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Hi all,
I finally got a chance to go to the store to check one of these out. I wanted to see what all the hype was about and if I could justify spending the money to upgrade my D2G (not elligible for upgrade yet).
First Impressions:
- Screen: I read all the hysteria about how bad a pixelated screen looks etc. Some people said that you could barely see the difference unless youre holding the right up to your eye holes.. They are wrong. You can easily see the difference holding it at normal viewing distance. If you like the screen on the D2G it will take some serious adjusting to. It simply 'seems' like outdated tech and looks cheap.
-4G: This is the first 4G device I have ever used. It is shockingly quick (had 2 bars in Central NJ). I download a few apps (dolphin browser) and went to a couple of web pages. I also ran the speed test 19.6mb down // 3.99 upload. I went to youtube and loaded an HD video and the video never stuttered once (video time never caught up to buffering). I was very impressed with 4G and that is mainly the reason I wanted to take a look at the Droid Bionic.
- Stress testing:? Not sure what to call this but I wanted to see if I could make the phone hang up. Im not even sure if these are applicable to the hardware, but I ran 2 apps. The first of which was Google Maps, it didnt seem to be any faster than on my D2G. Scrolling isnt any more impressive neither is zooming in, I felt like the rendering speed was the same.
- Moto BLUR/UI whatever its called these days: Its still sucky you will want to root and change it.
I also downloaded a PDF and scrolled around that. Same issue, rendering doesnt seem any faster.
Im not even sure if something like this can be critiqued because these things arent even smooth on a regular PC.
Its clearly a good phone if you can deal with the screen thing. Once roms and stuff are developed for it, it will be even better. I would probably pull the trigger if i was elligible for an upgrade.
Just my 2 cents.
I personally wouldn't recommend the Bionic. I'm currently using one, as it "fell into my hands". There are many more options coming VERY soon which will have greater specs than the Bionic and won't have the terrible display.
I can't believe how much denial the people are in when they say that the screen is fine. If you say the screen is fine you're lying to yourself and everyone else, but whatever makes you feel better about your $300+ purchase I guess.
I will say that the Bionic has a leg up on my Incredible as far as outdoor viewing goes.
BerkleyJ said:
I personally wouldn't recommend the Bionic. I'm currently using one, as it "fell into my hands". There are many more options coming VERY soon which will have greater specs than the Bionic and won't have the terrible display.
I can't believe how much denial the people are in when they say that the screen is fine. If you say the screen is fine you're lying to yourself and everyone else, but whatever makes you feel better about your $300+ purchase I guess.
I will say that the Bionic has a leg up on my Incredible as far as outdoor viewing goes.
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Then I'm in denial and deny it! lol.. its not the best screen, but its not horrible! I think its quite ok.. the pixels don't bother me much, my battery life kicks butt compared to tbolt! Then again, im not one for watching movies on my phone I got a Sammy LED at home for that...
For those of us who:
-would rather watch a movie on something larger than a 4 inch screen.
-would rather fap to pr0n from a pc
-would rather play games on a pc, xbox 360 or ps3
-care about performance of the best 4g radio and so far the best processor/ram combo
OR have a connection for incredibly good deals on phones and don't really care...
Yeah, denial is the right term.
Like i've been saying - Rendering performance will not be hardly any different until Icecream comes out. Gingerbread is singlethreaded.. you're not going to see the OS take any advantage over dual core for a while.
The good news is that it's still just as fast as any other single core phone. If any app is coded to take advantage of dual core, it will shine in those but in average usage - you're not seeing any performance advantage here.
The pentile screen doesn't bother me. I can tell at times but still doesn't impact me. I would rather have better battery life than a non-pentile screen. I don't want the Thunderbolt battery issues.
After removing a bunch of bloatware, I kinda dig the new Blur. I was using CM7 with ADW Ex on top. It is running so butter smooth! I will probably go back to ADW Ex when a ROM comes out without Blur.
I got 30 days to try it out but I might exchange it for the HTC Vigor. Depends on what happens the next 30 days.
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Like i've been saying - Rendering performance will not be hardly any different until Icecream comes out. Gingerbread is singlethreaded.. you're not going to see the OS take any advantage over dual core for a while.
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While it's true it's barely worth mentioning. "YET" or "UNTIL" are key vocabulary for this CPU.
Coming from a droidx here... the screen looks a-ok to me on the bionic.
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I've been using htc phones since the ppc6600. Battery life has been terrible since then, and I don't see it getting any better, unless they do something magical. 6600:terrible battery life. 6700 terrible battery life. 6800: terrible battery life. Incredible : incredibly terrible battery life.
There seems to be a trend here. I do believe I am done with htc.
The battery life alone, to me, is worth the money.
No doubt that the screen is disappointing, but LTE is absolutely insane, and the phone is noticeably faster than the Sensation running a Sense ROM. Overall, I'm very pleased with my first Motorola device, and it was a steal at $179 from Amazon.
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I think that people are being to anal about the screen. I use the phone in direct sunlight now and it looks incredible. The text looks super sharp and you dont have to put your hand on top of the screen to block sun light. this phone is amazing. and yes better phones will be out and when you get that awesome phone that will come out in a few months another better phone will be out after that. is a never ending cycle. I love the bionic and i dont regret buying it. When i want to watch porn I use my computer or my galaxy 10.1 tablet. If you really really need a porn fix the bionic could take care of it too.
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I've been using htc phones since the ppc6600. Battery life has been terrible since then, and I don't see it getting any better, unless they do something magical. 6600:terrible battery life. 6700 terrible battery life. 6800: terrible battery life. Incredible : incredibly terrible battery life.
There seems to be a trend here. I do believe I am done with htc.
The battery life alone, to me, is worth the money.
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It's Sense. Put CyanogenMod on any HTC device, and you get amazing battery life. Can't wait for it on the Bionic.
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It's Sense. Put CyanogenMod on any HTC device, and you get amazing battery life. Can't wait for it on the Bionic.
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Sense didn't exist until after the 6800. I had cm7 on my DInc, it still sucked, battery wise anyway.
The hate for the screen is warranted, and not warranted. I don't know how to put that. I was adamantly against a PenTile screen and it was almost enough to put me off on this phone. I had seen it in store and focused on the screen, and it just annoyed me. Then I got some real time with it and it's seriously a bunch of nonsense. The screen is sharp, great colors, great in daylight. It's not AMOLED level there but it's a do-it-all screen.
The 4G is super fast, and the battery life is amazing. I came from a Droid X and it's an impressive phone. Suck it up on the screen and you'll forget about it in a day.
Vexorg said:
Hi all,
I finally got a chance to go to the store to check one of these out. I wanted to see what all the hype was about and if I could justify spending the money to upgrade my D2G (not elligible for upgrade yet).
First Impressions:
- Screen: I read all the hysteria about how bad a pixelated screen looks etc. Some people said that you could barely see the difference unless youre holding the right up to your eye holes.. They are wrong. You can easily see the difference holding it at normal viewing distance. If you like the screen on the D2G it will take some serious adjusting to. It simply 'seems' like outdated tech and looks cheap.
-4G: This is the first 4G device I have ever used. It is shockingly quick (had 2 bars in Central NJ). I download a few apps (dolphin browser) and went to a couple of web pages. I also ran the speed test 19.6mb down // 3.99 upload. I went to youtube and loaded an HD video and the video never stuttered once (video time never caught up to buffering). I was very impressed with 4G and that is mainly the reason I wanted to take a look at the Droid Bionic.
- Stress testing:? Not sure what to call this but I wanted to see if I could make the phone hang up. Im not even sure if these are applicable to the hardware, but I ran 2 apps. The first of which was Google Maps, it didnt seem to be any faster than on my D2G. Scrolling isnt any more impressive neither is zooming in, I felt like the rendering speed was the same.
- Moto BLUR/UI whatever its called these days: Its still sucky you will want to root and change it.
I also downloaded a PDF and scrolled around that. Same issue, rendering doesnt seem any faster.
Im not even sure if something like this can be critiqued because these things arent even smooth on a regular PC.
Its clearly a good phone if you can deal with the screen thing. Once roms and stuff are developed for it, it will be even better. I would probably pull the trigger if i was elligible for an upgrade.
Just my 2 cents.
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Your comparing a Droid 2 Global to a Bionic .... Bionic>"D2G"
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The "VERY" part of your statement, stands out as if you know something the rest of "non" Verizon Wireless employee's would know... if you dont work for verizon wireless please share what these options are..if you do work for vzw i can understand if you dont because you dont want to get a lawsuit.
Thx for the detailed review while playing with a demo model in-store for how long?
*crack me up!
manolith2011 said:
I think that people are being to anal about the screen.
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If I'm spending $200 to $300 on an smartphone it better have a damn good screen. No offense but the Bionic does not have a good screen. Yeah at times it can look good but anything with green for instance suddenly brings out the crap factor. If it doesn't bother you then enjoy it. As for me I'll wait until either the HTC or Samsung offerings are out both of which will have a better screen over the Bionic.
Ok so right now am looking for a phone to buy.
And had the droid x
And droid charge.
So my question is would anybody recommend the d3?
And how is the development for the d3 look in the future?
I heard about motorola unlocking the bootloader but when the day comes, will they only provide it with the new phones? Or would it be like an update?
Absolutely would recommend!
I wholeheartedly recommend the D3 - especially if you are looking for a physical keyboard.
Development is well under way and there are now at least 2 full working ROMs. I've tried both Steel Droid and Monster and both are great - i find monster to be faster and thats my preference.
When I first got the phone, I was pretty bummed that the locked bootloader had put a huge damper on development. Ever since root has been acheived, however, things have been much better and you could not pry my D3 from my cold dead hands.
I hear that Blur is much better than previous iterations, but I use launcher pro so I don't use blur at all.
heres a link to the ROM, Mods and Themes thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289611
As much as I like my D3, I would not recommend it to anyone looking to get a new phone. unless you absolutely need a keyboard, I would wait for either the Droid Razr or Galaxy Nexus. Both will have better hardware and FAR better screens and will be LTE.
I got a D3 yesterday, after having the D1 the last two years. After about 20 hours using it, I love it. I really dig how fast it is, and the larger screen is nice too.
As soon as I got it home, I rooted it and ran the scripts to remove the VZW apps. I really don't see a need to flash a ROM since this D3 runs so smoothly already. I'd like to edit some PNG files here and there, and that will probably be about it for me. I remember the constant flashing of ROM's, SBF files, and themes on my D1. This time around, I'm really not looking forward to that. It feels to me like VZW and Motorola did a great job with the device as is once you skim off the bloatware.
Like SrulDog, I switched to LP immediately. I've been using LP since about the time it was released, so I am very comfortable with it. It runs great on the D3 too.
I say go for it. I don't know how it compares to the Droids you have owned, but I know it is much better than the D1.
-Mike
kishin14 said:
As much as I like my D3, I would not recommend it to anyone looking to get a new phone. unless you absolutely need a keyboard, I would wait for either the Droid Razr or Galaxy Nexus. Both will have better hardware and FAR better screens and will be LTE.
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Sure the screen looks crap sometimes. But I'm standing in direct sunlight in 100 degree weather right now and I can see every detail on it. Try that on an AMOLED.
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I have had this phone for a couple weeks and I am enjoying it. I had an OG Droid that the screen crapped out on me so this was nice because it works! I am used to the hardware keyboard on a Blackberry Tour/Bold 9650 but that's personal preference. I am getting used to this one though and I can fly on it so I guess it's pretty good for a keyboard.
A couple things I have done are root, freeze a few apps like VCast and run Autokiller at Strict, and the phone is as smooth as butter now. It has the same hardware as the Bionic really so I mean it's as high end as you can get. If you want 4G then as mentioned you should wait, but I have been getting great 3G speeds and yes I have to wait for the Market apps to download a little but it's a lot faster than it has been in the past with my OG Droid.
Well 4g isent really a biggy for me.
More like.batterry life and great rom features really
Androidsims said:
Sure the screen looks crap sometimes. But I'm standing in direct sunlight in 100 degree weather right now and I can see every detail on it. Try that on an AMOLED.
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Great responses here! This is why I love XDA! To answer the question…yes, I would definitely recommend getting a DVD for all the reasons given above. Dev work is going well, CM7 is on the way, and we MAY have an AOSP rom by the weekend (permissions to port pending). The physical keyboard is outstanding, and the screen is good. Even though colors are a bit washed out, being able to view the screen in direct sunlight, with no issues, is a massive bonus. If you don't need the keyboard, and can wait a little while, I would jump all over the Nexus Prime/ galaxy Nexus/ whatever they're calling that 4.65" piece of sexiness! Either way, you'll end up satisfied imo.
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The biggest bugger for me is the lack of RAM. Phone would have been a whole lot better if it had 1GB ram instead 512MB only. The screen is a letdown IMO, but indeed is great in the sun and also better on the battery.
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Aside from the occasional issues from being in Australia, I must say I recommend the Droid 3. It's excellent!
I still fail to see what the lack of ram is holding us back from. But I've already convinced pne person to buy this phone, and they text me damn near everyday to thank me.
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Two years ago the Milestone was an awesome terminal for its time.
Nice design, perfect size, one of the best display ever seen, incredibly good audio quality and decent CPU power.
The only drawbacks were the horrible battery life, the cheap keyboard and the crap camera.
The D3, although can't be considered a bad phone, is the shadow of what the MS1 was.
The performances (I mean the real ones, not the benchmarks) aren't on par with one years old phones, the crap camera and the poor battery life are still there, the keyboard is improved but is still built like a toy, while the phone grown more than the display, the display went from the best available to the worst ever seen, the signal sensitivity went from the top to the "below the average". The audio quality, while better than the HTC phones is not on par with the motorola ancestors.
As I already said, my Desire Z (aka G2) was a better phone in any area, excluding the audio level and the lack of the numeric ROW.
From my point of view was a boring phone, everything worked from the beginning, good battery life, great photos, super stable system, good keyboard, and fantastic tethering capabilities.
The display was also good, not as the one on the Milestone 1, but light years better than the Droid 3's one.
All in all I suggest to buy the D3 only if you can get a very good deal.
If you like a ready to go smartphone, a DZ/G2 is still a way better choice, especially considering its today average price.
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I still fail to see what the lack of ram is holding us back from.
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i think people come from older phones and get hung up on the numbers when with a better processor and other amenities a 'low' RAM really isn't a factor and can actually make the phone faster with everything cached and saved to the system memory. I don't even check the RAM since i've never had an issue with slow or choppy speed.
Also i go a whole day with my phone and end with 30% battery at the end of the day. i use it heavy while im out, not as much when home from work but even then i come home with 50-40% battery. I'm not sure what you guys are doing to get poor battery life.
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I'm not sure what you guys are doing to get poor battery life.
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Usually just using it on modern networks.
The motorola basebands are usually poor (especially on the erly releases), and the power drain has a lot of variation depending on the generation and the make of the BTS/node-b, whatever.
Just for example when I got the milestone 1, with the initial firmware tha battery lasted less than six hour with a vodafone SIM, and almost a day with a three SIM.
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Usually just using it on modern networks.
The motorola basebands are usually poor (especially on the erly releases), and the power drain has a lot of variation depending on the generation and the make of the BTS/node-b, whatever.
Just for example when I got the milestone 1, with the initial firmware tha battery lasted less than six hour with a vodafone SIM, and almost a day with a three SIM.
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Idk I hear people on Verizon say the same thing and we get pretty good service just about everywhere. sure at my old job where I was tucked in the basement my phone would die quickly but I couldnt blame that on the phone or the software, like you said it's the radio trying to get signal. I think it more depends on the user and how they use the phone/what services they run.
I had installed Juice Defender originally because i thought it would increase battery life, but i turn my screen on and off so much that it actually drained more battery from turning data off and on all the time, so now i only use it to automatically enable wifi when i'm home and turn off data while i'm asleep. maybe something like that could help you out?
All in all I think the D3 is one of the best Android options out. Plus i'm petty and like the fact that not everyone around here has one since it didn't seem to get a bunch of publicity...people still ask me 'What phone is that???"
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I had installed Juice Defender originally because i thought it would increase battery life, but i turn my screen on and off so much that it actually drained more battery from turning data off and on all the time, so now i only use it to automatically enable wifi when i'm home and turn off data while i'm asleep. maybe something like that could help you out?
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When I bought the MS1 "wi sync plus" was the program that saved the ms1 form a jump out of the window.
Btw i never tried any wi sync+ clone, like juice defender.
I'm about to purchased D3 today. Too bad it's hard to find one here. Already ask the seller to check with the supplier if there is any. I only found Motorola Atrix at one single shop here.
This is definitely my choice right now. In my opinion, 512MB RAM is enough for a dual core 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 SoC processor. PowerVR SGX540 is just nice, too bad that it only support OpenGL 2.0 and not DirectX as in Playstation Vita with PowerVR SGX543.
QWERTY keyboard has improved a lot this time. It had HDMI Type-D, Physical Button for Camera & Sound Volume & Micro-USB. I really hope it will get ICS update when it release and capable of USB Host. Another thing is that Motorola had been bought by Google, I believe Motorola will have latest update every time new Android version released. I hope so
One thing that make me stay away from Samsung Galaxy S2 is that it had one single port Micro USB for everything(HDMI through MHL, USB data, USB Charging, USB Host)
If i use HDMI output, then I cannot use USB Host at the same time. I wonder if the USB Host adapter connected to USB Hub, can it handle and recognize multiple device such as keyboard, mouse,game controller,USB Pendrive etc?
Yeah, but the way I understand it, even the phones that have 1gb of RAM right now (Atrix, Bionic) dont really have 1gb because 512mb is locked to be used with Webtop. And so far as I have been able to find, no other phone has more than 512mb right now. Can anyone confirm?
This mattered to me because I have an Atrix right now on AT&T and I absolutely love the phone, but can't take the ****ty service everywhere anymore, have to switch to Verizon. I had basically three phones I was looking at in the Amazon penny sale, D3, Bionic and the new Samsung qwerty, Supernova or something. So, if the above is right, the D3 I'm getting is essentially the same phone as my Atrix now without Webtop (don't care) or 4g (not here for years, boucou wifi) but with a physical kb, which actually makes it way better. I actually really, really like Gingerblur, and if it's slow I dig Launcherpro, so I should be good, yeah?
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This. Coming from an Atrix getting HDMI mirroring will be a big deal to me; I didn't buy any docks and haven't rooted or reflashed other than official 2.3 update, so the only thing I ever get over HDMI is the media player interface. Which is cool, but I want something else.
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Well it arrived yesterday, and I'm super-happy to say that so far (knock on wood) it appears to be essentially flawless; no screwy keys, no bad backlight, no boot-looping or overheating or any of the other issues that seem to plague some of the batches of phones. I also got the Moto 1930mAh battery, so battery life shouldn't be a big issue.
I was worried about the screen quality (a common D3 gripe), but I gotta say, after being accustomed to an older, smaller, scratched-up, lower-res, innaccurate, resistive touch screen on my HTC Tilt 2 for the last two years, I'm totally happy with the D3's screen; aside from it being slightly dimmer than some of the super-bright/saturated Super-AMOLEDs, it looks fine. I looked pretty closely and watched the text scroll in the Home interface and on web pages, and I never saw this "blurriness" that apparently drives all the super-picky screen elitists to hate PenTile. It looks great to me, probably due to the high res.
When it comes to navigating Android, I pretty much just stare at it and drool like a catatonic chimp, occasionally poking at buttons/icons, and dragging stuff here and there. Years of Windows Mobile haven't left me very Android-inclined I guess, but it looks intuitive and I've heard that it may be a slightly better OS than WinMo, so I'll figure it out.
And, as expected, the keyboard blew away any expectations I had. It's awesome.
So far I love the thing.
I'm a little scared to root; can I brick my phone while trying to root it?
Nice! I see: root! It can't be easier. Just double click!
I'd wait a bit before root. In general I say wait for an SBF of a sort. Soon we should see an update to address the bluish camera, power leaking car dock and few other minor annoyances. Hopefully recovery files will leak soon.
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Well it's been 2 days now. I've figured out how to drag icons around and add/remove them from my Home screen, updated some stuff, and downloaded/played GRave Defense HD (fun game btw).
I left it to charge all night, and plucked it from the chrager at exactly 7am yesterday when I left for work. I've used it moderately so far; watched a few YouTube vids, played some GRave Defense, texted a fair amount, checked Gmail, explored the menus a lot and fiddled around with it quite a bit. So far the battery is down to about 48% in a period of 30 hours (7am one day to 1pm the next day) without being turned off at all. I'm betting it will hit two days before needing a recharge, althoug with heavier usage it mayonly last 30-36 hours per charge. Still, not too bad at all for such a monster smartphone. I'm actually pretty impressed. I do have the 1930mAh Moto battery though. Which, I must add, doesn't even add any noticeable size increase to the phone.
Gotta say I LOVE this phone so far; I definitely picked the right phone for me; I can't find a single thing wrong with it, really. I don't know what people are *****ing about as far as the interface being slow or the screen being in any way blurry; you practically have to look at the thing under a friggin microscope to even see the slight cross-hatched PenTile dithering. I think people are just looking for excuses to complain. Of course, I don't have that much for a basis of comparison; I'm not really spoiled with all the latest phone technology, having only a Tilt2 with its old 528MHz single-core processor and buggy-ass, laggy TouchFLO-3D-on-top-of-Windows Mobile 6.5 operating system for comparison.
the blurry thing is hard to see at first.. but after a while you will notice it.. it doesnt bug me so much but its there lol.. overall i love the phone too.. great purchase.. i just got into the rooting and exploring android further scene.. rooting is easy .. its literally 2 clicks away.. cant harm anything.. but from there.. becareful what u do .. u dont want to delete the wrong thing .. then ur sol till an SBF comes out..
I agree it is a good little phone and once you get used to it you get to liking it. I am finding that it is a nice phone to be able to dink around with. My only thing is I haven't found a launcher I just love. Blur seems slow, as does ADB, and Go Launcher was buggy. But other then that it seems like a good little phone.
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Oooh, I just figured out that I can forcibly turn up the brightness in the Display settings and the display looks brilliant in a half-lit room. I don't want it eating up battery though so I'll keep it down around 60% or so.
I loaded DICE player and it literally crashes and reboots my phone EVERY TIME I load any kind of video file. Craptacular. I'll stick with MoboPlayer.
I rooted my unlocked XT860 quite easily using PSouza's Tool (version 1.06). It worked very well! I was afraid as well but didn't see anyone in the forum that said they bricked when they tried it.
I semi-bricked my phone by trying to flash one of the ROMs out there (Steel Droid), so I warn you - don't do any ROMs until they are released as international-friendly! (or specifically built for our XT860's).
To unbrick, I flashed the Chinese ME865 SBF. It's nice to have my phone back but it's on Android version 2.3.5, which is currently not root-able.
So there *is* a way out in case of catastrophe, but it's not as nice as having a stock Bell SBF.
I also rooted and added Hashcodes recovery to my XT860, but like everyone else, I'm impatient for something to flash. It's like our phones are all dressed up, but have nowhere to go
Its slightly depressing as well, surfing all the other sites, the popular ones and some not so popular...there's just no dev action on this phone. No forums even where we can exchange information. Well, except in here, hidden in the D3 forums.
I can't complain about the phone at all, to be honest, as I won it in one of MobileSyrups giveaways.
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Well just as an update, the battery ran until about 8pm the following night, from 7am the previous morning. That's about... What? 37 hours? When I plugged it in, it still had 10% as well, but it was going down pretty quick, likely would not have lasted another hour or two. Not bad at all though; 37 hours without a recharge while surfing, texting, and downloading/installing hordes of new apps is certainly a pretty good time-frame for a smart phone these days.
Just downloaded/installed Pandora Radio, it is the dog's bollocks (that's British for "Awesome").
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Well just as an update, the battery ran until about 8pm the following night, from 7am the previous morning. That's about... What? 37 hours? When I plugged it in, it still had 10% as well, but it was going down pretty quick, likely would not have lasted another hour or two. Not bad at all though; 37 hours without a recharge while surfing, texting, and downloading/installing hordes of new apps is certainly a pretty good time-frame for a smart phone these days.
Just downloaded/installed Pandora Radio, it is the dog's bollocks (that's British for "Awesome").
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Endoroid said:
You got 37 hours from a xt860?!
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Since the times of milestone one, those big numbers are surfacing.
Usually they came from people that doesen't use the always on data or is used to keep the phone in 2g.
With my xt883 and the extended battery i'm happy if i reach the end of the day...
Well OK, to be fair, I work in a secured area and can't bring my phone in, and must leave it in a little locker outside the door. This happens about 5-6hrs a day, so you could subtract up to 10 or 12 hours of actual usage time out of that 37 hours, but I made sure that at no point was the phone ever turned off or put in sleep mode or airplane mode; it was always on and had signal.
Wow impressive. I wish my battery life was that long. But unfortunately CDMA isn't as friendly. But I can make it through the day with over 50% left if I do it right.
I'm lucky if I get 8 hours, regardless of use
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My stock XT862 (debloated though) does about 12 hours on heavy usage. Does 16h on normal usage
I think my only regret so far was getting the Moto 1930mAh battery; sinc then I've heard amazing things about the Mugen power 3600mAh one. Oh well, the Moto battery definitely pulls it weight.
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I think my only regret so far was getting the Moto 1930mAh battery; sinc then I've heard amazing things about the Mugen power 3600mAh one. Oh well, the Moto battery definitely pulls it weight.
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Still regretting ??
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My stock XT862 (debloated though) does about 12 hours on heavy usage. Does 16h on normal usage
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Yes however the xt862 has had a software update fixing the cell standby/idle bug. The xt860 has had no update.
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Still regretting ??
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WHAT?? That's a D3?? Holy crap. Maybe I will stick with my 1930mAh bat for a bit... how's ur battery life? Is it worth the bulk?
...because you guys got an official ICS release and you seem to be enjoying it so much. I'm still able to return my phone (within 30 days) and try another phone out. Would you guys recommend it?
All the reviews I have read have put the skyrocket as being an overall better phone. However, I am a big fan of HTC. I used to have an inspire and I swear that was the best phone I EVER owned. Not very impressed with my skyrocket at this point. I'd like to see what you guys have to say.
At this current point in time.. the Vivid is ok. there's not much too it. there aren't even many themes that work properly with it. the skyrocket (samsung touchwiz in general) gets a bit stale. if you use your phone a lot (data and sms) stay with the skyrocket because your battery will last much longer. on heavy usage i get about from 7am to 11 am
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At this current point in time.. the Vivid is ok. there's not much too it. there aren't even many themes that work properly with it. the skyrocket (samsung touchwiz in general) gets a bit stale. if you use your phone a lot (data and sms) stay with the skyrocket because your battery will last much longer. on heavy usage i get about from 7am to 11 am
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Yikes, that's really bad. I do use my phone a lot so battery life is huge for me. How are you feeling about ICS on your phone? Does it feel different at all or was it all just hype?
I went to the att store at least 5 times to male sure j wanted the vivid over the skyrocket. Overall i think i made the right choice with the vivid. Battery life is bad but i bought a 3600mah battery on amazon for 10 dollars and i get at least 20 hours with very heavy usage. Plus i couldn't stand the low Res on the skyrocket display
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I also had an Inspire before my Vivid, and other HTC's before that. i've always been a big fan, and loved my Inspire right up til the day I broke it. I like my Vivid 10 times better than that. I get a solid 10 hours on normal usage as far as battery. With the custom ROMs that are available, and the Mods that have recently been released, and the official release of ICS...hopefully development will pick up even more and we catch the interest of some themers and such too..
Edit: F me for not proofreading..that "solid 10 hours on normal usage" should have read "solid 20 hours on normal usage". To only get 10 hours it would have to be pretty much constant screen on. I literally watched my battery die the other day to try and work out another issue, so the screen was on most of the day, and it still took til right before I went to bed for it to die.
well i had a infuse 4g and went to the vivid after my infuse stopped functioning right i would have to say i am glad it broke love my vivid
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At this current point in time.. the Vivid is ok. there's not much too it. there aren't even many themes that work properly with it. the skyrocket (samsung touchwiz in general) gets a bit stale. if you use your phone a lot (data and sms) stay with the skyrocket because your battery will last much longer. on heavy usage i get about from 7am to 11 am
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it's a full hour of heavy LTE data usage
i dont know what yall guys are talking about my vivid battery last at least 10 12 hrs with heavy usage during the day and im in a lte area...my phone is always on lte and i dont see any differance between my vivid and my buddies skyrocket as far as battery...
and besides imo touch wiz sucks i have the so called battery hog sence and like i said my battery last just as long as his...we even have races to see whos battery will run out first and its all ways about the same time
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...because you guys got an official ICS release and you seem to be enjoying it so much. I'm still able to return my phone (within 30 days) and try another phone out. Would you guys recommend it?
All the reviews I have read have put the skyrocket as being an overall better phone. However, I am a big fan of HTC. I used to have an inspire and I swear that was the best phone I EVER owned. Not very impressed with my skyrocket at this point. I'd like to see what you guys have to say.
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i say get the vivid and youll enjoy it....ics is the **** mayne
i dont know why everyone says the skyrocket is better...the price tag doesnt make it better.. i hate that
besides they feel really cheap..i almost feel like im going to crush the skyrocket in my hand cuz its so light and weak feeling
Thanks guys. I think I might go to the ATT store today and see if they have a vivid on display running ICS.
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Thanks guys. I think I might go to the ATT store today and see if they have a vivid on display running ICS.
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they might not...but you can look up on youtube the vivid running ics ...
I kind of wish people would stop bashing the battery on the Vivid. It's pretty damn good. When I plug in my phone at night, its usually at more than 50% battery and is reporting more than 16 hours of use. I've experienced better battery on the Vivid than I did on the GS2.
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I have to agree on the battery. If you are using it, regardless of which phone it is, the battery will drain. However the battery on my vivid does not die like the captivate would. I work two jobs and can comfortably go to both knowing my phone will not be in the red when I get off work. It always lasts. I had to bring my charger for the captivate wherever I went. The vivid is amazing!
I'm shocked at the bad battery reports.
I'm actually getting amazing battery life.
Play games rather often, have gps and wifi and mobile data always turned on. Usually browsing the net, xda, facebook, a bit of texting and a few phone calls, sooo many widgets and a livewallpaper, max brightness, and I get at least 12 hours out of my phone, usually more.
And on days I don't use it much... well I've been charging it every other day this week.
I would say that the battery is pretty good. If I can keep from turning on the display I can probably get 15-20hrs. The display really sucks the watts. While you can turn it down (I have it set on automatic) and that help out a lot. Unfortunately, if I just set it for say 20% brightness, I can barely see it indoors and forget outdoors. So automatic works best for me. I have push email and everything else updates at least once an hour.
how do you guys feel about the processor/ram? Do you have trouble playing the latest games or applications? although I'm not a huge gamer, I prefer to be at least moderately updated with the latest hardware.
another question: as was suggested earlier I started looking up some videos. I didn't see any videos showing off the really awesome multi-task functionality that's in ICS. Does it still work the same way on the vivid?
I'm running WC's ICS rom, his kernel is clocked to 1.5 instead of the stock underclock of 1.2. I have experienced absolutely ZERO lag on my Vivid, and I've played several games without issue, emulators also aren't laggy and super buggy on it either.
And the multi tasking is pretty intuitive and nice, you can long press on "home" and it'll pop up the apps you've used most recently in the state they were in when you left unless you fully quit that app or game.
Battery isn't going be great on any of the current LTE phones.
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Battery isn't going be great on any of the current LTE phones.
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again with the bashing of the battery... the battery is great
my battery last longer than my old inspire and infuse so it has nothing to do with lte. all though lte does use the battery more but not like your implying
Ive owned 4 HTC's and the vivid is the best of the bunch so far.I can't imagine a day without it or a day using any other phone again for a long while!This phone is simply amazing!As for the battery i think its pretty awesome.Check out this post where i posted my battery report after 24 hours of use.Yea thats right 24 hours and then some on one charge!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23800715&postcount=13
The battery thread can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544094
+1 for battery life, especially if you check the automatic brightness.
I wouldn't stay with the skyrocket, especially with all the new devices coming out now (highres screens, ics, build quality, etc). I'm glad I choose the vivid and I always recommend it over skyrocket hands down.
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As much as I like the 4X I am very disappointed with the battery life and the fact we cannot obtain root (well majority of us).
I keep looking at the Hong Kong version of the Meizu MX 4 core. Had a look at some reviews and un boxing vids and looks like a nice device. Has anyone ever used a Meizu device before? What are everyone's views on this?
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As much as I like the 4X I am very disappointed with the battery life and the fact we cannot obtain root (well majority of us).
I keep looking at the Hong Kong version of the Meizu MX 4 core. Had a look at some reviews and un boxing vids and looks like a nice device. Has anyone ever used a Meizu device before? What are everyone's views on this?
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I guess it depends what you want from your phone.
I am quite happy with the battery life and its definitely better after several cycles and the v10d update.
Couple of things struck me with the Meizu when compared to O4X though:
4.0" screen vs 4.7"
640 x 960 res vs 1280 x 720
No microSD slot
Micro SIM only
Personally don't like the design either, looks like a chinese iphone clone to me.
Of course it is each to their own though, everyone wants something different from their phones. I bought the O4X on the merits it has, that none of the other current flagships could give me.
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ianford10 said:
As much as I like the 4X I am very disappointed with the battery life and the fact we cannot obtain root (well majority of us).
I keep looking at the Hong Kong version of the Meizu MX 4 core. Had a look at some reviews and un boxing vids and looks like a nice device. Has anyone ever used a Meizu device before? What are everyone's views on this?
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I have the meizu mx 2 core, its a nice phone hardware wise.
screen is very good its almost 300ppi so no dif. really vs the LG phone.
sound in calls are very low even at highest setting.
sound from headphones and speaker is by far the best on any android phone with its wolfson chip.
but there is bad translations in english mode, u have to use locale apps to get right in maps and searches.
u have to install special apps to get into the "real menu" for sync accounts otherwise its flyme only.
almost all support is in chinese.
not much rom development on the device even if its the HK version.
if miui gets a release soon it might be good but i cant recomend it software wise.
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I have the meizu mx 2 core, its a nice phone hardware wise.
screen is very good its almost 300ppi so no dif. really vs the LG phone.
sound in calls are very low even at highest setting.
sound from headphones and speaker is by far the best on any android phone with its wolfson chip.
but there is bad translations in english mode, u have to use locale apps to get right in maps and searches.
u have to install special apps to get into the "real menu" for sync accounts otherwise its flyme only.
almost all support is in chinese.
not much rom development on the device even if its the HK version.
if miui gets a release soon it might be good but i cant recomend it software wise.
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Thank you for the info, is the software really that bad?
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As much as I like the 4X I am very disappointed with the battery life and the fact we cannot obtain root (well majority of us).
I keep looking at the Hong Kong version of the Meizu MX 4 core. Had a look at some reviews and un boxing vids and looks like a nice device. Has anyone ever used a Meizu device before? What are everyone's views on this?
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The battery life with v10d is very very good! And the phone is amazing! I hope that the root will arrive! At the moment the 4x runs very good!
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nikokazaa said:
The battery life with v10d is very very good! And the phone is amazing! I hope that the root will arrive! At the moment the 4x runs very good!
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I think my phone has an issue then. I went to sleep and the percentage was at 77, I woke this morning and it was 34%. I was asleep for 9 hours.
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Perhaps you have some battery eating app running?
I always have data off until I need it and WiFi only on when the screen is on and since v10d the phone drops about 2% battery overnight now.
Seems the saver core works really well in standby as that matches my sensation with a custom battery saver kernel.
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sadly, i am starting to share the same opinion, NOT because of root options, but the functionality of the OS on this model.
it seems they handle sensors incorrectly, and without root, we cannot even try to fix it here.
- is it just me or is it very annoying that when you press power, it takes ages (2-3 seconds) before it responds and turn on the display? (when its in standby)
- when you hang up a call, is it just me or does the thing takes forever?, and the proximity sensor for turning on display when you move it away from your head, i know it can be modified, but why would LG have the delay soooo f.... long? HTC has none of these issues, its almost close to being tooo sensitive?
Dexter_nlb said:
sadly, i am starting to share the same opinion, NOT because of root options, but the functionality of the OS on this model.
it seems they handle sensors incorrectly, and without root, we cannot even try to fix it here.
- is it just me or is it very annoying that when you press power, it takes ages (2-3 seconds) before it responds and turn on the display? (when its in standby)
- when you hang up a call, is it just me or does the thing takes forever?, and the proximity sensor for turning on display when you move it away from your head, i know it can be modified, but why would LG have the delay soooo f.... long? HTC has none of these issues, its almost close to being tooo sensitive?
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I don't have that kind of issue. Does it stay after a full wipe ?
I had a Gnote juste before the 4x HD. Every body was happy about Gnote battery life but not me. With to different Gnote under cyanogen, i had constant battery drain. I'm sure it was software, but i never found wich app was draining. For me, there was no way to have a full day without charging.
Lg 4x is working better for my usage. With green power, i lost maybe 1% during the whole night. The screen is far more responsive. Its seems to handle more precise finger position, build quality is top, size great, screen perfect.
Really a great little phone. i'm quite happy.
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Perhaps you have some battery eating app running?
I always have data off until I need it and WiFi only on when the screen is on and since v10d the phone drops about 2% battery overnight now.
Seems the saver core works really well in standby as that matches my sensation with a custom battery saver kernel.
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I have done a factory reset and see how it goes over the weekend, if no improvement then sadly I will say goodbye to LG
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Dexter_nlb said:
sadly, i am starting to share the same opinion, NOT because of root options, but the functionality of the OS on this model.
it seems they handle sensors incorrectly, and without root, we cannot even try to fix it here.
- is it just me or is it very annoying that when you press power, it takes ages (2-3 seconds) before it responds and turn on the display? (when its in standby)
- when you hang up a call, is it just me or does the thing takes forever?, and the proximity sensor for turning on display when you move it away from your head, i know it can be modified, but why would LG have the delay soooo f.... long? HTC has none of these issues, its almost close to being tooo sensitive?
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looking at your post, i did the test and gound that you are right! but it's been half a month since i got this phone, and i did notice it before i read it from your post... so there are no use case for me where it can be realy annoying, because we are always talking about 1 to 3 seconds!
also, mi old Galaxy S with CM9 isn't faster .
I am also waiting for root (battery life is ok for me since v10d although my wifi is on all the time), but since this phone is realy new, an not as popular as Samsung ans HTC's flagships, I know that it will take more time.
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also, mi old Galaxy S with CM9 isn't faster .
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i had a Galaxy S too and still is within family reach and i do honestly not feel it was that bad. but yes we might be down to 1/2 a second, but the feel of this is a little annoying. but yes, i come to live it hoping i can fix it when its rooted but really, LG could have made it customizable. when they had to make it so strange.
everything here is fast, no delays, when calling, screen is intant on/off, also when the phone is laying around and i push the power button, i get nearly instant screen on ....
dunno why, i only have wiped the device before and after the 10D update
Dexter_nlb said:
sadly, i am starting to share the same opinion, NOT because of root options, but the functionality of the OS on this model.
it seems they handle sensors incorrectly, and without root, we cannot even try to fix it here.
- is it just me or is it very annoying that when you press power, it takes ages (2-3 seconds) before it responds and turn on the display? (when its in standby)
- when you hang up a call, is it just me or does the thing takes forever?, and the proximity sensor for turning on display when you move it away from your head, i know it can be modified, but why would LG have the delay soooo f.... long? HTC has none of these issues, its almost close to being tooo sensitive?
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I don't have this issues.. screen responds very fast.. no delay when hang-up..
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atlexx said:
looking at your post, i did the test and gound that you are right! but it's been half a month since i got this phone, and i did notice it before i read it from your post... so there are no use case for me where it can be realy annoying, because we are always talking about 1 to 3 seconds!
also, mi old Galaxy S with CM9 isn't faster .
I am also waiting for root (battery life is ok for me since v10d although my wifi is on all the time), but since this phone is realy new, an not as popular as Samsung ans HTC's flagships, I know that it will take more time.
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Are there any other reasons to jump ship?
Reviews talk about how far the display is from the screen? Is that bad?
Someone from LG told me that the 4XHD can record phone calls (when in conversation go to voicerecorder and start recording, you should hear a beep every 10 seconds orso). Can someone verify this? I know that the SGSII & III can't nor the One X.
Some reviews also talk about the phone being too quiet? How is the volume when ringing? When in a pocket or coat (in a pouch)?
How's in call audio? How's the earpiece audio?
I'm just wondering if when used as a phone the 4xHD is a better option then the OneX? The One X has a proper notification led which is bright unlike the one from the Xperia U (which the sales dip**** should have said before I bought the damn thing). The One X IS loud when playing music and video so assume it's as loud when ringing. The OneX's screen looks great. But it can't record calls which is important for me.
The price difference is about 30 euro's between OneX and 4xHD
Cheers.
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Are there any other reasons to jump ship?
Reviews talk about how far the display is from the screen? Is that bad?
Someone from LG told me that the 4XHD can record phone calls (when in conversation go to voicerecorder and start recording, you should hear a beep every 10 seconds orso). Can someone verify this? I know that the SGSII & III can't nor the One X.
Some reviews also talk about the phone being too quiet? How is the volume when ringing? When in a pocket or coat (in a pouch)?
How's in call audio? How's the earpiece audio?
I'm just wondering if when used as a phone the 4xHD is a better option then the OneX? The One X has a proper notification led which is bright unlike the one from the Xperia U (which the sales dip**** should have said before I bought the damn thing). The One X IS loud when playing music and video so assume it's as loud when ringing. The OneX's screen looks great. But it can't record calls which is important for me.
The price difference is about 30 euro's between OneX and 4xHD
Cheers.
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OneX and 4xHD are both bad in terms of battery HOWEVER the 4xHD has a bigger and replacable battery.
Also 4xHD's screen is on par with the OneX and thereby the best I've seen to date. (Better than new iPad btw)
Had no issues with sound at all. Speaker is crystal clear (sometimes a bit too clear but still very good), didn't try the music with LG earpieces though. Other earpieces sounded good to me.
Volume of the ringtone... No idea. Didn't really care but haven't missed a call for now, so I suppose it's good enough.
4xHD also has an micro SD card slot (up to 64 gb) wich in my eyes is a huge advantage.
Plus I had nothing but good with LG so far.
You should only consider buying the OneX if:
You need the additional community support (LG will never attract as many devs however cyanogenmod will most likely be ported as soon as it's rooted. (Probably even officially supported))
You need the best camera in town (Except for Nokias 41 Mpix phone-camera of course)... read you need the fastest camera in town.
You need Sense. (LG's is more smooth and really (I mean REALLY REALLY) among the best, however it's just not as polished as HTC's)
You need Dropbox Space (You get Box.net space with LG I think. Too bad I don't really use that.) (OneX has up to 25gb for 2 years).
If you said no to one or all of the above:
Get the LG.
BTW For me Samsung S3 is a no no because of the design, the crappy touchwhizz and the worse screen in sunlight... But it does have the even larger community support and the supposedly less energy consuming processor.
Hey guys
Just to let you know if your having problems with the stock 4x then you can complain to LG about it. On their chat support you can ask to raise a VOC (voice of customer) then give them suggestions and improvements. When I talked to support the guy did try to help even though I don't have an optimus 4X.
I'm sure they'll try to help if they can.
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