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No haptic feedback? Wow.

I was in Staples yesterday about to purchase a 16 gig model...the not having capacitive buttons and the lack of a camera on the back are issues for me...but issues I was going to try to overlook.
Then I start playing with the display model for a couple of minutes and came to learn that there is no haptic feedback while typing...or anywhere for that matter. This is a deal breaker for me. The only tablet I can recall ever using that didn't have keyboard vibration is the iPad. Every other Android tab I've used has it.
Quite a let down.

ya that does really suck, all the other asus pads have it

I'm a little disappointed by this but i'm getting used to it. It's a better typing experience than my ipad.

i'm surprised they took it out too, but you do get used to it after a while...

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Quite a let down.
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It seems your expections are not inline with reality. Clearly to meet the price at which the Nexus is sold at, some things had to go. Personally I don't use a tablet to take pictures when I'm out, so I don't give a crap about rear facing camera.
Google and Asus have done a solid job of identifying what can go, what they can skrimp on, and what they shouldn't skrimp on, and a s a result, the Nexus FEELS and PERFORMS like a premium tablet without a premium price...
If you want a tablet with all the premium bells and whistles, you will have to pay a premium price. That is the harsh reality.

I would have been shocked if there was haptic feedback.
200. 200. Seriously people. My phone retailed for 700 and the nexus 7 will probably kick its butt when it arrives.
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The OG Asus Transformer didn't have haptic feedback. It's a nice luxury don't get me wrong, but no a nessesity IMO.
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The iPad is $400 with no haptic feedback. Maybe Google thought we don't need it.

Didn't have haptic feedback on my OG Transformer, GTab 2 7", or this. Not shocked in the least, nor do I care. One less point of failure.

You won't find anything better near this price point.

CrazyPeter said:
It seems your expections are not inline with reality. Clearly to meet the price at which the Nexus is sold at, some things had to go. Personally I don't use a tablet to take pictures when I'm out, so I don't give a crap about rear facing camera.
Google and Asus have done a solid job of identifying what can go, what they can skrimp on, and what they shouldn't skrimp on, and a s a result, the Nexus FEELS and PERFORMS like a premium tablet without a premium price...
If you want a tablet with all the premium bells and whistles, you will have to pay a premium price. That is the harsh reality.
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That is exactly how I feel. My dad takes pictures with his TF201 and I make fun of him for holding up a tablet to take pictures when he has an excellent Canon camera..
The tablet also does not vibrate when a new message comes in, or a notification gets pushed.
Thats fine, as I normally turn that off to save on power... this isn't a problem with most games as any good vibration feedback can be regained through a Playstation SIXAXIS controller.

Just a few more weeks and these threads will stop.
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I never thought about haptic feedback on a tablet, though I think the Iconia A100 had it. I always turned it off, along with the typing noises.

First thing I do when I get a new phone is find out how to turn "haptic feedback" aka annoying vibrating battery wasting rumble pack, OFF!
The fact that it doesnt have haptop feedback at all, is probably the best news for me I have read about this device today :victory:

taintphuck said:
I was in Staples yesterday about to purchase a 16 gig model...the not having capacitive buttons and the lack of a camera on the back are issues for me...but issues I was going to try to overlook.
Then I start playing with the display model for a couple of minutes and came to learn that there is no haptic feedback while typing...or anywhere for that matter. This is a deal breaker for me. The only tablet I can recall ever using that didn't have keyboard vibration is the iPad. Every other Android tab I've used has it.
Quite a let down.
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Your sample size must be quite small then. A lot of tablets(including the high end ones like the ipad you mentioned) do not have haptic feedback. You expectations are pretty high for the type of device you were looking at. And besides, lack of softkeys is a design choice not a missing feature. Google has been pushing the buttonless android device for a long time.

I don't have one yet but was a surprise to me to know that it does not have a vibration motor, anyway I believe that the only use on which I could miss that is while playing games, don't you?
other than that I think is ok?
The back camera, well, I really think that was a mistake due to the size of this tablet, I can imagine 10' tablets without the rear camera but this one?

First thing I do with any device I buy is disable haptic feedback
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I'm with a few others, first thing I do is disable typing sounds and haptic feedback.

I never understood the point of a rear facing camera on a tablet anyway. Way to cumbersome for practical use. I've only used the one on my A500 once or twice just playing around. A phone ok, but not a tablet. As far as the haptic feedback, I didn't know the Nexus didn't have it. Not that it matters. It's still an awesome device!! No regrets!

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the not having capacitive buttons.
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Clearly, you have no idea how onscreen buttons are a thousand times better looking, more durable, and happen to be a huge component of 4.X. However, given your trollish name and your idiotic demeanor, I believe that I have been had.
Good day sirrah!
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My Nexus 7 Experience : (

After some time playing with the Nexus 7 I felt compelled to write my impressions. This device was ordered for my mom to use for web browsing and email.
I read a lot of reviews from several tech sites as well as some forums before deciding the Nexus 7 was the right device for her.
The reviews around the tech sites were almost all positives regarding the quality and price on this device, on the other hand, the reviews from several forum members where not that great.
People where reporting issues ranging from screen separation, blown speakers and death pixels.
Tech sites mentioned the build quality of the device and the almost leather like feeling of the back surface as good points.
Almost all of them concluded that this was the tablet to get at this price point. Some of them even went as far as saying that they haven't used their iPads after getting the Nexus 7 (People Such as TWiT hosts).
All of those great reviews, even from Apple pundits, made me beleive this was a great tablet for its price point. So today we finally received the device. The first problem was noticed as soon as we opened the device, the screen was separated and lifted above the silver bezel from the left side, so much that you can hear it flexing when touching it.
The second problem was noticed when the screen was turned on. Right on the center a pixel stuck on red color, so annoying that no matter what backgroun you use, it still shows.
I own a Motorola Xoom 4G/LTE and the Nexus 7 compared to it feels like a toy. I know they are not in the same price range, but the screen on the Xoom has the feel of hard tick glass that the Nexus lacks. I don't see how the back of the Nexus is supposed to feel like leather as mentioned by some reviewers either.
I already did the required steps to exange the device for a new one. I just hope that the replacement comes free of issues, even after reading from so many members over at XDA that it may not be the case.
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I want to give an update on my experience with this device. The RMA process was completed and the replacement tablet came without issues.
My Mom has been using it ever since receiving it and I check the device once in a while just to make sure the lift screen problem is not present.
I have to say that after using the replacement unit my opinion on this tablet has changed for good. You get great value for the price and ,being a Nexus device, the assurance to that it will receive updates on time.
My original opinion was based on a defective unit, so I felt the necessity to post this update for any person still reading this section of the forums prior to making their decision to purchase one.
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What a bummer dude, did you order it through the Play Store?

yes I did ordered from the play store.
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Honestly, even with screen flicker, this is ten times better than my iPad 2. I'm putting my iPad up on eBay tomorrow night and I'm proud to do it. I'm using a ZAGGKeys Flex Keyboard to type this post, I LOVE my N7. If you want to check out my review it's over in the accessories section of the forum.
I really hope you give the N7 another chance. This tab kicks @$$, literally.
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Lare2 said:
yes I did ordered from the play store.
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When did you place the order?

Nxxx said:
Honestly, even with screen flicker, this is ten times better than my iPad 2. I'm putting my iPad up on eBay tomorrow night and I'm proud to do it. I'm using a ZAGGKeys Flex Keyboard to type this post, I LOVE my N7. If you want to check out my review it's over in the accessories section of the forum.
I really hope you give the N7 another chance. This tab kicks @$$, literally.
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I totally love the device. the size makes more sense to me than my 10.1 inches Xoom. I just want an issue free device.
After reading so many posts about people receiving a flawless device makes me think the one I received was a lemon.
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When did you place the order?
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Saturday 21 and arrived Wednesday 25
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Sorry that happened to you but JOIN THE CLUB. Yes we all know Google and Asus screwed the pooch on the launch of the n7. No need to start a crying thread. And your complain about the quality? Dude its a 200 dollar device. Its quality for that price! So stop whining and bae will us ALL who had a detective device. This tablet blows your Xoom out the water.
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Feel sorry for you
Hi mate, I feel sorry for you that your Nexus 7 had those problems. I received mine yesterday (16 GB version) and it is perfectly fine. Hope you'll get the replacement soon.
I'm happy with the device so far and my Transformer Prime will surely be jealous. Nexus 7 is small and light enough to carry around and to read in bed, what I can't do with the Prime because of its size and weight. 7" is my thing and definitely not the 10".
The GPS is very good. After a few seconds 11 satellites were found (note: clear sky today in London!). Overall the OS is more responsive than the Prime. So far there is for example no message "Web browser is not responding" that I sometimes get on Prime since the latest update.
The only annoying thing with Nexus 7 is that the home screen is only in portrait mode. But I'm going to root it and I can say goodbye to that annoyance.

feelinfroggy23 said:
Sorry that happened to you but JOIN THE CLUB. Yes we all know Google and Asus screwed the pooch on the launch of the n7. No need to start a crying thread. And your complain about the quality? Dude its a 200 dollar device. Its quality for that price! So stop whining and bae will us ALL who had a detective device. This tablet blows your Xoom out the water.
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I'll wait until the replacement comes to see. My Xoom has 64GB Total storage and 4G LTE connectivity, so for me, the N7 can't fulfill my tablet needs yet. But recognize that my mom seems to be the perfect candidate for it with its 8GB and size.
If my replacement comes without issues, I'll pull the trigger on a second one with 16GB cause my wife liked the form factor. I've been a Google supporter for a long time, heck I paid 800+ on day one for and unlocked Xoom to dive early on this android tablet adventure so I'm totally on their camp, but I expect at least a working device.
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I think you should have gone with an iPad unless your Mom is one of the exceptions and real tech savvy and computer oriented. I hope this doesn't read as me being negative, I understand being upset and I'm not trying to come off as rude at all.
Don't get me wrong I love my nexus 7 and I love Android especially on a quad core tablet. I also have the Asus transformer prime and its one of my favorite devices ever. But when it comes to buying for parents, if looking for something amazing out of the box and simple and easy, I don't think the first batch of first gen nexus 7 tablets is the best choice in most cases.
I know you already bought yours and everything but since you wanted to inform others I just thought I would share my experiences that I've learned along the way.
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CharliesTheMan said:
I think you should have gone with an iPad unless your Mom is one of the exceptions and real tech savvy and computer oriented. I hope this doesn't read as me being negative, I understand being upset and I'm not trying to come off as rude at all.
Don't get me wrong I love my nexus 7 and I love Android especially on a quad core tablet. I also have the Asus transformer prime and its one of my favorite devices ever. But when it comes to buying for parents, if looking for something amazing out of the box and simple and easy, I don't think the first batch of first gen nexus 7 tablets is the best choice in most cases.
I know you already bought yours and everything but since you wanted to inform others I just thought I would share my experiences that I've learned along the way.
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She is pretty much OS agnostic, she can find its way around on the two computer they have at home, even though one is running Slitaz Linux, she understand the basic concepts to be able to figure it out where the browser, email and games are no matter the OS.
I took it to Best Buy to see the iPads and she played with it already, but she also played with two tablets 7 inches in size from Samsung and Acer, and decided that was a better form factor.
She basically wanted something to use out of the house for some games she plays and on the house while not on the PC. The problem here is with the device being defective rather than hard for her to use.
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Shame you received a device with hardware defects - no user should ever except it as such, get it replaced and enjoy a perfect device.
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Lare2 said:
After some time playing with the Nexus 7 I felt compelled to write my impressions. This device was ordered for my mom to use for web browsing and email.
I read a lot of reviews from several tech sites as well as some forums before deciding the Nexus 7 was the right device for her.
The reviews around the tech sites were almost all positives regarding the quality and price on this device, on the other hand, the reviews from several forum members where not that great.
People where reporting issues ranging from screen separation, blown speakers and death pixels.
Tech sites mentioned the build quality of the device and the almost leather like feeling of the back surface as good points.
Almost all of them concluded that this was the tablet to get at this price point. Some of them even went as far as saying that they haven't used their iPads after getting the Nexus 7 (People Such as TWiT hosts).
All of those great reviews, even from Apple pundits, made me beleive this was a great tablet for its price point. So today we finally received the device. The first problem was noticed as soon as we opened the device, the screen was separated and lifted above the silver bezel from the left side, so much that you can hear it flexing when touching it.
The second problem was noticed when the screen was turned on. Right on the center a pixel stuck on red color, so annoying that no matter what backgroun you use, it still shows.
I own a Motorola Xoom 4G/LTE and the Nexus 7 compared to it feels like a toy. I know they are not in the same price range, but the screen on the Xoom has the feel of hard tick glass that the Nexus lacks. I don't see how the back of the Nexus is supposed to feel like leather as mentioned by some reviewers either.
I already did the required steps to exange the device for a new one. I just hope that the replacement comes free of issues, even after reading from so many members over at XDA that it may not be the case.
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I feel you on the screen issues but you aren't giving the device a fair shake until you've actually gotten some seat time with it.
right now, it sounds like you're judging a defective device solely on some cosmetic issues that hopefully will get resolved with the replacement.
play with it some more until the replacement comes and evaluate it based on its size/weight, form factor, JB, speed/responsiveness, functionality, etc.

I want to give an update on my experience with this device. The RMA process was completed and the replacement tablet came without issues.
My Mom has been using it ever since receiving it and I check the device once in a while just to make sure the lift screen problem is not present.
I have to say that after using the replacement unit my opinion on this tablet has changed for good. You get great value for the price and ,being a Nexus device, the assurance to that it will receive updates on time.
My original opinion was based on a defective unit, so I felt the necessity to post this update for any person still reading this section of the forums prior to making their decision to purchase one.
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Thoughts and impressions of your N7 so far.

Hi guys, I will be getting my Nexus 7 16GB tomorrow.Very excited! I will be using it mostly for gaming, web surfing, and maybe some Netflix/Movies. Just wanted to get some feedback on some of your experiences so far with the device. And your overall impression of the device. Thanks guys.
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Love it. Buy it. Enjoy it.
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rhodes588 said:
Love it. Buy it. Enjoy it.
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Quoted for great justice. I feel the same. Best tablet imo.

Its an amazing device for the price. Well worth it. Came from a 10 inch HP Touchpad and much prefer the 7 inch form factor now.
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It's a really great device. Storage is it's only weakness. The16gb version should be your only option, though it's not enough either. But I love it. Feels like it's easily worth double the price.

I have only owned a capacitive tablet in the past with Android Eclair on it, that was complete balls and turned me completely off tablets.
The N7 is amazing, I can fit it in my pocket still, its powerful, the screen is crystal clear and responsive, amazing device that has restored my view of tablets in general.
Enjoy!

I've had my 8gb for about 12 hours and absolutely love it, I had a 16gb Asus Transformer up until yesterday and this is so much better. I agree with the previous poster regarding form factor, the Nexus is so much more comfortable to hold for long periods of time.
Jelly bean + Tegra 3 = Amazing performance.
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Love it, easily the best tablet I have owned.
I was unsure of the 7in formfactor, but am now convinced.
I also know 7 people that have ordered them off the back of playing with mine, and several iPad3's up for sale as a result.

Nexus 7 was my first step into the Tablet world and i have to say coming from a Galaxy Note, i loved every bit of it. Its build quality is just awesome which makes it feel premium in the hand. It is packing some serious specs with a quad core CPU and 12 core oGPU and the software is very brilliantly optimised for the device. So everything has been great so far, however the only downside to the tablet is: lack of storage (not expandable) and the lack of a rear facing camera. Overall it is a great device and for the price point nothing even comes close to it. However dont overrate it becasue although it gives you the bang for the buck, all the hype is causing people to expect too much from it even with such a low pricepoint.

Thank you guys for all of your input. I just picked up the 16GB version from my local OfficeMax. It was their last one. And they only received 2 of them. I'm just about to open this bad boy up. Very excited!
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I was curious too, with all the threads about defects and issues. It's scared me away...... I want a tablet, and would love to have one for college.....although I'm not sure where it would fit in since I've never owned a tablet.
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TheJanitor07 said:
Thank you guys for all of your input. I just picked up the 16GB version from my local OfficeMax. It was their last one. And they only received 2 of them. I'm just about to open this bad boy up. Very excited!
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Let us know you're thoughts. How much did it come out to?

It's a great tablet. Unfortunately I got two Nexus 7s with defective screens, so I'm not too happy at the moment.

Slap-Yourself :) said:
I was curious too, with all the threads about defects and issues. It's scared me away...... I want a tablet, and would love to have one for college.....although I'm not sure where it would fit in since I've never owned a tablet.
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this forum only makes up 0.1% of the people with Nexus 7's.. don't let these threads stop you from buying it.. all devices will have their problems.. even Apple products have issues..
But enough about that.. its many great apps in the market that makes great for college usage.. we got great note taking apps like "Evernote" "Springpad" the size is perfect to fit in any bag

I love my 16 GB nexus 7..u said u will be mainly gaming on the tab my gripe is that many game publishers havent optimized their games for tegra 3..dark knight returns and nova 3 for example are extremely choppy in comparison to how they run on other platforms....its not really the hardware its the game devs not optimizing code...I mean what good is a 12 core GPU if its barely being utilized...I have a tfp also and its the same issue with choppiness in certain games that should absolutely not be present.
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I just got mine today. Ordered it July 19 "2-day shipping" LOL. Anyway device arrived intact. Screen appears to be well stuck onto device. Lol
It is beautiful. Can't find a defect anywhere so far. The only thing that sucks is I have not been able to install Whatsapp! It says my device is not compatible with this version. Everything else flawless though.

Only had mine a few hours. No issues that I've noticed. Better than I thought it was going to be, a nice size to use, less bulky than iPad but much more usable than a smartphone. Much faster than the Asus TF101 and Jelly Bean is far better than Honeycomb.

I'm loving mine! Had it for a couple days now and it is fantastic to type on! It gets a little difficult in landscape but that's fine with me. The only annoyances as of now is where the nav bar is when you go landscape. I saw that on the Galaxy nexus in landscape the bar goes to the side with the device. On this tablet, it stays in the middle making it difficult to touch. This device isn't all that good in portrait landscape besides for watching stuff. It really made me fall in love with stock Android all over again. Shame my phone uses sense

Using my nexus as I type this. And I must say this thing is amazing. Blazing fast. Beautiful display. Very comfortable to hold in the hand and has a premium feel to it. I haven't tried any gaming yet and will check to inform you guys how that goes. The only thing I have noticed is while watching the transformer movie that was preloaded on the device, it skips and lags just a bit every now and then. Other than that I have no complaints so far. I will post some more thoughts after more use. Thanks for your advice guys.
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I really like my N7. I've had it for a couple weeks now and no complaints. The iPad has taken a backseat.
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TheJanitor07 said:
The only thing I have noticed is while watching the transformer movie that was preloaded on the device, it skips and lags just a bit every now and then. Other than that I have no complaints so far. I will post some more thoughts after more use. Thanks for your advice guys.
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When I watched Transformers, it was not preloaded - it was streamed from the Cloud. It did pause - occasionally - for the streaming to catch up.
None of your freebies come preloaded, although you can download them.
Not sure which is more of a waste - Transformers or the ads posing as magazines.
Gaming is fantastic...

You Think Google Will Choose Asus Again?

I don't think so, this whole defect thing definitely left a stain on the Nexus brand.
When you think Nexus, you think perfect.
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I can almost guarantee there were more devices that were perfect versus those that had issues. Plus Googles time frame for start to finish was a little ridiculous.
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No chance in hell they use crappy Asus again. I'd put money on it.
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Maybe they'll change up the way they release a new product through the Google Play store. The whole bit with people being able to get them through retail channels faster than the preorders was a disaster. I hope they stay with Asus, if they can learn from their mistakes. I'm sure it's a pretty steep learning curve for the manufacturing and QC guys for any new product line.

Yes. I think most of ASUS problems are with it's initial batch of tablets. After about a month things seem to smooth out. So I'll probably do my best to hold out a month next time. But that's so hard for me because I'm impatient too.

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I don't think so, this whole defect thing definitely left a stain on the Nexus brand.
When you think Nexus, you think perfect.
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There's threads like yours in the galaxy nexus forums saying the exact same thing but about Samsung and how google should choose another company. All these companies will have their own problems. The nexus like is not perfect and not meant to be, its where google test its new android builds.

I'm really surprised to hear about all the quality issues with the Nexus, it's pretty disappointing . I have the OG Transformer and I LOVE it, it's been amazing.

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I can almost guarantee there were more devices that were perfect versus those that had issues. Plus Googles time frame for start to finish was a little ridiculous.
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I agree with the time frame being ridiculous, but I don't know about most devices being perfect considering how many people are going through multiple replacements with defects. It'd be different if the first replacements everyone got were perfect, but I see a lot of people settling on units with relatively minor defects because they fear that their 4th replacement will be worse than their 3rd. I love my Nexus 7, but even I'm settling on the minor defects that it has (minor screen separation and multitouch issue) because I'm afraid that a replacement would be much worse.

No matter which OEM Google uses in the future, there will always be unhappy people. My device is rock solid and defect free.
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Classic mistake... Listening to a vocal few instead of noting the happy silence of the overwhelming majority of satisfied customers.
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You know, I really can't say. We know of EVERY little problem the N7 has because we come to this forum. But I think Google has had and expects stuff like this, with any company.
I've had 2 Asus Android tablets, and both have problems. The N7 has very slight screen lift ( no big deal to me) and that's it. My Transformer Prime had shot GPS, crappy WiFi, and buggy software....BUT, I love what they do. The Transformer line is one of a kind beast, and the N7 is even better. First 10" Tegra 3 tablet with keyboard dock style, First 7" Tegra 3 tablet with JB...for $199 to top it off So I think I am willing to take chances to stay on the newest/ hottest gear...and Asus has that gear. So I'd say Google should give Asus another shot if they can fill their needs.

To be fair, screen Flickr is because of the tegra 3 (it is an issue with teg3 HTC ONE X's; screen color problems = defects from the screen manufacturers (LG, SHARP, SONY,not Asus)... Same issues in OneX/XL/S's with varying hue and color temp.
Screen edge coming up or slightly moving.... Because it's not glued in, making it easier to service... Pop off the backing and tighten the damn screws.
Some people have the slightest issues and return items blowing the issue excessively out of proportion... Some of these people are also the most vocal on forums.
Ultimately the returns/exchanges are less than 1% of total units sold and happens to every device. Let's remember when the Xoom first came out... Anyone? Lol

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I don't think so, this whole defect thing
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Errm, what "defect thing"...
Or are you one of these unfortunate people that have no concept of perspective and context?

Bonekeep said:
Classic mistake... Listening to a vocal few instead of noting the happy silence of the overwhelming majority of satisfied customers.
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Ding ding ding.
And even for those with defects, they aren't exploding, they aren't catching on fire. They just didn't use enough glue on one single side. Not a big deal.

As a rather funny note, all the ASUS preorder hate seems irrelevant in Germany where the device isn't even available yet at all.
Sometimes, Google is way too USA.

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There's threads like yours in the galaxy nexus forums saying the exact same thing but about Samsung and how google should choose another company. All these companies will have their own problems. The nexus like is not perfect and not meant to be, its where google test its new android builds.
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i agree.
my vote is for yes. if google releases a nexus10, i bet asus will build it

When the Galaxy Nexus was released when it connected to 2G networks the volume would automatically decrease, do you think Google have scratched Samsung off their list too?

Why not? Asus are a wonderful manufacturer.
My Nexus 7 is perfect and my Samsung Galaxy Nexus is, too. I was worried about my products after reading these forums and I was constantly having to check for defects just to make myself feel better and then I realised how silly that is. Headaches over nothing, because a small minority are incredibly vocal!
I am always behind Asus after using their motherboards/monitors and enjoying my previous TF101 tablet.
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4 months to production is unheard of in this market. They gave us something cheap, fast, and good, so I am hoping Asus becomes the 'go to' manufacture for nexus tablet's.
Looking forward to November's nexus devices, and hope Asus is putting together a bigger tablet with a keyboard (2560x1600)
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I hope this spurs Google to start using their Motorola facilities to produce devices with nothing but 'nexus' etched into the back.
These OEMs with their disgraceful reskins, false promises of support, and either shoddy or overpriced hardware. They deserve nothing more.
It would also settle the patent war.
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When the Galaxy Nexus was released when it connected to 2G networks the volume would automatically decrease, do you think Google have scratched Samsung off their list too?
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Sounds like a software thing.

HP Slate7 - Nexus 7 competitor?

Just saw this pop up on Engadget:
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/slate-7/landing.html?jumpid=ex_r10104_go_slate
Decent specs, camera, microSD slot and the possibility of HDMI out. Probably too late to the game, but I might have opted for it over the Nexus 7 had it been available last August. While I like the fast Android updates, I feel like Nexus owners are sometimes used as Guinea pigs to beta test the newest bug-filled features.

Eh low resolution screen is kinda a deal breaker, anything lower than 720p is a pain to use.
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ED2O9 said:
Just saw this pop up on Engadget:
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/slate-7/landing.html?jumpid=ex_r10104_go_slate
Decent specs, camera, microSD slot and the possibility of HDMI out. Probably too late to the game, but I might have opted for it over the Nexus 7 had it been available last August. While I like the fast Android updates, I feel like Nexus owners are sometimes used as Guinea pigs to beta test the newest bug-filled features.
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That link doesn't have the most detailed info. I found; http://www.gsmarena.com/hp_slate_7-5317.php
Honestly disappointing screen kills it right there. The cam is better, but really I don't think 3.5mp means anything compared to a 1.2 both were good10 years ago.

ED2O9 said:
Just saw this pop up on Engadget:
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/slate-7/landing.html?jumpid=ex_r10104_go_slate
Decent specs, camera, microSD slot and the possibility of HDMI out. Probably too late to the game, but I might have opted for it over the Nexus 7 had it been available last August. While I like the fast Android updates, I feel like Nexus owners are sometimes used as Guinea pigs to beta test the newest bug-filled features.
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I think the slate looks good and is more of an alternative or maybe a compromise between some of the very cheap tablets and the nexus 7.
For me the smaller battery would be the killer. HP quote 2AH where as the N7 has a 4.3AH battery with 3 hours more use available. A four hour flight to Lanzarote would be marginal with the Slate by the time you take time at the airport into account, it will be used to keep my 2 year old entertained.
The expandable storage isn't an issue for me as I have the 32GB version. Not interested in holding a tablet up to take picture, I have a phone and a camera for that. HDMI; had that on my Nokia N8 and used it once to try it, I have used dlna to stream to the telly though.
To me it looks like someone at HP has bought a N7, looks at the pros (cheap, light,size) and cons (fixed storage, no back camera) and used it as a starting point and tried to beat it. Good luck to them but I think it will suit a slightly different market to the N7.

ED2O9 said:
Just saw this pop up on Engadget:
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/slate-7/landing.html?jumpid=ex_r10104_go_slate
Decent specs, camera, microSD slot and the possibility of HDMI out. Probably too late to the game, but I might have opted for it over the Nexus 7 had it been available last August. While I like the fast Android updates, I feel like Nexus owners are sometimes used as Guinea pigs to beta test the newest bug-filled features.
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It looks good... but I think you're probably right about it being too late to the game. If HP can market/advertise this as aggressively as Google has with the N7, then it might stand a chance. Google are repostioning themselves as 'content providers' - music, books, magazines - and the 'cheap-as-chips' N7 is a loss leading gateway, somewhat similar to Amazons Kindle.
Hewlett Packard are a tech company first and foremost, and don't have a similar repository of IP content that they can push to make this 'slate' a compelling purchase. In this digital age, people buy their tech based on what they can watch, read or listen to.
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Still, having said all that... it's an intriguing device... I like the microSD card slot (something sorely lacking on the N7).
If it has an easily unlockable bootloader (I don't know what HP's track record is on that), then I might consider getting one.
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No GPS either.
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I had it with HP a long time ago. Laptops dropping dead all over the place for no apparent or discoverable reason. And then tech support being worse that shoving a cactus in my rear end. So no. HP is just. No.
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Screen aucks no GPS thick and ugly silver plus HP logo on there automatically kills it. The HP brand is no longer a symbol of cutting edge got to have technology. It is a symbol of a relic technology company that is holding on to its last strong hold which is server technology and enterprise.

I think it's a good timing. with N7 2.0 coming soon, ppl will consider this one as a cheap alternative to the N7 2.0 instead of the old N7.

rather be a Guinea pig and get more regular updates than to be stuck with something that will 99% of the time will never see the latest is update. plus don't have to worry about all the bloat that other companies seem to love to fill phones/tablets up with. Google has also shown even with older nexus devices they have been kept updated to atleast ICS where as other devices you could forget about it. I am sure when keylime pie comes out the nexus 7/10 will see it. how many tablets the same age or newer will see that?
like the genie off Aladdin said often imitated but never duplicated.
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I don't feel the HP Slate is anywhere near a competitor for the N7.

HP Slate 7 Android Tablet Review
Uhhh.. The Slate 7 is a stinker.
This is a quick unboxing and review of HP's latest attempt at an Android tablet.
I can't say a whole lot of good things about this tablet. I was sorely disappointed in the overall build quality. The screen was almost rubbery to the touch and it appeared to be warped and separated on the edges. The screen was odd and had almost a glazed look to it. The back camera is decent, but the front camera is not even adequate for video conferencing, let alone the occasional "selfie". The specs are sub par for the price, in my opinion. I wouldn't spend more than $99 US for a tablet like this. I have seen off brand, generic tablets that are build better. I suppose the one saving grace is the stock Jelly Bean 4.1.1. For what you would spend on this tablet ($170 US), you should jump on a Nexus 7 or a Kindle Fire HD.
This thing is starting to make the HP Touchpad look like a great success.
These are my opinions, of course.

not a bad tablet but hp customer support is pretty crap. That and the fact that there laptops are gone really bad lately.

I think if they priced it at $99 you'd have a real alternative for people don't wanna spend $200 for a quality tab. But its only $30 less than the nexus 7, with considerably weaker specs. Who wouldn't just cough up the extra cash?
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It beats the nexus 7 in all benshmarks exept gl
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It's better to look at the Fonepad.
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I was considering getting one of these, but then all the specs fell below what the Nexus 7 had in store for me so I went with the Nexus.
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Doesn't even compete just look at the specs.
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It beats the nexus 7 in all benshmarks exept gl
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Look at the wild benchmark differences on exact same devices!! Depends on a lot what you score. So benchmarks are basically meaningless. Anyone can sacrifice battery and smoothness to put up a good score!
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No GPS either.
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Got one today. It appears it does have a GPS. It pinned me right down to my house in Google Maps.
I will say this, it doesn't seem laggy at alll. The problem is that some apps (Instagram, SiriusXM, Foursquare, UPS Mobile, Jetblue, and others) are marked incompatible in the Play Store. Apps like Twitter, Facebook, Angry Birds Friends, etc. work fine.
I'm not sure what the delimiting factor is, but it may have something to do with the resolution and how the apps were built.