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My Nexus 7 Experience : (

After some time playing with the Nexus 7 I felt compelled to write my impressions. This device was ordered for my mom to use for web browsing and email.
I read a lot of reviews from several tech sites as well as some forums before deciding the Nexus 7 was the right device for her.
The reviews around the tech sites were almost all positives regarding the quality and price on this device, on the other hand, the reviews from several forum members where not that great.
People where reporting issues ranging from screen separation, blown speakers and death pixels.
Tech sites mentioned the build quality of the device and the almost leather like feeling of the back surface as good points.
Almost all of them concluded that this was the tablet to get at this price point. Some of them even went as far as saying that they haven't used their iPads after getting the Nexus 7 (People Such as TWiT hosts).
All of those great reviews, even from Apple pundits, made me beleive this was a great tablet for its price point. So today we finally received the device. The first problem was noticed as soon as we opened the device, the screen was separated and lifted above the silver bezel from the left side, so much that you can hear it flexing when touching it.
The second problem was noticed when the screen was turned on. Right on the center a pixel stuck on red color, so annoying that no matter what backgroun you use, it still shows.
I own a Motorola Xoom 4G/LTE and the Nexus 7 compared to it feels like a toy. I know they are not in the same price range, but the screen on the Xoom has the feel of hard tick glass that the Nexus lacks. I don't see how the back of the Nexus is supposed to feel like leather as mentioned by some reviewers either.
I already did the required steps to exange the device for a new one. I just hope that the replacement comes free of issues, even after reading from so many members over at XDA that it may not be the case.
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I want to give an update on my experience with this device. The RMA process was completed and the replacement tablet came without issues.
My Mom has been using it ever since receiving it and I check the device once in a while just to make sure the lift screen problem is not present.
I have to say that after using the replacement unit my opinion on this tablet has changed for good. You get great value for the price and ,being a Nexus device, the assurance to that it will receive updates on time.
My original opinion was based on a defective unit, so I felt the necessity to post this update for any person still reading this section of the forums prior to making their decision to purchase one.
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What a bummer dude, did you order it through the Play Store?

yes I did ordered from the play store.
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Honestly, even with screen flicker, this is ten times better than my iPad 2. I'm putting my iPad up on eBay tomorrow night and I'm proud to do it. I'm using a ZAGGKeys Flex Keyboard to type this post, I LOVE my N7. If you want to check out my review it's over in the accessories section of the forum.
I really hope you give the N7 another chance. This tab kicks @$$, literally.
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Lare2 said:
yes I did ordered from the play store.
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When did you place the order?

Nxxx said:
Honestly, even with screen flicker, this is ten times better than my iPad 2. I'm putting my iPad up on eBay tomorrow night and I'm proud to do it. I'm using a ZAGGKeys Flex Keyboard to type this post, I LOVE my N7. If you want to check out my review it's over in the accessories section of the forum.
I really hope you give the N7 another chance. This tab kicks @$$, literally.
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I totally love the device. the size makes more sense to me than my 10.1 inches Xoom. I just want an issue free device.
After reading so many posts about people receiving a flawless device makes me think the one I received was a lemon.
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When did you place the order?
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Saturday 21 and arrived Wednesday 25
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Sorry that happened to you but JOIN THE CLUB. Yes we all know Google and Asus screwed the pooch on the launch of the n7. No need to start a crying thread. And your complain about the quality? Dude its a 200 dollar device. Its quality for that price! So stop whining and bae will us ALL who had a detective device. This tablet blows your Xoom out the water.
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Feel sorry for you
Hi mate, I feel sorry for you that your Nexus 7 had those problems. I received mine yesterday (16 GB version) and it is perfectly fine. Hope you'll get the replacement soon.
I'm happy with the device so far and my Transformer Prime will surely be jealous. Nexus 7 is small and light enough to carry around and to read in bed, what I can't do with the Prime because of its size and weight. 7" is my thing and definitely not the 10".
The GPS is very good. After a few seconds 11 satellites were found (note: clear sky today in London!). Overall the OS is more responsive than the Prime. So far there is for example no message "Web browser is not responding" that I sometimes get on Prime since the latest update.
The only annoying thing with Nexus 7 is that the home screen is only in portrait mode. But I'm going to root it and I can say goodbye to that annoyance.

feelinfroggy23 said:
Sorry that happened to you but JOIN THE CLUB. Yes we all know Google and Asus screwed the pooch on the launch of the n7. No need to start a crying thread. And your complain about the quality? Dude its a 200 dollar device. Its quality for that price! So stop whining and bae will us ALL who had a detective device. This tablet blows your Xoom out the water.
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I'll wait until the replacement comes to see. My Xoom has 64GB Total storage and 4G LTE connectivity, so for me, the N7 can't fulfill my tablet needs yet. But recognize that my mom seems to be the perfect candidate for it with its 8GB and size.
If my replacement comes without issues, I'll pull the trigger on a second one with 16GB cause my wife liked the form factor. I've been a Google supporter for a long time, heck I paid 800+ on day one for and unlocked Xoom to dive early on this android tablet adventure so I'm totally on their camp, but I expect at least a working device.
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I think you should have gone with an iPad unless your Mom is one of the exceptions and real tech savvy and computer oriented. I hope this doesn't read as me being negative, I understand being upset and I'm not trying to come off as rude at all.
Don't get me wrong I love my nexus 7 and I love Android especially on a quad core tablet. I also have the Asus transformer prime and its one of my favorite devices ever. But when it comes to buying for parents, if looking for something amazing out of the box and simple and easy, I don't think the first batch of first gen nexus 7 tablets is the best choice in most cases.
I know you already bought yours and everything but since you wanted to inform others I just thought I would share my experiences that I've learned along the way.
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CharliesTheMan said:
I think you should have gone with an iPad unless your Mom is one of the exceptions and real tech savvy and computer oriented. I hope this doesn't read as me being negative, I understand being upset and I'm not trying to come off as rude at all.
Don't get me wrong I love my nexus 7 and I love Android especially on a quad core tablet. I also have the Asus transformer prime and its one of my favorite devices ever. But when it comes to buying for parents, if looking for something amazing out of the box and simple and easy, I don't think the first batch of first gen nexus 7 tablets is the best choice in most cases.
I know you already bought yours and everything but since you wanted to inform others I just thought I would share my experiences that I've learned along the way.
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She is pretty much OS agnostic, she can find its way around on the two computer they have at home, even though one is running Slitaz Linux, she understand the basic concepts to be able to figure it out where the browser, email and games are no matter the OS.
I took it to Best Buy to see the iPads and she played with it already, but she also played with two tablets 7 inches in size from Samsung and Acer, and decided that was a better form factor.
She basically wanted something to use out of the house for some games she plays and on the house while not on the PC. The problem here is with the device being defective rather than hard for her to use.
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Shame you received a device with hardware defects - no user should ever except it as such, get it replaced and enjoy a perfect device.
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Lare2 said:
After some time playing with the Nexus 7 I felt compelled to write my impressions. This device was ordered for my mom to use for web browsing and email.
I read a lot of reviews from several tech sites as well as some forums before deciding the Nexus 7 was the right device for her.
The reviews around the tech sites were almost all positives regarding the quality and price on this device, on the other hand, the reviews from several forum members where not that great.
People where reporting issues ranging from screen separation, blown speakers and death pixels.
Tech sites mentioned the build quality of the device and the almost leather like feeling of the back surface as good points.
Almost all of them concluded that this was the tablet to get at this price point. Some of them even went as far as saying that they haven't used their iPads after getting the Nexus 7 (People Such as TWiT hosts).
All of those great reviews, even from Apple pundits, made me beleive this was a great tablet for its price point. So today we finally received the device. The first problem was noticed as soon as we opened the device, the screen was separated and lifted above the silver bezel from the left side, so much that you can hear it flexing when touching it.
The second problem was noticed when the screen was turned on. Right on the center a pixel stuck on red color, so annoying that no matter what backgroun you use, it still shows.
I own a Motorola Xoom 4G/LTE and the Nexus 7 compared to it feels like a toy. I know they are not in the same price range, but the screen on the Xoom has the feel of hard tick glass that the Nexus lacks. I don't see how the back of the Nexus is supposed to feel like leather as mentioned by some reviewers either.
I already did the required steps to exange the device for a new one. I just hope that the replacement comes free of issues, even after reading from so many members over at XDA that it may not be the case.
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I feel you on the screen issues but you aren't giving the device a fair shake until you've actually gotten some seat time with it.
right now, it sounds like you're judging a defective device solely on some cosmetic issues that hopefully will get resolved with the replacement.
play with it some more until the replacement comes and evaluate it based on its size/weight, form factor, JB, speed/responsiveness, functionality, etc.

I want to give an update on my experience with this device. The RMA process was completed and the replacement tablet came without issues.
My Mom has been using it ever since receiving it and I check the device once in a while just to make sure the lift screen problem is not present.
I have to say that after using the replacement unit my opinion on this tablet has changed for good. You get great value for the price and ,being a Nexus device, the assurance to that it will receive updates on time.
My original opinion was based on a defective unit, so I felt the necessity to post this update for any person still reading this section of the forums prior to making their decision to purchase one.
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I love this piece of junk.

I have to admit the build quality is second rate, but I really love this little piece of crap. Yeah, it has that weird cross-axis multitouch problem and the screen keeps wanting to jump out of the bezel (or at least peep over the edge). And I'm told if you turn down the brightness and read the mobi version of 'War and Peace' while standing on your head and humming theme song to Star Trek on the first Wednesday after a full moon with a pomegranate in your pants at some point you'll get some kind of screen flicker, but I haven't seen that yet.
I love the GPS on this thing. I especially love that fact that I could get a device with GPS and no cell radio (which invariably involves a wireless provider and either a contract or a ridiculously high price). I've used multiple Android phones over the last couple of years, and aside from an Evo 3D that worked fairly well, GPS on functionality was horrible to useless.
I'm still debating whether to RMA it for the multitouch problem, because I can see that being an issue with some apps (mostly games). But, considering the price, even if that never gets fixed, so long as it keeps working as well as it is now, I can live with the imperfections.

Same with me I love this little POS. Asus has a long history of making good products with lower build quality. My first laptop was an asus then got the eeepc then transformer tablet and how the nexus. The laptop broke and so did the eeepc, I sold the transformer after a few months so I don't know how well it would of held up but I still think all of them were great value for the price. Out of all of those the nexus 7 is the best in terms of build quality.

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Same with me I love this little POS. Asus has a long history of making good products with lower build quality. My first laptop was an asus then got the eeepc then transformer tablet and how the nexus. The laptop broke and so did the eeepc, I sold the transformer after a few months so I don't know how well it would of held up but I still think all of them were great value for the price. Out of all of those the nexus 7 is the best in terms of build quality.
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Whoa cowboy! Who do You think You are to interfere in such a way? If You have a problem with this thread, report it to mods, but don't act like a cnut.
Back on topic, I guess I'm lucky as my device (third...) is perfect. Gotta admit tho' , that it is one sweet piece of junk.
Gps is great btw. I get fix in seconds inside my place, while desire s barely can get signal even laying just by the window.

I have the multitouch problem too, and honestly I think most people have it but don't realize it. I've already rma'd three times for other problems so I'm not going to even consider it. Unless news starts coming in about new ones being perfect with no occurrences of multitouch issues, then I'll probably be tempted. Right now I'm seeing reports of people exchanging it for the multitouch issues only to get a replacement with the same problem. No thanks. And I love this thing as well, everyone I show it to is amazed at what it can do (nfc Google wallet, face recognition, gps, Google now, flash, etc)
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me too
First tablet for me. Long term Linux user but I can do most things on this and so rarely boot my laptop now. Have a sneaky feeling that Swiftkey on my phone is a little better, but not by much.

Solange82200 said:
I have the multitouch problem too, and honestly I think most people have it but don't realize it. I've already rma'd three times for other problems so I'm not going to even consider it. Unless news starts coming in about new ones being perfect with no occurrences of multitouch issues, then I'll probably be tempted. Right now I'm seeing reports of people exchanging it for the multitouch issues only to get a replacement with the same problem. No thanks. And I love this thing as well, everyone I show it to is amazed at what it can do (nfc Google wallet, face recognition, gps, Google now, flash, etc)
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I have 100's of hours of usage on my N7 now, and I'm sure mine has no "multitouch issues".
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I still haven't seen any issues with multitouch, or screen flickers, or anything else people have complained about. I guess you hear about all the bad things but never about people who have no problems with it.

I really love the tablet too. I just love how fast it is and the streamlined experience I have with Google Apps syncing my mail and reminders. 90% of the things I did on my laptop are not done on my Tablet which is browsing the web, videos, music, and small games.
Since I'm having issues with this one, I think I'll get a refund and try the tablet some other time since I can't deal with these issues right now.

I think its far from a piece of junk but I luv mines too! No screen lift speakers sound good and screen works as advertised. Perfect little companion.
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Owned a TF101 and Galaxy Tab 2 7" and this is by far my far my favorite. The speed is top notch and the 7" screen size is also great. The 1280 resolution kicks the crap out of the 1080 that the Tab2 has. Pretty much the perfect device in my opinion.
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I have currently the HTC desire (in a draw somewhere), galaxy s2-exynos4210 (for alarm clock/ gaming), galaxy s3-exynos4412 (main phone), archos 70it (7inch 1ghz single core tab that I got in 2010 and is in my wardrobe somewhere and haven't seen it in like 6months ) and Samsung galaxy tab 10.1(alarm clock/ pdf viewer).
I also know my s3's cpu is more powerful, the GPU is considerably more powerful, yet I prefer using this less powerful nexus 7. I couldn't think of a better phrase to describe how I feel about this tab, the op by saying "I love this piece of junk" has just got it bang on. Out of all my devices, the n7 is defiantly my favorite at the moment. Although, I have just put a leaked Jelly Been rom (LH7) on my s3 and it is smoother than the n7 but stock android just looks sooooooo! much better looking than touchwiz, so when the s3 gets a stableish CM10 (as in all the elements which make "project butter" work are working properly as it isn't that smooth at the moment and the memory leak is fixed) , my n7 my have some competition. But at the moment, the n7 is just fantastic.

I had the Multitouch issue and screen lifting. I RMAed it and still have those issues. The multitouch isn't causing me any problems for now so I decided to ignore it. I'm watching closely on the screen lift problem (stable, for now). I also decided to enjoy my N7 and accept the fact that Asus can't do better than this at the moment....

You think this is bad quality? You've clearly never seen what China sells for the same price.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJXlFcAaSIk

nerfman100 said:
You think this is bad quality? You've clearly never seen what China sells for the same price.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJXlFcAaSIk
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Lol, that is bad. My niece got a cheap Android tablet last Christmas. I think it was selling for about $150 at the time. It was slow, had a horrible resistive screen and it lasted about a week.
The quality of junk is steadily improving. I always try to keep 20-years-ago me in mind when I'm feeling cheated because the glass on my $250 high-powered hand-held computer (with 24-bit accelerated HD video, super-accurate GPS, compass, accelerometer, gyroscope, wireless broadband internet, touch interface, loads of cheap or free apps and games; which holds every song I've ever owned plus HD movies) barely perceptibly pokes out on one side. 20-years-ago me would be envious as hell and would slap me for being such a spoiled baby.

I love this. Thind and its in my opinion better than the iPad.
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Fair enough, but considering you have to not be touching the tablet in any way other than the screen, not have it charging, not have it on your lap, and not have headphones plugged in, not have it sitting on any conductive surface, and use a multitouch app or such to see the problem, I'm sure there are plenty of people who have it who don't notice. I have hundreds of hours of usage too and had no idea till I saw the thread and recreated the conditions.
People in the thread are asking those that don't have it to post a video so they can be sure it's not standard. One guy didn't have it with two fingers, but was able to recreate it with four. But as soon as I'm sure that new ones are defect free, I'll probably try to get it exchanged,.
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I still haven't seen any issues with multitouch, or screen flickers, or anything else people have complained about. I guess you hear about all the bad things but never about people who have no problems with it.
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Again, before you say that, please read the thread, it's not a problem most would see under regular use. Not saying you don't have it, but I don't want people to think it's a huge obvious problem when it really isn't (like I said, you have to be not touching the tablet in any way other than your fingers, etc. Mine is in a case and even holding it in the case makes it work fine, but there may be some case materials that could make it so the multitouch issues show up as if you weren't there touching the tablet)
Honestly I wish I hadn't read some of these threads., I wouldn't even know these problems existed : )
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SPreston2001 said:
I think its far from a piece of junk but I luv mines too! No screen lift speakers sound good and screen works as advertised. Perfect little companion.
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I honestly have to say I feel the same. I posted in another thread about "Project Butter" being a bunch of P.R. crap and I still feel it has a long way to go but this little thing really is a great device overall.
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Received Nexus.......Selling this week. Nexus VS TAB 2 7 3G

I have been going around and around with these devices. I got the TAB 2 7 P3100 3G from the wife for Christmas after researching both. I could not make up my mind and Christmas was coming quickly so I asked her for the more expensive P3100 (LOL) and I already have a samsung device in the Note 2.
But was still very interested in the Nexus since I have been reading nothing but great things about it. Now this may not be a fair comparison because the TAB is a 3G device that is invisible to my carrier ATT. However I will put that aside and share my impressions after playing with the Nexus solely for the last day and a half.
When I initially put the TAB 2 next to my Note, my jaw dropped at the "washed out" colors on the TAB compared to the Note 2. This lit the Nexus fire and I had to get one now especially since I read and heard nothing but great things about the Nexus screen, When I saw a One day only sale at the Adorama Store on Ebay on New Years day for $229 shipped I jumped at it and ordered an accessories package on Ebay (which has yet to arrive). I immediately put the TAB on Ebay for a high "Buy It Now only price (in the "unlikely" event i would not like the Nexus 7) I am glad now no one bought it after playing with the Nexus over the past couple days.
Initially I loved the all black look of the Nexus with the screen off vs the framed TAB. (small meaningless detail) I also appreciated the slightly narrower form factor and feel of the back cover. The glass was perfect. No build issues here. Looked great although I am not the type who "wears" my phones and devices. I use them.
I immediately unlocked it, flashed a custom recovery and flashed ParanoidAndroid on it. Very nice. I played with it for a day or so. This afternoon I finally I put the TAB side by side with the Nexus and found the Nexus was faster but not all that much. Not enough to say "wow" Certainly not as much as I thought it would be.
What stopped me in my tracks and gave me major pause was when I put the same picture up on the Nexus I initially compared with my Note 2 and had all three side by side. The Note was still much better. No suprise there. But this time the TAB and Nexus were very much the same. The Nexus was not as I had expected. The colors were not nearly as saturated as the Note and in fact almost identical to the TAB on all screen brightness settings In fact I could not tell them apart from a color saturation standpoint. I could however appreciate the denser pixel count on the Nexus when zooming in especially. But Needless to say i expected a much much better screen color quality and much much closer to the Note 2 in color quality. The Note 2 screen is amazing I guess.
USB OTG worked great on both but I don't need it on the TAB with 70GB of usable storage. vs <30GB. I initially had issue with the 64GB card in the TAB which pushed me into the nexus as well early on. But that has been solved. That along with the 3G and phone abilities of the TAB leading me to decide the TAB was the better of the two to keep for my needs.
Initially I thought the choices of ROMs the Nexus development community offered would be a plus but I usually find one ROM and stick with it. I can always get the CM 10 and AKOP ROMS for the TAB along with the TW ROMs.
The front camera on the Nexus is not as good as the rear camera on the TAB although the difference was about as much as the front cameras between the TAB and Nexus. All of them are nothing special. (although I am old enough to remember when 3MB camera was a great addition to a phone!!)
The thing I did like about the Nexus is the USB port but I have loaded up with Samsung "proprietary" USB Cables
and OTG accessories.
All that said the TAN IS A 3g devices and a phone. IF The TAB were the US non 3G model the decision would be much harder. But I would likely lean in its direction because I am used to Samsungs recovery and download modes (although Fastboot took all of 30 seconds to figure out) I expected a whole lot more from the color density and the screen on the Nexus, At the end of the day the additional storage along with the camera possibilities won me over. I am not a gamer so the quad core would likely not be a factor although I did run Need for Speed on the TAb to test it initially and it ran fine.
This is not a knock on the Nexus. It is a great device and for the money the best on paper. but for me anyway the difference were not enough to give up the advantages of the extra storage and free phone and 3G capability, which I could have done anyway using the Note as a hot spot with the Nexus,

Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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korockinout13 said:
Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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Yeah I really didn't pay much attention to the screen specs. I assumed the Nexus would be much better than the TAB likely because of the Pixel density if nothing else. I think if Google/Asus would have put ExtSD capability, headset microphone, and maybe even a better front camera, I would keep the Nexus for the form factor alone.
Once all the 360 case and the rest of the Nexus candy gets here I will throw it all up on Ebay. Thankfully there are AKOP ROMS available for the Samsung.

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Yeah I really didn't pay much attention to the screen specs. I assumed the Nexus would be much better than the TAB likely because of the Pixel density if nothing else. I think if Google/Asus would have put ExtSD capability, headset microphone, and maybe even a better front camera, I would keep the Nexus for the form factor alone.
Once all the 360 case and the rest of the Nexus candy gets here I will throw it all up on Ebay. Thankfully there are AKOP ROMS available for the Samsung.
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Just be lucky you weren't like me.
Bought the Acer iconia a110, was cheap and had similar specs to n7 with hdmi out and sdcard slot.
Played with it for a bit....turned out it wasn't for me. Screen looked terrible, it weighed quite abit more than my 7, brought it back (was an 8gb model) to find the nexus 7 calling my name. I bought the 32gb model with no regrets, great device for the price in my opinion.
Edit : I always see people are complaining about the n7 not having a back camera, seriously a tablet is no device meant for mad photography. Get a nikkon or some **** lol. Front camera is 'OK' Good enough for my Skype calls with my lady :thumbup:
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I wouldn't have minded a back camera on the N7 for Skype. My wife travels a lot and when we Skype I use my phone so I can flip back and forth on the cameras so she can see our baby playing and generally being cute. I could also imagine in the business world it would be useful to show clients whatever in a video conference call. Even if it was a cheap 2.0 megapixel camera, that would have been fine.
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I think the N7 is a great tablet, one of the best and considered the best by some users. You can run almost any app/game without any lag and if you overclock the cpu, it will be even more powerful. First, I wanted to buy a more expensive device, but I looked over N7's performance and price and this was my final choice. I don't regret it!

Lol I hope you are okay with waiting forever for a new update and having your device stop being updated after about a year. Sorry but its just the cold hard truth. We will keep getting updates as son as they are released for quite a while but Samsung has quite a reputation for slacking on updates and dropping devices soon after release.
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Nice review, but you left out one of the most important aspects of any comparison: price. You make it sound like the Tab and the N7 are on equal footing in almost all aspects, but when one costs almost twice what the other costs and you leave that fact out, you are doing a disservice to the readers. On that basis, this is not a fair comparison. I bought the N7 over the Tab 2 because I didn't want or need 3G and I didn't want or need to spend close to $500 for what I wanted a tablet for. When I compared all the specs and credible reviews, the N7 was perfect for my needs and budget. It has not disappointed.

The p3100 runs on your att, which is great. Swap Sims and you're good to go. Since this is the GSM you have a lot more Dev support than the CDMA variant. AOKP is there as well as CM. They have it oc to 1.4 as well. If this suits your needs then run with it, more power to you. I like to stay on the newest builds, that's why I chose what I did. After having many phones by HTC and Samsung and constantly having to choose what I can live without (newest build, working camera, reboots, etc.) I bought a galaxy nexus so I don't constantly wait on manufacturer and carrier hold ups (like my note skyrocket evo, evo 3D) and I am happy. Which is why I went with the nexus 7. When I first saw the HTC jetstream and Samsung note 10.1 I had the itch to buy them. Luckily I didn't, the jetstream is and will forever be on honeycomb and there hasn't been any major Dev work for a year. If you don't need to have the latest and greatest as soon as you can get your paws on it then go with the tab, I would have huge regrets if I chose the one that may not get the next release.
Anyways that's my 2¢ either way you can't go wrong if that is what suits your needs in a 7".
On a side note, you can always eBay your note and tab and get the 3g note 10.1 just food for thought
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QUOTE=AFAinHD;36401781]Lol I hope you are okay with waiting forever for a new update and having your device stop being updated after about a year. Sorry but its just the cold hard truth. We will keep getting updates as son as they are released for quite a while but Samsung has quite a reputation for slacking on updates and dropping devices soon after release.
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You can't be serious. There are nightlies available for the Galaxy Tab as well from CyanogenMod and Milestone. I have never had a device where I'd depended on the manufacturer for updates. Always went with developers. And sometimes the updates are not all that good I would never downloaded the OTA 4.2 update on my Nexus 7 after running it on the tab in having all kinds of Bluetooth issues. The first thing it wanted to do when I fired it up was download that update. I did not selective it. I'll let the new user decide.
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Nice review, but you left out one of the most important aspects of any comparison: price. You make it sound like the Tab and the N7 are on equal footing in almost all aspects, but when one costs almost twice what the other costs and you leave that fact out, you are doing a disservice to the readers. On that basis, this is not a fair comparison. I bought the N7 over the Tab 2 because I didn't want or need 3G and I didn't want or need to spend close to $500 for what I wanted a tablet for. When I compared all the specs and credible reviews, the N7 was perfect for my needs and budget. It has not disappointed.
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I completely agree and I mentioned that but on the face of it the Galaxy Tab 7 without 3g would still be a better choice for me for the reasons I indicated. But I only spent $350 dollars for the Tab 3G. Nowhere near $500. I read a lot of reviews and read this area of X DA, for a long time and decided I needed to have them both in front of me to make a decision. Which took about 2 days.
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The p3100 runs on your att, which is great. Swap Sims and you're good to go. Since this is the GSM you have a lot more Dev support than the CDMA variant. AOKP is there as well as CM. They have it oc to 1.4 as well. If this suits your needs then run with it, more power to you. I like to stay on the newest builds, that's why I chose what I did. After having many phones by HTC and Samsung and constantly having to choose what I can live without (newest build, working camera, reboots, etc.) I bought a galaxy nexus so I don't constantly wait on manufacturer and carrier hold ups (like my note skyrocket evo, evo 3D) and I am happy. Which is why I went with the nexus 7. When I first saw the HTC jetstream and Samsung note 10.1 I had the itch to buy them. Luckily I didn't, the jetstream is and will forever be on honeycomb and there hasn't been any major Dev work for a year. If you don't need to have the latest and greatest as soon as you can get your paws on it then go with the tab, I would have huge regrets if I chose the one that may not get the next release.
Anyways that's my 2¢ either way you can't go wrong if that is what suits your needs in a 7".
On a side note, you can always eBay your note and tab and get the 3g note 10.1 just food for thought
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Oh I thought about that Note, 3G 10.1 but I don't want to carry around a tablet that big I bought one of those for my wife for Christmas as a musician she can use it for the playback tracks or sheet music and replace little Acer she's currently using or at least have a good Backup. I would love to see the Note come in a 6 inch phone version. I wouldn't need both the tablet and phone. In the meantime there's no way I would get rid of the Note 2.
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You can't be serious. There are nightlies available for the Galaxy Tab as well from CyanogenMod and Milestone. I have never had a device where I'd depended on the manufacturer for updates. Always went with developers. And sometimes the updates are not all that good I would never downloaded the OTA 4.2 update on my Nexus 7 after running it on the tab in having all kinds of Bluetooth issues. The first thing it wanted to do when I fired it up was download that update. I did not selective it. I'll let the new user decide.
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that's not what i'm saying. We own a flagship device. Not only do we get the updates instantly, google releases the updates on their website with source so developers can make roms with ease. Its a lot easier to make a ROM for the latest update when google has given you the newest update source code already optimized for your device on a silver platter.
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It sounds like you've already thought of all the different angles, and your mind's made up. Like I said fortunately it's not the CDMA version, my friend bought one and there really isn't any Dev love for that thing. Enjoy your tab 2!
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I used to have the galaxy tab 2 7.0. Had a kernel for it and everything. Unfortunately it was by far the slowest device i had ever used. Slower than my S2 single core HTC incredible and the graphics performance was pretty bad too. CM helped by fixing the graphics drivers and eliminating TW bloat, but it didnt help enough to make me happy with it.
But if you enjoy the Tab2 then go ahead and keep it and enjoy it. Don't let these N7 fanboys phase you
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Metallice said:
I used to have the galaxy tab 2 7.0. Had a kernel for it and everything. Unfortunately it was by far the slowest device i had ever used. Slower than my S2 single core HTC incredible and the graphics performance was pretty bad too. CM helped by fixing the graphics drivers and eliminating TW bloat, but it didnt help enough to make me happy with it.
But if you enjoy the Tab2 then go ahead and keep it and enjoy it. Don't let these N7 fanboys phase you
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I'm a google fanboy, being a fanboy of the nexus is just a side effect. Get it right.
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AFAinHD said:
I'm a google fanboy, being a fanboy of the nexus is just a side effect. Get it right.
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A true Google fanboy is a nexus fanboy.
And a true nexus fanboy is a nexus 7 fanboy
And vice-versa.
So one implies the other assuming "true" fanboyism.
Checkmate.

Metallice said:
A true Google fanboy is a nexus fanboy.
And a true nexus fanboy is a nexus 7 fanboy
And vice-versa.
So one implies the other assuming "true" fanboyism.
Checkmate.
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Just because your a nexus 7 fanboy doesn't mean you are a google fanboy. U can like the tablet and not google.
I win
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AFAinHD said:
Just because your a nexus 7 fanboy doesn't mean you are a google fanboy. U can like the tablet and not google.
I win
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Wouldn't that make you an Asus fanboy
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Did I make a good decision getting the N7?

I recently purchased an N7 but at the MWC I saw ASUS announce the Fonepad.
I would love if I could use my N7 as my every day phone.
The snag is I'm in Canada so it might be hard to obtain one, and I'm not sure how the atom benchmarks against the processor in the current N7.
I've also been considering returning it because I've heard a new version of the n7 is coming out with 1080p and 2GB of ram.

If you always think about what products that will be released in the future, you'll never buy and enjoy anything. The N7 is great. You bought it, now enjoy it.

Well, obviously newer tabs....except cheapo ones, are gonna be better.
If you wanna spend 300....you made a great decision. If you can spend much more, then no you didn't.
I think this is obvious, and why no one is replying.
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Macmee said:
I recently purchased an N7 but at the MWC I saw ASUS announce the Fonepad.
I would love if I could use my N7 as my every day phone.
The snag is I'm in Canada so it might be hard to obtain one, and I'm not sure how the atom benchmarks against the processor in the current N7.
I've also been considering returning it because I've heard a new version of the n7 is coming out with 1080p and 2GB of ram.
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I bought the N7 last week and ended up returning it. I'm trying to transition from an iPad to an Android tablet and found the screen quality on the N7 to be lacking. It's an excellent low-end tablet, but the screen quality is nowhere near the iPad.
Right now I'm going to either
a) Get a Nexus 10, OR
b) Wait until Mid-May to see how the refreshed Nexus 7 will turn out.
I love the size of the N7, and I already have a tablet for the moment, so I'm thinking I may choose option b. I also fear that if I end up purchasing a N10, it'll have some amazing hardware refresh in the next 4-5 months and I'll end up getting ticked off.
Since I already have a tablet of some sort, it's easier for me to wait a bit. If someone needs a tablet NOW, I'd suggest the N10 to them.

fishy007 said:
I bought the N7 last week and ended up returning it. I'm trying to transition from an iPad to an Android tablet and found the screen quality on the N7 to be lacking. It's an excellent low-end tablet, but the screen quality is nowhere near the iPad.
Right now I'm going to either
a) Get a Nexus 10, OR
b) Wait until Mid-May to see how the refreshed Nexus 7 will turn out.
I love the size of the N7, and I already have a tablet for the moment, so I'm thinking I may choose option b. I also fear that if I end up purchasing a N10, it'll have some amazing hardware refresh in the next 4-5 months and I'll end up getting ticked off.
Since I already have a tablet of some sort, it's easier for me to wait a bit. If someone needs a tablet NOW, I'd suggest the N10 to them.
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Low end? Its specs still stand up or beat most newer 7" tablets.
For 7"....not much that's better...the low price is a bonus.
If you're gonna talk 10"....its apples and oranges. They can pack more tech into their bigger size...obviously. Also...some people don't consider 10" cause its too big.
If someone is afraid that something better will come out....that WILL always happen. So better not buy anything....or maybe just rent...so you can upgrade at will!
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Low end? Its specs still stand up or beat most newer 7" tablets.
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Probably a poor choice of phrasing on my part (I'm battling a head cold and can't think straight).
The internals are excellent, but the screen isn't great. The screen is on-par or better-than tablets in that size range, but it's not as good as a larger sized tablet. Since the size isn't a major issue with me, I have the luxury of being able to compare the larger screens to the smaller ones. I don't expect them to cram the resolution of an N10 into an N7 though.
My particular N7 also had very washed-out colors and very bad backlight bleeding at two corners. Hopefully any refresh that is done will fix quality issues like this.

I think the screen is fantastic - no issues here.

I love my N7
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You could always use Google Voice and GrooveIP together. I use mine as a house phone with that combination while I'm at home. A Google Voice account is free and GrooveIP Lite is free on the play store. There is also a paid version but the free Lite version has everything you need. Use the Google Voice app for texting. All free on a Wi-Fi connection.
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The N7 forum is probably the last place you'd ask if you made a good decision. I'd venture a guess that most people would confirm that you made a wonderful decision in purchasing one, regardless of what for.

@op,
A bit of good old fashioned research would have answered all questions you have asked here. .
You have bought a quad core, tegra 3 running device which is still quite powerful. It will do whatever you ask it too generally, and it will do it well. I bought mine for £169.99 if i remember correctly, for the 32gig version. If you take all this into account, then go ahead and use it, you`ll find yourself amazed at how good it is, versus value for money, there is nothing better.
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The N7 forum is probably the last place you'd ask if you made a good decision. I'd venture a guess that most people would confirm that you made a wonderful decision in purchasing one, regardless of what for.
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Sales figures also confirm why it is such a good device...if your expecting snapdragon 4/ 2 gig ram type hardware then obviously stay of the crack. Respectively, nobody can deny that it is fantastic value for money.
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I can't decide on the Nexus 7 or the Galaxy Tab 7.7. Tomorrow I will test drive both.
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As long as you don't need a rear camera I would say get the nexus 7. Absolutely amazing.

love mine
it is the perfect addition to my android family of devices
signed owner of -
droid eris x 2 - for the little ones (3 of them)
droid incredible x2 - for the little ones running PAC rom
droid inc 2 - snazzy red mp3 player running viper inc
rezound - current phone running the amazing ecliptic sense
acer iconia a500 - current civato re-flexx rom - amazing
finished the day on my n7 with 68% battery left after 20 hours off the charger.

Macmee said:
I recently purchased an N7 but at the MWC I saw ASUS announce the Fonepad.
I would love if I could use my N7 as my every day phone.
The snag is I'm in Canada so it might be hard to obtain one, and I'm not sure how the atom benchmarks against the processor in the current N7.
I've also been considering returning it because I've heard a new version of the n7 is coming out with 1080p and 2GB of ram.
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You made a good decision with the information that was available at the time. Don't beat yourself up about it.
I like the direction things are going and I think we will see more 7" tabs with small bezels and voice integration. People get pi$$ed at teh idea of using it as a phone, but like I keep saying you don't have to use it as a phone, its just nice to have additional options.

ynrozturk said:
If you always think about what products that will be released in the future, you'll never buy and enjoy anything. The N7 is great. You bought it, now enjoy it.
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I find the Nexus 7 to be a blast. It's so much fun getting to experiment with other developer's ROMs on the latest form of Android. Of course there are always updates to be released, nothing's perfect. The Nexus 7 is definitely a good choice considering what other Android tablets are floating around in the market.

Nexus 7 vs Samsung
try to check this.
try to contact any webpage from Nexus 7 and the competitor, and you will see the difference.
Nexus 7 always.
This was the test that I did.

baileyjr said:
You made a good decision with the information that was available at the time. Don't beat yourself up about it.
I like the direction things are going and I think we will see more 7" tabs with small bezels and voice integration. People get pi$$ed at teh idea of using it as a phone, but like I keep saying you don't have to use it as a phone, its just nice to have additional options.
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I don't see why people would be angry about using a 7" tablet as a phone. We already have a 6"1 phone out now. Heck, we'll see 7“ phones pretty soon.
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What I'm worried about is that there will be a refresh with 2gb of ram and a better screen.

Then you've answered thread already! Just wait. Or you will be disappointed ....right?
And a 7 inch phone? LOL. No thanks! I have an s2, and since I got my tab ....I kinda wish I had a smaller phone.
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Thinking about buying one

I'm thinking about buying anexus7 . do you guys think it is still a good buy? Should I wait? I like the idea of a nexus 10 but the dual core CPU compared to a quad to me does not seem right. Suggestions?
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Quad core does not 'always' mean better than dual core. If I had a chance (the money) to buy a nexus 10, I definitely would.
In my opinion android isn't even optimized properly for quad core, its not needed.... My nexus 7 VERY rarely needs to put use to more than two cores. The two cores of the nexus 10 are powerful ones
Not saying the nexus 7 isn't still worth buying. If I didn't have a nexus 7, I'd still end up buying one its a great device and does everything I need easily, while having a smaller screen size. (Which is perfect for me)
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Another should I? LOL
Well...to add something more....
The n7 is awesome. Period. If you want more awesome....spend way more, or wait for new devices.
Honestly ....people keep asking this, and its up to you. I bought one at Christmas cause its cheap and arguably the best 7" out there.
Budget, desperation and size preferences make this an apples to oranges discussion.
Not being a Dink, but seriously ....read the many threads that exist with the same question. Might help you.
People have stated their opinions on this in lots of similar threads.
Good luck, if you get one....enjoy!
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I got my nexus about 3weeks ago. I do love it. But i got my so the samsung galaxy tab 2. It has things likw better. It is dual core vs quad. Bur i dknt feel any performance difference. It has sd card slot. 2 cameras. Both are better than the one camera on nexus.
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The n7 is awesome. Period. If you want more awesome....spend way more, or wait for new devices.
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^ this. already into march, a case could certainly be made for holding off a few months until new devices are unveiled, like the much anticipated successor to the nexus 7 (this would be my course of action if i didn't already have an n7). but if you need a tablet now, you can't really beat throwing down $200 for this beast.

I disagree on the N10. Power wise, the Dual core snapdragon is faster... but since it is pushing that insane resolution, it is about the same speed, or laggier, then the N7.
This is why I think uber high resolutions are a waste. Useless number game with no benefit. Just a waste of resources.
The N10 has some nice features like HDMI out but 7" and price is right on the N7. The N7 has a super high DPI. Don't upgrade something that doesn't need upgrading.
This is why the Transformer 300 is faster then the Prime, different res.
I'd buy the N7 again... and I did. We have 4 of them. And I just bought 30 for a job.
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For me the N7 hits my sweet spot in terms of performance, prize and size! :good:

I'm in the same boat. I know I definitely want a Nexus tablet to replace my crappy PlayBook but I think I'm going to hold off to see what is unveiled at Google I/O before making a decision. If a successor is released I will buy that instead.

I was thinking about selling my TF700+Dock for a Nexus 7, but then again the Nexus 7 Successor should be coming out later this year. May just wait for that.
Will miss the Transformer though because of the keyboard dock (extra batt life) and it propping the screen up for viewing. Just couldn't stand the laggy IO of the TF700 though. I was reading a few other threads on here about the current Nexus 7's IO being a bottleneck, but I'm sure it's nowhere as bad as the TF700s.

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For me the N7 hits my sweet spot in terms of performance, prize and size! :good:
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I agree! I love the size of this. It's basically pocketable, even with the Sharkk keyboard case I bought. I haven't touched my iPad in three weeks since I bought it.

What's with all these "Should I buy?" threads?
Look. If you want to buy it, buy it. If you don't, then don't. How are we supposed to know your needs and what you'll be using it for? Watch some videos (there are around 3 million on YouTube) for the N7 and make the choice yourself. It's just a $200 tablet, not an Aston Martin DBS.

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What's with all these "Should I buy?" threads?
Look. If you want to buy it, buy it. If you don't, then don't. How are we supposed to know your needs and what you'll be using it for? Watch some videos (there are around 3 million on YouTube) for the N7 and make the choice yourself. It's just a $200 tablet, not an Aston Martin DBS.
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What he said... I didn't like the sgtab2 cuz the screen was fuzzy and wasnt sharp and clean like the n7
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Hi, after owning the asus TF201 for over a year now, I also wanted to change to the nexus 7 3g.
I had several problems with the TF201 (laggy wifi, laggy bluetooth, no gps, bad overall performance). During the last year I started hating asus for this design flaw.
Now i noticed, that the N7 is also produced by asus. Should I really try another product of this company?
However, yesterday I wanted to set my order.
Fortunately I found some posts about a stuttering when streaming the audio by bluetooth and additional wifi usage. Some have this stuttering, some others report that their wifi-speed drops near zero.
For me that all sounds like the same strange problems I had with the TF201 (always thought the only reason for my problems was the aluminium-case of the TF201).
Now I'm really dissapointed. The benefit of the N7 3G would be the mobility and the additional connectivity.
I also know that the nexus is a really cheap device. Nevertheless the main-functions should work.
What do you think is the reason for this bluetooth audio stuttering? Software based or really a crappy hardware (I trust asus wouldn't mind).

It all depends. I don't remember reading about a lot of people having Bluetooth problems on a stock device. Those of us who have it are the ones usually on custom ROM's. For example I'm on Paranoid Android 3+ and it's known to have Bluetooth issues. There is also a fix for it but I didn't bother as I never use Bluetooth.
Bottom line is, most people don't have these problems. What you're reading here is a great majority of people who only have problems. That's why they're here, because they're looking around for help. Millions of users I'm sure are perfectly happy with their N7's.