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Nexus 7 review - ipad killer, for me at least

With So many threads pointing out problems, concerns, and other issues with the nexus 7, I thought I would spend a little time talking about how amazing this device actually is! In my opinion, depending on your needs, this tablet is truly better than the ipad in many ways and significantly cheaper!
Design
Google and Asus have done a really great job with the hardware design, look and feel feel. The device feels sturdy and comfortable in your hands, and looks great.
Battery
Battery life has been superb for me. The device can last around 10 hours on a charge and even longer if just standing by.
UI
The nexus 7 and jelly bean are a true join to work with and come off as extremely polished. In many ways this is where I feel the nexus is better than an ipad depending on your needs. iOS is getting a bit stale in my opinion, the with home screen after home screen of simple all icons. With the widgets I have setup on my home screens, my nexus brings all the important information to me, rather that having to open up apps to get weather, twitter feeds etc.
I'll post some more thoughts later but for anyone on the fence about buying, don't hesitate and just do it!

In total agreement, its a totally amazing device. Google have done an amazing job.
I think the size is going to be a popular selling point with many and definetly the price (especially against the big boy iPad)
iPad killer??.. Lets say from where I stand, its certainly going to give Apple a run for their money and will finally place an Android tablet into that big marketshare that Apple dominates.
Ofcourse you'll always get peeps who will buy the iPad, personal choice etc... but this colourful Jelly Bean is going to seriously have an impact on the iPad and Apples dominance, which is great to see..
I'm in love with mine already...

jotei66 said:
In total agreement, its a totally amazing device. Google have done an amazing job.
I think the size is going to be a popular selling point with many and definetly the price (especially against the big boy iPad)
iPad killer??.. Lets say from where I stand, its certainly going to give Apple a run for their money and will finally place an Android tablet into that big marketshare that Apple dominates.
Ofcourse you'll always get peeps who will buy the iPad, personal choice etc... but this colourful Jelly Bean is going to seriously have an impact on the iPad and Apples dominance, which is great to see..
I'm in love with mine already...
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Absolutely. I guess the better question is, does it need to be an iPad killer? I never really wanted an iPad (I've played around with plenty of them) and the minute Google announced this device, I pre-ordered. Why? Size. I personally find the iPad too big to carry around. My fiance has a kindle fire and I liked that size, but it felt too much like an e-reader that car run apps, vs a full fledged tablet.
Jelly Bean is the star of the Show here, and the nexus has all the internal guts needed to make it shine!
Google Now is really great - I googled the Boston Celtics score the other day and now I automatically get notified what the score of the current game is and when the next game is coming up. That's fantastic.
Somehow Google has also figured out where I work and now tells me when there is heavy traffic. This is also fantastic and a huge time saver.
The speach recognition is great too - Very handy to have available offline!

Hopefully a strong competitor
I'm waiting for my N7 to arrive, so I'm not really qualified to comment on whether the N7 is an iPad killer.
That aside, I think we as consumers benefit from a strong and healthy Android, iOS, and Windows8. It forces the competition to continue innovating. This is always good for us. Plus, it will tend to keep prices down.
I prefer Android because I don't want my garden walled - I also have a need to see how things work and make it just so for me. On the other hand, I do understand why some people like to be spoon fed - it requires less thought and they can focus on other things in their lives.
So hopefully it will not kill the iPad, but maybe become a strong competitor and force Apple to improve and innovate and come out with a better iPad (hopefully something more than just a display upgrade).

Not an iPad killer for me, but at this price, why not get one. I'm still keeping my iPad though. The iPad feels more sturdy all around, especially the screen, no creaking no movement. Wi-Fi is more consistent, and no screen flicker. Better app compatibility across the few different hardware and OS versions. Overall the Nexus 7 feels cheap with cheap components, but hey it really is sold for cheap. Cheap enough to play with. Not an Android or Google hater. This is my fourth Android device and second Google device. Just throwing my opinions out here.
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I have both a Nexus 7 and an iPad 3, and I can say that they both have their advantages. App support is excellent on the iPad, and the screen is still superior, so I tend to use it for heavier browsing sessions, RSS reading, and a variety of apps that don't exist on Android (none of which are essential). However, the Nexus 7 is lighter and of course has the Android OS advantages, so I tend to use IT for ebook reading and general "what's going on in the world" kind off stuff.
It's nice to be able to own both, but if I were to be forced to choose one over the other, I'd go with the Nexus 7 if only because I like Android better than iOS (which really wastes an otherwise great tablet). Jelly Bean pretty much erased the "fluidity" advantage that that iPad has enjoyed over other Android tablets, letting the general usefulness of an Android tablet (widgets, file system access, etc.) really shine through.
I think if the Nexus 7 had come out the same year as the iPad, things would be different in the market. But of course the iPad has such a massive head start, it's going to be a long row to hoe for Android tablets.

love this device! It's funny I bought my mom a New iPad for her bday because shes been wanting one for a long time now. I get my N7 a few days later and show her some of the cool stuff it does (ie:google now) and she was actually getting jealous of my device. For me I never been interested in the iPad, could u imagine dropping that on ur face in bed? lol

Scythe024 said:
love this device! It's funny I bought my mom a New iPad for her bday because shes been wanting one for a long time now. I get my N7 a few days later and show her some of the cool stuff it does (ie:google now) and she was actually getting jealous of my device. For me I never been interested in the iPad, could u imagine dropping that on ur face in bed? lol
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Honestly, I don't get this "dropping an ebook reader on your face" thing. I don't hold mine above my face when I'm reading, I rest it on my chest in portrait. The Nexus 7 is far more comfortable than the iPad even this way, but...

wynand32 said:
Honestly, I don't get this "dropping an ebook reader on your face" thing. I don't hold mine above my face when I'm reading, I rest it on my chest in portrait. The Nexus 7 is far more comfortable than the iPad even this way, but...
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i dont exactly read a whole book while holding it over my face, sometimes i just move and try to hold into different positions trying to get comfy or just a quick use and i dont want to prop myself up to use it lol.

I really don't get the iPad's bad comments here. I happen to own a iPhone, iPod, iPad 1 2 and The New iPad, with the Retina display on and the A5X in on The New iPad, there's really no comparison... none! Dude! The Tegra 3 can't even out do the iPad 2's specs. Don't get me wrong, I love my Nexus S, Nexus Galaxy and my Nexus 7 to death, but that still doesn't give me the right to blast Apple or Google because I thank GOD Apple has Google on there backs, this just mean better technology for the end user in the end. So, only GOD can judge me and not you!
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Haha! I mean... Google have done a good job but I pad killer is a bit to far. I've had the I pad and have the nexus 7 and the ipad is better. Apps,screen,stability and sorry to say the cameras on it lol. As I said the nexus 7 is quality but has a lot of things missing to kill the ipad.
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I disagree, I think the Nexus 7 is a true ipad killer.
Gaming is silky smooth, more so than the ipad3 as a lot of high end games struggle on the ipad3 due to the very high pixel ratio it has.
Jelly bean makes it silky smooth throughout the device,
The price alone makes it an ipad killer, I don't think anyone can justify paying more than double for the extras the ipad offers.
More storage, better screen (but as said, this is a negative for gaming) and a camera.
Nobody uses a rear facing camera on a tablet, who in their right mind would hold up a tablet in public to take any photo, never mind an average photo - we all have phones and actual cameras that does this & does it better.
If you can cope with the storage limitation, why pay double for nothing?
It's not like the Nexus7 is a bad screen, it's still HD resolution, in a 7inch format factor.
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chrisjcks said:
I disagree, I think the Nexus 7 is a true ipad killer.
Gaming is silky smooth, more so than the ipad3 as a lot of high end games struggle on the ipad3 due to the very high pixel ratio it has.
Jelly bean makes it silky smooth throughout the device,
The price alone makes it an ipad killer, I don't think anyone can justify paying more than double for the extras the ipad offers.
More storage, better screen (but as said, this is a negative for gaming) and a camera.
Nobody uses a rear facing camera on a tablet, who in their right mind would hold up a tablet in public to take any photo, never mind an average photo - we all have phones and actual cameras that does this & does it better.
If you can cope with the storage limitation, why pay double for nothing?
It's not like the Nexus7 is a bad screen, it's still HD resolution, in a 7inch format factor.
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I will have to greatly disagree. The New iPad, with that sexy Retina display you was just stepping on; wait, you must not own The New iPad because of the none facts above. With the Retina display it still outperforms Tegra 3 while still looking great with that great and unbeaten 2048 by 1536 resolution. Here take a look for yourself and read the facts http://www.redmondpie.com/a5-vs.-a5...-benchmarked-the-winner-is-rather-surprising/ Now, I'm not a fan boy, I'm just stating the truth! It helps me sleep better at night and gaming on my iPad has never been so smooth with the A5X chip.
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jalyn02 said:
I will have to greatly disagree. The New iPad, with that sexy Retina display you was just stepping on; wait, you must not own The New iPad because of the none facts above. With the Retina display it still outperforms Tegra 3 while still looking great with that great and unbeaten 2048 by 1536 resolution. Here take a look for yourself and read the facts http://www.redmondpie.com/a5-vs.-a5...-benchmarked-the-winner-is-rather-surprising/ Now, I'm not a fan boy, I'm just stating the truth! It helps me sleep better at night and gaming on my iPad has never been so smooth with the A5X chip.
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Go try some high end games on the iPad3, it struggles because the GPU is not good enough for the high pixel density of the display.
So,whilst you get a high resolution screen - go check your gaming performance.
You can't honestly say you haven't seen as such.
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Go try some high end games on the iPad3, it struggles like crazy because the GPU is not good enough for the high pixel density of the display.
Modern Combat 3, riptide gp, shadowgun etc
So,whilst you get a high resolution screen - go check your gaming performance.
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Dude! I play these games everyday with no issues @ all. Do you have a iPad 3? Because I'm not getting lag at all! I'm going to stay on topic now because this is starting to make me feel like a fan boy when I'm not. Okay dude maybe it's that your in a Android spell, like you see lag in everything none Android. I've just given you the facts. Now, can you explain, how is there any lag in The New iPad when with the Retina display it outperformed the Tegra 3. I love my Nexus 7, but if the Nexus 7 was to be a iPad killer it would not be 200 bucks, but what you get with the Nexus 7 is a great bang for the buck!
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I don't own them, but ive used them all.
Its quite simple,
Apple doubled the GPU cores in the iPad3 compared to iPad2. (x2)
However, the iPad3 is pushing out x4 the pixels compared to the ipad2.
Its not difficult to see that.
Games that run at the ipad3's native resolution will run slower than on the ipad2.
The trick that you might not be seeing, is quite a lot of games are not running at the native resolution of the ipad3, but are infact being upscaled.
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Will be my ipad killer, too. I'm tired of schlepping the heavy unwieldy new iPad around and my needs are simple enough so that between the Nexus 7 and my trusted netbook, everything is already covered. I'm getting rid of my new ipad as soon as I'm home.

Before anyone calls it an iPad killer, I think it needs to be more.widely available even in the US. When I walk info a bestbuy and see it for sale and marketed then we can talk about iPad killer. Right nos, not yet
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chrisjcks said:
I don't own them, but ive used them all.
Its quite simple,
Apple doubled the GPU cores in the iPad3 compared to iPad2. (x2)
However, the iPad3 is pushing out x4 the pixels compared to the ipad2.
Its not difficult to see that.
Games that run at the ipad3's native resolution will run slower than on the ipad2.
The trick that you might not be seeing, is quite a lot of games are not running at the native resolution of the ipad3, but are infact being upscaled.
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You are correct. In fact there was a recent article about the new Macbook Pro's (with retina display) performance and the becnchmark revealed that even with the fairly high end GPU, it just couldn't keep up with the extra pixels it had to push. Same thing with the iPad 3.
Does the iPad 3 have a great screen? Of course, no one is denying that. Is the Nexus 7 screen close? Absolutely.

The new ipad is amazing and better than the 7 mainly due to iTunes and airplay and air video. But the ipad does cost more. Even though I have an ipad I prefer the 7.
I do wonder what Apple will be bringing out with the ipad mini. Comparing this when it's realised might be a fairer comparison.

Get a Nexus 7? Have a Note

Hi,
Sorry for another should I buy thread, but I just had to get some things cleared. I already have a Galaxy Note, and I want to do a bit of future proofing and want to save my phone's battery for phone tasks instead of gaming, so thought of a tablet. My main aim is to spend the least possible in order to future proof reasonably in terms of gaming. My concern is games like NOVA 3 for one are considerably laggy on the Nexus 7 unless over clocked. And Tegra chips usually age a lot faster due to most games or apps being more optimised for other chipsets or the different coding needed for tegra combined with its weak hardware. I have had this experience with my Xoom(tegra 2) which I still have. Im kind of tempted to buy a Nexus 7 but Im afraid it will die a premature death like the Xoom. (as in gaming not os updates). Or any other options? Ofcourse this is the Nexus 7 forum, but where else to ask. And Happy New Year

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Considering the fact that your phone rocks a 5 inch display its not very clever go for a 7 inch tablet, even though you still notice a difference in terms of screen space, I would recommend you go for a 10 inch tablet, like the nexus 10.

I may get a note 2 this winter. My daughter has a ten inch tablet...I think I would move up to an Intel surface at that size. A seven inch tablet is still almost twice the size. It is also viable for two handed landscape gaming.
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brizey said:
I may get a note 2 this winter. My daughter has a ten inch tablet...I think I would move up to an Intel surface at that size. A seven inch tablet is still almost twice the size. It is also viable for two handed landscape gaming.
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Same,
I would never go for a 7" tablet,
but that's personal taste I guess

Pneumo said:
Same,
I would never go for a 7" tablet,
but that's personal taste I guess
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I love the 7 inch tablets
Big reason it fits my pocket and carry it around most of the time....
10 inch unfortunately wont fit the pocket, unless someone comes out with a tablet with no bezel..

Thanks for the replies guys My main concerns are those mentioned in the first post. Will Nexus 7 be as future proof as the Nexus 10? The 7 fits easily in my budget so can buy it immediately but will have to save up for the 10. My main usage would be gaming(maximum priority) followed by browsing, movie watching, e-book reading, document editing etc. So I just want to have a tablet for gaming so that I wont waste my phones battery.

How future proof is the Nexus 7

Looking for a fully featured 7 tablet, that I will be using for web browsing, gaming (intense ones ) and studying.
Planning on using this device for a couple of years before replacing I am assuming 3 to 4 years?
Our family currently has the Tab 2 7.0 and I reckon it's a bit sluggish, is the Nexus 7 exceptionally smooth?
Should I get it?

It's a Nexus device so will be supported for a couple of years at least with the latest and greatest Android.
It will already be a upgrade from the Tab, as it runs Jellybean.
Nothing in the world is future-proof more than a few years (notable exception being my PS3, which is stil bang upto date despite being bought in 2006).

In terms of processing-power it's right up there with the Nexus 4 and the Galaxy SIII, so you're not looking at problems playing games in the near future.
Also, you got an active development community for the device, so even if Google decides to not support the tablet with new versions of Android, you can still keep up to date with what the devs are pumping out.
I've been using mine almost all the time when i'm not sitting in front of my rig, and it has never let me down.

I might say it is likely to be future proof for at least 2 years. It has the hardware, and Google is known to support their nexus line for quite a while. My guess is that it will be in the front line of the upcoming key lime pie update tier.

It's not really possibly to future proof a device until performance can only be increased by a change in architecture, and even then only marginally, much like in the pc category.
Software wise it's a nexus, it will rule the roost for 2-3 upgrades
Hardware wise I'll give it till the new Tegra 4, snapdragon 800 and the exynos 5 octa come out
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ramnex said:
It's not really possibly to future proof a device until performance can only be increased by a change in architecture, and even then only marginally, much like in the pc category.
Software wise it's a nexus, it will rule the roost for 2-3 upgrades
Hardware wise I'll give it till the new Tegra 4, snapdragon 800 and the exynos 5 octa come out
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I know that the new chips introduced at CES 2013 are a few times more powerfull than the Tegra 3. What I ment was that future apps and games will work OK for 2 years. The average life span of a phone and table is 2 years, if it's a flagship device at the time you make the purchase. And the thing is if you fear buying a new device just because it's not future proof, you'll end up never buying anything. 200 dollars isn't a lot of money for what you're getting with this tablet.

Re: How future proof is the Nexus 70
I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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The N7 is faster than a Tab, its processors clock at 1.3 GHz and in terms of build quality i'd say they are on equal levels.
I know there are a few stories out there about screen lift on early batches of the N7, but since I can only speak from personal experience, I can say that the build quality of mine is exceptional.

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I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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You probably shouldn't try to provide an answer when you don't know what you're talking about. The nexus 7 is a 1.2ghz quad core processor, tab 2 is 1ghz dual core, not the same. As for apps Samsung forces on users, there's always plenty of alternatives on the play store.
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CrazyPeter said:
It's a Nexus device so will be supported for a couple of years at least with the latest and greatest Android.
It will already be a upgrade from the Tab, as it runs Jellybean.
Nothing in the world is future-proof more than a few years (notable exception being my PS3, which is stil bang upto date despite being bought in 2006).
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I hope so. I just bought one off of Ebay and I'm waiting on delivery. I'm a little skeptical of the performance of the N7. I have a SG3 that has higher Quadrant scores, so I hope it has enough processing power to go beyond KLP.

If I were you, I wouldn't give a rats ass about Quadrant scores, as they usually say jack-s**t about the speed or usability of a device.
Same deal with PC-Benchmarks really, they are a marketing tool to get you to buy new hardware.

2 years for a 250$ device seems like more than enough to say that it paid for itself. Most probably the games development will skyrocket, better specs will be required, better screens, more storage space. So, as I said, for me 2 years is a good estimate.

jadephyre said:
If I were you, I wouldn't give a rats ass about Quadrant scores, as they usually say jack-s**t about the speed or usability of a device.
Same deal with PC-Benchmarks really, they are a marketing tool to get you to buy new hardware.
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Greed, that's is what i bought one.
I bought my wife a TF300 several months ago, it is on par with the N7's performance but the N7 cost almost half the price.

IAmNice said:
Its a 1.3 GHz quad core.
Just buy it. It should be future proof for at least 1 year. Its cheap anyways
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It's a 1.2 quad core, 1.3 is single core mode.
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95Z28 said:
It's a 1.2 quad core, 1.3 is single core mode.
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Um. What? It's a quad core 1.3ghz. The companion core is is 500Mhz.

let me put this in perspective... technology changes at a rapid rate. since the n7's release just 6 months, there are now a few devices that outperform it in games (the galaxy note 2 is a great example). play some intense games like need for speed on the n7 and galaxy note 2 and you will see how laggy the n7 can get compared to other devices. the n7 is already becoming an outdated device, hardware-wise. games will only become more demanding, they're not gonna just hit a plateau for two years or wait until the n7 has had a good shelf life. games are already lagging on the n7. if you want something future proof for the next year or two, then good luck, that will never happen with tablets because of the growing rate of the software market. your best bet is to buy the latest and greatest when it's released. that's the only way to "futureproof" yourself.

IAmNice said:
Its a 1.3 GHz quad core.
Just buy it. It should be future proof for at least 1 year. Its cheap anyways
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maybe not..
http://www.nu.nl/gadgets/3016117/asus-maakt-tweede-nexus-7-tablet.html
or in english: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130128PD222.html
it depends on when google wil release the next nexus 7.

OptimusLove said:
I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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Wrong on so many levels. Is this why you wanted to hang out in here even though you don't have a N7?
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let me put this in perspective... technology changes at a rapid rate. since the n7's release just 6 months, there are now a few devices that outperform it in games (the galaxy note 2 is a great example). play some intense games like need for speed on the n7 and galaxy note 2 and you will see how laggy the n7 can get compared to other devices. the n7 is already becoming an outdated device, hardware-wise. games will only become more demanding, they're not gonna just hit a plateau for two years or wait until the n7 has had a good shelf life. games are already lagging on the n7. if you want something future proof for the next year or two, then good luck, that will never happen with tablets because of the growing rate of the software market. your best bet is to buy the latest and greatest when it's released. that's the only way to "futureproof" yourself.
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This is contrary to everything I read about the tab 2 before buying my N7. Almost every reviewer complained about the Tab 2 being noticeably slower than the N7 in gaming.

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This is contrary to everything I read about the tab 2 before buying my N7. Almost every reviewer complained about the Tab 2 being noticeably slower than the N7 in gaming.
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i never mention the Galaxy Tab 2 in my post.

It's a Nexus device, so it will be supported going forward for quite a while, and since it is easy to unlock, the developer community will support it for quite a while.
It probably won't be the best gaming device in 2 years, since that pushes hardware well beyond most other tasks, but if it starts to get a bit slower, you can always push the clocks. It seems most of the N7s will push the cores to 1.4 or 1.5 without any issues, and 1.6 is doable for burst before hitting thermal limits, with some chips able to run even faster. The GPU pushes quite well too.
I'd fully suggest one as a reasonably future-proof device. Plus, they'll likely still resell for $50-$100 in 2 years, which means you're paying $50-$75/yr for a Nexus device. That's pretty good.

Thinking about buying one

I'm thinking about buying anexus7 . do you guys think it is still a good buy? Should I wait? I like the idea of a nexus 10 but the dual core CPU compared to a quad to me does not seem right. Suggestions?
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Quad core does not 'always' mean better than dual core. If I had a chance (the money) to buy a nexus 10, I definitely would.
In my opinion android isn't even optimized properly for quad core, its not needed.... My nexus 7 VERY rarely needs to put use to more than two cores. The two cores of the nexus 10 are powerful ones
Not saying the nexus 7 isn't still worth buying. If I didn't have a nexus 7, I'd still end up buying one its a great device and does everything I need easily, while having a smaller screen size. (Which is perfect for me)
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Another should I? LOL
Well...to add something more....
The n7 is awesome. Period. If you want more awesome....spend way more, or wait for new devices.
Honestly ....people keep asking this, and its up to you. I bought one at Christmas cause its cheap and arguably the best 7" out there.
Budget, desperation and size preferences make this an apples to oranges discussion.
Not being a Dink, but seriously ....read the many threads that exist with the same question. Might help you.
People have stated their opinions on this in lots of similar threads.
Good luck, if you get one....enjoy!
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I got my nexus about 3weeks ago. I do love it. But i got my so the samsung galaxy tab 2. It has things likw better. It is dual core vs quad. Bur i dknt feel any performance difference. It has sd card slot. 2 cameras. Both are better than the one camera on nexus.
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kj2112 said:
The n7 is awesome. Period. If you want more awesome....spend way more, or wait for new devices.
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^ this. already into march, a case could certainly be made for holding off a few months until new devices are unveiled, like the much anticipated successor to the nexus 7 (this would be my course of action if i didn't already have an n7). but if you need a tablet now, you can't really beat throwing down $200 for this beast.

I disagree on the N10. Power wise, the Dual core snapdragon is faster... but since it is pushing that insane resolution, it is about the same speed, or laggier, then the N7.
This is why I think uber high resolutions are a waste. Useless number game with no benefit. Just a waste of resources.
The N10 has some nice features like HDMI out but 7" and price is right on the N7. The N7 has a super high DPI. Don't upgrade something that doesn't need upgrading.
This is why the Transformer 300 is faster then the Prime, different res.
I'd buy the N7 again... and I did. We have 4 of them. And I just bought 30 for a job.
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For me the N7 hits my sweet spot in terms of performance, prize and size! :good:

I'm in the same boat. I know I definitely want a Nexus tablet to replace my crappy PlayBook but I think I'm going to hold off to see what is unveiled at Google I/O before making a decision. If a successor is released I will buy that instead.

I was thinking about selling my TF700+Dock for a Nexus 7, but then again the Nexus 7 Successor should be coming out later this year. May just wait for that.
Will miss the Transformer though because of the keyboard dock (extra batt life) and it propping the screen up for viewing. Just couldn't stand the laggy IO of the TF700 though. I was reading a few other threads on here about the current Nexus 7's IO being a bottleneck, but I'm sure it's nowhere as bad as the TF700s.

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For me the N7 hits my sweet spot in terms of performance, prize and size! :good:
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I agree! I love the size of this. It's basically pocketable, even with the Sharkk keyboard case I bought. I haven't touched my iPad in three weeks since I bought it.

What's with all these "Should I buy?" threads?
Look. If you want to buy it, buy it. If you don't, then don't. How are we supposed to know your needs and what you'll be using it for? Watch some videos (there are around 3 million on YouTube) for the N7 and make the choice yourself. It's just a $200 tablet, not an Aston Martin DBS.

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What's with all these "Should I buy?" threads?
Look. If you want to buy it, buy it. If you don't, then don't. How are we supposed to know your needs and what you'll be using it for? Watch some videos (there are around 3 million on YouTube) for the N7 and make the choice yourself. It's just a $200 tablet, not an Aston Martin DBS.
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What he said... I didn't like the sgtab2 cuz the screen was fuzzy and wasnt sharp and clean like the n7
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Hi, after owning the asus TF201 for over a year now, I also wanted to change to the nexus 7 3g.
I had several problems with the TF201 (laggy wifi, laggy bluetooth, no gps, bad overall performance). During the last year I started hating asus for this design flaw.
Now i noticed, that the N7 is also produced by asus. Should I really try another product of this company?
However, yesterday I wanted to set my order.
Fortunately I found some posts about a stuttering when streaming the audio by bluetooth and additional wifi usage. Some have this stuttering, some others report that their wifi-speed drops near zero.
For me that all sounds like the same strange problems I had with the TF201 (always thought the only reason for my problems was the aluminium-case of the TF201).
Now I'm really dissapointed. The benefit of the N7 3G would be the mobility and the additional connectivity.
I also know that the nexus is a really cheap device. Nevertheless the main-functions should work.
What do you think is the reason for this bluetooth audio stuttering? Software based or really a crappy hardware (I trust asus wouldn't mind).

It all depends. I don't remember reading about a lot of people having Bluetooth problems on a stock device. Those of us who have it are the ones usually on custom ROM's. For example I'm on Paranoid Android 3+ and it's known to have Bluetooth issues. There is also a fix for it but I didn't bother as I never use Bluetooth.
Bottom line is, most people don't have these problems. What you're reading here is a great majority of people who only have problems. That's why they're here, because they're looking around for help. Millions of users I'm sure are perfectly happy with their N7's.

HP Slate7 - Nexus 7 competitor?

Just saw this pop up on Engadget:
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/slate-7/landing.html?jumpid=ex_r10104_go_slate
Decent specs, camera, microSD slot and the possibility of HDMI out. Probably too late to the game, but I might have opted for it over the Nexus 7 had it been available last August. While I like the fast Android updates, I feel like Nexus owners are sometimes used as Guinea pigs to beta test the newest bug-filled features.

Eh low resolution screen is kinda a deal breaker, anything lower than 720p is a pain to use.
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ED2O9 said:
Just saw this pop up on Engadget:
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/slate-7/landing.html?jumpid=ex_r10104_go_slate
Decent specs, camera, microSD slot and the possibility of HDMI out. Probably too late to the game, but I might have opted for it over the Nexus 7 had it been available last August. While I like the fast Android updates, I feel like Nexus owners are sometimes used as Guinea pigs to beta test the newest bug-filled features.
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That link doesn't have the most detailed info. I found; http://www.gsmarena.com/hp_slate_7-5317.php
Honestly disappointing screen kills it right there. The cam is better, but really I don't think 3.5mp means anything compared to a 1.2 both were good10 years ago.

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Just saw this pop up on Engadget:
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/slate-7/landing.html?jumpid=ex_r10104_go_slate
Decent specs, camera, microSD slot and the possibility of HDMI out. Probably too late to the game, but I might have opted for it over the Nexus 7 had it been available last August. While I like the fast Android updates, I feel like Nexus owners are sometimes used as Guinea pigs to beta test the newest bug-filled features.
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I think the slate looks good and is more of an alternative or maybe a compromise between some of the very cheap tablets and the nexus 7.
For me the smaller battery would be the killer. HP quote 2AH where as the N7 has a 4.3AH battery with 3 hours more use available. A four hour flight to Lanzarote would be marginal with the Slate by the time you take time at the airport into account, it will be used to keep my 2 year old entertained.
The expandable storage isn't an issue for me as I have the 32GB version. Not interested in holding a tablet up to take picture, I have a phone and a camera for that. HDMI; had that on my Nokia N8 and used it once to try it, I have used dlna to stream to the telly though.
To me it looks like someone at HP has bought a N7, looks at the pros (cheap, light,size) and cons (fixed storage, no back camera) and used it as a starting point and tried to beat it. Good luck to them but I think it will suit a slightly different market to the N7.

ED2O9 said:
Just saw this pop up on Engadget:
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/slate-7/landing.html?jumpid=ex_r10104_go_slate
Decent specs, camera, microSD slot and the possibility of HDMI out. Probably too late to the game, but I might have opted for it over the Nexus 7 had it been available last August. While I like the fast Android updates, I feel like Nexus owners are sometimes used as Guinea pigs to beta test the newest bug-filled features.
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It looks good... but I think you're probably right about it being too late to the game. If HP can market/advertise this as aggressively as Google has with the N7, then it might stand a chance. Google are repostioning themselves as 'content providers' - music, books, magazines - and the 'cheap-as-chips' N7 is a loss leading gateway, somewhat similar to Amazons Kindle.
Hewlett Packard are a tech company first and foremost, and don't have a similar repository of IP content that they can push to make this 'slate' a compelling purchase. In this digital age, people buy their tech based on what they can watch, read or listen to.
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Still, having said all that... it's an intriguing device... I like the microSD card slot (something sorely lacking on the N7).
If it has an easily unlockable bootloader (I don't know what HP's track record is on that), then I might consider getting one.
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No GPS either.
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I had it with HP a long time ago. Laptops dropping dead all over the place for no apparent or discoverable reason. And then tech support being worse that shoving a cactus in my rear end. So no. HP is just. No.
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Screen aucks no GPS thick and ugly silver plus HP logo on there automatically kills it. The HP brand is no longer a symbol of cutting edge got to have technology. It is a symbol of a relic technology company that is holding on to its last strong hold which is server technology and enterprise.

I think it's a good timing. with N7 2.0 coming soon, ppl will consider this one as a cheap alternative to the N7 2.0 instead of the old N7.

rather be a Guinea pig and get more regular updates than to be stuck with something that will 99% of the time will never see the latest is update. plus don't have to worry about all the bloat that other companies seem to love to fill phones/tablets up with. Google has also shown even with older nexus devices they have been kept updated to atleast ICS where as other devices you could forget about it. I am sure when keylime pie comes out the nexus 7/10 will see it. how many tablets the same age or newer will see that?
like the genie off Aladdin said often imitated but never duplicated.
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I don't feel the HP Slate is anywhere near a competitor for the N7.

HP Slate 7 Android Tablet Review
Uhhh.. The Slate 7 is a stinker.
This is a quick unboxing and review of HP's latest attempt at an Android tablet.
I can't say a whole lot of good things about this tablet. I was sorely disappointed in the overall build quality. The screen was almost rubbery to the touch and it appeared to be warped and separated on the edges. The screen was odd and had almost a glazed look to it. The back camera is decent, but the front camera is not even adequate for video conferencing, let alone the occasional "selfie". The specs are sub par for the price, in my opinion. I wouldn't spend more than $99 US for a tablet like this. I have seen off brand, generic tablets that are build better. I suppose the one saving grace is the stock Jelly Bean 4.1.1. For what you would spend on this tablet ($170 US), you should jump on a Nexus 7 or a Kindle Fire HD.
This thing is starting to make the HP Touchpad look like a great success.
These are my opinions, of course.

not a bad tablet but hp customer support is pretty crap. That and the fact that there laptops are gone really bad lately.

I think if they priced it at $99 you'd have a real alternative for people don't wanna spend $200 for a quality tab. But its only $30 less than the nexus 7, with considerably weaker specs. Who wouldn't just cough up the extra cash?
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It beats the nexus 7 in all benshmarks exept gl
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It's better to look at the Fonepad.
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I was considering getting one of these, but then all the specs fell below what the Nexus 7 had in store for me so I went with the Nexus.
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Doesn't even compete just look at the specs.
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It beats the nexus 7 in all benshmarks exept gl
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Look at the wild benchmark differences on exact same devices!! Depends on a lot what you score. So benchmarks are basically meaningless. Anyone can sacrifice battery and smoothness to put up a good score!
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No GPS either.
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Got one today. It appears it does have a GPS. It pinned me right down to my house in Google Maps.
I will say this, it doesn't seem laggy at alll. The problem is that some apps (Instagram, SiriusXM, Foursquare, UPS Mobile, Jetblue, and others) are marked incompatible in the Play Store. Apps like Twitter, Facebook, Angry Birds Friends, etc. work fine.
I'm not sure what the delimiting factor is, but it may have something to do with the resolution and how the apps were built.