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My Nexus 7 Experience : (

After some time playing with the Nexus 7 I felt compelled to write my impressions. This device was ordered for my mom to use for web browsing and email.
I read a lot of reviews from several tech sites as well as some forums before deciding the Nexus 7 was the right device for her.
The reviews around the tech sites were almost all positives regarding the quality and price on this device, on the other hand, the reviews from several forum members where not that great.
People where reporting issues ranging from screen separation, blown speakers and death pixels.
Tech sites mentioned the build quality of the device and the almost leather like feeling of the back surface as good points.
Almost all of them concluded that this was the tablet to get at this price point. Some of them even went as far as saying that they haven't used their iPads after getting the Nexus 7 (People Such as TWiT hosts).
All of those great reviews, even from Apple pundits, made me beleive this was a great tablet for its price point. So today we finally received the device. The first problem was noticed as soon as we opened the device, the screen was separated and lifted above the silver bezel from the left side, so much that you can hear it flexing when touching it.
The second problem was noticed when the screen was turned on. Right on the center a pixel stuck on red color, so annoying that no matter what backgroun you use, it still shows.
I own a Motorola Xoom 4G/LTE and the Nexus 7 compared to it feels like a toy. I know they are not in the same price range, but the screen on the Xoom has the feel of hard tick glass that the Nexus lacks. I don't see how the back of the Nexus is supposed to feel like leather as mentioned by some reviewers either.
I already did the required steps to exange the device for a new one. I just hope that the replacement comes free of issues, even after reading from so many members over at XDA that it may not be the case.
----- update September 11 2012 ------
I want to give an update on my experience with this device. The RMA process was completed and the replacement tablet came without issues.
My Mom has been using it ever since receiving it and I check the device once in a while just to make sure the lift screen problem is not present.
I have to say that after using the replacement unit my opinion on this tablet has changed for good. You get great value for the price and ,being a Nexus device, the assurance to that it will receive updates on time.
My original opinion was based on a defective unit, so I felt the necessity to post this update for any person still reading this section of the forums prior to making their decision to purchase one.
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What a bummer dude, did you order it through the Play Store?

yes I did ordered from the play store.
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Honestly, even with screen flicker, this is ten times better than my iPad 2. I'm putting my iPad up on eBay tomorrow night and I'm proud to do it. I'm using a ZAGGKeys Flex Keyboard to type this post, I LOVE my N7. If you want to check out my review it's over in the accessories section of the forum.
I really hope you give the N7 another chance. This tab kicks @$$, literally.
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Lare2 said:
yes I did ordered from the play store.
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When did you place the order?

Nxxx said:
Honestly, even with screen flicker, this is ten times better than my iPad 2. I'm putting my iPad up on eBay tomorrow night and I'm proud to do it. I'm using a ZAGGKeys Flex Keyboard to type this post, I LOVE my N7. If you want to check out my review it's over in the accessories section of the forum.
I really hope you give the N7 another chance. This tab kicks @$$, literally.
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I totally love the device. the size makes more sense to me than my 10.1 inches Xoom. I just want an issue free device.
After reading so many posts about people receiving a flawless device makes me think the one I received was a lemon.
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When did you place the order?
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Saturday 21 and arrived Wednesday 25
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Sorry that happened to you but JOIN THE CLUB. Yes we all know Google and Asus screwed the pooch on the launch of the n7. No need to start a crying thread. And your complain about the quality? Dude its a 200 dollar device. Its quality for that price! So stop whining and bae will us ALL who had a detective device. This tablet blows your Xoom out the water.
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Feel sorry for you
Hi mate, I feel sorry for you that your Nexus 7 had those problems. I received mine yesterday (16 GB version) and it is perfectly fine. Hope you'll get the replacement soon.
I'm happy with the device so far and my Transformer Prime will surely be jealous. Nexus 7 is small and light enough to carry around and to read in bed, what I can't do with the Prime because of its size and weight. 7" is my thing and definitely not the 10".
The GPS is very good. After a few seconds 11 satellites were found (note: clear sky today in London!). Overall the OS is more responsive than the Prime. So far there is for example no message "Web browser is not responding" that I sometimes get on Prime since the latest update.
The only annoying thing with Nexus 7 is that the home screen is only in portrait mode. But I'm going to root it and I can say goodbye to that annoyance.

feelinfroggy23 said:
Sorry that happened to you but JOIN THE CLUB. Yes we all know Google and Asus screwed the pooch on the launch of the n7. No need to start a crying thread. And your complain about the quality? Dude its a 200 dollar device. Its quality for that price! So stop whining and bae will us ALL who had a detective device. This tablet blows your Xoom out the water.
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I'll wait until the replacement comes to see. My Xoom has 64GB Total storage and 4G LTE connectivity, so for me, the N7 can't fulfill my tablet needs yet. But recognize that my mom seems to be the perfect candidate for it with its 8GB and size.
If my replacement comes without issues, I'll pull the trigger on a second one with 16GB cause my wife liked the form factor. I've been a Google supporter for a long time, heck I paid 800+ on day one for and unlocked Xoom to dive early on this android tablet adventure so I'm totally on their camp, but I expect at least a working device.
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I think you should have gone with an iPad unless your Mom is one of the exceptions and real tech savvy and computer oriented. I hope this doesn't read as me being negative, I understand being upset and I'm not trying to come off as rude at all.
Don't get me wrong I love my nexus 7 and I love Android especially on a quad core tablet. I also have the Asus transformer prime and its one of my favorite devices ever. But when it comes to buying for parents, if looking for something amazing out of the box and simple and easy, I don't think the first batch of first gen nexus 7 tablets is the best choice in most cases.
I know you already bought yours and everything but since you wanted to inform others I just thought I would share my experiences that I've learned along the way.
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CharliesTheMan said:
I think you should have gone with an iPad unless your Mom is one of the exceptions and real tech savvy and computer oriented. I hope this doesn't read as me being negative, I understand being upset and I'm not trying to come off as rude at all.
Don't get me wrong I love my nexus 7 and I love Android especially on a quad core tablet. I also have the Asus transformer prime and its one of my favorite devices ever. But when it comes to buying for parents, if looking for something amazing out of the box and simple and easy, I don't think the first batch of first gen nexus 7 tablets is the best choice in most cases.
I know you already bought yours and everything but since you wanted to inform others I just thought I would share my experiences that I've learned along the way.
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She is pretty much OS agnostic, she can find its way around on the two computer they have at home, even though one is running Slitaz Linux, she understand the basic concepts to be able to figure it out where the browser, email and games are no matter the OS.
I took it to Best Buy to see the iPads and she played with it already, but she also played with two tablets 7 inches in size from Samsung and Acer, and decided that was a better form factor.
She basically wanted something to use out of the house for some games she plays and on the house while not on the PC. The problem here is with the device being defective rather than hard for her to use.
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Shame you received a device with hardware defects - no user should ever except it as such, get it replaced and enjoy a perfect device.
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Lare2 said:
After some time playing with the Nexus 7 I felt compelled to write my impressions. This device was ordered for my mom to use for web browsing and email.
I read a lot of reviews from several tech sites as well as some forums before deciding the Nexus 7 was the right device for her.
The reviews around the tech sites were almost all positives regarding the quality and price on this device, on the other hand, the reviews from several forum members where not that great.
People where reporting issues ranging from screen separation, blown speakers and death pixels.
Tech sites mentioned the build quality of the device and the almost leather like feeling of the back surface as good points.
Almost all of them concluded that this was the tablet to get at this price point. Some of them even went as far as saying that they haven't used their iPads after getting the Nexus 7 (People Such as TWiT hosts).
All of those great reviews, even from Apple pundits, made me beleive this was a great tablet for its price point. So today we finally received the device. The first problem was noticed as soon as we opened the device, the screen was separated and lifted above the silver bezel from the left side, so much that you can hear it flexing when touching it.
The second problem was noticed when the screen was turned on. Right on the center a pixel stuck on red color, so annoying that no matter what backgroun you use, it still shows.
I own a Motorola Xoom 4G/LTE and the Nexus 7 compared to it feels like a toy. I know they are not in the same price range, but the screen on the Xoom has the feel of hard tick glass that the Nexus lacks. I don't see how the back of the Nexus is supposed to feel like leather as mentioned by some reviewers either.
I already did the required steps to exange the device for a new one. I just hope that the replacement comes free of issues, even after reading from so many members over at XDA that it may not be the case.
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I feel you on the screen issues but you aren't giving the device a fair shake until you've actually gotten some seat time with it.
right now, it sounds like you're judging a defective device solely on some cosmetic issues that hopefully will get resolved with the replacement.
play with it some more until the replacement comes and evaluate it based on its size/weight, form factor, JB, speed/responsiveness, functionality, etc.

I want to give an update on my experience with this device. The RMA process was completed and the replacement tablet came without issues.
My Mom has been using it ever since receiving it and I check the device once in a while just to make sure the lift screen problem is not present.
I have to say that after using the replacement unit my opinion on this tablet has changed for good. You get great value for the price and ,being a Nexus device, the assurance to that it will receive updates on time.
My original opinion was based on a defective unit, so I felt the necessity to post this update for any person still reading this section of the forums prior to making their decision to purchase one.
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ASUS Hate?

What's the deal here? Asus makes good stuff they always have. I was happy to hear they were making the nexus 7.
Obviously everyone who is complaining about ASUS has never built a pc like ever. I dunno what everyone expects really. People want Samsung, yet I have to swap out my captivate twice, once for a bad loudspeaker, and once for a bad power button. Both were known issues. HTCs have some claim to be indestructible but guess what? My buddies Droid incredible, not indestructible as his power button died. And seems on the Flyer, bad charging ports were common. My wifes HTC Vivids screen died a month after use. I'm not scared at all of buying htc or Samsung again either but mobile technology just breaks its how it goes. Welcome to the era of cheap Chinese manufacturing!
Honestly my nexus seems fine. I don't see anything wrong with build quality or screen. I do notice the calibration issue but otherwise everything works fine on it and mine is one of the second wave. We're all early adopters too, think about xbox 360 or ps2 owners. All the testing in the world won't reveal all the common issues, so we're all Guinea pigs right now testing and telling Asus and Google what's wrong. And that's okay because I have a warranty and Google's warranty service is awesome.
I'm just sick of the Asus bashing myself. You want cheap shoddy crap? Have Sony make us a tablet!
As for this screen separation issues it'll blow over.
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Cor-master said:
What's the deal here? Asus makes good stuff they always have. I was happy to hear they were making the nexus 7.
Obviously everyone who is complaining about ASUS has never built a pc like ever. I dunno what everyone expects really. People want Samsung, yet I have to swap out my captivate twice, once for a bad loudspeaker, and once for a bad power button. Both were known issues. HTCs have some claim to be indestructible but guess what? My buddies Droid incredible, not indestructible as his power button died. And seems on the Flyer, bad charging ports were common. My wifes HTC Vivids screen died a month after use. I'm not scared at all of buying htc or Samsung again either but mobile technology just breaks its how it goes. Welcome to the era of cheap Chinese manufacturing!
Honestly my nexus seems fine. I don't see anything wrong with build quality or screen. I do notice the calibration issue but otherwise everything works fine on it and mine is one of the second wave. We're all early adopters too, think about xbox 360 or ps2 owners. All the testing in the world won't reveal all the common issues, so we're all Guinea pigs right now testing and telling Asus and Google what's wrong. And that's okay because I have a warranty and Google's warranty service is awesome.
I'm just sick of the Asus bashing myself. You want cheap shoddy crap? Have Sony make us a tablet!
As for this screen separation issues it'll blow over.
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"Obviously" nothing. I've used Asus before for motherboards, and they were fine. However, their tablet business is a different story. This company has screwed me personally multiple times already with my Transformer Prime, and have screwed many other customers as well. Take a trip over to the Prime forums if you really want to know why there's so much "Asus hate" as you put it. They've earned every bit of it.

Their build quality is on par with the competition. HTC, Samsung, LG, Motorola, hell even Apple. Mobile stuff breaks it is what it is.
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The Nexus 7 is a great device. When reading these forums you have to remember that the negative posts are the vocal minority. This is due to two things:
People that are happy, and have no issues, generally don't post to just say, "hey all is good here." For every poster with a legit issue there are tens of thousands without issues that do not post.
A lot of people are really not that intelligent. They don't understand the technology, they don't bother to read the specs before they order the phone, or have unrealistic expectations.
It's not just ASUS. The same thing happened when the Galaxy Nexus was released. Someone that came in and just scanned the XDA GNex General would have thought the phone was the worst device ever release. In actuality it's just the opposite.

Yeah I want to add that alot of companies aren't great with warranties. Honestly htc I probably the best as I've read stories of people sending in their completely dead flyers with bad charging ports in, rooted and unlocked bootloader and they've fixed the charge port and sent it back. Sony surely wasn't very nice about the disc read error on the ps2, telling customers to just buy another one, and Samsung on numerous occasions to people I've known refused to honor warranties on their tvs. Also my captivate had a bad gps antenna, in fact all galaxy s phones did and Samsung never owned up to that. The grass is always greener I guess...
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When you make 1000's of units- there's bound to be some frustrated customers, it's just sheer numbers, nothing is perfect.
I think Google initially took the most hits for the lack of SD cardslot, the big price difference between the 8 and 16GB units, and the rollout craziness when they had stores withhold units they actually had on hand till their own direct to customer channel got up to speed.
Once defects began to crop up in delivered units- ASUS came under the blade for poor quality control.
ASUS has to take blame for physical defects- that has nothing to do with Google. IIRC- the N7 was pretty much based on a 7" tablet ASUS already had in the works- for a 2012 release Google just had them remove some items (like the bemoaned SD cardslot) and rebadge it as a Google tablet. Google can't be blamed for poor workmanship on the N7, blame ASUS if your tablet isn't satisfactory.
In the end- Google should/will make good for defective units, so it's a bit of an inconvenience for the end-users, but that's how it is with complicated consumer electronics nowadays anyway.
OT- this is a tablet forum, but since the OP mentioned ASUS motherboards- their current product is not what it once was quality wise.
Years ago- I mean 10-12 years ago ASUS motherboards were top notch, with very good quality components that would last forever. As soon as the infamous "bulging capacitors" started showing up in consumer items- they started showing up in ASUS motherboards too. ASUS was particularly difficult to deal with in some of these cases and got out of making good on warranty service when they could. That really tarnished their reputation and opened the door for newer companies to offer their products to computer builders. Soon after that, the rest of the motherboard industry caught up with ASUS, and some have surpassed them in value features for the dollar. ASUS IMO is no longer 'special" as far as their motherboard product- I'd rate them just middle of the road quality wise and low to medium in features for the dollar on their motherboards. Can't remember the last time I used an ASUS MB for one of my computer builds...

nyijedi said:
"Obviously" nothing. I've used Asus before for motherboards, and they were fine. However, their tablet business is a different story. This company has screwed me personally multiple times already with my Transformer Prime, and have screwed many other customers as well. Take a trip over to the Prime forums if you really want to know why there's so much "Asus hate" as you put it. They've earned every bit of it.
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If you believe this, then why on earth would you have bought a Nexus 7?
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ASUS makes good desktop and laptop components, but their tablets have been less than stellar. The OG Transformer was great until it was first updated to ICS and then even stock users were getting random reboots and sleep of deaths. The Transformer Prime was good but had the GPS and WiFi issues. I haven't heard anything about the TF301 or TF701 but the Nexus 7 has had it's fair share of issues.
I love ASUS and have owned probably every type of product they have put out, and sadly their tablets just aren't on par with the rest of the company.
My Nexus 7 only has the screen lift issue which is fine with me, but a lot of others are having much more severe issues.

ASUS makes great tablets, they are my favorite, when they aren't defective.
It's purely my opinion and observation. But it seems like ASUS struggles a lot more with their early batches of tablets than others. Sure Apple and Samsung have defects too. But buying an ASUS tablet during it's first month of launch always seems like a much bigger cluster**** than with Apple or Samsung or others.
Not sure why this is, but I think ASUS is rushing too much to get a head start on Samsung and the competitors. TF101 released before the Galaxy Tab 10.1, TF201 was the first ICS tablet, TF701 was almost the first 1920x1200 tablet. And this Nexus 7 was pretty somewhat retooled in just 4 months for Google.

Cor-master said:
Their build quality is on par with the competition. HTC, Samsung, LG, Motorola, hell even Apple. Mobile stuff breaks it is what it is.
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I respectfully disagree. I own devices from a variety of companies. Apple's 1st iPad, Motorola Droid, HTC G1 and Nexus One, Samsung's Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus, and Asus' Transformer Prime and Nexus 7. Only two of those devices have had any problems - care to guess which two?
pharpe said:
The Nexus 7 is a great device. When reading these forums you have to remember that the negative posts are the vocal minority. This is due to two things:
People that are happy, and have no issues, generally don't post to just say, "hey all is good here." For every poster with a legit issue there are tens of thousands without issues that do not post.
A lot of people are really not that intelligent. They don't understand the technology, they don't bother to read the specs before they order the phone, or have unrealistic expectations.
It's not just ASUS. The same thing happened when the Galaxy Nexus was released. Someone that came in and just scanned the XDA GNex General would have thought the phone was the worst device ever release. In actuality it's just the opposite.
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Just to be clear, I love my Nexus 7, but that love is a direct result of Google's awesome software. The thing is snappy and stable as hell, unlike my buggy, garbage Transformer Prime w/ its Asus controlled software that lags and ANRs every friggin' second. I bought the N7 expecting to have hardware problems based on my past experience with Asus tablets, and they certainly didn't disappoint (well, they did, but you know what I mean ). The software more than makes up for it though - at least for me.
The good news is that I'll bet anything that Google is done with this crappy company after the N7.
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miketoasty said:
I love ASUS and have owned probably every type of product they have put out, and sadly their tablets just aren't on par with the rest of the company.
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I think this may be the issue. Those who insist on defending Asus seem to be customers who have bought plenty of Asus products before, but no tablets. Those of us who own a TF101 or TF201 know the deal. Their tablet division does seem to be run very differently from the rest of the company.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5i4l143RIY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
You mean that tablet? Looks identical to it but oddly no front camera, but it has a rear camera.
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pharpe said:
The Nexus 7 is a great device. When reading these forums you have to remember that the negative posts are the vocal minority. This is due to two things:
People that are happy, and have no issues, generally don't post to just say, "hey all is good here." For every poster with a legit issue there are tens of thousands without issues that do not post.
A lot of people are really not that intelligent. They don't understand the technology, they don't bother to read the specs before they order the phone, or have unrealistic expectations.
It's not just ASUS. The same thing happened when the Galaxy Nexus was released. Someone that came in and just scanned the XDA GNex General would have thought the phone was the worst device ever release. In actuality it's just the opposite.
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Hey all is good here. Received mine last week. It's mittens!

nyijedi said:
I respectfully disagree. I own devices from a variety of companies. Apple's 1st iPad, Motorola Droid, HTC G1 and Nexus One, Samsung's Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus, and Asus' Transformer Prime and Nexus 7. Only two of those devices have had any problems - care to guess which two?
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To call you out, the iPad 1 had horrible screen bleed. The Motorola Droid was locked (still is?). The Nexus One didn't have multitouch (it did but was completely broken), and the Galaxy Nexus has a problem with grays on the screen (visible lines) and had multitouch issues similar to the N7 now. The iPad3 gets super hot and burning people. The iPhone 4 was ruined by a signal shorting metal housing.
I also owned a Transformer TF101 was nearly perfect aside from some occasional case creaking.
I've owned all of the above and I know first hand. Nothing is perfect.
The Transformer Prime primarily had issues with wireless signals because of the metal backing, hence why the new models are plastic. I don't know if there were other problems. I remember something about GPS too, which isn't bad considering you don't use GPS on a 10" tablet very often. Not sure if they fixed that.
Asus DID have problems with the PRIME but all of their other devices really set the bar. Their device support (software patches; upgrades) is the best I've ever seen to date. I've gotten more updates on my TF101 then from Google on my Galaxy Nexus. It's even getting JB. No other tablet that was launched on Honeycomb (maybe Xoom?) is seeing JB released officially. I don't even think the Samsung 10.1 Tabs even got to ICS.
Needless to say, the issues with the N7 are subtle compared to just most of the devices you mentioned.

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To call you out, the iPad 1 had horrible screen bleed. The Motorola Droid was locked (still is?). The Nexus One didn't have multitouch (it did but was completely broken), and the Galaxy Nexus has a problem with grays on the screen (visible lines) and had multitouch issues similar to the N7 now. The iPad3 gets super hot and burning people. The iPhone 4 was ruined by a signal shorting metal housing.
I also owned a Transformer TF101 was nearly perfect aside from some occasional case creaking.
I've owned all of the above and I know first hand. Nothing is perfect.
The Transformer Prime primarily had issues with wireless signals because of the metal backing, hence why the new models are plastic. I don't know if there were other problems. I remember something about GPS too, which isn't bad considering you don't use GPS on a 10" tablet very often. Not sure if they fixed that.
Asus DID have problems with the PRIME but all of their other devices really set the bar. Their device support (software patches; upgrades) is the best I've ever seen to date. I've gotten more updates on my TF101 then from Google on my Galaxy Nexus. It's even getting JB. No other tablet that was launched on Honeycomb (maybe Xoom?) is seeing JB released officially. I don't even think the Samsung 10.1 Tabs even got to ICS.
Needless to say, the issues with the N7 are subtle compared to just most of the devices you mentioned.
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Never had screen bleed on my iPad1 (probably because Apple quickly rectified the problem once finding out about it, unlike Asus). The Droid 1 was never locked. Nexus One multitouch issues were overblown. I'm not familiar with your two complaints about the Galaxy Nexus, as I have 2 of them (wife and myself) and both are perfect.
I will say this - it does seem that the Prime is Asus' biggest mistake, and that's the device that has really formed my opinions of Asus. Their device support on the Prime SUCKS. They have an Asus rep keep promising updates here on the XDA forums, but nothing comes. And the few that have come have actually borked the Prime more than before. As for GPS, it doesn't matter if YOU don't have a use for it. THey ADVERTISED IT, it didn't work (also because of the terribly designed metal back plate), and then they "fixed" it by removing GPS functionality from the box! Can you believe that?! They finally released a "GPS" dongle for the Prime, but you can't charge the Prime when it's plugged in, so forget about using it on a long road trip.
Then you have the RMA issues. Do a quick search for RMA and CID (customer-induced damage) re: Asus and their Prime if you want to see how they treat their customers.
Sorry, but I absolutely will not budge on what a terrible company Asus is - at least as far as tablets go.

I've never had any more trouble with Asus products then others, I'd guess the majority of components are sourced from the same Chinese manufacturers which supply other companies such as Samsung, HTC, etc. Given that most of the issues seems to stem from overtightened screws and misapplication of adhesive the major problem appears to be with Asus's (or whichever company they contract out to) quality control. Which is probably going to be a problem that begins to affect more companies as consumers keep demanding lower prices.

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Never had screen bleed on my iPad1 (probably because Apple quickly rectified the problem once finding out about it, unlike Asus). The Droid 1 was never locked. Nexus One multitouch issues were overblown. I'm not familiar with your two complaints about the Galaxy Nexus, as I have 2 of them (wife and myself) and both are perfect.
I will say this - it does seem that the Prime is Asus' biggest mistake, and that's the device that has really formed my opinions of Asus. Their device support on the Prime SUCKS. They have an Asus rep keep promising updates here on the XDA forums, but nothing comes. And the few that have come have actually borked the Prime more than before. As for GPS, it doesn't matter if YOU don't have a use for it. THey ADVERTISED IT, it didn't work (also because of the terribly designed metal back plate), and then they "fixed" it by removing GPS functionality from the box! Can you believe that?! They finally released a "GPS" dongle for the Prime, but you can't charge the Prime when it's plugged in, so forget about using it on a long road trip.
Then you have the RMA issues. Do a quick search for RMA and CID (customer-induced damage) re: Asus and their Prime if you want to see how they treat their customers.
Sorry, but I absolutely will not budge on what a terrible company Asus is - at least as far as tablets go.
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I wouldn't call Asus terrible on the tablet front. Not the best is better suited but they aren't terrible by a long shot, they release the best tablets before anyone else, but their QC is subpar.

miketoasty said:
I wouldn't call Asus terrible on the tablet front. Not the best is better suited but they aren't terrible by a long shot, they release the best tablets before anyone else, but their QC is subpar.
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"Release the best tablets?" I don't know, man. The Prime is beautiful, but the thing is practically a paper weight. The piss-poor I/O performance and constant ANRs make it just about unusable for anything other than light web browsing. I'm not exaggerating either. You can check out the Prime forums if you don't believe me.

nyijedi said:
"Release the best tablets?" I don't know, man. The Prime is beautiful, but the thing is practically a paper weight. The piss-poor I/O performance and constant ANRs make it just about unusable for anything other than light web browsing. I'm not exaggerating either. You can check out the Prime forums if you don't believe me.
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I already asked this, but you still don't answer. If you believe Asus makes garbage and you have "evidence/proof/personal experience" then why did you buy an N7? If you don't have an N7 because of the pure awesomeness of your iPad, then what the hell are you even on the N7 forums for?
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My first unit has screen lift which is pretty minor, but it also has dead audio jack (one side) and touch issues (one touch turns into two, causing random zooming and problems in Swype). I have had good luck with asus pc components but this is not very impressive.
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ExploreMN said:
I already asked this, but you still don't answer. If you believe Asus makes garbage and you have "evidence/proof/personal experience" then why did you buy an N7? If you don't have an N7 because of the pure awesomeness of your iPad, then what the hell are you even on the N7 forums for?
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Sorry if you asked it - I didn't see it.
My most hated tech company is Asus. However, my most beloved tech company is Google, and I specifically love their Nexus line. I own every Nexus device - I even imported the Galaxy Nexus from Europe before it went on sale here. I'm an unapologetic Google/Nexus fan boy. So as you can imagine, Google using Asus for their first Nexus tablet put me in a tough spot. I held out for a week after it was released, but finally decided that it was worth it to bite the bullet and get the tablet despite it being made by Asus, especially considering the low $200 price point, and especially considering that it would be supported by Google and not Asus. And I love the N7. Sure, I had to install some shims and crazy glue the screen, but I love the thing. I'm just speaking the truth about Asus. Sorry if you don't like it.
Also, not sure what you're talking about re: "the pure awesomeness of your iPad" comment. Just because I'm ripping on Asus doesn't mean I'm an Apple fanboy. On the contrary, I'm a huge Android fanboy. I have the original iPad back from when it was released, before Android tablets existed. I don't even use it anymore. Very odd comment on your part, IMHO.

I love this piece of junk.

I have to admit the build quality is second rate, but I really love this little piece of crap. Yeah, it has that weird cross-axis multitouch problem and the screen keeps wanting to jump out of the bezel (or at least peep over the edge). And I'm told if you turn down the brightness and read the mobi version of 'War and Peace' while standing on your head and humming theme song to Star Trek on the first Wednesday after a full moon with a pomegranate in your pants at some point you'll get some kind of screen flicker, but I haven't seen that yet.
I love the GPS on this thing. I especially love that fact that I could get a device with GPS and no cell radio (which invariably involves a wireless provider and either a contract or a ridiculously high price). I've used multiple Android phones over the last couple of years, and aside from an Evo 3D that worked fairly well, GPS on functionality was horrible to useless.
I'm still debating whether to RMA it for the multitouch problem, because I can see that being an issue with some apps (mostly games). But, considering the price, even if that never gets fixed, so long as it keeps working as well as it is now, I can live with the imperfections.

Same with me I love this little POS. Asus has a long history of making good products with lower build quality. My first laptop was an asus then got the eeepc then transformer tablet and how the nexus. The laptop broke and so did the eeepc, I sold the transformer after a few months so I don't know how well it would of held up but I still think all of them were great value for the price. Out of all of those the nexus 7 is the best in terms of build quality.

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Same with me I love this little POS. Asus has a long history of making good products with lower build quality. My first laptop was an asus then got the eeepc then transformer tablet and how the nexus. The laptop broke and so did the eeepc, I sold the transformer after a few months so I don't know how well it would of held up but I still think all of them were great value for the price. Out of all of those the nexus 7 is the best in terms of build quality.
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Whoa cowboy! Who do You think You are to interfere in such a way? If You have a problem with this thread, report it to mods, but don't act like a cnut.
Back on topic, I guess I'm lucky as my device (third...) is perfect. Gotta admit tho' , that it is one sweet piece of junk.
Gps is great btw. I get fix in seconds inside my place, while desire s barely can get signal even laying just by the window.

I have the multitouch problem too, and honestly I think most people have it but don't realize it. I've already rma'd three times for other problems so I'm not going to even consider it. Unless news starts coming in about new ones being perfect with no occurrences of multitouch issues, then I'll probably be tempted. Right now I'm seeing reports of people exchanging it for the multitouch issues only to get a replacement with the same problem. No thanks. And I love this thing as well, everyone I show it to is amazed at what it can do (nfc Google wallet, face recognition, gps, Google now, flash, etc)
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me too
First tablet for me. Long term Linux user but I can do most things on this and so rarely boot my laptop now. Have a sneaky feeling that Swiftkey on my phone is a little better, but not by much.

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I have the multitouch problem too, and honestly I think most people have it but don't realize it. I've already rma'd three times for other problems so I'm not going to even consider it. Unless news starts coming in about new ones being perfect with no occurrences of multitouch issues, then I'll probably be tempted. Right now I'm seeing reports of people exchanging it for the multitouch issues only to get a replacement with the same problem. No thanks. And I love this thing as well, everyone I show it to is amazed at what it can do (nfc Google wallet, face recognition, gps, Google now, flash, etc)
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I have 100's of hours of usage on my N7 now, and I'm sure mine has no "multitouch issues".
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I still haven't seen any issues with multitouch, or screen flickers, or anything else people have complained about. I guess you hear about all the bad things but never about people who have no problems with it.

I really love the tablet too. I just love how fast it is and the streamlined experience I have with Google Apps syncing my mail and reminders. 90% of the things I did on my laptop are not done on my Tablet which is browsing the web, videos, music, and small games.
Since I'm having issues with this one, I think I'll get a refund and try the tablet some other time since I can't deal with these issues right now.

I think its far from a piece of junk but I luv mines too! No screen lift speakers sound good and screen works as advertised. Perfect little companion.
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Owned a TF101 and Galaxy Tab 2 7" and this is by far my far my favorite. The speed is top notch and the 7" screen size is also great. The 1280 resolution kicks the crap out of the 1080 that the Tab2 has. Pretty much the perfect device in my opinion.
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I have currently the HTC desire (in a draw somewhere), galaxy s2-exynos4210 (for alarm clock/ gaming), galaxy s3-exynos4412 (main phone), archos 70it (7inch 1ghz single core tab that I got in 2010 and is in my wardrobe somewhere and haven't seen it in like 6months ) and Samsung galaxy tab 10.1(alarm clock/ pdf viewer).
I also know my s3's cpu is more powerful, the GPU is considerably more powerful, yet I prefer using this less powerful nexus 7. I couldn't think of a better phrase to describe how I feel about this tab, the op by saying "I love this piece of junk" has just got it bang on. Out of all my devices, the n7 is defiantly my favorite at the moment. Although, I have just put a leaked Jelly Been rom (LH7) on my s3 and it is smoother than the n7 but stock android just looks sooooooo! much better looking than touchwiz, so when the s3 gets a stableish CM10 (as in all the elements which make "project butter" work are working properly as it isn't that smooth at the moment and the memory leak is fixed) , my n7 my have some competition. But at the moment, the n7 is just fantastic.

I had the Multitouch issue and screen lifting. I RMAed it and still have those issues. The multitouch isn't causing me any problems for now so I decided to ignore it. I'm watching closely on the screen lift problem (stable, for now). I also decided to enjoy my N7 and accept the fact that Asus can't do better than this at the moment....

You think this is bad quality? You've clearly never seen what China sells for the same price.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJXlFcAaSIk

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You think this is bad quality? You've clearly never seen what China sells for the same price.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJXlFcAaSIk
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Lol, that is bad. My niece got a cheap Android tablet last Christmas. I think it was selling for about $150 at the time. It was slow, had a horrible resistive screen and it lasted about a week.
The quality of junk is steadily improving. I always try to keep 20-years-ago me in mind when I'm feeling cheated because the glass on my $250 high-powered hand-held computer (with 24-bit accelerated HD video, super-accurate GPS, compass, accelerometer, gyroscope, wireless broadband internet, touch interface, loads of cheap or free apps and games; which holds every song I've ever owned plus HD movies) barely perceptibly pokes out on one side. 20-years-ago me would be envious as hell and would slap me for being such a spoiled baby.

I love this. Thind and its in my opinion better than the iPad.
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Fair enough, but considering you have to not be touching the tablet in any way other than the screen, not have it charging, not have it on your lap, and not have headphones plugged in, not have it sitting on any conductive surface, and use a multitouch app or such to see the problem, I'm sure there are plenty of people who have it who don't notice. I have hundreds of hours of usage too and had no idea till I saw the thread and recreated the conditions.
People in the thread are asking those that don't have it to post a video so they can be sure it's not standard. One guy didn't have it with two fingers, but was able to recreate it with four. But as soon as I'm sure that new ones are defect free, I'll probably try to get it exchanged,.
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I still haven't seen any issues with multitouch, or screen flickers, or anything else people have complained about. I guess you hear about all the bad things but never about people who have no problems with it.
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Again, before you say that, please read the thread, it's not a problem most would see under regular use. Not saying you don't have it, but I don't want people to think it's a huge obvious problem when it really isn't (like I said, you have to be not touching the tablet in any way other than your fingers, etc. Mine is in a case and even holding it in the case makes it work fine, but there may be some case materials that could make it so the multitouch issues show up as if you weren't there touching the tablet)
Honestly I wish I hadn't read some of these threads., I wouldn't even know these problems existed : )
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I think its far from a piece of junk but I luv mines too! No screen lift speakers sound good and screen works as advertised. Perfect little companion.
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I honestly have to say I feel the same. I posted in another thread about "Project Butter" being a bunch of P.R. crap and I still feel it has a long way to go but this little thing really is a great device overall.
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[Q] I wish i found this forum before buying the nexus7.

Bump this thread if you regret purchasing the goole nexus 7. after reading all the faults people have been having i would not have got mine thats for sure.

Nope. I have a screen lift but I love it to death. There is no other 7" tablet in its class. In its price range with such hardware. Its a shame its got so many issues but I don't care I can always fix it.
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I don't really regret it. It's an awesome little tablet, and I love the size of it.
I have a problem which is pissing me off A LOT - but it's not a hardware one, although I can't find a solution.
I can't get true multitasking. Chrome (and every other browser) keep reloading my tabs, for instance, wasting time and bandwidth, and apps keep losing my progress. It's really lame.
Tried all those RAM managers, V6 Supercharger, etc. Nothing helped.
Sounds silly, but it's really ruining the experience for me.

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Bump this thread if you regret purchasing the goole nexus 7. after reading all the faults people have been having i would not have got mine thats for sure.
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I knew full well that some models developed screen problems creaking, lifting, bleeding, speaker problems etc... HOWEVER all devices can faults of some sort, I got my nexus today (c90) currently choosing a rom and im loving it. I have checked for screen problems and speaker problems, if I came across any problem I would have returned it and got another one.
At the end of the day its a great device, if you regret buying it, second hand nexus 7's are holding their value well and are selling just a little under RRP sell yours and buy an iPad ... Oh wait some ipads suffer from wifi , screen and overheating problems.
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My personal opinion is that some people are just being overly picky. They expect their 200$ tablet to have the same image quality as a 500$ Transformer Infinity. Asus might have taken a few tradeoffs to get this tablet at such a good price, but it's still a much better tablet than all the other products that used to sell within that same price range. The screen quality for instance (which some people are unhappy with) is miles ahead of my Xoom's screen.
Also keep in mind that happy users don't often post on forums. There is more apparent people having issues with their N7 because that device sold like hot cakes. Bottom line, I suspect the ratio of issue/fine tablets isn't that much worse than other products in the same price range.

Loving mine (c80). Knew about all the problems before I got it, but took the risk anyway. I got lucky. No problems here :thumbup:
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Considering that the next thing for $200 would be a tablet made by a Chinese dude in his basement, Nexus 7 is a great device
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I don't really regret it. It's an awesome little tablet, and I love the size of it.
I have a problem which is pissing me off A LOT - but it's not a hardware one, although I can't find a solution.
I can't get true multitasking. Chrome (and every other browser) keep reloading my tabs, for instance, wasting time and bandwidth, and apps keep losing my progress. It's really lame.
Tried all those RAM managers, V6 Supercharger, etc. Nothing helped.
Sounds silly, but it's really ruining the experience for me.
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are you using a custom launcher and an over abundance of widgets? im using the android browser(aosp, not chrome) with the stock launcher, and o havent had one browser reload on my n7 ever. it sounds like you have something seriously draining your ram. do you use any fkasable mods/themes? a bloated custom rom maybe?

It's the best 7" tablet you can buy... other devices have their own problems

He said bump this thread if you regret buying this device. Everyone that is bumping it loves their N7.
So........
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He said bump this thread if you regret buying this device. Everyone that is bumping it loves their N7.
So........
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So..... what?

Regret it? Hell no and I already read about all the issues. Took the chance and mine is fine. What I regret is buying that $500 under performing, lagging in portrait mode, barely supported Galaxy Tab 10.1 that is sitting on my shelf. I don't regret a $250 tablet that runs circles around that one all day long.. And it's actually supported

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It's the best 7" tablet you can buy... other devices have their own problems
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+1, I don't think anyone regrets buying it.

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So..... what?
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So he bumps it too cuz he loves his nexus
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I don't know why everyone is freaking out. I had a dead pixel so I exchanged it and now its perfect. I had to send my playbook to blackberry 3 times because of dead pixels.
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I dont regret buying the tablet cause it is awesome, but i do regret it because i dont use it as much as i thought i would.

Only had mine a day and love it to death!
I haven't had any issues....yet. Hoping If I do its with in 15 days so I can return and exchange for another one.
Coming from the 1st Fire, this thing runs circles around it.
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I think if you read the forums for every device you want to buy (that's been out for a while) you will have a hard time finding one to buy. Forums like this are a magnet for people with problems and people here seem especially picky. It may seem like doom and gloom around here because the people without problems don't post or don't come here.
I'm not saying the nexus 7 is without flaws, but you're not getting an accurate picture here.
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This thread is identical in every salient respect to travelling to a distant country, walking into a hospital, and asking "what the hell is wrong with this country? Everyone here is wounded or sick or dying". A little perspective would reveal that the patients in a hospital are not a representative sample of the larger community, and therefore not indicative of how well others are doing outside the hospital walls.
The XDA forums cover dozens of devices and development platforms. Each of those has various forums, and it is usually the _(device)_ General forum that houses the complaints. Nexus 7 General - the forum you are reading now - isn't even one of the most active 'General' forums, and the majority of posts here aren't about problems that would affect a purchasing decision. But when someone has a problem with their Nexus 7, they do a Google search and XDA is almost always the top hit (much like 'AAA Taxi' was often the busiest taxi company in big cities back in the Yellow Pages days) so the number of people with problems is much higher here than it is elsewhere. Let's look at some numbers:
Nexus 7's sold: ~3-5 million
Total number of threads in Nexus 7 General: 1335
Total number of posts in Nexus 7 General: 57242
So let's assume the worst-case scenario: only 3 million N7's have been sold, and every single post here was made by unique owners of faulty devices. That would represent a ~2% failure rate.
But the actual sales numbers are between 3 and 5 million... let's call it 4 million. And looking over the first 10 pages of threads, I'll be generous and say that 20% of the threads are about actual problems in the N7 (and not, say,someone who simply didn't bother reading the manual, or who just wants to complain that their $200 N7 doesn't do everything their $700 iPad does... the actual number is closer to 10%, but I don't want to bias this in favor of my point so I'll call it 20%). Also looking over the first ten pages of threads, it is apparent that some members join in on any thread dissing the N7, so the number of posts doesn't actually represent the same number of unique people having problems... again being generous I will say 20% of the people who post here - the real number is nowhere near that high, probably in the single digits - have critical purchase-decision-level problems. That would represent a ~0.2% failure rate.
But, as mentioned before, the majority of people who are perfectly happy with their N7s, who don't have problems and don't want to change their ROMs, don't end up here at all. It's the people who google 'Nexus 7 problems' that end up here, so the population has a pretty strong bias. Even just taking into account the biases I pointed out above, the N7 has no more (and possibly no less) problems than any other device.
But it sure has its share of drama-queens *****ing about it.

Received Nexus.......Selling this week. Nexus VS TAB 2 7 3G

I have been going around and around with these devices. I got the TAB 2 7 P3100 3G from the wife for Christmas after researching both. I could not make up my mind and Christmas was coming quickly so I asked her for the more expensive P3100 (LOL) and I already have a samsung device in the Note 2.
But was still very interested in the Nexus since I have been reading nothing but great things about it. Now this may not be a fair comparison because the TAB is a 3G device that is invisible to my carrier ATT. However I will put that aside and share my impressions after playing with the Nexus solely for the last day and a half.
When I initially put the TAB 2 next to my Note, my jaw dropped at the "washed out" colors on the TAB compared to the Note 2. This lit the Nexus fire and I had to get one now especially since I read and heard nothing but great things about the Nexus screen, When I saw a One day only sale at the Adorama Store on Ebay on New Years day for $229 shipped I jumped at it and ordered an accessories package on Ebay (which has yet to arrive). I immediately put the TAB on Ebay for a high "Buy It Now only price (in the "unlikely" event i would not like the Nexus 7) I am glad now no one bought it after playing with the Nexus over the past couple days.
Initially I loved the all black look of the Nexus with the screen off vs the framed TAB. (small meaningless detail) I also appreciated the slightly narrower form factor and feel of the back cover. The glass was perfect. No build issues here. Looked great although I am not the type who "wears" my phones and devices. I use them.
I immediately unlocked it, flashed a custom recovery and flashed ParanoidAndroid on it. Very nice. I played with it for a day or so. This afternoon I finally I put the TAB side by side with the Nexus and found the Nexus was faster but not all that much. Not enough to say "wow" Certainly not as much as I thought it would be.
What stopped me in my tracks and gave me major pause was when I put the same picture up on the Nexus I initially compared with my Note 2 and had all three side by side. The Note was still much better. No suprise there. But this time the TAB and Nexus were very much the same. The Nexus was not as I had expected. The colors were not nearly as saturated as the Note and in fact almost identical to the TAB on all screen brightness settings In fact I could not tell them apart from a color saturation standpoint. I could however appreciate the denser pixel count on the Nexus when zooming in especially. But Needless to say i expected a much much better screen color quality and much much closer to the Note 2 in color quality. The Note 2 screen is amazing I guess.
USB OTG worked great on both but I don't need it on the TAB with 70GB of usable storage. vs <30GB. I initially had issue with the 64GB card in the TAB which pushed me into the nexus as well early on. But that has been solved. That along with the 3G and phone abilities of the TAB leading me to decide the TAB was the better of the two to keep for my needs.
Initially I thought the choices of ROMs the Nexus development community offered would be a plus but I usually find one ROM and stick with it. I can always get the CM 10 and AKOP ROMS for the TAB along with the TW ROMs.
The front camera on the Nexus is not as good as the rear camera on the TAB although the difference was about as much as the front cameras between the TAB and Nexus. All of them are nothing special. (although I am old enough to remember when 3MB camera was a great addition to a phone!!)
The thing I did like about the Nexus is the USB port but I have loaded up with Samsung "proprietary" USB Cables
and OTG accessories.
All that said the TAN IS A 3g devices and a phone. IF The TAB were the US non 3G model the decision would be much harder. But I would likely lean in its direction because I am used to Samsungs recovery and download modes (although Fastboot took all of 30 seconds to figure out) I expected a whole lot more from the color density and the screen on the Nexus, At the end of the day the additional storage along with the camera possibilities won me over. I am not a gamer so the quad core would likely not be a factor although I did run Need for Speed on the TAb to test it initially and it ran fine.
This is not a knock on the Nexus. It is a great device and for the money the best on paper. but for me anyway the difference were not enough to give up the advantages of the extra storage and free phone and 3G capability, which I could have done anyway using the Note as a hot spot with the Nexus,

Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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Quoted cause its the truth.

korockinout13 said:
Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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Yeah I really didn't pay much attention to the screen specs. I assumed the Nexus would be much better than the TAB likely because of the Pixel density if nothing else. I think if Google/Asus would have put ExtSD capability, headset microphone, and maybe even a better front camera, I would keep the Nexus for the form factor alone.
Once all the 360 case and the rest of the Nexus candy gets here I will throw it all up on Ebay. Thankfully there are AKOP ROMS available for the Samsung.

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Yeah I really didn't pay much attention to the screen specs. I assumed the Nexus would be much better than the TAB likely because of the Pixel density if nothing else. I think if Google/Asus would have put ExtSD capability, headset microphone, and maybe even a better front camera, I would keep the Nexus for the form factor alone.
Once all the 360 case and the rest of the Nexus candy gets here I will throw it all up on Ebay. Thankfully there are AKOP ROMS available for the Samsung.
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Just be lucky you weren't like me.
Bought the Acer iconia a110, was cheap and had similar specs to n7 with hdmi out and sdcard slot.
Played with it for a bit....turned out it wasn't for me. Screen looked terrible, it weighed quite abit more than my 7, brought it back (was an 8gb model) to find the nexus 7 calling my name. I bought the 32gb model with no regrets, great device for the price in my opinion.
Edit : I always see people are complaining about the n7 not having a back camera, seriously a tablet is no device meant for mad photography. Get a nikkon or some **** lol. Front camera is 'OK' Good enough for my Skype calls with my lady :thumbup:
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I wouldn't have minded a back camera on the N7 for Skype. My wife travels a lot and when we Skype I use my phone so I can flip back and forth on the cameras so she can see our baby playing and generally being cute. I could also imagine in the business world it would be useful to show clients whatever in a video conference call. Even if it was a cheap 2.0 megapixel camera, that would have been fine.
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I think the N7 is a great tablet, one of the best and considered the best by some users. You can run almost any app/game without any lag and if you overclock the cpu, it will be even more powerful. First, I wanted to buy a more expensive device, but I looked over N7's performance and price and this was my final choice. I don't regret it!

Lol I hope you are okay with waiting forever for a new update and having your device stop being updated after about a year. Sorry but its just the cold hard truth. We will keep getting updates as son as they are released for quite a while but Samsung has quite a reputation for slacking on updates and dropping devices soon after release.
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Nice review, but you left out one of the most important aspects of any comparison: price. You make it sound like the Tab and the N7 are on equal footing in almost all aspects, but when one costs almost twice what the other costs and you leave that fact out, you are doing a disservice to the readers. On that basis, this is not a fair comparison. I bought the N7 over the Tab 2 because I didn't want or need 3G and I didn't want or need to spend close to $500 for what I wanted a tablet for. When I compared all the specs and credible reviews, the N7 was perfect for my needs and budget. It has not disappointed.

The p3100 runs on your att, which is great. Swap Sims and you're good to go. Since this is the GSM you have a lot more Dev support than the CDMA variant. AOKP is there as well as CM. They have it oc to 1.4 as well. If this suits your needs then run with it, more power to you. I like to stay on the newest builds, that's why I chose what I did. After having many phones by HTC and Samsung and constantly having to choose what I can live without (newest build, working camera, reboots, etc.) I bought a galaxy nexus so I don't constantly wait on manufacturer and carrier hold ups (like my note skyrocket evo, evo 3D) and I am happy. Which is why I went with the nexus 7. When I first saw the HTC jetstream and Samsung note 10.1 I had the itch to buy them. Luckily I didn't, the jetstream is and will forever be on honeycomb and there hasn't been any major Dev work for a year. If you don't need to have the latest and greatest as soon as you can get your paws on it then go with the tab, I would have huge regrets if I chose the one that may not get the next release.
Anyways that's my 2¢ either way you can't go wrong if that is what suits your needs in a 7".
On a side note, you can always eBay your note and tab and get the 3g note 10.1 just food for thought
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QUOTE=AFAinHD;36401781]Lol I hope you are okay with waiting forever for a new update and having your device stop being updated after about a year. Sorry but its just the cold hard truth. We will keep getting updates as son as they are released for quite a while but Samsung has quite a reputation for slacking on updates and dropping devices soon after release.
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You can't be serious. There are nightlies available for the Galaxy Tab as well from CyanogenMod and Milestone. I have never had a device where I'd depended on the manufacturer for updates. Always went with developers. And sometimes the updates are not all that good I would never downloaded the OTA 4.2 update on my Nexus 7 after running it on the tab in having all kinds of Bluetooth issues. The first thing it wanted to do when I fired it up was download that update. I did not selective it. I'll let the new user decide.
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Nice review, but you left out one of the most important aspects of any comparison: price. You make it sound like the Tab and the N7 are on equal footing in almost all aspects, but when one costs almost twice what the other costs and you leave that fact out, you are doing a disservice to the readers. On that basis, this is not a fair comparison. I bought the N7 over the Tab 2 because I didn't want or need 3G and I didn't want or need to spend close to $500 for what I wanted a tablet for. When I compared all the specs and credible reviews, the N7 was perfect for my needs and budget. It has not disappointed.
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I completely agree and I mentioned that but on the face of it the Galaxy Tab 7 without 3g would still be a better choice for me for the reasons I indicated. But I only spent $350 dollars for the Tab 3G. Nowhere near $500. I read a lot of reviews and read this area of X DA, for a long time and decided I needed to have them both in front of me to make a decision. Which took about 2 days.
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The p3100 runs on your att, which is great. Swap Sims and you're good to go. Since this is the GSM you have a lot more Dev support than the CDMA variant. AOKP is there as well as CM. They have it oc to 1.4 as well. If this suits your needs then run with it, more power to you. I like to stay on the newest builds, that's why I chose what I did. After having many phones by HTC and Samsung and constantly having to choose what I can live without (newest build, working camera, reboots, etc.) I bought a galaxy nexus so I don't constantly wait on manufacturer and carrier hold ups (like my note skyrocket evo, evo 3D) and I am happy. Which is why I went with the nexus 7. When I first saw the HTC jetstream and Samsung note 10.1 I had the itch to buy them. Luckily I didn't, the jetstream is and will forever be on honeycomb and there hasn't been any major Dev work for a year. If you don't need to have the latest and greatest as soon as you can get your paws on it then go with the tab, I would have huge regrets if I chose the one that may not get the next release.
Anyways that's my 2¢ either way you can't go wrong if that is what suits your needs in a 7".
On a side note, you can always eBay your note and tab and get the 3g note 10.1 just food for thought
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Oh I thought about that Note, 3G 10.1 but I don't want to carry around a tablet that big I bought one of those for my wife for Christmas as a musician she can use it for the playback tracks or sheet music and replace little Acer she's currently using or at least have a good Backup. I would love to see the Note come in a 6 inch phone version. I wouldn't need both the tablet and phone. In the meantime there's no way I would get rid of the Note 2.
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You can't be serious. There are nightlies available for the Galaxy Tab as well from CyanogenMod and Milestone. I have never had a device where I'd depended on the manufacturer for updates. Always went with developers. And sometimes the updates are not all that good I would never downloaded the OTA 4.2 update on my Nexus 7 after running it on the tab in having all kinds of Bluetooth issues. The first thing it wanted to do when I fired it up was download that update. I did not selective it. I'll let the new user decide.
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that's not what i'm saying. We own a flagship device. Not only do we get the updates instantly, google releases the updates on their website with source so developers can make roms with ease. Its a lot easier to make a ROM for the latest update when google has given you the newest update source code already optimized for your device on a silver platter.
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It sounds like you've already thought of all the different angles, and your mind's made up. Like I said fortunately it's not the CDMA version, my friend bought one and there really isn't any Dev love for that thing. Enjoy your tab 2!
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I used to have the galaxy tab 2 7.0. Had a kernel for it and everything. Unfortunately it was by far the slowest device i had ever used. Slower than my S2 single core HTC incredible and the graphics performance was pretty bad too. CM helped by fixing the graphics drivers and eliminating TW bloat, but it didnt help enough to make me happy with it.
But if you enjoy the Tab2 then go ahead and keep it and enjoy it. Don't let these N7 fanboys phase you
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Metallice said:
I used to have the galaxy tab 2 7.0. Had a kernel for it and everything. Unfortunately it was by far the slowest device i had ever used. Slower than my S2 single core HTC incredible and the graphics performance was pretty bad too. CM helped by fixing the graphics drivers and eliminating TW bloat, but it didnt help enough to make me happy with it.
But if you enjoy the Tab2 then go ahead and keep it and enjoy it. Don't let these N7 fanboys phase you
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I'm a google fanboy, being a fanboy of the nexus is just a side effect. Get it right.
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AFAinHD said:
I'm a google fanboy, being a fanboy of the nexus is just a side effect. Get it right.
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A true Google fanboy is a nexus fanboy.
And a true nexus fanboy is a nexus 7 fanboy
And vice-versa.
So one implies the other assuming "true" fanboyism.
Checkmate.

Metallice said:
A true Google fanboy is a nexus fanboy.
And a true nexus fanboy is a nexus 7 fanboy
And vice-versa.
So one implies the other assuming "true" fanboyism.
Checkmate.
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Just because your a nexus 7 fanboy doesn't mean you are a google fanboy. U can like the tablet and not google.
I win
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AFAinHD said:
Just because your a nexus 7 fanboy doesn't mean you are a google fanboy. U can like the tablet and not google.
I win
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Wouldn't that make you an Asus fanboy
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