on board with SAMOLED when I bought the original "First" SAMOLED Sammy tab 7.7 a few years back. Got it up to 4.4 (thanks to Civato) and still like to play with it ever so often. Probably will never sell it. I read somewhere the 7.7 was the tab that got Apple all riled up at Sammy...lol! But this Tab S is just perfect!
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Agree. Somehow for me the 8-8.4 size in THE sweet spot for tabs. Got on board with SAMOLED when I bought the original "First" SAMOLED Sammy tab 7.7 a few years back. Got it up to 4.4 (thanks to Civato) and still like to play with it ever so often. Probably will never sell it. I read somewhere the 7.7 was the tab that got Apple all riled up at Sammy...lol! But this Tab S is just perfect!
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I really wanted to like the Surface Pro 3 but it just was so meh to me. Plus if you read the forums it has so many problems. Overheating, throttling, wifi drops, pen drops, touch drops. Just couldn't do it.
Even at the higher resolution the ppi is actually lower than the Surface Pro 2.
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Just stopped by BestBuy to look at the Surface Pro 3. Is it just me or does that thing look and feel cheap? Hated how it felt in my hands. Definitely too big for a tablet. And the screen doesn't come close to the Tab S. Super Amoled has spoiled me forever.
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The Pro 3 isn't supposed to be compared to tablets like the Tab S. It's supposed to be compared to other ultrabooks and high-end laptops like MacBook Pros and Airs.
That being said, I don't think my Pro 3 feels cheap at all. It has a very, sturdy, premium feel to it.
I've haven't compared the screens since I only have the 8.4 and the Pro 3 is so much bigger. I do love the display on the Tab S though.
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I'm probably returning my 8.4.. It's slow in all tasks compared to my iPad Air.. battery life just drains when using it.. it gets hot. Android is still clunky on tablets.. iPads still do everything better in my opinion. If only Apple used this OLED panel on their iPads it would be perfect. .
For being the same price as a iPad Mini I don't see how this is a winner unless you have some aversion to iOS..
I know I must sound like a troll but this Samsung is just slow and choppy/lagging just browsing the web and yes i've tried a stripped, clean, deodexed rom as well which improved it marginally. The choice of a slow Exynos over a 801 Snapdragon is likely a reason, for a "premium" tablet and "premium" pricing Samsung went full derp on the CPU choice.
Most of my above complaints are 90% Android's fault, not Samsung.. If Android actually ran natively to hardware, it might actually smoke iOS in terms of smoothness and speed.
I think Android is far suited better to phones still, even after 3+ years of Android tablet history, it's still a bad experience.
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I'm probably returning my 8.4.. It's slow in all tasks compared to my iPad Air.. battery life just drains when using it.. it gets hot. Android is still clunky on tablets.. iPads still do everything better in my opinion. If only Apple used this OLED panel on their iPads it would be perfect. .
For being the same price as a iPad Mini I don't see how this is a winner unless you have some aversion to iOS..
I know I must sound like a troll but this Samsung is just slow and choppy/lagging just browsing the web and yes i've tried a stripped, clean, deodexed rom as well which improved it marginally. The choice of a slow Exynos over a 801 Snapdragon is likely a reason, for a "premium" tablet and "premium" pricing Samsung went full derp on the CPU choice.
Most of my above complaints are 90% Android's fault, not Samsung.. If Android actually ran natively to hardware, it might actually smoke iOS in terms of smoothness and speed.
I think Android is far suited better to phones still, even after 3+ years of Android tablet history, it's still a bad experience.
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I'm in the market for the Tab S 8.4, after reading this, I'm not too sure anymore. Can anyone confirm? I havent used both device neither.
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I'm in the market for the Tab S 8.4, after reading this, I'm not too sure anymore. Can anyone confirm? I havent used both device neither.
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I don't have any of the issues he's talking about, but I have the Tab S 10.5 (32Gb version) though I doubt they are much different performance wise.
In my case, it's as fast as my wife's iPad 3rd gen, but it has less issues than the iPad which was pissing me off quite often lately..
Battery life should last for weeks if not using it (dropping about 1-2% during the night).
Last time I charged it, it was about 3 days on battery, with a bit over 3 hours screen on time, and there was 72% battery remaining.
For me it's more than enough, I guess some people would need more but I'm ok with it.
Performance is great for me, I haven't had any complains.
Sure, there is sometimes a micro stutter, but they are pretty rare compared to my previous Android tablet.
All in all, it's very nice to use, I'm not thinking about the performance of the device when I'm using it, so I guess that means it's fast enough for me
It boots very fast too if turned off, the sound is better than the iPad 3rd gen, and the screen is just in a league of its own, way ahead of the iPad's and other Android tablets.
There are sometimes Android related quirks like on phones (an app that crashes, etc..) but nothing that's really annoying, and it happens rarely.
I guess you should try it out yourself though (if using one in a store, be sure to kill everything first, as it most likely is filled with stuff in RAM) before making a decision.
I am probably a bit biased because I don't like the limitations of iOS to begin with (though I was using my wife's iPad quite a bit more than my Asus Transformer Prime for performance reasons, even if I was pestering about things I couldn't do on iOS when using it ), so I was waiting for a good Android tablet, but my wife actually wants to replace her iPad with a Tab S now.. she keeps using it when I leave it at home instead of her iPad.
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I don't have any of the issues he's talking about, but I have the Tab S 10.5 (32Gb version) though I doubt they are much different performance wise.
In my case, it's as fast as my wife's iPad 3rd gen, but it has less issues than the iPad which was pissing me off quite often lately..
Battery life should last for weeks if not using it (dropping about 1-2% during the night).
Last time I charged it, it was about 3 days on battery, with a bit over 3 hours screen on time, and there was 72% battery remaining.
For me it's more than enough, I guess some people would need more but I'm ok with it.
Performance is great for me, I haven't had any complains.
Sure, there is sometimes a micro stutter, but they are pretty rare compared to my previous Android tablet.
All in all, it's very nice to use, I'm not thinking about the performance of the device when I'm using it, so I guess that means it's fast enough for me
It boots very fast too if turned off, the sound is better than the iPad 3rd gen, and the screen is just in a league of its own, way ahead of the iPad's and other Android tablets.
There are sometimes Android related quirks like on phones (an app that crashes, etc..) but nothing that's really annoying, and it happens rarely.
I guess you should try it out yourself though (if using one in a store, be sure to kill everything first, as it most likely is filled with stuff in RAM) before making a decision.
I am probably a bit biased because I don't like the limitations of iOS to begin with (though I was using my wife's iPad quite a bit more than my Asus Transformer Prime for performance reasons, even if I was pestering about things I couldn't do on iOS when using it ), so I was waiting for a good Android tablet, but my wife actually wants to replace her iPad with a Tab S now.. she keeps using it when I leave it at home instead of her iPad.
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Thanks for the feedback. I heard you can sync it to your s5 as well(receiving phone calls, etc... ) ?
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Thanks for the feedback. I heard you can sync it to your s5 as well(receiving phone calls, etc... ) ?
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You can indeed use sidesync with the Tab S and an S5
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Thanks for the feedback. I heard you can sync it to your s5 as well(receiving phone calls, etc... ) ?
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Indeed, that works fine as well, though I mostly used it to test out the feature, I haven't really had the need to use it, except once when I was too lazy to go get my phone that I forgot upstairs and wanted to check my sms messages
I am been thinking about getting a new tablet hopefully a Black Friday or Cyber Monday deal. I have S4 phone so I love Samsung products but been torn between Surface Pro 3 or the new 10.5 Tab S. After reading few posts here seems a few of you guys been doing same product comparisons. You seem to swaying me to the Tab... .
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I am been thinking about getting a new tablet hopefully a Black Friday or Cyber Monday deal. I have S4 phone so I love Samsung products but been torn between Surface Pro 3 or the new 10.5 Tab S. After reading few posts here seems a few of you guys been doing same product comparisons. You seem to swaying me to the Tab... .
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let's say your going to pay full price or close enough to it.I would get the
"Tab pro" or a Nexus Tablet .this tablet is nice but the chip isn't the best compared to a Snapdragon in my opinion.not a big enough difference in clarity between Amoled and LCD also in my opinion. Oh and the biggest factor and why most of us are on XDA is the overall development
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Just stopped by BestBuy to look at the Surface Pro 3. Is it just me or does that thing look and feel cheap? Hated how it felt in my hands. Definitely too big for a tablet. And the screen doesn't come close to the Tab S. Super Amoled has spoiled me forever.
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After selling my 32GB Amazon Fire HD 8.9", I also looked at the MS Surface Pro 3 at BB and was not impressed either! You're right, definitely felt cheap and is more overpriced than the Samsung Tab S. Once I saw the display on the Tab S, I was sold. I bought the 32GB 10.5" Tab S mid July and have not regretted the purchase at all!
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let's say your going to pay full price or close enough to it.I would get the
"Tab pro" or a Nexus Tablet .this tablet is nice but the chip isn't the best compared to a Snapdragon in my opinion.not a big enough difference in clarity between Amoled and LCD also in my opinion. Oh and the biggest factor and why most of us are on XDA is the overall development
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Could you compare this one to the Tab 4?