I was in Staples yesterday about to purchase a 16 gig model...the not having capacitive buttons and the lack of a camera on the back are issues for me...but issues I was going to try to overlook.
Then I start playing with the display model for a couple of minutes and came to learn that there is no haptic feedback while typing...or anywhere for that matter. This is a deal breaker for me. The only tablet I can recall ever using that didn't have keyboard vibration is the iPad. Every other Android tab I've used has it.
Quite a let down.
ya that does really suck, all the other asus pads have it
I'm a little disappointed by this but i'm getting used to it. It's a better typing experience than my ipad.
i'm surprised they took it out too, but you do get used to it after a while...
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Quite a let down.
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It seems your expections are not inline with reality. Clearly to meet the price at which the Nexus is sold at, some things had to go. Personally I don't use a tablet to take pictures when I'm out, so I don't give a crap about rear facing camera.
Google and Asus have done a solid job of identifying what can go, what they can skrimp on, and what they shouldn't skrimp on, and a s a result, the Nexus FEELS and PERFORMS like a premium tablet without a premium price...
If you want a tablet with all the premium bells and whistles, you will have to pay a premium price. That is the harsh reality.
I would have been shocked if there was haptic feedback.
200. 200. Seriously people. My phone retailed for 700 and the nexus 7 will probably kick its butt when it arrives.
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The OG Asus Transformer didn't have haptic feedback. It's a nice luxury don't get me wrong, but no a nessesity IMO.
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The iPad is $400 with no haptic feedback. Maybe Google thought we don't need it.
Didn't have haptic feedback on my OG Transformer, GTab 2 7", or this. Not shocked in the least, nor do I care. One less point of failure.
You won't find anything better near this price point.
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It seems your expections are not inline with reality. Clearly to meet the price at which the Nexus is sold at, some things had to go. Personally I don't use a tablet to take pictures when I'm out, so I don't give a crap about rear facing camera.
Google and Asus have done a solid job of identifying what can go, what they can skrimp on, and what they shouldn't skrimp on, and a s a result, the Nexus FEELS and PERFORMS like a premium tablet without a premium price...
If you want a tablet with all the premium bells and whistles, you will have to pay a premium price. That is the harsh reality.
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That is exactly how I feel. My dad takes pictures with his TF201 and I make fun of him for holding up a tablet to take pictures when he has an excellent Canon camera..
The tablet also does not vibrate when a new message comes in, or a notification gets pushed.
Thats fine, as I normally turn that off to save on power... this isn't a problem with most games as any good vibration feedback can be regained through a Playstation SIXAXIS controller.
Just a few more weeks and these threads will stop.
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I never thought about haptic feedback on a tablet, though I think the Iconia A100 had it. I always turned it off, along with the typing noises.
First thing I do when I get a new phone is find out how to turn "haptic feedback" aka annoying vibrating battery wasting rumble pack, OFF!
The fact that it doesnt have haptop feedback at all, is probably the best news for me I have read about this device today :victory:
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I was in Staples yesterday about to purchase a 16 gig model...the not having capacitive buttons and the lack of a camera on the back are issues for me...but issues I was going to try to overlook.
Then I start playing with the display model for a couple of minutes and came to learn that there is no haptic feedback while typing...or anywhere for that matter. This is a deal breaker for me. The only tablet I can recall ever using that didn't have keyboard vibration is the iPad. Every other Android tab I've used has it.
Quite a let down.
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Your sample size must be quite small then. A lot of tablets(including the high end ones like the ipad you mentioned) do not have haptic feedback. You expectations are pretty high for the type of device you were looking at. And besides, lack of softkeys is a design choice not a missing feature. Google has been pushing the buttonless android device for a long time.
I don't have one yet but was a surprise to me to know that it does not have a vibration motor, anyway I believe that the only use on which I could miss that is while playing games, don't you?
other than that I think is ok?
The back camera, well, I really think that was a mistake due to the size of this tablet, I can imagine 10' tablets without the rear camera but this one?
First thing I do with any device I buy is disable haptic feedback
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I'm with a few others, first thing I do is disable typing sounds and haptic feedback.
I never understood the point of a rear facing camera on a tablet anyway. Way to cumbersome for practical use. I've only used the one on my A500 once or twice just playing around. A phone ok, but not a tablet. As far as the haptic feedback, I didn't know the Nexus didn't have it. Not that it matters. It's still an awesome device!! No regrets!
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the not having capacitive buttons.
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Clearly, you have no idea how onscreen buttons are a thousand times better looking, more durable, and happen to be a huge component of 4.X. However, given your trollish name and your idiotic demeanor, I believe that I have been had.
Good day sirrah!
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After some time playing with the Nexus 7 I felt compelled to write my impressions. This device was ordered for my mom to use for web browsing and email.
I read a lot of reviews from several tech sites as well as some forums before deciding the Nexus 7 was the right device for her.
The reviews around the tech sites were almost all positives regarding the quality and price on this device, on the other hand, the reviews from several forum members where not that great.
People where reporting issues ranging from screen separation, blown speakers and death pixels.
Tech sites mentioned the build quality of the device and the almost leather like feeling of the back surface as good points.
Almost all of them concluded that this was the tablet to get at this price point. Some of them even went as far as saying that they haven't used their iPads after getting the Nexus 7 (People Such as TWiT hosts).
All of those great reviews, even from Apple pundits, made me beleive this was a great tablet for its price point. So today we finally received the device. The first problem was noticed as soon as we opened the device, the screen was separated and lifted above the silver bezel from the left side, so much that you can hear it flexing when touching it.
The second problem was noticed when the screen was turned on. Right on the center a pixel stuck on red color, so annoying that no matter what backgroun you use, it still shows.
I own a Motorola Xoom 4G/LTE and the Nexus 7 compared to it feels like a toy. I know they are not in the same price range, but the screen on the Xoom has the feel of hard tick glass that the Nexus lacks. I don't see how the back of the Nexus is supposed to feel like leather as mentioned by some reviewers either.
I already did the required steps to exange the device for a new one. I just hope that the replacement comes free of issues, even after reading from so many members over at XDA that it may not be the case.
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I want to give an update on my experience with this device. The RMA process was completed and the replacement tablet came without issues.
My Mom has been using it ever since receiving it and I check the device once in a while just to make sure the lift screen problem is not present.
I have to say that after using the replacement unit my opinion on this tablet has changed for good. You get great value for the price and ,being a Nexus device, the assurance to that it will receive updates on time.
My original opinion was based on a defective unit, so I felt the necessity to post this update for any person still reading this section of the forums prior to making their decision to purchase one.
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What a bummer dude, did you order it through the Play Store?
yes I did ordered from the play store.
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Honestly, even with screen flicker, this is ten times better than my iPad 2. I'm putting my iPad up on eBay tomorrow night and I'm proud to do it. I'm using a ZAGGKeys Flex Keyboard to type this post, I LOVE my N7. If you want to check out my review it's over in the accessories section of the forum.
I really hope you give the N7 another chance. This tab kicks @$$, literally.
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yes I did ordered from the play store.
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When did you place the order?
Nxxx said:
Honestly, even with screen flicker, this is ten times better than my iPad 2. I'm putting my iPad up on eBay tomorrow night and I'm proud to do it. I'm using a ZAGGKeys Flex Keyboard to type this post, I LOVE my N7. If you want to check out my review it's over in the accessories section of the forum.
I really hope you give the N7 another chance. This tab kicks @$$, literally.
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I totally love the device. the size makes more sense to me than my 10.1 inches Xoom. I just want an issue free device.
After reading so many posts about people receiving a flawless device makes me think the one I received was a lemon.
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When did you place the order?
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Saturday 21 and arrived Wednesday 25
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Sorry that happened to you but JOIN THE CLUB. Yes we all know Google and Asus screwed the pooch on the launch of the n7. No need to start a crying thread. And your complain about the quality? Dude its a 200 dollar device. Its quality for that price! So stop whining and bae will us ALL who had a detective device. This tablet blows your Xoom out the water.
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Hi mate, I feel sorry for you that your Nexus 7 had those problems. I received mine yesterday (16 GB version) and it is perfectly fine. Hope you'll get the replacement soon.
I'm happy with the device so far and my Transformer Prime will surely be jealous. Nexus 7 is small and light enough to carry around and to read in bed, what I can't do with the Prime because of its size and weight. 7" is my thing and definitely not the 10".
The GPS is very good. After a few seconds 11 satellites were found (note: clear sky today in London!). Overall the OS is more responsive than the Prime. So far there is for example no message "Web browser is not responding" that I sometimes get on Prime since the latest update.
The only annoying thing with Nexus 7 is that the home screen is only in portrait mode. But I'm going to root it and I can say goodbye to that annoyance.
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Sorry that happened to you but JOIN THE CLUB. Yes we all know Google and Asus screwed the pooch on the launch of the n7. No need to start a crying thread. And your complain about the quality? Dude its a 200 dollar device. Its quality for that price! So stop whining and bae will us ALL who had a detective device. This tablet blows your Xoom out the water.
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I'll wait until the replacement comes to see. My Xoom has 64GB Total storage and 4G LTE connectivity, so for me, the N7 can't fulfill my tablet needs yet. But recognize that my mom seems to be the perfect candidate for it with its 8GB and size.
If my replacement comes without issues, I'll pull the trigger on a second one with 16GB cause my wife liked the form factor. I've been a Google supporter for a long time, heck I paid 800+ on day one for and unlocked Xoom to dive early on this android tablet adventure so I'm totally on their camp, but I expect at least a working device.
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I think you should have gone with an iPad unless your Mom is one of the exceptions and real tech savvy and computer oriented. I hope this doesn't read as me being negative, I understand being upset and I'm not trying to come off as rude at all.
Don't get me wrong I love my nexus 7 and I love Android especially on a quad core tablet. I also have the Asus transformer prime and its one of my favorite devices ever. But when it comes to buying for parents, if looking for something amazing out of the box and simple and easy, I don't think the first batch of first gen nexus 7 tablets is the best choice in most cases.
I know you already bought yours and everything but since you wanted to inform others I just thought I would share my experiences that I've learned along the way.
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I think you should have gone with an iPad unless your Mom is one of the exceptions and real tech savvy and computer oriented. I hope this doesn't read as me being negative, I understand being upset and I'm not trying to come off as rude at all.
Don't get me wrong I love my nexus 7 and I love Android especially on a quad core tablet. I also have the Asus transformer prime and its one of my favorite devices ever. But when it comes to buying for parents, if looking for something amazing out of the box and simple and easy, I don't think the first batch of first gen nexus 7 tablets is the best choice in most cases.
I know you already bought yours and everything but since you wanted to inform others I just thought I would share my experiences that I've learned along the way.
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She is pretty much OS agnostic, she can find its way around on the two computer they have at home, even though one is running Slitaz Linux, she understand the basic concepts to be able to figure it out where the browser, email and games are no matter the OS.
I took it to Best Buy to see the iPads and she played with it already, but she also played with two tablets 7 inches in size from Samsung and Acer, and decided that was a better form factor.
She basically wanted something to use out of the house for some games she plays and on the house while not on the PC. The problem here is with the device being defective rather than hard for her to use.
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Shame you received a device with hardware defects - no user should ever except it as such, get it replaced and enjoy a perfect device.
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After some time playing with the Nexus 7 I felt compelled to write my impressions. This device was ordered for my mom to use for web browsing and email.
I read a lot of reviews from several tech sites as well as some forums before deciding the Nexus 7 was the right device for her.
The reviews around the tech sites were almost all positives regarding the quality and price on this device, on the other hand, the reviews from several forum members where not that great.
People where reporting issues ranging from screen separation, blown speakers and death pixels.
Tech sites mentioned the build quality of the device and the almost leather like feeling of the back surface as good points.
Almost all of them concluded that this was the tablet to get at this price point. Some of them even went as far as saying that they haven't used their iPads after getting the Nexus 7 (People Such as TWiT hosts).
All of those great reviews, even from Apple pundits, made me beleive this was a great tablet for its price point. So today we finally received the device. The first problem was noticed as soon as we opened the device, the screen was separated and lifted above the silver bezel from the left side, so much that you can hear it flexing when touching it.
The second problem was noticed when the screen was turned on. Right on the center a pixel stuck on red color, so annoying that no matter what backgroun you use, it still shows.
I own a Motorola Xoom 4G/LTE and the Nexus 7 compared to it feels like a toy. I know they are not in the same price range, but the screen on the Xoom has the feel of hard tick glass that the Nexus lacks. I don't see how the back of the Nexus is supposed to feel like leather as mentioned by some reviewers either.
I already did the required steps to exange the device for a new one. I just hope that the replacement comes free of issues, even after reading from so many members over at XDA that it may not be the case.
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I feel you on the screen issues but you aren't giving the device a fair shake until you've actually gotten some seat time with it.
right now, it sounds like you're judging a defective device solely on some cosmetic issues that hopefully will get resolved with the replacement.
play with it some more until the replacement comes and evaluate it based on its size/weight, form factor, JB, speed/responsiveness, functionality, etc.
I want to give an update on my experience with this device. The RMA process was completed and the replacement tablet came without issues.
My Mom has been using it ever since receiving it and I check the device once in a while just to make sure the lift screen problem is not present.
I have to say that after using the replacement unit my opinion on this tablet has changed for good. You get great value for the price and ,being a Nexus device, the assurance to that it will receive updates on time.
My original opinion was based on a defective unit, so I felt the necessity to post this update for any person still reading this section of the forums prior to making their decision to purchase one.
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I don't think so, this whole defect thing definitely left a stain on the Nexus brand.
When you think Nexus, you think perfect.
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I can almost guarantee there were more devices that were perfect versus those that had issues. Plus Googles time frame for start to finish was a little ridiculous.
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No chance in hell they use crappy Asus again. I'd put money on it.
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Maybe they'll change up the way they release a new product through the Google Play store. The whole bit with people being able to get them through retail channels faster than the preorders was a disaster. I hope they stay with Asus, if they can learn from their mistakes. I'm sure it's a pretty steep learning curve for the manufacturing and QC guys for any new product line.
Yes. I think most of ASUS problems are with it's initial batch of tablets. After about a month things seem to smooth out. So I'll probably do my best to hold out a month next time. But that's so hard for me because I'm impatient too.
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I don't think so, this whole defect thing definitely left a stain on the Nexus brand.
When you think Nexus, you think perfect.
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There's threads like yours in the galaxy nexus forums saying the exact same thing but about Samsung and how google should choose another company. All these companies will have their own problems. The nexus like is not perfect and not meant to be, its where google test its new android builds.
I'm really surprised to hear about all the quality issues with the Nexus, it's pretty disappointing . I have the OG Transformer and I LOVE it, it's been amazing.
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I can almost guarantee there were more devices that were perfect versus those that had issues. Plus Googles time frame for start to finish was a little ridiculous.
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I agree with the time frame being ridiculous, but I don't know about most devices being perfect considering how many people are going through multiple replacements with defects. It'd be different if the first replacements everyone got were perfect, but I see a lot of people settling on units with relatively minor defects because they fear that their 4th replacement will be worse than their 3rd. I love my Nexus 7, but even I'm settling on the minor defects that it has (minor screen separation and multitouch issue) because I'm afraid that a replacement would be much worse.
No matter which OEM Google uses in the future, there will always be unhappy people. My device is rock solid and defect free.
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Classic mistake... Listening to a vocal few instead of noting the happy silence of the overwhelming majority of satisfied customers.
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You know, I really can't say. We know of EVERY little problem the N7 has because we come to this forum. But I think Google has had and expects stuff like this, with any company.
I've had 2 Asus Android tablets, and both have problems. The N7 has very slight screen lift ( no big deal to me) and that's it. My Transformer Prime had shot GPS, crappy WiFi, and buggy software....BUT, I love what they do. The Transformer line is one of a kind beast, and the N7 is even better. First 10" Tegra 3 tablet with keyboard dock style, First 7" Tegra 3 tablet with JB...for $199 to top it off So I think I am willing to take chances to stay on the newest/ hottest gear...and Asus has that gear. So I'd say Google should give Asus another shot if they can fill their needs.
To be fair, screen Flickr is because of the tegra 3 (it is an issue with teg3 HTC ONE X's; screen color problems = defects from the screen manufacturers (LG, SHARP, SONY,not Asus)... Same issues in OneX/XL/S's with varying hue and color temp.
Screen edge coming up or slightly moving.... Because it's not glued in, making it easier to service... Pop off the backing and tighten the damn screws.
Some people have the slightest issues and return items blowing the issue excessively out of proportion... Some of these people are also the most vocal on forums.
Ultimately the returns/exchanges are less than 1% of total units sold and happens to every device. Let's remember when the Xoom first came out... Anyone? Lol
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I don't think so, this whole defect thing
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Errm, what "defect thing"...
Or are you one of these unfortunate people that have no concept of perspective and context?
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Classic mistake... Listening to a vocal few instead of noting the happy silence of the overwhelming majority of satisfied customers.
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Ding ding ding.
And even for those with defects, they aren't exploding, they aren't catching on fire. They just didn't use enough glue on one single side. Not a big deal.
As a rather funny note, all the ASUS preorder hate seems irrelevant in Germany where the device isn't even available yet at all.
Sometimes, Google is way too USA.
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There's threads like yours in the galaxy nexus forums saying the exact same thing but about Samsung and how google should choose another company. All these companies will have their own problems. The nexus like is not perfect and not meant to be, its where google test its new android builds.
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i agree.
my vote is for yes. if google releases a nexus10, i bet asus will build it
When the Galaxy Nexus was released when it connected to 2G networks the volume would automatically decrease, do you think Google have scratched Samsung off their list too?
Why not? Asus are a wonderful manufacturer.
My Nexus 7 is perfect and my Samsung Galaxy Nexus is, too. I was worried about my products after reading these forums and I was constantly having to check for defects just to make myself feel better and then I realised how silly that is. Headaches over nothing, because a small minority are incredibly vocal!
I am always behind Asus after using their motherboards/monitors and enjoying my previous TF101 tablet.
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4 months to production is unheard of in this market. They gave us something cheap, fast, and good, so I am hoping Asus becomes the 'go to' manufacture for nexus tablet's.
Looking forward to November's nexus devices, and hope Asus is putting together a bigger tablet with a keyboard (2560x1600)
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I hope this spurs Google to start using their Motorola facilities to produce devices with nothing but 'nexus' etched into the back.
These OEMs with their disgraceful reskins, false promises of support, and either shoddy or overpriced hardware. They deserve nothing more.
It would also settle the patent war.
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When the Galaxy Nexus was released when it connected to 2G networks the volume would automatically decrease, do you think Google have scratched Samsung off their list too?
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Sounds like a software thing.
I have to admit the build quality is second rate, but I really love this little piece of crap. Yeah, it has that weird cross-axis multitouch problem and the screen keeps wanting to jump out of the bezel (or at least peep over the edge). And I'm told if you turn down the brightness and read the mobi version of 'War and Peace' while standing on your head and humming theme song to Star Trek on the first Wednesday after a full moon with a pomegranate in your pants at some point you'll get some kind of screen flicker, but I haven't seen that yet.
I love the GPS on this thing. I especially love that fact that I could get a device with GPS and no cell radio (which invariably involves a wireless provider and either a contract or a ridiculously high price). I've used multiple Android phones over the last couple of years, and aside from an Evo 3D that worked fairly well, GPS on functionality was horrible to useless.
I'm still debating whether to RMA it for the multitouch problem, because I can see that being an issue with some apps (mostly games). But, considering the price, even if that never gets fixed, so long as it keeps working as well as it is now, I can live with the imperfections.
Same with me I love this little POS. Asus has a long history of making good products with lower build quality. My first laptop was an asus then got the eeepc then transformer tablet and how the nexus. The laptop broke and so did the eeepc, I sold the transformer after a few months so I don't know how well it would of held up but I still think all of them were great value for the price. Out of all of those the nexus 7 is the best in terms of build quality.
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Same with me I love this little POS. Asus has a long history of making good products with lower build quality. My first laptop was an asus then got the eeepc then transformer tablet and how the nexus. The laptop broke and so did the eeepc, I sold the transformer after a few months so I don't know how well it would of held up but I still think all of them were great value for the price. Out of all of those the nexus 7 is the best in terms of build quality.
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Whoa cowboy! Who do You think You are to interfere in such a way? If You have a problem with this thread, report it to mods, but don't act like a cnut.
Back on topic, I guess I'm lucky as my device (third...) is perfect. Gotta admit tho' , that it is one sweet piece of junk.
Gps is great btw. I get fix in seconds inside my place, while desire s barely can get signal even laying just by the window.
I have the multitouch problem too, and honestly I think most people have it but don't realize it. I've already rma'd three times for other problems so I'm not going to even consider it. Unless news starts coming in about new ones being perfect with no occurrences of multitouch issues, then I'll probably be tempted. Right now I'm seeing reports of people exchanging it for the multitouch issues only to get a replacement with the same problem. No thanks. And I love this thing as well, everyone I show it to is amazed at what it can do (nfc Google wallet, face recognition, gps, Google now, flash, etc)
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me too
First tablet for me. Long term Linux user but I can do most things on this and so rarely boot my laptop now. Have a sneaky feeling that Swiftkey on my phone is a little better, but not by much.
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I have the multitouch problem too, and honestly I think most people have it but don't realize it. I've already rma'd three times for other problems so I'm not going to even consider it. Unless news starts coming in about new ones being perfect with no occurrences of multitouch issues, then I'll probably be tempted. Right now I'm seeing reports of people exchanging it for the multitouch issues only to get a replacement with the same problem. No thanks. And I love this thing as well, everyone I show it to is amazed at what it can do (nfc Google wallet, face recognition, gps, Google now, flash, etc)
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I have 100's of hours of usage on my N7 now, and I'm sure mine has no "multitouch issues".
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I still haven't seen any issues with multitouch, or screen flickers, or anything else people have complained about. I guess you hear about all the bad things but never about people who have no problems with it.
I really love the tablet too. I just love how fast it is and the streamlined experience I have with Google Apps syncing my mail and reminders. 90% of the things I did on my laptop are not done on my Tablet which is browsing the web, videos, music, and small games.
Since I'm having issues with this one, I think I'll get a refund and try the tablet some other time since I can't deal with these issues right now.
I think its far from a piece of junk but I luv mines too! No screen lift speakers sound good and screen works as advertised. Perfect little companion.
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Owned a TF101 and Galaxy Tab 2 7" and this is by far my far my favorite. The speed is top notch and the 7" screen size is also great. The 1280 resolution kicks the crap out of the 1080 that the Tab2 has. Pretty much the perfect device in my opinion.
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I have currently the HTC desire (in a draw somewhere), galaxy s2-exynos4210 (for alarm clock/ gaming), galaxy s3-exynos4412 (main phone), archos 70it (7inch 1ghz single core tab that I got in 2010 and is in my wardrobe somewhere and haven't seen it in like 6months ) and Samsung galaxy tab 10.1(alarm clock/ pdf viewer).
I also know my s3's cpu is more powerful, the GPU is considerably more powerful, yet I prefer using this less powerful nexus 7. I couldn't think of a better phrase to describe how I feel about this tab, the op by saying "I love this piece of junk" has just got it bang on. Out of all my devices, the n7 is defiantly my favorite at the moment. Although, I have just put a leaked Jelly Been rom (LH7) on my s3 and it is smoother than the n7 but stock android just looks sooooooo! much better looking than touchwiz, so when the s3 gets a stableish CM10 (as in all the elements which make "project butter" work are working properly as it isn't that smooth at the moment and the memory leak is fixed) , my n7 my have some competition. But at the moment, the n7 is just fantastic.
I had the Multitouch issue and screen lifting. I RMAed it and still have those issues. The multitouch isn't causing me any problems for now so I decided to ignore it. I'm watching closely on the screen lift problem (stable, for now). I also decided to enjoy my N7 and accept the fact that Asus can't do better than this at the moment....
You think this is bad quality? You've clearly never seen what China sells for the same price.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJXlFcAaSIk
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You think this is bad quality? You've clearly never seen what China sells for the same price.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJXlFcAaSIk
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Lol, that is bad. My niece got a cheap Android tablet last Christmas. I think it was selling for about $150 at the time. It was slow, had a horrible resistive screen and it lasted about a week.
The quality of junk is steadily improving. I always try to keep 20-years-ago me in mind when I'm feeling cheated because the glass on my $250 high-powered hand-held computer (with 24-bit accelerated HD video, super-accurate GPS, compass, accelerometer, gyroscope, wireless broadband internet, touch interface, loads of cheap or free apps and games; which holds every song I've ever owned plus HD movies) barely perceptibly pokes out on one side. 20-years-ago me would be envious as hell and would slap me for being such a spoiled baby.
I love this. Thind and its in my opinion better than the iPad.
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Fair enough, but considering you have to not be touching the tablet in any way other than the screen, not have it charging, not have it on your lap, and not have headphones plugged in, not have it sitting on any conductive surface, and use a multitouch app or such to see the problem, I'm sure there are plenty of people who have it who don't notice. I have hundreds of hours of usage too and had no idea till I saw the thread and recreated the conditions.
People in the thread are asking those that don't have it to post a video so they can be sure it's not standard. One guy didn't have it with two fingers, but was able to recreate it with four. But as soon as I'm sure that new ones are defect free, I'll probably try to get it exchanged,.
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DoctorComrade said:
I still haven't seen any issues with multitouch, or screen flickers, or anything else people have complained about. I guess you hear about all the bad things but never about people who have no problems with it.
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Again, before you say that, please read the thread, it's not a problem most would see under regular use. Not saying you don't have it, but I don't want people to think it's a huge obvious problem when it really isn't (like I said, you have to be not touching the tablet in any way other than your fingers, etc. Mine is in a case and even holding it in the case makes it work fine, but there may be some case materials that could make it so the multitouch issues show up as if you weren't there touching the tablet)
Honestly I wish I hadn't read some of these threads., I wouldn't even know these problems existed : )
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I think its far from a piece of junk but I luv mines too! No screen lift speakers sound good and screen works as advertised. Perfect little companion.
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I honestly have to say I feel the same. I posted in another thread about "Project Butter" being a bunch of P.R. crap and I still feel it has a long way to go but this little thing really is a great device overall.
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This phone is a cracker!
The phones I have had before have come close to perfection. Last one being the s3 but never quite made the cut.
Everything just works perfect!
I've had the nexus 4 since Saturday and have yet to find a flaw.
User friendly is is an understatement.
Its like they have thought of everything.
All those folks over at the s3 forums laughing at us for selling up and getting the nexus will be swallowing their words after a few mins playing with this badboy.
Even the screen feels amazing. It just slides through your fingers.
Nicest phone I have ever felt and used.
So as you can tell, I am very happy
Peace
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This phone is a cracker!
The phones I have had before have come close to perfection. Last one being the s3 but never quite made the cut.
Everything just works perfect!
I've had the nexus 4 since Saturday and have yet to find a flaw.
User friendly is is an understatement.
Its like they have thought of everything.
All those folks over at the s3 forums laughing at us for selling up and getting the nexus will be swallowing their words after a few mins playing with this badboy.
Even the screen feels amazing. It just slides through your fingers.
Nicest phone I have ever felt and used.
So as you can tell, I am very happy
Peace
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Couldn't agree more.
This makes me want it even more, NAO! Hehe, mine is in transit with DHL, and I'm F5'ing the Tracking page all day long hopefully I'll receive it before the weekend!
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This makes me want it even more, NAO! Hehe, mine is in transit with DHL, and I'm F5'ing the Tracking page all day long hopefully I'll receive it before the weekend!
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I'm telling you man you'll love it
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thanks for this post. I feel the same way.
I'm coming from a situation where I'm with tmobile already, I have spotify and netflix and I don't need a removable battery I have chargers everywhere I go if needed (work, home, car), and I get about 20mbps down from HSPA+ which is on par with verizon's LTE when you're talking about real-world use. So for me the phone is perfect.
On top of that the phone is fast as hell, extremely responsive, the IPS panel is really good, I love the design on the back, its a lot classier then I though it was going to be. Holding the phone, the weight just feels right. Coming from an SGS 2 I love the notification light and the on-screen buttons really make it feel like an advanced phone.
Look I understand the phone is not for everybody and theres some compromises some people just arent willing to make. That being said, its a ****ing shame when tech hypochondriacs get a device then immediately hop on xda and make countless threads about how their phone sucks because there's a 1/4th of a mm gap between the micro sd card slot and the phone bezel.
I honestly couldn't be happier with the phone. Its just a beautiful device in all aspects, and coupled with a SANE price I don't think you can go wrong with it.
This is good to hear as mine's will be here this week.
I was one of the lucky first to get the 16GB Nexus 4. It's one of the best feeling Nexus. I think the Nexus one felt the best in hand, but it is too small now. I say now because at it's time, it was the perfect size.
I was never one to use the swipe keyboard for typing, but the Nexus 4 screen is so smooth that it makes gesture typing pleasurable. I now swipe all the time.
As for durability, I dropped my phone on a hard surface twice already because of how slippery the back is, but it held up just fine without any scratches. Multiple drops on carpet because my pillow is now a slippery surface.
As for software, I been using Android since the G1 launch, so since android 1.3. Back in the days when we had developers like Jesusfreak making rooted roms and custom recoveries for us. By far, the Nexus 4 makes android 4.2 the most liquid smooth version of android I have ever used, bar none! That 2GB of ram is just awesome. Apps stay in memory much longer. For my Galaxy Nexus, pages would have to reload when I switch back to Chrome browser, but not the Nexus 4. It's still there, ready and waiting for me.
I don't regret my purchase for this phone at all. Only nexus I had regretful feelings for was the Nexus S. Why? well that's another story.
The phone just does what it told! Doesny even argue wi ye!
shenery said:
The phone just does what it told! Doesny even argue wi ye!
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Everything but autocorrect.
snowglyder said:
Everything but autocorrect.
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Perfectly correct Scottish...
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Swype beta works amazingly well on this smooth screen
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TonyHoyle said:
Perfectly correct Scottish...
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I see it now.
I'm glad to see this thread. Just finally got an order in this afternoon. Now to wait...
Had mine since the Friday of the week it was released & I have to say I love the feel of the device, The notification light is a godsend coming from the S2. I'm now getting used to the sensitivity of the screen, My S2 you could just hover over the screen & it'd click things. This needs a bit of a harder tap but nothing major.
I thought I'd miss the screen of the S2, It still impressed me up till the point of getting rid of it. Those colours! Even if they are over saturated looked fantastic when watching videos & playing games. But the sharpness of the N4 screen makes it brilliant to be honest. The colours are fine too now i'm used to it.
I echo you're statements OP I love this device.
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I was one of the lucky first to get the 16GB Nexus 4. It's one of the best feeling Nexus. I think the Nexus one felt the best in hand, but it is too small now. I say now because at it's time, it was the perfect size.
I was never one to use the swipe keyboard for typing, but the Nexus 4 screen is so smooth that it makes gesture typing pleasurable. I now swipe all the time.
As for durability, I dropped my phone on a hard surface twice already because of how slippery the back is, but it held up just fine without any scratches. Multiple drops on carpet because my pillow is now a slippery surface.
As for software, I been using Android since the G1 launch, so since android 1.3. Back in the days when we had developers like Jesusfreak making rooted roms and custom recoveries for us. By far, the Nexus 4 makes android 4.2 the most liquid smooth version of android I have ever used, bar none! That 2GB of ram is just awesome. Apps stay in memory much longer. For my Galaxy Nexus, pages would have to reload when I switch back to Chrome browser, but not the Nexus 4. It's still there, ready and waiting for me.
I don't regret my purchase for this phone at all. Only nexus I had regretful feelings for was the Nexus S. Why? well that's another story.
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Everything but autocorrect.
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Wan eh the first hings ye huv tae dae when yur Scottish is take that basturt autocorrect aff
I'm thinking about buying anexus7 . do you guys think it is still a good buy? Should I wait? I like the idea of a nexus 10 but the dual core CPU compared to a quad to me does not seem right. Suggestions?
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Quad core does not 'always' mean better than dual core. If I had a chance (the money) to buy a nexus 10, I definitely would.
In my opinion android isn't even optimized properly for quad core, its not needed.... My nexus 7 VERY rarely needs to put use to more than two cores. The two cores of the nexus 10 are powerful ones
Not saying the nexus 7 isn't still worth buying. If I didn't have a nexus 7, I'd still end up buying one its a great device and does everything I need easily, while having a smaller screen size. (Which is perfect for me)
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Another should I? LOL
Well...to add something more....
The n7 is awesome. Period. If you want more awesome....spend way more, or wait for new devices.
Honestly ....people keep asking this, and its up to you. I bought one at Christmas cause its cheap and arguably the best 7" out there.
Budget, desperation and size preferences make this an apples to oranges discussion.
Not being a Dink, but seriously ....read the many threads that exist with the same question. Might help you.
People have stated their opinions on this in lots of similar threads.
Good luck, if you get one....enjoy!
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I got my nexus about 3weeks ago. I do love it. But i got my so the samsung galaxy tab 2. It has things likw better. It is dual core vs quad. Bur i dknt feel any performance difference. It has sd card slot. 2 cameras. Both are better than the one camera on nexus.
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The n7 is awesome. Period. If you want more awesome....spend way more, or wait for new devices.
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^ this. already into march, a case could certainly be made for holding off a few months until new devices are unveiled, like the much anticipated successor to the nexus 7 (this would be my course of action if i didn't already have an n7). but if you need a tablet now, you can't really beat throwing down $200 for this beast.
I disagree on the N10. Power wise, the Dual core snapdragon is faster... but since it is pushing that insane resolution, it is about the same speed, or laggier, then the N7.
This is why I think uber high resolutions are a waste. Useless number game with no benefit. Just a waste of resources.
The N10 has some nice features like HDMI out but 7" and price is right on the N7. The N7 has a super high DPI. Don't upgrade something that doesn't need upgrading.
This is why the Transformer 300 is faster then the Prime, different res.
I'd buy the N7 again... and I did. We have 4 of them. And I just bought 30 for a job.
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For me the N7 hits my sweet spot in terms of performance, prize and size! :good:
I'm in the same boat. I know I definitely want a Nexus tablet to replace my crappy PlayBook but I think I'm going to hold off to see what is unveiled at Google I/O before making a decision. If a successor is released I will buy that instead.
I was thinking about selling my TF700+Dock for a Nexus 7, but then again the Nexus 7 Successor should be coming out later this year. May just wait for that.
Will miss the Transformer though because of the keyboard dock (extra batt life) and it propping the screen up for viewing. Just couldn't stand the laggy IO of the TF700 though. I was reading a few other threads on here about the current Nexus 7's IO being a bottleneck, but I'm sure it's nowhere as bad as the TF700s.
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For me the N7 hits my sweet spot in terms of performance, prize and size! :good:
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I agree! I love the size of this. It's basically pocketable, even with the Sharkk keyboard case I bought. I haven't touched my iPad in three weeks since I bought it.
What's with all these "Should I buy?" threads?
Look. If you want to buy it, buy it. If you don't, then don't. How are we supposed to know your needs and what you'll be using it for? Watch some videos (there are around 3 million on YouTube) for the N7 and make the choice yourself. It's just a $200 tablet, not an Aston Martin DBS.
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What's with all these "Should I buy?" threads?
Look. If you want to buy it, buy it. If you don't, then don't. How are we supposed to know your needs and what you'll be using it for? Watch some videos (there are around 3 million on YouTube) for the N7 and make the choice yourself. It's just a $200 tablet, not an Aston Martin DBS.
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What he said... I didn't like the sgtab2 cuz the screen was fuzzy and wasnt sharp and clean like the n7
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Hi, after owning the asus TF201 for over a year now, I also wanted to change to the nexus 7 3g.
I had several problems with the TF201 (laggy wifi, laggy bluetooth, no gps, bad overall performance). During the last year I started hating asus for this design flaw.
Now i noticed, that the N7 is also produced by asus. Should I really try another product of this company?
However, yesterday I wanted to set my order.
Fortunately I found some posts about a stuttering when streaming the audio by bluetooth and additional wifi usage. Some have this stuttering, some others report that their wifi-speed drops near zero.
For me that all sounds like the same strange problems I had with the TF201 (always thought the only reason for my problems was the aluminium-case of the TF201).
Now I'm really dissapointed. The benefit of the N7 3G would be the mobility and the additional connectivity.
I also know that the nexus is a really cheap device. Nevertheless the main-functions should work.
What do you think is the reason for this bluetooth audio stuttering? Software based or really a crappy hardware (I trust asus wouldn't mind).
It all depends. I don't remember reading about a lot of people having Bluetooth problems on a stock device. Those of us who have it are the ones usually on custom ROM's. For example I'm on Paranoid Android 3+ and it's known to have Bluetooth issues. There is also a fix for it but I didn't bother as I never use Bluetooth.
Bottom line is, most people don't have these problems. What you're reading here is a great majority of people who only have problems. That's why they're here, because they're looking around for help. Millions of users I'm sure are perfectly happy with their N7's.