What's the deal here? Asus makes good stuff they always have. I was happy to hear they were making the nexus 7.
Obviously everyone who is complaining about ASUS has never built a pc like ever. I dunno what everyone expects really. People want Samsung, yet I have to swap out my captivate twice, once for a bad loudspeaker, and once for a bad power button. Both were known issues. HTCs have some claim to be indestructible but guess what? My buddies Droid incredible, not indestructible as his power button died. And seems on the Flyer, bad charging ports were common. My wifes HTC Vivids screen died a month after use. I'm not scared at all of buying htc or Samsung again either but mobile technology just breaks its how it goes. Welcome to the era of cheap Chinese manufacturing!
Honestly my nexus seems fine. I don't see anything wrong with build quality or screen. I do notice the calibration issue but otherwise everything works fine on it and mine is one of the second wave. We're all early adopters too, think about xbox 360 or ps2 owners. All the testing in the world won't reveal all the common issues, so we're all Guinea pigs right now testing and telling Asus and Google what's wrong. And that's okay because I have a warranty and Google's warranty service is awesome.
I'm just sick of the Asus bashing myself. You want cheap shoddy crap? Have Sony make us a tablet!
As for this screen separation issues it'll blow over.
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What's the deal here? Asus makes good stuff they always have. I was happy to hear they were making the nexus 7.
Obviously everyone who is complaining about ASUS has never built a pc like ever. I dunno what everyone expects really. People want Samsung, yet I have to swap out my captivate twice, once for a bad loudspeaker, and once for a bad power button. Both were known issues. HTCs have some claim to be indestructible but guess what? My buddies Droid incredible, not indestructible as his power button died. And seems on the Flyer, bad charging ports were common. My wifes HTC Vivids screen died a month after use. I'm not scared at all of buying htc or Samsung again either but mobile technology just breaks its how it goes. Welcome to the era of cheap Chinese manufacturing!
Honestly my nexus seems fine. I don't see anything wrong with build quality or screen. I do notice the calibration issue but otherwise everything works fine on it and mine is one of the second wave. We're all early adopters too, think about xbox 360 or ps2 owners. All the testing in the world won't reveal all the common issues, so we're all Guinea pigs right now testing and telling Asus and Google what's wrong. And that's okay because I have a warranty and Google's warranty service is awesome.
I'm just sick of the Asus bashing myself. You want cheap shoddy crap? Have Sony make us a tablet!
As for this screen separation issues it'll blow over.
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"Obviously" nothing. I've used Asus before for motherboards, and they were fine. However, their tablet business is a different story. This company has screwed me personally multiple times already with my Transformer Prime, and have screwed many other customers as well. Take a trip over to the Prime forums if you really want to know why there's so much "Asus hate" as you put it. They've earned every bit of it.
Their build quality is on par with the competition. HTC, Samsung, LG, Motorola, hell even Apple. Mobile stuff breaks it is what it is.
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The Nexus 7 is a great device. When reading these forums you have to remember that the negative posts are the vocal minority. This is due to two things:
People that are happy, and have no issues, generally don't post to just say, "hey all is good here." For every poster with a legit issue there are tens of thousands without issues that do not post.
A lot of people are really not that intelligent. They don't understand the technology, they don't bother to read the specs before they order the phone, or have unrealistic expectations.
It's not just ASUS. The same thing happened when the Galaxy Nexus was released. Someone that came in and just scanned the XDA GNex General would have thought the phone was the worst device ever release. In actuality it's just the opposite.
Yeah I want to add that alot of companies aren't great with warranties. Honestly htc I probably the best as I've read stories of people sending in their completely dead flyers with bad charging ports in, rooted and unlocked bootloader and they've fixed the charge port and sent it back. Sony surely wasn't very nice about the disc read error on the ps2, telling customers to just buy another one, and Samsung on numerous occasions to people I've known refused to honor warranties on their tvs. Also my captivate had a bad gps antenna, in fact all galaxy s phones did and Samsung never owned up to that. The grass is always greener I guess...
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When you make 1000's of units- there's bound to be some frustrated customers, it's just sheer numbers, nothing is perfect.
I think Google initially took the most hits for the lack of SD cardslot, the big price difference between the 8 and 16GB units, and the rollout craziness when they had stores withhold units they actually had on hand till their own direct to customer channel got up to speed.
Once defects began to crop up in delivered units- ASUS came under the blade for poor quality control.
ASUS has to take blame for physical defects- that has nothing to do with Google. IIRC- the N7 was pretty much based on a 7" tablet ASUS already had in the works- for a 2012 release Google just had them remove some items (like the bemoaned SD cardslot) and rebadge it as a Google tablet. Google can't be blamed for poor workmanship on the N7, blame ASUS if your tablet isn't satisfactory.
In the end- Google should/will make good for defective units, so it's a bit of an inconvenience for the end-users, but that's how it is with complicated consumer electronics nowadays anyway.
OT- this is a tablet forum, but since the OP mentioned ASUS motherboards- their current product is not what it once was quality wise.
Years ago- I mean 10-12 years ago ASUS motherboards were top notch, with very good quality components that would last forever. As soon as the infamous "bulging capacitors" started showing up in consumer items- they started showing up in ASUS motherboards too. ASUS was particularly difficult to deal with in some of these cases and got out of making good on warranty service when they could. That really tarnished their reputation and opened the door for newer companies to offer their products to computer builders. Soon after that, the rest of the motherboard industry caught up with ASUS, and some have surpassed them in value features for the dollar. ASUS IMO is no longer 'special" as far as their motherboard product- I'd rate them just middle of the road quality wise and low to medium in features for the dollar on their motherboards. Can't remember the last time I used an ASUS MB for one of my computer builds...
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"Obviously" nothing. I've used Asus before for motherboards, and they were fine. However, their tablet business is a different story. This company has screwed me personally multiple times already with my Transformer Prime, and have screwed many other customers as well. Take a trip over to the Prime forums if you really want to know why there's so much "Asus hate" as you put it. They've earned every bit of it.
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If you believe this, then why on earth would you have bought a Nexus 7?
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ASUS makes good desktop and laptop components, but their tablets have been less than stellar. The OG Transformer was great until it was first updated to ICS and then even stock users were getting random reboots and sleep of deaths. The Transformer Prime was good but had the GPS and WiFi issues. I haven't heard anything about the TF301 or TF701 but the Nexus 7 has had it's fair share of issues.
I love ASUS and have owned probably every type of product they have put out, and sadly their tablets just aren't on par with the rest of the company.
My Nexus 7 only has the screen lift issue which is fine with me, but a lot of others are having much more severe issues.
ASUS makes great tablets, they are my favorite, when they aren't defective.
It's purely my opinion and observation. But it seems like ASUS struggles a lot more with their early batches of tablets than others. Sure Apple and Samsung have defects too. But buying an ASUS tablet during it's first month of launch always seems like a much bigger cluster**** than with Apple or Samsung or others.
Not sure why this is, but I think ASUS is rushing too much to get a head start on Samsung and the competitors. TF101 released before the Galaxy Tab 10.1, TF201 was the first ICS tablet, TF701 was almost the first 1920x1200 tablet. And this Nexus 7 was pretty somewhat retooled in just 4 months for Google.
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Their build quality is on par with the competition. HTC, Samsung, LG, Motorola, hell even Apple. Mobile stuff breaks it is what it is.
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I respectfully disagree. I own devices from a variety of companies. Apple's 1st iPad, Motorola Droid, HTC G1 and Nexus One, Samsung's Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus, and Asus' Transformer Prime and Nexus 7. Only two of those devices have had any problems - care to guess which two?
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The Nexus 7 is a great device. When reading these forums you have to remember that the negative posts are the vocal minority. This is due to two things:
People that are happy, and have no issues, generally don't post to just say, "hey all is good here." For every poster with a legit issue there are tens of thousands without issues that do not post.
A lot of people are really not that intelligent. They don't understand the technology, they don't bother to read the specs before they order the phone, or have unrealistic expectations.
It's not just ASUS. The same thing happened when the Galaxy Nexus was released. Someone that came in and just scanned the XDA GNex General would have thought the phone was the worst device ever release. In actuality it's just the opposite.
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Just to be clear, I love my Nexus 7, but that love is a direct result of Google's awesome software. The thing is snappy and stable as hell, unlike my buggy, garbage Transformer Prime w/ its Asus controlled software that lags and ANRs every friggin' second. I bought the N7 expecting to have hardware problems based on my past experience with Asus tablets, and they certainly didn't disappoint (well, they did, but you know what I mean ). The software more than makes up for it though - at least for me.
The good news is that I'll bet anything that Google is done with this crappy company after the N7.
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I love ASUS and have owned probably every type of product they have put out, and sadly their tablets just aren't on par with the rest of the company.
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I think this may be the issue. Those who insist on defending Asus seem to be customers who have bought plenty of Asus products before, but no tablets. Those of us who own a TF101 or TF201 know the deal. Their tablet division does seem to be run very differently from the rest of the company.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5i4l143RIY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
You mean that tablet? Looks identical to it but oddly no front camera, but it has a rear camera.
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The Nexus 7 is a great device. When reading these forums you have to remember that the negative posts are the vocal minority. This is due to two things:
People that are happy, and have no issues, generally don't post to just say, "hey all is good here." For every poster with a legit issue there are tens of thousands without issues that do not post.
A lot of people are really not that intelligent. They don't understand the technology, they don't bother to read the specs before they order the phone, or have unrealistic expectations.
It's not just ASUS. The same thing happened when the Galaxy Nexus was released. Someone that came in and just scanned the XDA GNex General would have thought the phone was the worst device ever release. In actuality it's just the opposite.
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Hey all is good here. Received mine last week. It's mittens!
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I respectfully disagree. I own devices from a variety of companies. Apple's 1st iPad, Motorola Droid, HTC G1 and Nexus One, Samsung's Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus, and Asus' Transformer Prime and Nexus 7. Only two of those devices have had any problems - care to guess which two?
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To call you out, the iPad 1 had horrible screen bleed. The Motorola Droid was locked (still is?). The Nexus One didn't have multitouch (it did but was completely broken), and the Galaxy Nexus has a problem with grays on the screen (visible lines) and had multitouch issues similar to the N7 now. The iPad3 gets super hot and burning people. The iPhone 4 was ruined by a signal shorting metal housing.
I also owned a Transformer TF101 was nearly perfect aside from some occasional case creaking.
I've owned all of the above and I know first hand. Nothing is perfect.
The Transformer Prime primarily had issues with wireless signals because of the metal backing, hence why the new models are plastic. I don't know if there were other problems. I remember something about GPS too, which isn't bad considering you don't use GPS on a 10" tablet very often. Not sure if they fixed that.
Asus DID have problems with the PRIME but all of their other devices really set the bar. Their device support (software patches; upgrades) is the best I've ever seen to date. I've gotten more updates on my TF101 then from Google on my Galaxy Nexus. It's even getting JB. No other tablet that was launched on Honeycomb (maybe Xoom?) is seeing JB released officially. I don't even think the Samsung 10.1 Tabs even got to ICS.
Needless to say, the issues with the N7 are subtle compared to just most of the devices you mentioned.
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To call you out, the iPad 1 had horrible screen bleed. The Motorola Droid was locked (still is?). The Nexus One didn't have multitouch (it did but was completely broken), and the Galaxy Nexus has a problem with grays on the screen (visible lines) and had multitouch issues similar to the N7 now. The iPad3 gets super hot and burning people. The iPhone 4 was ruined by a signal shorting metal housing.
I also owned a Transformer TF101 was nearly perfect aside from some occasional case creaking.
I've owned all of the above and I know first hand. Nothing is perfect.
The Transformer Prime primarily had issues with wireless signals because of the metal backing, hence why the new models are plastic. I don't know if there were other problems. I remember something about GPS too, which isn't bad considering you don't use GPS on a 10" tablet very often. Not sure if they fixed that.
Asus DID have problems with the PRIME but all of their other devices really set the bar. Their device support (software patches; upgrades) is the best I've ever seen to date. I've gotten more updates on my TF101 then from Google on my Galaxy Nexus. It's even getting JB. No other tablet that was launched on Honeycomb (maybe Xoom?) is seeing JB released officially. I don't even think the Samsung 10.1 Tabs even got to ICS.
Needless to say, the issues with the N7 are subtle compared to just most of the devices you mentioned.
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Never had screen bleed on my iPad1 (probably because Apple quickly rectified the problem once finding out about it, unlike Asus). The Droid 1 was never locked. Nexus One multitouch issues were overblown. I'm not familiar with your two complaints about the Galaxy Nexus, as I have 2 of them (wife and myself) and both are perfect.
I will say this - it does seem that the Prime is Asus' biggest mistake, and that's the device that has really formed my opinions of Asus. Their device support on the Prime SUCKS. They have an Asus rep keep promising updates here on the XDA forums, but nothing comes. And the few that have come have actually borked the Prime more than before. As for GPS, it doesn't matter if YOU don't have a use for it. THey ADVERTISED IT, it didn't work (also because of the terribly designed metal back plate), and then they "fixed" it by removing GPS functionality from the box! Can you believe that?! They finally released a "GPS" dongle for the Prime, but you can't charge the Prime when it's plugged in, so forget about using it on a long road trip.
Then you have the RMA issues. Do a quick search for RMA and CID (customer-induced damage) re: Asus and their Prime if you want to see how they treat their customers.
Sorry, but I absolutely will not budge on what a terrible company Asus is - at least as far as tablets go.
I've never had any more trouble with Asus products then others, I'd guess the majority of components are sourced from the same Chinese manufacturers which supply other companies such as Samsung, HTC, etc. Given that most of the issues seems to stem from overtightened screws and misapplication of adhesive the major problem appears to be with Asus's (or whichever company they contract out to) quality control. Which is probably going to be a problem that begins to affect more companies as consumers keep demanding lower prices.
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Never had screen bleed on my iPad1 (probably because Apple quickly rectified the problem once finding out about it, unlike Asus). The Droid 1 was never locked. Nexus One multitouch issues were overblown. I'm not familiar with your two complaints about the Galaxy Nexus, as I have 2 of them (wife and myself) and both are perfect.
I will say this - it does seem that the Prime is Asus' biggest mistake, and that's the device that has really formed my opinions of Asus. Their device support on the Prime SUCKS. They have an Asus rep keep promising updates here on the XDA forums, but nothing comes. And the few that have come have actually borked the Prime more than before. As for GPS, it doesn't matter if YOU don't have a use for it. THey ADVERTISED IT, it didn't work (also because of the terribly designed metal back plate), and then they "fixed" it by removing GPS functionality from the box! Can you believe that?! They finally released a "GPS" dongle for the Prime, but you can't charge the Prime when it's plugged in, so forget about using it on a long road trip.
Then you have the RMA issues. Do a quick search for RMA and CID (customer-induced damage) re: Asus and their Prime if you want to see how they treat their customers.
Sorry, but I absolutely will not budge on what a terrible company Asus is - at least as far as tablets go.
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I wouldn't call Asus terrible on the tablet front. Not the best is better suited but they aren't terrible by a long shot, they release the best tablets before anyone else, but their QC is subpar.
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I wouldn't call Asus terrible on the tablet front. Not the best is better suited but they aren't terrible by a long shot, they release the best tablets before anyone else, but their QC is subpar.
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"Release the best tablets?" I don't know, man. The Prime is beautiful, but the thing is practically a paper weight. The piss-poor I/O performance and constant ANRs make it just about unusable for anything other than light web browsing. I'm not exaggerating either. You can check out the Prime forums if you don't believe me.
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"Release the best tablets?" I don't know, man. The Prime is beautiful, but the thing is practically a paper weight. The piss-poor I/O performance and constant ANRs make it just about unusable for anything other than light web browsing. I'm not exaggerating either. You can check out the Prime forums if you don't believe me.
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I already asked this, but you still don't answer. If you believe Asus makes garbage and you have "evidence/proof/personal experience" then why did you buy an N7? If you don't have an N7 because of the pure awesomeness of your iPad, then what the hell are you even on the N7 forums for?
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My first unit has screen lift which is pretty minor, but it also has dead audio jack (one side) and touch issues (one touch turns into two, causing random zooming and problems in Swype). I have had good luck with asus pc components but this is not very impressive.
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I already asked this, but you still don't answer. If you believe Asus makes garbage and you have "evidence/proof/personal experience" then why did you buy an N7? If you don't have an N7 because of the pure awesomeness of your iPad, then what the hell are you even on the N7 forums for?
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Sorry if you asked it - I didn't see it.
My most hated tech company is Asus. However, my most beloved tech company is Google, and I specifically love their Nexus line. I own every Nexus device - I even imported the Galaxy Nexus from Europe before it went on sale here. I'm an unapologetic Google/Nexus fan boy. So as you can imagine, Google using Asus for their first Nexus tablet put me in a tough spot. I held out for a week after it was released, but finally decided that it was worth it to bite the bullet and get the tablet despite it being made by Asus, especially considering the low $200 price point, and especially considering that it would be supported by Google and not Asus. And I love the N7. Sure, I had to install some shims and crazy glue the screen, but I love the thing. I'm just speaking the truth about Asus. Sorry if you don't like it.
Also, not sure what you're talking about re: "the pure awesomeness of your iPad" comment. Just because I'm ripping on Asus doesn't mean I'm an Apple fanboy. On the contrary, I'm a huge Android fanboy. I have the original iPad back from when it was released, before Android tablets existed. I don't even use it anymore. Very odd comment on your part, IMHO.
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For folks who have owned multiple Nexus branded products (Nexus One, Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7) - What can I expect in terms of quality from my first Nexus product? What have been your experiences as you moved from one Nexus product to other? I know quality can be applied at many levels, be it the product build, performance, software etc - apart from the pure GOOG experience.
Will saying that I will only buy nexus phones tell you anything about 'quality'?
Edit: And Nexus products are what google themselves use, so you know its pretty much top of the line for that moment.
Edit2: And I have had Nexus one, Nexus S, and now Galaxy Nexus.
Nexus brand or not - this tablet is made by Asus.
Look to the Asus line of recent products for an indication of quality.
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Nexus brand or not - this tablet is made by Asus.
Look to the Asus line of recent products for an indication of quality.
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300 got rave reviews, tech sites/bloggers stoked over infinity pad. even Anandtech impressed. prime had good reviews but there are some that had issues. which is expected with any device.
If Google themselves found Asus to be competent enough to build their very first Nexus tablet, that shows Google has extreme confidence in Asus. I'm not worried. I had a satisfying experience with my first ASUS product, which is the Transformer Prime. Been loving it ever since last Dec. since it was so good, I will go with Asus again on the 16gb Nexus tablet I pre ordered already. I have no doubts new Nexus 7 will be a hit. Reviewers already said the build quality is superb and feels high end. then we know the software and chipset flies on this 7in.
all reviewers so far said this device feels and performs like a high end one. even the display is really good with high dpi count.
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Will saying that I will only buy nexus phones tell you anything about 'quality'?
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Of course not, but these being branded as Nexus and GOOG using multiple manufacturers when they release these devices, you as an owner of these various products would be able to pin point about "quality" - or the differentiator from other products (apart from pure GOOG experience)?
No?
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Of course not, but these being branded as Nexus and GOOG using multiple manufacturers when they release these devices, you as an owner of these various products would be able to pin point about "quality" - or the differentiator from other products (apart from pure GOOG experience)?
No?
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Any Nexus product, google works closely with the manufacture (supposedly), to give the best android experience. All my Nexus devices have worked how they should, and have been very pleased with the build quality, looks, and functionality. BUT like you said that's all subjective.
So really, the only quality you can probably go off of, is...... Nexus is what Google themselves use to develop and further the android platform..
This is tough. I own the Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, and Asus Transformer Prime.
The Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus were both made by Samsung, and I feel the quality of both of them were GREAT. Some complained they felt a little "plasticky," but I had no hardware problems at all with either.
The Prime...well....how do I put this....let me try it this way:
WORST. ELECTRONIC PURCHASE. OF. MY LIFE.
The problems in design (GPS didn't work b/c of the metal back and their "fix" was to remove GPS as a feature - the WiFi performance is also terrible), the low-quality hardware used (plenty of crappy displays with light bleed, LCD mura, and dead/stuck pixels), and the piss poor service (updates keep fixing one issue and breaking 3 others, RMA process that screws customers) have all left an incredibly sour taste in my mouth.
With that said, Google will be supporting this device, not Asus, so my service complaints mean nothing in regards to the Nexus 7. And I would hope that since this is Google's baby, they're keeping a close eye on it and Asus won't have a garbage design and garbage parts as a result, but we shall see.
I've had all the Google Experience Devices + all Nexus phones, build quality ranges by company. The reviews are good and Asus has been making some quality stuff as others have already mentioned.
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Nexus brand or not - this tablet is made by Asus.
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This right here. My Samsung Galaxy Nexus has been great. Personally being an owner of a 201 with issues (Dead GPS , wifi/BT issues), I'm going to wait on the Asus Nexus.. their brand is tarnished to me with what I've went through with them.
My Nexus S was a phenomenal device. I loved that damn phone. I plan on going back to a Nexus phone when the next gen model comes out.
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This right here. My Samsung Galaxy Nexus has been great. Personally being an owner of a 201 with issues (Dead GPS , wifi/BT issues), I'm going to wait on the Asus Nexus.. their brand is tarnished to me with what I've went through with them.
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It was all because of a design decision.
I had a 201 for about a week. It didn't have all those problems. My GPS would lock 11 birds if I was outside. I had decent wifi. I just couldn't stomach their repsonse to real problems. If they had just put an RF window on the back like the infinity pad, it wouldn't have had any issues. Since it was a one piece stamped frame/back cutting and making new parts would have cost too much.
I doubt if any manufacturer will put a metal back on a tablet again.
Asus sure seems to have learned with the RF-transparent back on the Nexus 7.
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It was all because of a design decision.
I had a 201 for about a week. It didn't have all those problems. My GPS would lock 11 birds if I was outside. I had decent wifi. I just couldn't stomach their repsonse to real problems. If they had just put an RF window on the back like the infinity pad, it wouldn't have had any issues. Since it was a one piece stamped frame/back cutting and making new parts would have cost too much.
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I know all this already. The design decision doesn't bother me, in fact I bought it partly because of the looks. My problem is with the tablet not functioning 100% the way its supposed to compared to my other Android devices.
As for the company in general, don't even get me started, If it wasn't for me starting and maintaining a list and then sending it to the Asus product managers that check the 201 forums (and a certain user who has their ear who posted in here earlier) , at least 75 users including myself would probably still be waiting for our GPS extension kits when we signed up the first day, you can do a search of posts I created if you're interested in that whole debacle.
Main point I'm trying to make in a thread about quality, when I spend my money on a product I expect it to work. And my experience with their products has been far from what it is with my other devices.
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I know all this already. The design decision doesn't bother me, in fact I bought it partly because of the looks. My problem is with the tablet not functioning 100% the way its supposed to compared to my other Android devices.
As for the company in general, don't even get me started, If it wasn't for me starting and maintaining a list and then sending it to the Asus product managers that check the 201 forums (and a certain user who has their ear who posted in here earlier) , at least 75 users including myself would probably still be waiting for our GPS extension kits when we signed up the first day, you can do a search of posts I created if you're interested in that whole debacle.
Main point I'm trying to make in a thread about quality, when I spend my money on a product I expect it to work. And my experience with their products has been far from what it is with my other devices.
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I think you're being way too hard on Asus. Whether you believe it or not, they make amazing products. Their laptops are typically top of the line while also being cheaper than most of the competition and usually better. The original Transformer was the best tablet on the market until this year. Asus is a wonderful company. So they messed up with one device? Apparently they did try to fix it. They issued the GPS dongles to help fix the issue and apologized for the mess they created. And all I've heard from others is that they have fantastic customer service.
I'm glad that Google chose Asus to make the Nexus 7. They really were the most qualified. The original Transformer was easily the best last-generation tablet and the Infinity will be the best current-generation tablet. Google made a great choice.
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I think you're being way too hard on Asus. Whether you believe it or not, they make amazing products.
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Well you spend $500+ on a tablet that performs worse than my dual core devices, and deal with the problems with Asus that I have and you would probably see it differently. Sure there are those who have had positive experiences, but I know I'm not the only one with my views, just spend a little time in the other forums. In the end the choice is yours.
If I had it to do all over again, would I rather spend $250 on an N7 than $650 on my 201 and dock? Absolutely.
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My Nexus S was a phenomenal device. I loved that damn phone. I plan on going back to a Nexus phone when the next gen model comes out.
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I agree. I am patiently awaiting the next Nexus phone.
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Well you spend $500+ on a tablet that performs worse than my dual core devices, and deal with the problems with Asus that I have and you would probably see it differently. Sure there are those who have had positive experiences, but I know I'm not the only one with my views, just spend a little time in the other forums. In the end the choice is yours.
If I had it to do all over again, would I rather spend $250 on an N7 than $650 on my 201 and dock? Absolutely.
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Oh, I'm not saying that you shouldn't be mad. If I were you, I would be too. I'm just saying that you shouldn't bash the whole company and their products for the one faulty one that you happen to own.
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Oh, I'm not saying that you shouldn't be mad. If I were you, I would be too. I'm just saying that you shouldn't bash the whole company and their products for the one faulty one that you happen to own.
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Hah, if you would have actually read my post you would see I'm not "bashing" them on the device alone, but their service I recieved with the product as well. It shouldn't take me over a month to get into contact with someone to fix an issue... Again, you have your views, and I have mine... and I'm simply sharing my experience with the only Asus product I've wasted my money on so others can decide whether Asus quality is something they should spend their hard earned money on.
I'm really not trying to turn this thread into a pissing match. If you like Asus, and have had a good experience with them, that's awesome. I have not. And as much as I want to jump on an N7, the manufacturer Google went with more than likely cost them my sale as well as others who feel the same way I do. Honestly if you don't like my opinion, just add me to your ignore list.
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Hah, if you would have actually read my post you would see I'm not "bashing" them on the device alone, but their service I recieved with the product as well. It shouldn't take me over a month to get into contact with someone to fix an issue... Again, you have your views, and I have mine... and I'm simply sharing my experience with the only Asus product I've wasted my money on so others can decide whether Asus quality is something they should spend their hard earned money on.
I'm really not trying to turn this thread into a pissing match. If you like Asus, and have had a good experience with them, that's awesome. I have not. And as much as I want to jump on an N7, the manufacturer Google went with more than likely cost them my sale as well as others who feel the same way I do. Honestly if you don't like my opinion, just add me to your ignore list.
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I definitely wasn't trying to start a pissing match, so I'm sorry if it seemed like I was. I'm just saying that out of all the Asus products I have heard of and/or actually used, the Prime is the only device than anyone has had a massive amount of trouble with. Otherwise, their track record is pretty much flawless.
I think for me the real selling point of this tablet is the Google name and the high visibility of the N7 launch as their entrance into the tablet market. The Nexus line is the flagship for Google and I've only ever heard good reviews from friends who own them.
I've owned devices with user bases too small to force a response on hardware issues and that's not going to be an issue here. If there is some sort of hardware or software fault, it's going to get publicity and it's going to get fixed.
Google...basically gently rose up from the Shadows. Flexed it's muscles. And instantly KO'd every company making ****ty small tablets.
In one move. One fell swoop.
Speak softly and carrying a big stick. Well Played Google.
While I know we are a bit upset over the sd slot, and hdmi. You've got to admit, this makes pretty much any other 200 tablet a piece of garbage now.
Thoughts?
Lawyers everywhere are celebrating the arrival of the Nexus 7.
Google represents deep pockets, and every two-bit company with ripped-off patents will be looking to cash in.
Nah, they just like to set the price and standards on each subsequent generation of android devices. Asus was going to release it regardless, Google just changed the standard of such devices taking out what we would call standard features that most people won't need and lowing the price on said standard while keeping the same performance.
gotta give google some credit... they have the technology and know how to use it
While I was hoping it would have the original features of the memo pad as revealed as ces I'm thrilled by this tablet. I think having its software come directly from Google and carrying the nexus moniker more than makes up for the hardware changes.
This tablet was an excellent move by Google because not only is it great hardware wise, but the 7 inch market is where they can build a foothold on the tablet market.
I'm happy it is priced so competitively but to scoff at other companies giving less for more money bothers me. Google isn't making profit off this tablet. They hope to raise revenue from play store purchases, etc, but other companies that produce these need to make money off what they build. I don't begrudge them for that. In the end it would be nice for other stockish android tablet makers to either commit to keeping devices on the latest OS, or release source for drivers, etc when they discontinue support for them so that unofficial builds could continue.
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Nah, they just like to set the price and standards on each subsequent generation of android devices. Asus was going to release it regardless, Google just changed the standard of such devices taking out what we would call standard features that most people won't need and lowing the price on said standard while keeping the same performance.
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Let's just hope other oems will follow this standard of pure android and follow the supposed 5 nexus devices this fall. I love my phone but I love pure Google also
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Google...basically gently rose up from the Shadows. Flexed it's muscles. And instantly KO'd every company making ****ty small tablets.
In one move. One fell swoop.
Speak softly and carrying a big stick. Well Played Google.
While I know we are a bit upset over the sd slot, and hdmi. You've got to admit, this makes pretty much any other 200 tablet a piece of garbage now.
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They bought the rights to sell the ASUS ME370T rebranded as the nexus 7 with features removed.
They didn't KO ASUS.
That being said, I'm praying to Moore that their 10" nexus 10 is a rebranded infinity pad from ASUS.
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That being said, I'm praying to Moore that their 10" nexus 10 is a rebranded infinity pad from ASUS.
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no way at the rumored $300 price point. plus infinity is already released. no way you will get true HD 1080P nexus tablet with most powerful tegra3 variant(highest clocked, higher voltage, higher clocked gpu, bandwidth on controller increased) for that cheap. we can dream though..lol.
I see a nexus 10 model being closer to transformer 300 minus some features to lower price point. nexus 7 already uses exact same tegra3 chipset as in transformer 300, which is the T30L variant. So Asus/Google could build a Nexus based on that design. minus some features. corners have to be cut to make the cheaper price point.
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Asus was going to release it regardless, Google just changed the standard of such devices taking out what we would call standard features that most people won't need and lowing the price on said standard while keeping the same performance.
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Yeah, google's only real contribution here was the hype (not insignifigant). And it's price for meddling was removal of features (like sd card) Asus was probably willing to include.
To be honest, I'm not sure it was worth it. And we can never really know, short of travelling to that alternate reality where Asus did release that $250 memo.
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Yeah, google's only real contribution here was the hype (not insignifigant). And it's price for meddling was removal of features (like sd card) Asus was probably willing to include.
To be honest, I'm not sure it was worth it. And we can never really know, short of travelling to that alternate reality where Asus did release that $250 memo.
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More realistic for it to have been $350 and have ICS instead of Jelly Bean.
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Yeah, google's only real contribution here was the hype (not insignifigant). And it's price for meddling was removal of features (like sd card) Asus was probably willing to include.
To be honest, I'm not sure it was worth it. And we can never really know, short of travelling to that alternate reality where Asus did release that $250 memo.
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More realistic for it to have been $350 and have ICS instead of Jelly Bean.
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I'm pretty sure his 250 quote came directly from Asus back when they announced they where releasing it.
I think N7 is the best move that Google could make with Android tablets. With N7, Google can
1. increase the market share, which is lagging iPad.
2. preempt the 7" iPad mini
3. kill cheap android tablets
4. set a standard to avoid fragmentation
5. diminish perception of android tablet = kindle fire
6. stepping stone for play store's long term success
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It might also bring down the price of some of the higher end tablets (are people really willing to pay an extra $xxx just to get feature xxx?)
Please don't think I'm defending lower hardware specs, but the truth is that Nexus devices are great for their SOFTWARE. Other than the Nexus One, these devices have been great, with good hardware but typically not bleeding edge. They contain enough to do what Google sets out to do. I used to be mad about this but now I'm quite happy. There's more to having a great device than the absolute edge of technology. When I got the Nexus S it was the best Gingerbread phone until Google release the next phone... the Galaxy Nexus. I have the GSM Galaxy Nexus now (ordered int'l in Jan) and though it wasn't the end all of hardware when it came out on paper... it is STILL the best ICS device as well. Now on JB, it simply flies. Why is this?
Simply, the way software and hardware are integrated, it's at Apple levels, dare I say. If you look at superior hardware phones like the One X and SGS III, there are hiccups and hangups or other things created by their custom UI's, etc. Plus, the software is written by Google for the Nexus devices to run well.
I'm not saying the galaxy nexus or other nexus device will have the highest benchmarks or play Temple Run the best, but they tend to function as a whole better than their brethren.
The Nexus 7 seems to be the same way. Jellybean is amazing. As Morfic stated, it makes ICS seem like Vista to Jellybean's Windows 7. It may be basically the same kernel, but it does everything it's predecessor does, better and more. Since they hired Mathias Duarte, I believe Android has not just the most functional OS of mobiles, but also the most cohesive and sharpest looking. All of this is my opinion of course, but I remember when GB came out and compared my Nexus S to the iPhone 4 and thought it still LOOKED a little rough. Now, in addition to it doing more, it looks and feels better as well.
My hope is that the Nexus 7 and Google's focus on this device will bring better Tablet UI apps and allows them to take market share from Apple the way they have done the past few years with their phones.
I think they killed all competition in the 7" Android market entirely I'm guessing, and maybe will do the same to the bigger Android tablets if the rumored 10" is released.
Unfortunately, I think this will cause other companies to not build 7" tablets with better specs since most people aren't going to pay much more to have them.. (Like video out, micro sd, haptic feedback, etc.)
The Toshiba Excite 7.7 16gb @ $500? Dead, dead, dead. Only big difference is microsd and AMOLED. And timely updates from Toshiba? Not likely.
Galaxy Tab 7.7? Hard to say. Only the Verizon model is available directly in the US, so maybe it will hang on since it has cell radio, MHL, haptic feedback, microsd, AMOLED, etc. But then again it's over DOUBLE the price. (Disclaimer: I love mine. Verizon, where is my ICS update????)
There are 10" tablets out there for about the same price as the N7, running ICS, with SD cards etc. And they'll sell about 3 of them - because 'joe public' doesn't buy noname chinese hardware that's (in their mind) 'too cheap'.
A google tablet, on the store shelves next to everything else, with google's name on it - they'll buy that. Then you start to shift a few. Then other manufacturers can start to shift a few, too, because suddenly people have friends with an android tablet and they want one too. 'Not an ipad' ceases to be the death blow that it is currently.
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I think N7 is the best move that Google could make with Android tablets. With N7, Google can
1. increase the market share, which is lagging iPad.
2. preempt the 7" iPad mini
3. kill cheap android tablets
4. set a standard to avoid fragmentation
5. diminish perception of android tablet = kindle fire
6. stepping stone for play store's long term success
anything I missed?
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a slap in apples face for their overpriced ipad and marketing condescending commercials :good:
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There are 10" tablets out there for about the same price as the N7, running ICS, with SD cards etc. And they'll sell about 3 of them - because 'joe public' doesn't buy noname chinese hardware that's (in their mind) 'too cheap'.
A google tablet, on the store shelves next to everything else, with google's name on it - they'll buy that. Then you start to shift a few. Then other manufacturers can start to shift a few, too, because suddenly people have friends with an android tablet and they want one too. 'Not an ipad' ceases to be the death blow that it is currently.
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But these cheap tablets... The usually have no support, and no software updates, etc. That's also a huge reason ppl don't go buy them.
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Jayrod1980 said:
Please don't think I'm defending lower hardware specs, but the truth is that Nexus devices are great for their SOFTWARE. Other than the Nexus One, these devices have been great, with good hardware but typically not bleeding edge. They contain enough to do what Google sets out to do. I used to be mad about this but now I'm quite happy. There's more to having a great device than the absolute edge of technology. When I got the Nexus S it was the best Gingerbread phone until Google release the next phone... the Galaxy Nexus. I have the GSM Galaxy Nexus now (ordered int'l in Jan) and though it wasn't the end all of hardware when it came out on paper... it is STILL the best ICS device as well. Now on JB, it simply flies. Why is this?
Simply, the way software and hardware are integrated, it's at Apple levels, dare I say. If you look at superior hardware phones like the One X and SGS III, there are hiccups and hangups or other things created by their custom UI's, etc. Plus, the software is written by Google for the Nexus devices to run well.
I'm not saying the galaxy nexus or other nexus device will have the highest benchmarks or play Temple Run the best, but they tend to function as a whole better than their brethren.
The Nexus 7 seems to be the same way. Jellybean is amazing. As Morfic stated, it makes ICS seem like Vista to Jellybean's Windows 7. It may be basically the same kernel, but it does everything it's predecessor does, better and more. Since they hired Mathias Duarte, I believe Android has not just the most functional OS of mobiles, but also the most cohesive and sharpest looking. All of this is my opinion of course, but I remember when GB came out and compared my Nexus S to the iPhone 4 and thought it still LOOKED a little rough. Now, in addition to it doing more, it looks and feels better as well.
My hope is that the Nexus 7 and Google's focus on this device will bring better Tablet UI apps and allows them to take market share from Apple the way they have done the past few years with their phones.
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I agree with you on some of the points but One x and SGSIII are not hick ups. One x might had some problems earlier but SGSIII never had any problem and it is the best ICS phone not Galaxy Nexus. I sold my Galaxy Nexus 2 weeks back and this was the first phone which does not make me feel wow about anything at all. It was doing everything at acceptable level but best at nothing. I agree that at $350 price tag it is a nice phone but I bought this phone only because I was short of money. Google did well with Nexus one, Nexus S and they were indeed best phones but Galaxy Nexus was just okay sort of phone even when it was released last year. I think the new Nexus would be much better which hopefully would be released later this year.
On the other hand what you have said about Nexus 7 on the other hand is true. Even though I have iPad 3 64GB with 4G but I understand what google is trying to do with Nexus 7 and I love what they did. I was looking for a good 7 inch tablet and there was nothing good in the market in 7 inch beside toshiba 7.7 but it was too pricey. Who is going to pay more than 500 for a 7.7 inch android tablet? Google on the other hand done very well by introducing Nexus 7 only for 200 and nothing can beat it at this price point or even nothing with 300 more price tag can beat it. It is even better than Asus Pad TF300 which cost way more than Nexus 7. The 7 inch form factor is also great and google made a very good choice.
After some time playing with the Nexus 7 I felt compelled to write my impressions. This device was ordered for my mom to use for web browsing and email.
I read a lot of reviews from several tech sites as well as some forums before deciding the Nexus 7 was the right device for her.
The reviews around the tech sites were almost all positives regarding the quality and price on this device, on the other hand, the reviews from several forum members where not that great.
People where reporting issues ranging from screen separation, blown speakers and death pixels.
Tech sites mentioned the build quality of the device and the almost leather like feeling of the back surface as good points.
Almost all of them concluded that this was the tablet to get at this price point. Some of them even went as far as saying that they haven't used their iPads after getting the Nexus 7 (People Such as TWiT hosts).
All of those great reviews, even from Apple pundits, made me beleive this was a great tablet for its price point. So today we finally received the device. The first problem was noticed as soon as we opened the device, the screen was separated and lifted above the silver bezel from the left side, so much that you can hear it flexing when touching it.
The second problem was noticed when the screen was turned on. Right on the center a pixel stuck on red color, so annoying that no matter what backgroun you use, it still shows.
I own a Motorola Xoom 4G/LTE and the Nexus 7 compared to it feels like a toy. I know they are not in the same price range, but the screen on the Xoom has the feel of hard tick glass that the Nexus lacks. I don't see how the back of the Nexus is supposed to feel like leather as mentioned by some reviewers either.
I already did the required steps to exange the device for a new one. I just hope that the replacement comes free of issues, even after reading from so many members over at XDA that it may not be the case.
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I want to give an update on my experience with this device. The RMA process was completed and the replacement tablet came without issues.
My Mom has been using it ever since receiving it and I check the device once in a while just to make sure the lift screen problem is not present.
I have to say that after using the replacement unit my opinion on this tablet has changed for good. You get great value for the price and ,being a Nexus device, the assurance to that it will receive updates on time.
My original opinion was based on a defective unit, so I felt the necessity to post this update for any person still reading this section of the forums prior to making their decision to purchase one.
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What a bummer dude, did you order it through the Play Store?
yes I did ordered from the play store.
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Honestly, even with screen flicker, this is ten times better than my iPad 2. I'm putting my iPad up on eBay tomorrow night and I'm proud to do it. I'm using a ZAGGKeys Flex Keyboard to type this post, I LOVE my N7. If you want to check out my review it's over in the accessories section of the forum.
I really hope you give the N7 another chance. This tab kicks @$$, literally.
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yes I did ordered from the play store.
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When did you place the order?
Nxxx said:
Honestly, even with screen flicker, this is ten times better than my iPad 2. I'm putting my iPad up on eBay tomorrow night and I'm proud to do it. I'm using a ZAGGKeys Flex Keyboard to type this post, I LOVE my N7. If you want to check out my review it's over in the accessories section of the forum.
I really hope you give the N7 another chance. This tab kicks @$$, literally.
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I totally love the device. the size makes more sense to me than my 10.1 inches Xoom. I just want an issue free device.
After reading so many posts about people receiving a flawless device makes me think the one I received was a lemon.
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Saturday 21 and arrived Wednesday 25
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Sorry that happened to you but JOIN THE CLUB. Yes we all know Google and Asus screwed the pooch on the launch of the n7. No need to start a crying thread. And your complain about the quality? Dude its a 200 dollar device. Its quality for that price! So stop whining and bae will us ALL who had a detective device. This tablet blows your Xoom out the water.
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Hi mate, I feel sorry for you that your Nexus 7 had those problems. I received mine yesterday (16 GB version) and it is perfectly fine. Hope you'll get the replacement soon.
I'm happy with the device so far and my Transformer Prime will surely be jealous. Nexus 7 is small and light enough to carry around and to read in bed, what I can't do with the Prime because of its size and weight. 7" is my thing and definitely not the 10".
The GPS is very good. After a few seconds 11 satellites were found (note: clear sky today in London!). Overall the OS is more responsive than the Prime. So far there is for example no message "Web browser is not responding" that I sometimes get on Prime since the latest update.
The only annoying thing with Nexus 7 is that the home screen is only in portrait mode. But I'm going to root it and I can say goodbye to that annoyance.
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Sorry that happened to you but JOIN THE CLUB. Yes we all know Google and Asus screwed the pooch on the launch of the n7. No need to start a crying thread. And your complain about the quality? Dude its a 200 dollar device. Its quality for that price! So stop whining and bae will us ALL who had a detective device. This tablet blows your Xoom out the water.
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I'll wait until the replacement comes to see. My Xoom has 64GB Total storage and 4G LTE connectivity, so for me, the N7 can't fulfill my tablet needs yet. But recognize that my mom seems to be the perfect candidate for it with its 8GB and size.
If my replacement comes without issues, I'll pull the trigger on a second one with 16GB cause my wife liked the form factor. I've been a Google supporter for a long time, heck I paid 800+ on day one for and unlocked Xoom to dive early on this android tablet adventure so I'm totally on their camp, but I expect at least a working device.
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I think you should have gone with an iPad unless your Mom is one of the exceptions and real tech savvy and computer oriented. I hope this doesn't read as me being negative, I understand being upset and I'm not trying to come off as rude at all.
Don't get me wrong I love my nexus 7 and I love Android especially on a quad core tablet. I also have the Asus transformer prime and its one of my favorite devices ever. But when it comes to buying for parents, if looking for something amazing out of the box and simple and easy, I don't think the first batch of first gen nexus 7 tablets is the best choice in most cases.
I know you already bought yours and everything but since you wanted to inform others I just thought I would share my experiences that I've learned along the way.
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I think you should have gone with an iPad unless your Mom is one of the exceptions and real tech savvy and computer oriented. I hope this doesn't read as me being negative, I understand being upset and I'm not trying to come off as rude at all.
Don't get me wrong I love my nexus 7 and I love Android especially on a quad core tablet. I also have the Asus transformer prime and its one of my favorite devices ever. But when it comes to buying for parents, if looking for something amazing out of the box and simple and easy, I don't think the first batch of first gen nexus 7 tablets is the best choice in most cases.
I know you already bought yours and everything but since you wanted to inform others I just thought I would share my experiences that I've learned along the way.
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She is pretty much OS agnostic, she can find its way around on the two computer they have at home, even though one is running Slitaz Linux, she understand the basic concepts to be able to figure it out where the browser, email and games are no matter the OS.
I took it to Best Buy to see the iPads and she played with it already, but she also played with two tablets 7 inches in size from Samsung and Acer, and decided that was a better form factor.
She basically wanted something to use out of the house for some games she plays and on the house while not on the PC. The problem here is with the device being defective rather than hard for her to use.
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Shame you received a device with hardware defects - no user should ever except it as such, get it replaced and enjoy a perfect device.
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Lare2 said:
After some time playing with the Nexus 7 I felt compelled to write my impressions. This device was ordered for my mom to use for web browsing and email.
I read a lot of reviews from several tech sites as well as some forums before deciding the Nexus 7 was the right device for her.
The reviews around the tech sites were almost all positives regarding the quality and price on this device, on the other hand, the reviews from several forum members where not that great.
People where reporting issues ranging from screen separation, blown speakers and death pixels.
Tech sites mentioned the build quality of the device and the almost leather like feeling of the back surface as good points.
Almost all of them concluded that this was the tablet to get at this price point. Some of them even went as far as saying that they haven't used their iPads after getting the Nexus 7 (People Such as TWiT hosts).
All of those great reviews, even from Apple pundits, made me beleive this was a great tablet for its price point. So today we finally received the device. The first problem was noticed as soon as we opened the device, the screen was separated and lifted above the silver bezel from the left side, so much that you can hear it flexing when touching it.
The second problem was noticed when the screen was turned on. Right on the center a pixel stuck on red color, so annoying that no matter what backgroun you use, it still shows.
I own a Motorola Xoom 4G/LTE and the Nexus 7 compared to it feels like a toy. I know they are not in the same price range, but the screen on the Xoom has the feel of hard tick glass that the Nexus lacks. I don't see how the back of the Nexus is supposed to feel like leather as mentioned by some reviewers either.
I already did the required steps to exange the device for a new one. I just hope that the replacement comes free of issues, even after reading from so many members over at XDA that it may not be the case.
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I feel you on the screen issues but you aren't giving the device a fair shake until you've actually gotten some seat time with it.
right now, it sounds like you're judging a defective device solely on some cosmetic issues that hopefully will get resolved with the replacement.
play with it some more until the replacement comes and evaluate it based on its size/weight, form factor, JB, speed/responsiveness, functionality, etc.
I want to give an update on my experience with this device. The RMA process was completed and the replacement tablet came without issues.
My Mom has been using it ever since receiving it and I check the device once in a while just to make sure the lift screen problem is not present.
I have to say that after using the replacement unit my opinion on this tablet has changed for good. You get great value for the price and ,being a Nexus device, the assurance to that it will receive updates on time.
My original opinion was based on a defective unit, so I felt the necessity to post this update for any person still reading this section of the forums prior to making their decision to purchase one.
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I don't think so, this whole defect thing definitely left a stain on the Nexus brand.
When you think Nexus, you think perfect.
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I can almost guarantee there were more devices that were perfect versus those that had issues. Plus Googles time frame for start to finish was a little ridiculous.
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No chance in hell they use crappy Asus again. I'd put money on it.
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Maybe they'll change up the way they release a new product through the Google Play store. The whole bit with people being able to get them through retail channels faster than the preorders was a disaster. I hope they stay with Asus, if they can learn from their mistakes. I'm sure it's a pretty steep learning curve for the manufacturing and QC guys for any new product line.
Yes. I think most of ASUS problems are with it's initial batch of tablets. After about a month things seem to smooth out. So I'll probably do my best to hold out a month next time. But that's so hard for me because I'm impatient too.
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I don't think so, this whole defect thing definitely left a stain on the Nexus brand.
When you think Nexus, you think perfect.
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There's threads like yours in the galaxy nexus forums saying the exact same thing but about Samsung and how google should choose another company. All these companies will have their own problems. The nexus like is not perfect and not meant to be, its where google test its new android builds.
I'm really surprised to hear about all the quality issues with the Nexus, it's pretty disappointing . I have the OG Transformer and I LOVE it, it's been amazing.
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I can almost guarantee there were more devices that were perfect versus those that had issues. Plus Googles time frame for start to finish was a little ridiculous.
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I agree with the time frame being ridiculous, but I don't know about most devices being perfect considering how many people are going through multiple replacements with defects. It'd be different if the first replacements everyone got were perfect, but I see a lot of people settling on units with relatively minor defects because they fear that their 4th replacement will be worse than their 3rd. I love my Nexus 7, but even I'm settling on the minor defects that it has (minor screen separation and multitouch issue) because I'm afraid that a replacement would be much worse.
No matter which OEM Google uses in the future, there will always be unhappy people. My device is rock solid and defect free.
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Classic mistake... Listening to a vocal few instead of noting the happy silence of the overwhelming majority of satisfied customers.
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You know, I really can't say. We know of EVERY little problem the N7 has because we come to this forum. But I think Google has had and expects stuff like this, with any company.
I've had 2 Asus Android tablets, and both have problems. The N7 has very slight screen lift ( no big deal to me) and that's it. My Transformer Prime had shot GPS, crappy WiFi, and buggy software....BUT, I love what they do. The Transformer line is one of a kind beast, and the N7 is even better. First 10" Tegra 3 tablet with keyboard dock style, First 7" Tegra 3 tablet with JB...for $199 to top it off So I think I am willing to take chances to stay on the newest/ hottest gear...and Asus has that gear. So I'd say Google should give Asus another shot if they can fill their needs.
To be fair, screen Flickr is because of the tegra 3 (it is an issue with teg3 HTC ONE X's; screen color problems = defects from the screen manufacturers (LG, SHARP, SONY,not Asus)... Same issues in OneX/XL/S's with varying hue and color temp.
Screen edge coming up or slightly moving.... Because it's not glued in, making it easier to service... Pop off the backing and tighten the damn screws.
Some people have the slightest issues and return items blowing the issue excessively out of proportion... Some of these people are also the most vocal on forums.
Ultimately the returns/exchanges are less than 1% of total units sold and happens to every device. Let's remember when the Xoom first came out... Anyone? Lol
GeneralCrocket said:
I don't think so, this whole defect thing
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Errm, what "defect thing"...
Or are you one of these unfortunate people that have no concept of perspective and context?
Bonekeep said:
Classic mistake... Listening to a vocal few instead of noting the happy silence of the overwhelming majority of satisfied customers.
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Ding ding ding.
And even for those with defects, they aren't exploding, they aren't catching on fire. They just didn't use enough glue on one single side. Not a big deal.
As a rather funny note, all the ASUS preorder hate seems irrelevant in Germany where the device isn't even available yet at all.
Sometimes, Google is way too USA.
neotekz said:
There's threads like yours in the galaxy nexus forums saying the exact same thing but about Samsung and how google should choose another company. All these companies will have their own problems. The nexus like is not perfect and not meant to be, its where google test its new android builds.
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i agree.
my vote is for yes. if google releases a nexus10, i bet asus will build it
When the Galaxy Nexus was released when it connected to 2G networks the volume would automatically decrease, do you think Google have scratched Samsung off their list too?
Why not? Asus are a wonderful manufacturer.
My Nexus 7 is perfect and my Samsung Galaxy Nexus is, too. I was worried about my products after reading these forums and I was constantly having to check for defects just to make myself feel better and then I realised how silly that is. Headaches over nothing, because a small minority are incredibly vocal!
I am always behind Asus after using their motherboards/monitors and enjoying my previous TF101 tablet.
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4 months to production is unheard of in this market. They gave us something cheap, fast, and good, so I am hoping Asus becomes the 'go to' manufacture for nexus tablet's.
Looking forward to November's nexus devices, and hope Asus is putting together a bigger tablet with a keyboard (2560x1600)
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I hope this spurs Google to start using their Motorola facilities to produce devices with nothing but 'nexus' etched into the back.
These OEMs with their disgraceful reskins, false promises of support, and either shoddy or overpriced hardware. They deserve nothing more.
It would also settle the patent war.
StuMcBill said:
When the Galaxy Nexus was released when it connected to 2G networks the volume would automatically decrease, do you think Google have scratched Samsung off their list too?
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Sounds like a software thing.
I'm thinking about buying anexus7 . do you guys think it is still a good buy? Should I wait? I like the idea of a nexus 10 but the dual core CPU compared to a quad to me does not seem right. Suggestions?
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Quad core does not 'always' mean better than dual core. If I had a chance (the money) to buy a nexus 10, I definitely would.
In my opinion android isn't even optimized properly for quad core, its not needed.... My nexus 7 VERY rarely needs to put use to more than two cores. The two cores of the nexus 10 are powerful ones
Not saying the nexus 7 isn't still worth buying. If I didn't have a nexus 7, I'd still end up buying one its a great device and does everything I need easily, while having a smaller screen size. (Which is perfect for me)
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Another should I? LOL
Well...to add something more....
The n7 is awesome. Period. If you want more awesome....spend way more, or wait for new devices.
Honestly ....people keep asking this, and its up to you. I bought one at Christmas cause its cheap and arguably the best 7" out there.
Budget, desperation and size preferences make this an apples to oranges discussion.
Not being a Dink, but seriously ....read the many threads that exist with the same question. Might help you.
People have stated their opinions on this in lots of similar threads.
Good luck, if you get one....enjoy!
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I got my nexus about 3weeks ago. I do love it. But i got my so the samsung galaxy tab 2. It has things likw better. It is dual core vs quad. Bur i dknt feel any performance difference. It has sd card slot. 2 cameras. Both are better than the one camera on nexus.
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kj2112 said:
The n7 is awesome. Period. If you want more awesome....spend way more, or wait for new devices.
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^ this. already into march, a case could certainly be made for holding off a few months until new devices are unveiled, like the much anticipated successor to the nexus 7 (this would be my course of action if i didn't already have an n7). but if you need a tablet now, you can't really beat throwing down $200 for this beast.
I disagree on the N10. Power wise, the Dual core snapdragon is faster... but since it is pushing that insane resolution, it is about the same speed, or laggier, then the N7.
This is why I think uber high resolutions are a waste. Useless number game with no benefit. Just a waste of resources.
The N10 has some nice features like HDMI out but 7" and price is right on the N7. The N7 has a super high DPI. Don't upgrade something that doesn't need upgrading.
This is why the Transformer 300 is faster then the Prime, different res.
I'd buy the N7 again... and I did. We have 4 of them. And I just bought 30 for a job.
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For me the N7 hits my sweet spot in terms of performance, prize and size! :good:
I'm in the same boat. I know I definitely want a Nexus tablet to replace my crappy PlayBook but I think I'm going to hold off to see what is unveiled at Google I/O before making a decision. If a successor is released I will buy that instead.
I was thinking about selling my TF700+Dock for a Nexus 7, but then again the Nexus 7 Successor should be coming out later this year. May just wait for that.
Will miss the Transformer though because of the keyboard dock (extra batt life) and it propping the screen up for viewing. Just couldn't stand the laggy IO of the TF700 though. I was reading a few other threads on here about the current Nexus 7's IO being a bottleneck, but I'm sure it's nowhere as bad as the TF700s.
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For me the N7 hits my sweet spot in terms of performance, prize and size! :good:
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I agree! I love the size of this. It's basically pocketable, even with the Sharkk keyboard case I bought. I haven't touched my iPad in three weeks since I bought it.
What's with all these "Should I buy?" threads?
Look. If you want to buy it, buy it. If you don't, then don't. How are we supposed to know your needs and what you'll be using it for? Watch some videos (there are around 3 million on YouTube) for the N7 and make the choice yourself. It's just a $200 tablet, not an Aston Martin DBS.
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What's with all these "Should I buy?" threads?
Look. If you want to buy it, buy it. If you don't, then don't. How are we supposed to know your needs and what you'll be using it for? Watch some videos (there are around 3 million on YouTube) for the N7 and make the choice yourself. It's just a $200 tablet, not an Aston Martin DBS.
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What he said... I didn't like the sgtab2 cuz the screen was fuzzy and wasnt sharp and clean like the n7
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Hi, after owning the asus TF201 for over a year now, I also wanted to change to the nexus 7 3g.
I had several problems with the TF201 (laggy wifi, laggy bluetooth, no gps, bad overall performance). During the last year I started hating asus for this design flaw.
Now i noticed, that the N7 is also produced by asus. Should I really try another product of this company?
However, yesterday I wanted to set my order.
Fortunately I found some posts about a stuttering when streaming the audio by bluetooth and additional wifi usage. Some have this stuttering, some others report that their wifi-speed drops near zero.
For me that all sounds like the same strange problems I had with the TF201 (always thought the only reason for my problems was the aluminium-case of the TF201).
Now I'm really dissapointed. The benefit of the N7 3G would be the mobility and the additional connectivity.
I also know that the nexus is a really cheap device. Nevertheless the main-functions should work.
What do you think is the reason for this bluetooth audio stuttering? Software based or really a crappy hardware (I trust asus wouldn't mind).
It all depends. I don't remember reading about a lot of people having Bluetooth problems on a stock device. Those of us who have it are the ones usually on custom ROM's. For example I'm on Paranoid Android 3+ and it's known to have Bluetooth issues. There is also a fix for it but I didn't bother as I never use Bluetooth.
Bottom line is, most people don't have these problems. What you're reading here is a great majority of people who only have problems. That's why they're here, because they're looking around for help. Millions of users I'm sure are perfectly happy with their N7's.