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Incredible S Or Lg Optimus 2x

Hello Everybody..
I been itching to upgrade my phone and purchase an Android based phone since months and just when i was set to purchase Incredible S.. these dual cores start popping up.
I am not too much of a geek to fall for the dual cores straightaway, esp when the OS/Apps arent optimized for dual, still thought about considering Lg Optimus 2x as both are closely matched regarding the pricing in my area.
Preference:-
1) Battery
Need to have the battery lasting through the day on moderate/decent usage.
2) Camera
Cant ignore this aspect. Basically still photography. Videos shdnt be horrible either.
3) Ofc the sensible purchase Out of Incrdible S / 2x
Been reading lots of reviews and what not but still a little doubt remains.
Even though totally sold on the HTC Sensation.. the phone might not debut here for another month and a half and more importantly will open with a huge price difference (taking 2x/Incredible S in view)
Advice/Suggestions needed guys.

If you ask me, I will never buy LG phone.
I am HTC fan and I can tell you that Incredible S is one of the best HTC phones till now. My previous phone was Desire HD. Incredible S is much, much better.

Thanks greggy..
Oh and one more thing.. Camera is another thing which needs to be counted in.
Updating original post as well.

I have tried both. And send the LG back.
Camera, battery, software is crap.
I have bought an incredible now and it's absolutely cool.
Camera is quite good.
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Formel-LMS said:
I have tried both. And send the LG back.
Camera, battery, software is crap.
I have bought an incredible now and it's absolutely cool.
Camera is quite good.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk
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Heyy I remember you from the Nexus One threads! Cool you're a Incredible S convert as well

I've just bought a new HTC Incredible S. Looks nice, however i realized that the phone signal drops 1 line if I grab the phone with my full hand sovering the top.
Anyway, what makes HTC better than the LG Optimus X2? I'm a fan of HTC.. but according to the features.. the X2 should be much better than our HTC

gregy74 said:
If you ask me, I will never buy LG phone.
I am HTC fan and I can tell you that Incredible S is one of the best HTC phones till now. My previous phone was Desire HD. Incredible S is much, much better.
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Same dilema here, but with the desire s instead of this!
Is dual core just overhyped?
also may i ask, why did you upgrade from a dhd to the incredible s?
Is it coz of battery?

emarcoss said:
.. but according to the features.. the X2 should be much better than our HTC
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i believe the answer lies with the combo of a better optimised s/w + RAM.
Thanks to 'Formel-LMS' we have a comment from a user who tried his hands on both the phones. Thanks to him.
I've just bought a new HTC Incredible S. Looks nice, however i realized that the phone signal drops 1 line if I grab the phone with my full hand sovering the top.
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That's due to the incorrect way of holding the phone.
Basically Phones are never meant to be held with fingers anywhere near the antenna as that interferes with the signal reception..and i think that is exactly what happened with you.

spacescreamer said:
Preference:-
1) Battery
Need to have the battery lasting through the day on moderate/decent usage.
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Don't count on the dual-core chips having better battery life until a process shrink.

Formel-LMS said:
I have tried both. And send the LG back.
Camera, battery, software is crap.
I have bought an incredible now and it's absolutely cool.
Camera is quite good.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk
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Same here. HD filming is also very nice, but takes a lot of SD memory.
Device is very fast,
Also the speed of the serviceprovider is very important. Check with others.
From Nameit's HTC Incredible s using XDA app!

i dont like the LG

gregy74 said:
If you ask me, I will never buy LG phone.
I am HTC fan and I can tell you that Incredible S is one of the best HTC phones till now. My previous phone was Desire HD. Incredible S is much, much better.
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same here, my previous one was HD2, love the S

Gihanfx said:
same here, my previous one was HD2, love the S
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I was stupid to buy LG 2x seeing positive reviews, everything is crap, phone is getting switched off on its own, too much hassel, i wont go for LG again
only positive thing about lg is root freindly, but i believe incredible s will come around, but i thought same for legend & it never picked up

Hi ppl
I have read this tread and realised that there have been a lot of dislikes about the LG optimus 2x. I am actually a user for both the 2x and Incredible S. so i can tell you the pros and cons for each phones...
Yes i have to admit when the LG came out fresh from the box it does have its flaws but it is mainly due to LG programmers... It hangs lags and self restart but after a firmware upgrade (10A to 10B) all these problems are gone! Now it is fast and smooth and it has not given me any problem since then!
Of course it is still not perfect! there are atill some flaws i will get back to that later...
Now to the HTC
firstly i have to admit the HTC sense do really make life easier! especially if you upgrade from 1 HTC to another HTC!
Apart from the usual Gmail sync that you get for all android phone, HTC sense actually automatically sync everything! settings, ringtones and including your SMS! This is a big plus point actually! Also sense makes contact management a breeze as you can link each contact to their email, face book, whatsapp...
This really help you see your things about your friends easily without the need of switching from one programme to another...
To sum up the pros and cons...
Pros for 2x
Camera both is 8mp but LG is much sharper and also in dark situation, LG actually uses its LED Flash to auto focus first so you will get sharp picture even in dark situation.
As compared to the HTC it does not perform well in dark situations and it does not use its LED to help focus the objects.
Also the flash on 2x is actually brighter then the dual LED on the HTC.
2x has full HD video recording while HTC is only 720p... 2x is really nice when it comes to video recording.
2x has built in 8GB of memory and it can still be further increased Via micro SD while HTC only has 1gb for programs...
LG has direct HDMI output and it really output to my TV at Full HD
LG has better sound quality speaker, it rings and sound much louder!
LG has better screen picture quality.
LG has better battery life compared to HTC. HTC can't last more then 10 hours without charging but LG can... Usually when my HTC die my LG still has about 20 percent.
Lg somehow has better signal level compared to HTC... this could be due to the fact that HTC tried to cut cost and put the Signal antenna to the battery cover so if you cover with your hands you will get a drastic signal drop.
cons for LG
Facebook integration is not as good as htc
thicker and heavier then htc.
Pros for HTC
HTC Sense! it is a really big plus point! it is really useful.
Better user experience... Examples are that you do not have to do screen unlock to skip the next music track when you are listening to music wherelse LG have to unlock the screen and go to the music menu to go to the next track!
Email SMS inbox can be seen on the screen without going into the program itself (again thanks to HTC sense widgets).
Cons
Sorry some of the cons are actually mention on the LG's pro for comparision.
examples are the camera and video recording are not as good as the LG.
Battery life is considerable less.
sometimes it is really sluggish (could be also due to the fact that htc sense is a resource eater!)
for now i can only report till here...
all i can say is HTC is really way ahead from all the competitor in android for its programming!
and also i prefer the build quality on the LG itself! it feels more solid!
PS. For all the people who has LG 2x and expericeing hanging please just do a simple upgrade of firmware as it really improve and solve all the problems.
I hope this helps!

Optimus 2X has a Tegra dual core, HDMI, 1080p HD recording, gyroscope,
however, it only has 512MB RAM, it's a big disadvantage
BTW: I don't trust LG phone's quality, i'd prefer Incredible S ...

At carphone warehouse in the uk, the incredible s cost more than the lg! Then the wildfire s cost only £50 less than the lg. So ppl in uk have already negative views of it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEeulajPlkk#
Show's that dual core and quadrant score don' mean jack in day to day stuff.
Don't fall into the more is better trap that people fell for with their PC processors. It took folks about two years to realise (unless you spend your life gaming) it was total ****.

coolnil said:
Hi ppl
I have read this tread and realised that there have been a lot of dislikes about the LG optimus 2x. I am actually a user for both the 2x and Incredible S. so i can tell you the pros and cons for each phones...
Yes i have to admit when the LG came out fresh from the box it does have its flaws but it is mainly due to LG programmers... It hangs lags and self restart but after a firmware upgrade (10A to 10B) all these problems are gone! Now it is fast and smooth and it has not given me any problem since then!
Of course it is still not perfect! there are atill some flaws i will get back to that later...
Now to the HTC
firstly i have to admit the HTC sense do really make life easier! especially if you upgrade from 1 HTC to another HTC!
Apart from the usual Gmail sync that you get for all android phone, HTC sense actually automatically sync everything! settings, ringtones and including your SMS! This is a big plus point actually! Also sense makes contact management a breeze as you can link each contact to their email, face book, whatsapp...
This really help you see your things about your friends easily without the need of switching from one programme to another...
To sum up the pros and cons...
Pros for 2x
Camera both is 8mp but LG is much sharper and also in dark situation, LG actually uses its LED Flash to auto focus first so you will get sharp picture even in dark situation.
As compared to the HTC it does not perform well in dark situations and it does not use its LED to help focus the objects.
Also the flash on 2x is actually brighter then the dual LED on the HTC.
2x has full HD video recording while HTC is only 720p... 2x is really nice when it comes to video recording.
2x has built in 8GB of memory and it can still be further increased Via micro SD while HTC only has 1gb for programs...
LG has direct HDMI output and it really output to my TV at Full HD
LG has better sound quality speaker, it rings and sound much louder!
LG has better screen picture quality.
LG has better battery life compared to HTC. HTC can't last more then 10 hours without charging but LG can... Usually when my HTC die my LG still has about 20 percent.
Lg somehow has better signal level compared to HTC... this could be due to the fact that HTC tried to cut cost and put the Signal antenna to the battery cover so if you cover with your hands you will get a drastic signal drop.
cons for LG
Facebook integration is not as good as htc
thicker and heavier then htc.
Pros for HTC
HTC Sense! it is a really big plus point! it is really useful.
Better user experience... Examples are that you do not have to do screen unlock to skip the next music track when you are listening to music wherelse LG have to unlock the screen and go to the music menu to go to the next track!
Email SMS inbox can be seen on the screen without going into the program itself (again thanks to HTC sense widgets).
Cons
Sorry some of the cons are actually mention on the LG's pro for comparision.
examples are the camera and video recording are not as good as the LG.
Battery life is considerable less.
sometimes it is really sluggish (could be also due to the fact that htc sense is a resource eater!)
for now i can only report till here...
all i can say is HTC is really way ahead from all the competitor in android for its programming!
and also i prefer the build quality on the LG itself! it feels more solid!
PS. For all the people who has LG 2x and expericeing hanging please just do a simple upgrade of firmware as it really improve and solve all the problems.
I hope this helps!
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Can someone comment about the battery? cuz reviews say it can last 1-2 days easily with light to moderate use

mazinya said:
Can someone comment about the battery? cuz reviews say it can last 1-2 days easily with light to moderate use
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I am very happy with Iicredible s battery, i dont know about lg as the phone i had was playing freeze game with me, whenever i left the phone on its own it would freeze and will only respond to pulling battery!!

mazinya said:
Can someone comment about the battery? cuz reviews say it can last 1-2 days easily with light to moderate use
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Yes, I am rarely below 40% after 24 hours. Usage typically consists of Exchange and gmail updates every 15 minutes, light browsing and periodic widget updates. The screen brightness will affect this though.
And this is without having to resort to a task killer.

Thinking about buying the incredible S

I was thinking on getting either the desire s or the incredible s. Im a moderate user therefore i have no need in a dual core phone or a 4.3" size which is too big for me. Also, i dont think im going to root it,so the fact that it has no root option doesnt concern me.
Im still not 100% sure, but im more leaning towards the incredible due to its 4" screen which seems just the right size for me and since i hear a lot about the wifi problem the desire s has.
Still, a few things i would like to know about the incredible s before buying it.
1. I would like to have a phone that has as less problems as possible (ie, random non stop reboots, etc). Does the incredible fits that? some ppl say it heats on the back quite a lot.. is that true?
2. Battery life.. i read mixed comments about it from ppl saying it doesnt even lasts 12 hours with light to moderate use... is that true? is the battery as bad as the previous htc desire?
2. Is there support for divx this time? or would i have to convert files to mp4?
Any other major issues this phone has which i should know about?

mazinya said:
I was thinking on getting either the desire s or the incredible s. Im a moderate user therefore i have no need in a dual core phone or a 4.3" size which is too big for me. Also, i dont think im going to root it,so the fact that it has no root option doesnt concern me.
Im still not 100% sure, but im more leaning towards the incredible due to its 4" screen which seems just the right size for me and since i hear a lot about the wifi problem the desire s has.
Still, a few things i would like to know about the incredible s before buying it.
1. I would like to have a phone that has as less problems as possible (ie, random non stop reboots, etc). Does the incredible fits that? some ppl say it heats on the back quite a lot.. is that true?
I've had no problems with my incredible s, it rebooted once but that has never happened since and i think it was my fault , i've experienced no heat what so every even under heavy usage
2. Battery life.. i read mixed comments about it from ppl saying it doesnt even lasts 12 hours with light to moderate use... is that true? is the battery as bad as the previous htc desire?
For me with moderate usage it has lasted 18 hours and still about 20% battery left, battery is great
2. Is there support for divx this time? or would i have to convert files to mp4?
As far as i know it supports divx
Any other major issues this phone has which i should know about?
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You will fall in love with it... that's about it

Thanks for your reply, makes me feel better about purchasing it

ok serious this is for me the last time i made a review or gave any info about this device, since most info can allready be found on the forum....
wifi - no probs
battery temperature - yes it gets hot.. but it depends how you use it... extreme usage is hot battery, also the weather around you has an influance on it offcourse... Like Fisk lives in stockholm.... no doubt it wont get hot over there LOL
battery lifetime - if you cant make it a full day than you would suprise me big time, when i used bluetooth wifi, heavily gaming, browsing on the web and having bad signals mostly of the day. i can make it for rougly 16-18 hours.
reboots - allot, my fault tho since im busy writing my own **** in here but standard... only had it once, and never after again.
divx - hmm i did not test that... so i dont know... but im almost sure it does
flash supported - offcourse
sound quality - according to others seems to be better than the devices that been delivered before
hope you got enough info on this now

Hawkysoft said:
battery temperature - yes it gets hot.. but it depends how you use it... extreme usage is hot battery, also the weather around you has an influance on it offcourse... Like Fisk lives in stockholm.... no doubt it wont get hot over there LOL
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Haha true true

Was all up for buying a Desire S until i read nightmare issues with wifi dropouts, so now it's down to the incredible or desire HD.
I think they both have the same software, HD has bigger screen?

mrHD2 said:
Was all up for buying a Desire S until i read nightmare issues with wifi dropouts, so now it's down to the incredible or desire HD.
I think they both have the same software, HD has bigger screen?
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HTC Incredible S has a slightly smaller screen (Desire HD had a 4.3 inch screen while the Incredible S has a 4 inch screen), a 1.3 megapixel front facing camera, slightly larger battery and better screen quality.
If you want a big screen, get the Desire HD. Otherwise, get the Incredible S.

PinkMirrorKirby said:
If you want a big screen, get the Desire HD. Otherwise, get the Incredible S.
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More specifically, if you expect to use it one handed get the Incredible S. The DHD is too big for this IMO.

1. I would like to have a phone that has as less problems as possible (ie, random non stop reboots, etc). Does the incredible fits that? some ppl say it heats on the back quite a lot.. is that true?
have beening using the phone for two weeks now. Don't have any problem, for me at least.
2. Battery life.. i read mixed comments about it from ppl saying it doesnt even lasts 12 hours with light to moderate use... is that true? is the battery as bad as the previous htc desire?
The battery is not too bad. If you are a moderate user, it surely can last for one day (maybe two days).
2. Is there support for divx this time? or would i have to convert files to mp4?
Haveb't tried this yet. Don't like watching movie on a phone (screen is too small for me).
My only certain is the plastic-like back cover. The back cover feels very fragile and the antena is painted ( or glued) on the it. If you don't put the back cover on, the phone won't have any signal at all. After all, it's not bad. Compared with other phones, it's not that expensive.
Hope it help

desire s doesn't have bootloader and other locks ...

qexing said:
desire s doesn't have bootloader and other locks ...
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And im santa
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mazinya said:
I was thinking on getting either the desire s or the incredible s. Im a moderate user therefore i have no need in a dual core phone or a 4.3" size which is too big for me. Also, i dont think im going to root it,so the fact that it has no root option doesnt concern me.
Im still not 100% sure, but im more leaning towards the incredible due to its 4" screen which seems just the right size for me and since i hear a lot about the wifi problem the desire s has.
Still, a few things i would like to know about the incredible s before buying it.
1. I would like to have a phone that has as less problems as possible (ie, random non stop reboots, etc). Does the incredible fits that? some ppl say it heats on the back quite a lot.. is that true?
2. Battery life.. i read mixed comments about it from ppl saying it doesnt even lasts 12 hours with light to moderate use... is that true? is the battery as bad as the previous htc desire?
2. Is there support for divx this time? or would i have to convert files to mp4?
Any other major issues this phone has which i should know about?
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Seriously!! The day you posted this the Desire S offer from o2 ran out!! Get the desire s!!!
It was £6.37 a month on o2, free phone, 24 months on 21-22nd april, special offer! We both missed it out! (after quidco cashback)
FREEE PHONE
250 texts
100 mns
100 mb
£6.37 , free sim free desire s
WHAT A DEAL!
Shame we missed it :/
Total of £160

olyloh6696 said:
Seriously!! The day you posted this the Desire S offer from o2 ran out!! Get the desire s!!!
It was £6.37 a month on o2, free phone, 24 months on 21-22nd april, special offer! We both missed it out! (after quidco cashback)
FREEE PHONE
250 texts
100 mns
100 mb
£6.37 , free sim free desire s
WHAT A DEAL!
Shame we missed it :/
Total of £160
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Im not from the UK, so it doesnt matter to me..
anyway, i think im gonna wait for the sensation to come out and see if the price for the incredible is going to drop a bit (which i hope it will)
Btw, anyone knows the SAR rating of the IS?

anyone can answer my question above?

0.876 head, 0.776 body (both values w/[email protected])
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk

l0st.prophet said:
0.876 head, 0.776 body (both values w/[email protected])
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk
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Im assuming those are good values if im not mistaken?

Are those good values?
btw, did anyone try to play divx with the phone and can tell me if it works well?

hey,
i was going to start a similar thread.. but
i am also stuck between desire S and incredible S.
i absolutely love desire s unibody design, and i dont really care about the wifi prob (besides there is some kind of fix to it as well), only concerns are ... the build quality: lots of ppl are talking about loose battery covers and screen not fitting in place lol, also the camera seems pretty lame...but the form factor/ screen size- perfect !
but incredible S... seems to have more developers to get the root (tho i think it will be ported to desire s as well afterwards... yea ?), but its only got froyo, not gingerbread, and its a bit too large, and not so darn beautiful >.<
and hows the music quality through the headphones (good stereo ? bass ?) and loudspeaker (no distortion ? loud ?) ?
only drawback- the bootloader on these phones and sense UI... would love CM 7 possibility

xilw3r said:
hey,
i was going to start a similar thread.. but
i am also stuck between desire S and incredible S.
i absolutely love desire s unibody design, and i dont really care about the wifi prob (besides there is some kind of fix to it as well), only concerns are ... the build quality: lots of ppl are talking about loose battery covers and screen not fitting in place lol, also the camera seems pretty lame...but the form factor/ screen size- perfect !
but incredible S... seems to have more developers to get the root (tho i think it will be ported to desire s as well afterwards... yea ?), but its only got froyo, not gingerbread, and its a bit too large, and not so darn beautiful >.<
and hows the music quality through the headphones (good stereo ? bass ?) and loudspeaker (no distortion ? loud ?) ?
only drawback- the bootloader on these phones and sense UI... would love CM 7 possibility
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mazinya said:
I was thinking on getting either the desire s or the incredible s. Im a moderate user therefore i have no need in a dual core phone or a 4.3" size which is too big for me. Also, i dont think im going to root it,so the fact that it has no root option doesnt concern me.
Im still not 100% sure, but im more leaning towards the incredible due to its 4" screen which seems just the right size for me and since i hear a lot about the wifi problem the desire s has.
Still, a few things i would like to know about the incredible s before buying it.
1. I would like to have a phone that has as less problems as possible (ie, random non stop reboots, etc). Does the incredible fits that? some ppl say it heats on the back quite a lot.. is that true?
Been using it all day, setting it up, etc etc. No problems yet.
2. Battery life.. i read mixed comments about it from ppl saying it doesnt even lasts 12 hours with light to moderate use... is that true? is the battery as bad as the previous htc desire?
Have been using it almost nonstop for the last 8 hrs. Battery is ALOT better than my iPhone 4!
2. Is there support for divx this time? or would i have to convert files to mp4?
I downloaded Mobo Player. It played flv, mpeg, avi, and mp4.
Any other major issues this phone has which i should know about?
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I just got this phone yesterday, and so far I like it!!

[Q] should i buy this ...thing ?

Hi guys,
i am thinking to buy optimus 2x or desire s. (they both cost almost the same, minor diff), i dont even dare call optimus 2x a phone anymore
desire s:
cool looking, metal body, great size,
BUT sucky camera, non rootable without xtc clip, no devs working on it, and some battery cover problems (squeaky)
optimus 2x:
LOTS of devs (which im hoping will fix the reboot issue), CM (yeaa!), great camera, hardware etc...
BUT its rebooting, getting very hot (for many), screen backlight bleeding and generaly unstable phone... my only gripes with it.
im so lost. any advice is VERY appreciated

The hardware for the Desire S is a real let-down IMHO. I've found my O2X to be stable generally, the early nightlies of CM7 weren't great but after about 10 they really improved. LG's software sucks but the phone is still usable, if laggy.
I've had no heat issue (if anything it runs cooler than my old Desire, if not my DEXT). Likewise the screen bleeding issue. I wouldn't choose any other phone right now.

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The hardware for the Desire S is a real let-down IMHO. I've found my O2X to be stable generally, the early nightlies of CM7 weren't great but after about 10 they really improved. LG's software sucks but the phone is still usable, if laggy.
I've had no heat issue (if anything it runs cooler than my old Desire, if not my DEXT). Likewise the screen bleeding issue. I wouldn't choose any other phone right now.
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and if i may ask, for how long have you had your o2x ?

Looolll.
Is like comparing a Toyota with a Ferrari....
Ofcourse LG O2X.
I have mine since day one of release.
Some times (once a week or in 2 weeks) BSOD.
Phone never gets warm or what so ever.
Kept it stock for a long time. Rooted my phone like 2 weeks ago.
Just for Adfree, nothing else.

Had mine for a week. Stabile as rock! Not one reboot. No heat issues.
I have frozen antivirus and drivemehome (perhaps those who make the device reboot??)
My battery is good for 2 days with moderate use on 2G network. Have disabled 3G...
The backlight bleeding is a problem with all LCD screen more or less. I dont know why you want to stare at the screen while its pitch black in a room without light... I have some bleeding, but never bothers me. It is usually something to see in the screen

and what about the other loads of ppl who have bsod 5 times per day :| ?
i just really dont want want to go wrong with this because return is not an option

xilw3r said:
and what about the other loads of ppl who have bsod 5 times per day :| ?
i just really dont want want to go wrong with this because return is not an option
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Just play with your phone hardcore for 3 days.
If any BSOD, REBOOT, hot tempure will occure you can go to the store en switch the phone.
And if your phone has these issues, I think you will notice it on the hardcore 3 day use.

xmoo said:
Just play with your phone hardcore for 3 days.
If any BSOD, REBOOT, hot tempure will occure you can go to the store en switch the phone.
And if your phone has these issues, I think you will notice it on the hardcore 3 day use.
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I would do the opposite actually. Using the phone will give you no issues, it's only when left alone that the problems occur.
I seriously wouldn't risk this phone to be honest. You're guaranteed to have issues in one way or another, and you shouldn't have to root and void your warranty to get a reliable phone.

IMHO, if you can wait, I would suggest waiting 6 weeks to 2 months to see how the dual-core phone scene pans out. I think gingerbread would likely be on LG2X by then, as would improved stability on other dual-core phones as well. Also, like all electronic products, the longer you wait to buy - the cheaper they become.

keep in mind that some people had the O2X for 3 weeks before they started getting reboots/ freezes and BSOD. Just saying

Just you wait a little more while. CM7 will be as stable as a rock soon enough.
IMO. The Desire S should be around 2/3 the price of O2X to make it any worthy compared to O2X. It's just an upgraded version of the original Desire with a high pricetag.

The desire and incredible s work out of the box though. Without random reboots and freezes. If you just want a phone that works, I would go with the desire.
The 2x is great hardware for the money, but hardware isn't everything. I'm saying if you were concerned about problems, this really isn't the handset for you. Because you are 99% guaranteed to have issues.
If you are buying this with the intention to hack the hell out of it, you might be ok. You can't beat it's hardware to price ratio.
Don't even think about running this phone on stock if that is your intention.
It still hasn't been fully determined if anyone running stock, no root, no changes haven't had issues. Checking the various threads, I can't see anyone using stock that doesn't have issues. Most have either rooted and frozen apps, or put a complete new rom on.
If there are people running stock and don't have issues, they are a minority at best.
The op is saying a return isn't really an option to them. If so, then look elsewhere.

I hacked the **** out of it. And I love it. I could get an sgs2 but I didnt and thats saying a lot.
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Go for the o2x really great phone, had mine since day 1 and its never let me down, really glad i choose this over both desire s and sgs2
Hope this helps u decide, and let us know what u get.
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thanks guys. idk, i think im more leaning towards optimus 2x now, cuz of CM mostly, but then again, the size is kinda huge especially for a 4 inch screen.
and 1 more question, hows the audio quality through headphones ? i read in gsmarena that stereo crosstalk is pretty awful, what do you people think ? its kind of important cuz i always use my phone as a music player

Why isn't the stock ROM an option? My first handset had to be replaced on day one. My replacement has BSOD once in a month. BSOD aside, the stock ROM really aint that bad - the LG home app isn't so great, but replace it with Go Launcher (or Launcher Pro or. . . ) and it's fine.
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If you are buying this with the intention to hack the hell out of it, you might be ok. You can't beat it's hardware to price ratio.
Don't even think about running this phone on stock if that is your intention.
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goatee said:
Why isn't the stock ROM an option? My first handset had to be replaced on day one. My replacement has BSOD once in a month. BSOD aside, the stock ROM really aint that bad - the LG home app isn't so great, but replace it with Go Launcher (or Launcher Pro or. . . ) and it's fine.
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lol this bsod stuff looks so god darn random, i wish it was more concentrated so ppl could determine the ultimate cause.
btw another Q, hows the call quality ? and still: hows the sound through headphones ( is the stereo cross talk bearable ? cuz gsmarena said its pretty sucky, wondering how is it in real life situations)

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lol this bsod stuff looks so god darn random, i wish it was more concentrated so ppl could determine the ultimate cause.
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You're not the only one!
xilw3r said:
btw another Q, hows the call quality ? and still: hows the sound through headphones ( is the stereo cross talk bearable ? cuz gsmarena said its pretty sucky, wondering how is it in real life situations)
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I've found the call quality to be fine - in quiet situations, it's excellent, in noise situations it's fine. I've not used the handsfree, so don't know how calls are through headphones, but music is aok .

goatee said:
but music is aok .
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thanks do you use the supplied headphones or your own ?

Np - I use my own - Goldring NS1000.
xilw3r said:
thanks do you use the supplied headphones or your own ?
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Soo... How is it?

Long story short, att messed up and ended up crediting me the price of my upgrade ($220) and pushing up my upgrade to eligible.
Ive had my eye on the one since it first was rumored but haven't heard much from people who actually have it.
Soo.... How is it? Should i use my newly obtained upgrade for this or should i wait it out some..
Two in the Pink
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See what people think.

Excellent, I've not regretted choosing it - it's all I wanted.
I've upgraded from a Sammy S2. My primary phone usage is actually as a media player... A bit of on demand telly, but mostly listening to mp3s at work, and podcasts when I'm having a soak in the bath or lazing around at home.
The stereo speakers make such a difference, as does the Beats processing. It's a world away from the tinny output of the Samsung (which was in most other aspects an excellent phone, especially when I had Cyanogen on it to freshen it up)
Build quality is excellent, it really does feel great. Still not quite as impressive as an iPhone 4 though, but the best of the rest.
The screen is pin sharp. I'd like the automatic brightness to be biased a little brighter though (or customisable)
The Ui is truly butter smooth (Xperia z I tried in the shop was a lag-fest and very disappointing in comparison)
Blink feed is actually pretty good. I've always used Taptu for my news feed. Blink is allegedly going to be improved in the future.. It won't take much improvement to supplant Taptu entirely.
I've barely scratched the surface of Zoe, but it's impressed me so far. I've not even tried the Highlight options yet.
The camera seems to take good pictures, especially in low light... The flash hasn't kicked in for me yet!
Sense 5 is well designed, it looks good. I like the way the app drawer contents can be viewed in multiple ways and a custom view set up.
The phone must be powerful - it seems to play Real Racing 3 as well as my iPad - very impressive!
Battery life has seemed good, it doesn't eat battery on standby, but does during heavy use.. Which is understandable. I don't think I have enough experience to really say if it's good or bad compared to other phones, but its not died unexpectedly on me.
The phone seems stable... No crashes or lockups... Pretty good for such a new phone?
My gripes?
The phone got very, very hot when using Navigation whilst charging, with satellite image layer turned on.
I miss the menu button. and the Sammys physically clickable home button.. a bit.
I'd like the back and home buttons to be permanently lit, they don't show in bright or medium lighting.
I summary, yes I'd definitely buy this again if I had the choice

This is my third Android phone, previously owned Desire HD, One X (Tegra 3 - international version).
Only had One for two weeks, but so far really happy with it, no problems with build quality or functions.
Would go as far as to say it's the best phone I've owned.
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i love my htc one. I picked it up a week ago. I've had iphones for the passed 4 years and didnt fancy the 5.
I went in to pick up an xperia z, but changed my mind for the one.
Ive used it more or less constantly since I got it, it has not crashed once, its fantastic.
I wasnt sure after ios for so long Id get on with it, but I love it. Il list why,
The speakers are fantastic, it really sounds great. The music player is impressive
The camera takes nice looking photos, the colours seem perfect. Theres alot to the camera I havent played with yet.
Everything is lag free, not just lag free, but impressively fast.
Blinkfeed is quite nice, although when I grab my phone to do something I end end up reading interesting news instead
I like android a lot more than I though I would.
Its an amazing phone. Hard to put it down. I looked through all the available phones, to me it was the winner, it is beautiful
The screen is just awesome.
Battery life has been good, it lasts as long as youd expect it to.
Sorry if i sound like a htc one sales man. its a lovely phone. Get one
Jas

One word, awesome!!! That is all
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It rocks! Best phone I've had (coming from a Sensation)
Great battery life
Incredible camera
Beautiful design
Smooth & fast
There is a lot more to it but those are the winning points for me!

Best phone i've ever had.
One massive thing i've noticed with the camera is that you don't have to stay super still for shots. The shutter is so fast i think it's the first phone i've ever come across with a LED flash that actually competes with cameras that have a xenon flash.
I went out last night and each picture i took in a low lit pub was superb, genuinely amazed at the camera and its quickness.
The Boomsound is awesome, the phone is so fast, the camera is great and the screen is A class. Literally the best phone i've ever had and the best purchase i've made in a long time.
I am soooo chuffed i got this and not the Z ( just for its waterproof feature ) which id probably never use.

I think the only thing that worries me is the battery life, is it atleast in the 8hr range with moderate to heavy use?
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MrPlNK said:
I think the only thing that worries me is the battery life, is it atleast in the 8hr range with moderate to heavy use?
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Hmmm, tricky to say - I've not spent more than an hour in one go where I've used the phone heavily (constantly browsing / watching video / downloading apps etc), but haven't been within reach of a charger and a power point. My Sammy S2 often ate battery even when in standby so I bought extra chargers and distributed them around the house
However... my experience of checking the battery usage graph when it's unplugged is that
1) the line is nicely horizontal when in standby
2) the line doesn't resemble a cliff when the screen is on and I'm doing something.
If you want some rather more scientific results, best check the reviews... I recommend the Anandtech review here. It's a great piece of tech writing

RostokMcSpoons said:
Excellent, I've not regretted choosing it - it's all I wanted.
I've upgraded from a Sammy S2. My primary phone usage is actually as a media player... A bit of on demand telly, but mostly listening to mp3s at work, and podcasts when I'm having a soak in the bath or lazing around at home.
The stereo speakers make such a difference, as does the Beats processing. It's a world away from the tinny output of the Samsung (which was in most other aspects an excellent phone, especially when I had Cyanogen on it to freshen it up)
Build quality is excellent, it really does feel great. Still not quite as impressive as an iPhone 4 though, but the best of the rest.
The screen is pin sharp. I'd like the automatic brightness to be biased a little brighter though (or customisable)
The Ui is truly butter smooth (Xperia z I tried in the shop was a lag-fest and very disappointing in comparison)
Blink feed is actually pretty good. I've always used Taptu for my news feed. Blink is allegedly going to be improved in the future.. It won't take much improvement to supplant Taptu entirely.
I've barely scratched the surface of Zoe, but it's impressed me so far. I've not even tried the Highlight options yet.
The camera seems to take good pictures, especially in low light... The flash hasn't kicked in for me yet!
Sense 5 is well designed, it looks good. I like the way the app drawer contents can be viewed in multiple ways and a custom view set up.
The phone must be powerful - it seems to play Real Racing 3 as well as my iPad - very impressive!
Battery life has seemed good, it doesn't eat battery on standby, but does during heavy use.. Which is understandable. I don't think I have enough experience to really say if it's good or bad compared to other phones, but its not died unexpectedly on me.
The phone seems stable... No crashes or lockups... Pretty good for such a new phone?
My gripes?
The phone got very, very hot when using Navigation whilst charging, with satellite image layer turned on.
I miss the menu button. and the Sammys physically clickable home button.. a bit.
I'd like the back and home buttons to be permanently lit, they don't show in bright or medium lighting.
I summary, yes I'd definitely buy this again if I had the choice
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The Xperia Z, a lag fest? Keep telling yourself that. Whatever makes you feel comfortable with your purchase.
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Can't really fault it too be honest, still in a love/hate relationship with blinkfeed but other than that it's not skipped a bit, zero lag and everything is super smooth no matter what you throw at it.
Minor gripe is that htc really do need to put back in the option for long press back for menu.
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@zodiac100 Why do you feel the need to defend every last bit about the Z are you that insecure that you feel the need to police the HTC One forums looking for anyone stating anything bad about your beloved phone?

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The Xperia Z, a lag fest? Keep telling yourself that. Whatever makes you feel comfortable with your purchase.
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I was actually going to buy an Xperia Z as the idea of a waterproof phone really appealed to me (listening to podcasts in the bath). But I was sorely disappointed when I tried the Z in a couple of shops the scrolling between home screens noticeably hiccuped. Now, sure, I don't know what the rest of the phone is like, but that was enough to put me off straight away. After all if the software isn't smooth on something like that, hopes aren't going to be high about the rest of the phone. The One is smooth everywhere.
I suspect the only person telling themselves anything to keep themselves happy with their purchase is you, but it's no skin off my nose...
Edit: in retrospect 'lag-fest' in my previous post was a poor choice of words - an exaggeration. But it did, to some extent, reflect my initial impression of the phone. Perhaps, to nick the tag line of a fast food outlet,"where's the butter?" would do the trick.

Are there differences between the variants? Like will there be att, sprint, tmobile, and international development or is it all gonna be together?
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There will be variants for different radio types (CDMA vs GSM) and LTE bands. The dev edition is aimed at ATT, and I don't think will fully support T-Mobile (I don't remember seeing 1700 in the specs). Best to check compatibility before buying.

Large Hadron said:
There will be variants for different radio types (CDMA vs GSM) and LTE bands. The dev edition is aimed at ATT, and I don't think will fully support T-Mobile (I don't remember seeing 1700 in the specs). Best to check compatibility before buying.
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Great I'm buying the AT&T variant, they told me they may have them in stock today?
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My pros and cons with the Nexus 5

Hi Everyone,
I've had this phone for a good week now and got some pros and cons:
Pros
- The screen is absolutely beautiful. One of the default wallpapers is the view of a mountain with a pinkish hue - the detail is unbelievable
- The overall response time of the UI is fast as all hell
- the feel of the phone in my hand is amazing. the rubbery back (black model only) and sharp sides is beautiful
- I have not had any issues with camera. I think the pictures and video quality is fantastic. Shutter speed might not be as fast as some other phones, but im sure that can be fixed with software/roms
Cons
- Battery is random. One day i will have 2h of screen on time, 1h phone call and battery will last me 18+ hours. The next day, i will have 1h of screen time and phone will drop to 60%. My battery is currently at 68% with 5hours off charge and 1h of screen time and 1h of phone calls
- the vibration function is outright useless. I can barely feel it when i type, let alone when its on a desk and in vibe only mode
- Call quality is some what random. Sometimes the person on the other end can't hear me properly until i move my phone slightly further away from my mouth, or sometimes closer. When that happens, they say that it sounds like im talking in a tunnel.
- the Exchange email app / email.apk is very frustrating. It looks nicer than it did on 1.5 - 4.3, however it force closes very often and using the Reply All button on an email automatically adds myself to the CC, which is very frustrating. That being said, im sure the excahnge email itself has a lot of drain on my battery too, so keep that in mind when you comment on my battery usage
- I have the power button rattle too. Not too much of an issue, but still a con
- I've also had 3 or 4 cases where i lost all reception and only a reboot brought it back. I also came to my phone and found it shut off once...
Now, i dont have any real problems with the speaker quality. its not bad, but its not HTC One quality either. to me, its perfectly fine, but i know others said they have issues.
I have vibration issues, and they have speaker issues. I have a black one, they have a white one. Coincidence?
What are your thoughts on my comments above?

zoltrix said:
Hi Everyone,
I've had this phone for a good week now and got some pros and cons:
Pros
- The screen is absolutely beautiful. One of the default wallpapers is the view of a mountain with a pinkish hue - the detail is unbelievable
- The overall response time of the UI is fast as all hell
- the feel of the phone in my hand is amazing. the rubbery back (black model only) and sharp sides is beautiful
- I have not had any issues with camera. I think the pictures and video quality is fantastic. Shutter speed might not be as fast as some other phones, but im sure that can be fixed with software/roms
Cons
- Battery is random. One day i will have 2h of screen on time, 1h phone call and battery will last me 18+ hours. The next day, i will have 1h of screen time and phone will drop to 60%. My battery is currently at 68% with 5hours off charge and 1h of screen time and 1h of phone calls
- the vibration function is outright useless. I can barely feel it when i type, let alone when its on a desk and in vibe only mode
- Call quality is some what random. Sometimes the person on the other end can't hear me properly until i move my phone slightly further away from my mouth, or sometimes closer. When that happens, they say that it sounds like im talking in a tunnel.
- the Exchange email app / email.apk is very frustrating. It looks nicer than it did on 1.5 - 4.3, however it force closes very often and using the Reply All button on an email automatically adds myself to the CC, which is very frustrating. That being said, im sure the excahnge email itself has a lot of drain on my battery too, so keep that in mind when you comment on my battery usage
- I have the power button rattle too. Not too much of an issue, but still a con
- I've also had 3 or 4 cases where i lost all reception and only a reboot brought it back. I also came to my phone and found it shut off once...
Now, i dont have any real problems with the speaker quality. its not bad, but its not HTC One quality either. to me, its perfectly fine, but i know others said they have issues.
I have vibration issues, and they have speaker issues. I have a black one, they have a white one. Coincidence?
What are your thoughts on my comments above?
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For someone who is currently waiting for my Nexus 5 to ship (on 3 week backorder), this is discouraging. Right now I still have the ability to cancel the order but I could really use a new phone. Problem posts like these really make me wonder if I should keep waiting for this phone...

Had mine for 2 weeks. No problems here. I'm liking it more every day. Cheers

ximaginex said:
For someone who is currently waiting for my Nexus 5 to ship (on 3 week backorder), this is discouraging. Right now I still have the ability to cancel the order but I could really use a new phone. Problem posts like these really make me wonder if I should keep waiting for this phone...
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I know the feeling. I have received the phone 5 days ago and until that I was reading posts like this one. Until I got the phone I had low expectations but that was a good thing because right now I'm very happy with my Nexus 5. Stop reading about problems and start doing things that you love. When the phone will get home you will agree with me...

My experience
I'm sorry your having many problems with your phone.
I actually really like mine. Is the black one to.
I did a full battery calibration and I had 5 hours of hardcore screen time.
Vibration on mine is OK. But it makes the camera(Not the power button) rattle. But i hardly notice.
I like the speaker but I hope they improve the quality with an update.
My only complain would be the camera shutter. It is to damn slow.
Some mobile data connection lost but i think that is my carriers fault.
I'm really Happy with mine. And for the price this is an incredible phone. No stutter whatsoever on demanding games. It doesn't get as hot as my old Galaxy S3. Great media companion in my car and bluetooth 4.0 sips battery.
I totally recomend it.
P.S. Sorry for bad english.

Richard_Black said:
I'm sorry your having many problems with your phone.
I actually really like mine. Is the black one to.
I did a full battery calibration and I had 5 hours of hardcore screen time.
Vibration on mine is OK. But it makes the camera(Not the power button) rattle. But i hardly notice.
I like the speaker but I hope they improve the quality with an update.
My only complain would be the camera shutter. It is to damn slow.
Some mobile data connection lost but i think that is my carriers fault.
I'm really Happy with mine. And for the price this is an incredible phone. No stutter whatsoever on demanding games. It doesn't get as hot as my old Galaxy S3. Great media companion in my car and bluetooth 4.0 sips battery.
I totally recomend it.
P.S. Sorry for bad english.
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How exactly have you done a "full battery calibration" ?

icewavedesign said:
I know the feeling. I have received the phone 5 days ago and until that I was reading posts like this one. Until I got the phone I had low expectations but that was a good thing because right now I'm very happy with my Nexus 5. Stop reading about problems and start doing things that you love. When the phone will get home you will agree with me...
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When did you get yours? I'm hoping that these new ones that are being made and shipped on the 3rd of December will have the problems fixed...

let me clarify that i am extremely happy with this phone and i am just being extremely critical of minor issues
i strongly recommend it. its a 10/10 phone for me, for sure
i just wanted to point out the issue that bother me. obviously no phone is 100% flawless, but that should not discourage you

ximaginex said:
For someone who is currently waiting for my Nexus 5 to ship (on 3 week backorder), this is discouraging. Right now I still have the ability to cancel the order but I could really use a new phone. Problem posts like these really make me wonder if I should keep waiting for this phone...
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Don't let it get to you. Every phone forum has problems. Overall the n5 is a great device and I am 100 percent satisfied coming from a moto x and HTC one.
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capathy21 said:
Don't let it get to you. Every phone forum has problems. Overall the n5 is a great device and I am 100 percent satisfied coming from a moto x and HTC one.
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Posting my opinion is a problem?
Im not saying its a bad phone. i am extremely happy with it, i just wanted to list the bugs and issues that i have had with it

zoltrix said:
Posting my opinion is a problem?
Im not saying its a bad phone. i am extremely happy with it, i just wanted to list the bugs and issues that i have had with it
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No of course you can state your opinion. I didn't mean that at all. I just wanted to let them know that my experience has been very positive.

How many more one off personal review threads are we going to have?
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capathy21 said:
Don't let it get to you. Every phone forum has problems. Overall the n5 is a great device and I am 100 percent satisfied coming from a moto x and HTC one.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Thanks for the encouragement.
You like the N5 better than the Moto X and the HTC One? Is there anything in specific that you like?

The absolute best thing about the nexus 5 is kitkat, I think it is by far the best version of android.
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barondebxl said:
The absolute best thing about the nexus 5 is kitkat, I think it is by far the best version of android.
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Ice Cream Sandwich made Android approachable to the masses, and KitKat is the OS grown up. ART, when it goes mainstream and optimised even more, will make it VERY hard for any OS to beat. I also love that Android is being developed to ensure older devices are compatible, possibly reducing device waste through re-purposing.

wideasleep1 said:
Ice Cream Sandwich made Android approachable to the masses, and KitKat is the OS grown up. ART, when it goes mainstream and optimised even more, will make it VERY hard for any OS to beat. I also love that Android is being developed to ensure older devices are compatible, possibly reducing device waste through re-purposing.
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Yes ICS was the base of what the OS is now no doubt, but I find kit Kat to be really amazing. I mean the nexus 5 is so smooth and fast and the UI is simple and super clean. I much prefer the white theme over the holo blue.
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my vibration is to high that I have to lower it down a bit lol.
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barondebxl said:
Yes ICS was the base of what the OS is now no doubt, but I find kit Kat to be really amazing. I mean the nexus 5 is so smooth and fast and the UI is simple and super clean. I much prefer the white theme over the holo blue.
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Yep..I'm pleased in the overall direction..it certainly had the potential to get too busy, even ugly enough for a train wreck. One need not look further than the Nicki Minaj iOS7 screen to see things go horribly wrong!

wideasleep1 said:
Yep..I'm pleased in the overall direction..it certainly had the potential to get too busy, even ugly enough for a train wreck. One need not look further than the Nicki Minaj iOS7 screen to see things go horribly wrong!
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LMAO HAHHAHAHHA Nicky Minaj IOS! That's a great one man that's how I'm gonna call it from now on hahhHhahahhaha
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i've had mine for a week now and can't find any of the issues that you mentioned. I don't even know what this power button rattle is. maybe I'm deaf or not as picky about these things. battery life has been pretty consistent for me, It's currently getting better performance and battery then my S4 ever did