Hi guys,
i am thinking to buy optimus 2x or desire s. (they both cost almost the same, minor diff), i dont even dare call optimus 2x a phone anymore
desire s:
cool looking, metal body, great size,
BUT sucky camera, non rootable without xtc clip, no devs working on it, and some battery cover problems (squeaky)
optimus 2x:
LOTS of devs (which im hoping will fix the reboot issue), CM (yeaa!), great camera, hardware etc...
BUT its rebooting, getting very hot (for many), screen backlight bleeding and generaly unstable phone... my only gripes with it.
im so lost. any advice is VERY appreciated
The hardware for the Desire S is a real let-down IMHO. I've found my O2X to be stable generally, the early nightlies of CM7 weren't great but after about 10 they really improved. LG's software sucks but the phone is still usable, if laggy.
I've had no heat issue (if anything it runs cooler than my old Desire, if not my DEXT). Likewise the screen bleeding issue. I wouldn't choose any other phone right now.
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The hardware for the Desire S is a real let-down IMHO. I've found my O2X to be stable generally, the early nightlies of CM7 weren't great but after about 10 they really improved. LG's software sucks but the phone is still usable, if laggy.
I've had no heat issue (if anything it runs cooler than my old Desire, if not my DEXT). Likewise the screen bleeding issue. I wouldn't choose any other phone right now.
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and if i may ask, for how long have you had your o2x ?
Looolll.
Is like comparing a Toyota with a Ferrari....
Ofcourse LG O2X.
I have mine since day one of release.
Some times (once a week or in 2 weeks) BSOD.
Phone never gets warm or what so ever.
Kept it stock for a long time. Rooted my phone like 2 weeks ago.
Just for Adfree, nothing else.
Had mine for a week. Stabile as rock! Not one reboot. No heat issues.
I have frozen antivirus and drivemehome (perhaps those who make the device reboot??)
My battery is good for 2 days with moderate use on 2G network. Have disabled 3G...
The backlight bleeding is a problem with all LCD screen more or less. I dont know why you want to stare at the screen while its pitch black in a room without light... I have some bleeding, but never bothers me. It is usually something to see in the screen
and what about the other loads of ppl who have bsod 5 times per day :| ?
i just really dont want want to go wrong with this because return is not an option
xilw3r said:
and what about the other loads of ppl who have bsod 5 times per day :| ?
i just really dont want want to go wrong with this because return is not an option
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Just play with your phone hardcore for 3 days.
If any BSOD, REBOOT, hot tempure will occure you can go to the store en switch the phone.
And if your phone has these issues, I think you will notice it on the hardcore 3 day use.
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Just play with your phone hardcore for 3 days.
If any BSOD, REBOOT, hot tempure will occure you can go to the store en switch the phone.
And if your phone has these issues, I think you will notice it on the hardcore 3 day use.
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I would do the opposite actually. Using the phone will give you no issues, it's only when left alone that the problems occur.
I seriously wouldn't risk this phone to be honest. You're guaranteed to have issues in one way or another, and you shouldn't have to root and void your warranty to get a reliable phone.
IMHO, if you can wait, I would suggest waiting 6 weeks to 2 months to see how the dual-core phone scene pans out. I think gingerbread would likely be on LG2X by then, as would improved stability on other dual-core phones as well. Also, like all electronic products, the longer you wait to buy - the cheaper they become.
keep in mind that some people had the O2X for 3 weeks before they started getting reboots/ freezes and BSOD. Just saying
Just you wait a little more while. CM7 will be as stable as a rock soon enough.
IMO. The Desire S should be around 2/3 the price of O2X to make it any worthy compared to O2X. It's just an upgraded version of the original Desire with a high pricetag.
The desire and incredible s work out of the box though. Without random reboots and freezes. If you just want a phone that works, I would go with the desire.
The 2x is great hardware for the money, but hardware isn't everything. I'm saying if you were concerned about problems, this really isn't the handset for you. Because you are 99% guaranteed to have issues.
If you are buying this with the intention to hack the hell out of it, you might be ok. You can't beat it's hardware to price ratio.
Don't even think about running this phone on stock if that is your intention.
It still hasn't been fully determined if anyone running stock, no root, no changes haven't had issues. Checking the various threads, I can't see anyone using stock that doesn't have issues. Most have either rooted and frozen apps, or put a complete new rom on.
If there are people running stock and don't have issues, they are a minority at best.
The op is saying a return isn't really an option to them. If so, then look elsewhere.
I hacked the **** out of it. And I love it. I could get an sgs2 but I didnt and thats saying a lot.
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Go for the o2x really great phone, had mine since day 1 and its never let me down, really glad i choose this over both desire s and sgs2
Hope this helps u decide, and let us know what u get.
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thanks guys. idk, i think im more leaning towards optimus 2x now, cuz of CM mostly, but then again, the size is kinda huge especially for a 4 inch screen.
and 1 more question, hows the audio quality through headphones ? i read in gsmarena that stereo crosstalk is pretty awful, what do you people think ? its kind of important cuz i always use my phone as a music player
Why isn't the stock ROM an option? My first handset had to be replaced on day one. My replacement has BSOD once in a month. BSOD aside, the stock ROM really aint that bad - the LG home app isn't so great, but replace it with Go Launcher (or Launcher Pro or. . . ) and it's fine.
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If you are buying this with the intention to hack the hell out of it, you might be ok. You can't beat it's hardware to price ratio.
Don't even think about running this phone on stock if that is your intention.
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Why isn't the stock ROM an option? My first handset had to be replaced on day one. My replacement has BSOD once in a month. BSOD aside, the stock ROM really aint that bad - the LG home app isn't so great, but replace it with Go Launcher (or Launcher Pro or. . . ) and it's fine.
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lol this bsod stuff looks so god darn random, i wish it was more concentrated so ppl could determine the ultimate cause.
btw another Q, hows the call quality ? and still: hows the sound through headphones ( is the stereo cross talk bearable ? cuz gsmarena said its pretty sucky, wondering how is it in real life situations)
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lol this bsod stuff looks so god darn random, i wish it was more concentrated so ppl could determine the ultimate cause.
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You're not the only one!
xilw3r said:
btw another Q, hows the call quality ? and still: hows the sound through headphones ( is the stereo cross talk bearable ? cuz gsmarena said its pretty sucky, wondering how is it in real life situations)
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I've found the call quality to be fine - in quiet situations, it's excellent, in noise situations it's fine. I've not used the handsfree, so don't know how calls are through headphones, but music is aok .
goatee said:
but music is aok .
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thanks do you use the supplied headphones or your own ?
Np - I use my own - Goldring NS1000.
xilw3r said:
thanks do you use the supplied headphones or your own ?
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I was thinking on getting either the desire s or the incredible s. Im a moderate user therefore i have no need in a dual core phone or a 4.3" size which is too big for me. Also, i dont think im going to root it,so the fact that it has no root option doesnt concern me.
Im still not 100% sure, but im more leaning towards the incredible due to its 4" screen which seems just the right size for me and since i hear a lot about the wifi problem the desire s has.
Still, a few things i would like to know about the incredible s before buying it.
1. I would like to have a phone that has as less problems as possible (ie, random non stop reboots, etc). Does the incredible fits that? some ppl say it heats on the back quite a lot.. is that true?
2. Battery life.. i read mixed comments about it from ppl saying it doesnt even lasts 12 hours with light to moderate use... is that true? is the battery as bad as the previous htc desire?
2. Is there support for divx this time? or would i have to convert files to mp4?
Any other major issues this phone has which i should know about?
mazinya said:
I was thinking on getting either the desire s or the incredible s. Im a moderate user therefore i have no need in a dual core phone or a 4.3" size which is too big for me. Also, i dont think im going to root it,so the fact that it has no root option doesnt concern me.
Im still not 100% sure, but im more leaning towards the incredible due to its 4" screen which seems just the right size for me and since i hear a lot about the wifi problem the desire s has.
Still, a few things i would like to know about the incredible s before buying it.
1. I would like to have a phone that has as less problems as possible (ie, random non stop reboots, etc). Does the incredible fits that? some ppl say it heats on the back quite a lot.. is that true?
I've had no problems with my incredible s, it rebooted once but that has never happened since and i think it was my fault , i've experienced no heat what so every even under heavy usage
2. Battery life.. i read mixed comments about it from ppl saying it doesnt even lasts 12 hours with light to moderate use... is that true? is the battery as bad as the previous htc desire?
For me with moderate usage it has lasted 18 hours and still about 20% battery left, battery is great
2. Is there support for divx this time? or would i have to convert files to mp4?
As far as i know it supports divx
Any other major issues this phone has which i should know about?
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You will fall in love with it... that's about it
Thanks for your reply, makes me feel better about purchasing it
ok serious this is for me the last time i made a review or gave any info about this device, since most info can allready be found on the forum....
wifi - no probs
battery temperature - yes it gets hot.. but it depends how you use it... extreme usage is hot battery, also the weather around you has an influance on it offcourse... Like Fisk lives in stockholm.... no doubt it wont get hot over there LOL
battery lifetime - if you cant make it a full day than you would suprise me big time, when i used bluetooth wifi, heavily gaming, browsing on the web and having bad signals mostly of the day. i can make it for rougly 16-18 hours.
reboots - allot, my fault tho since im busy writing my own **** in here but standard... only had it once, and never after again.
divx - hmm i did not test that... so i dont know... but im almost sure it does
flash supported - offcourse
sound quality - according to others seems to be better than the devices that been delivered before
hope you got enough info on this now
Hawkysoft said:
battery temperature - yes it gets hot.. but it depends how you use it... extreme usage is hot battery, also the weather around you has an influance on it offcourse... Like Fisk lives in stockholm.... no doubt it wont get hot over there LOL
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Haha true true
Was all up for buying a Desire S until i read nightmare issues with wifi dropouts, so now it's down to the incredible or desire HD.
I think they both have the same software, HD has bigger screen?
mrHD2 said:
Was all up for buying a Desire S until i read nightmare issues with wifi dropouts, so now it's down to the incredible or desire HD.
I think they both have the same software, HD has bigger screen?
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HTC Incredible S has a slightly smaller screen (Desire HD had a 4.3 inch screen while the Incredible S has a 4 inch screen), a 1.3 megapixel front facing camera, slightly larger battery and better screen quality.
If you want a big screen, get the Desire HD. Otherwise, get the Incredible S.
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If you want a big screen, get the Desire HD. Otherwise, get the Incredible S.
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More specifically, if you expect to use it one handed get the Incredible S. The DHD is too big for this IMO.
1. I would like to have a phone that has as less problems as possible (ie, random non stop reboots, etc). Does the incredible fits that? some ppl say it heats on the back quite a lot.. is that true?
have beening using the phone for two weeks now. Don't have any problem, for me at least.
2. Battery life.. i read mixed comments about it from ppl saying it doesnt even lasts 12 hours with light to moderate use... is that true? is the battery as bad as the previous htc desire?
The battery is not too bad. If you are a moderate user, it surely can last for one day (maybe two days).
2. Is there support for divx this time? or would i have to convert files to mp4?
Haveb't tried this yet. Don't like watching movie on a phone (screen is too small for me).
My only certain is the plastic-like back cover. The back cover feels very fragile and the antena is painted ( or glued) on the it. If you don't put the back cover on, the phone won't have any signal at all. After all, it's not bad. Compared with other phones, it's not that expensive.
Hope it help
desire s doesn't have bootloader and other locks ...
qexing said:
desire s doesn't have bootloader and other locks ...
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And im santa
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mazinya said:
I was thinking on getting either the desire s or the incredible s. Im a moderate user therefore i have no need in a dual core phone or a 4.3" size which is too big for me. Also, i dont think im going to root it,so the fact that it has no root option doesnt concern me.
Im still not 100% sure, but im more leaning towards the incredible due to its 4" screen which seems just the right size for me and since i hear a lot about the wifi problem the desire s has.
Still, a few things i would like to know about the incredible s before buying it.
1. I would like to have a phone that has as less problems as possible (ie, random non stop reboots, etc). Does the incredible fits that? some ppl say it heats on the back quite a lot.. is that true?
2. Battery life.. i read mixed comments about it from ppl saying it doesnt even lasts 12 hours with light to moderate use... is that true? is the battery as bad as the previous htc desire?
2. Is there support for divx this time? or would i have to convert files to mp4?
Any other major issues this phone has which i should know about?
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Seriously!! The day you posted this the Desire S offer from o2 ran out!! Get the desire s!!!
It was £6.37 a month on o2, free phone, 24 months on 21-22nd april, special offer! We both missed it out! (after quidco cashback)
FREEE PHONE
250 texts
100 mns
100 mb
£6.37 , free sim free desire s
WHAT A DEAL!
Shame we missed it :/
Total of £160
olyloh6696 said:
Seriously!! The day you posted this the Desire S offer from o2 ran out!! Get the desire s!!!
It was £6.37 a month on o2, free phone, 24 months on 21-22nd april, special offer! We both missed it out! (after quidco cashback)
FREEE PHONE
250 texts
100 mns
100 mb
£6.37 , free sim free desire s
WHAT A DEAL!
Shame we missed it :/
Total of £160
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Im not from the UK, so it doesnt matter to me..
anyway, i think im gonna wait for the sensation to come out and see if the price for the incredible is going to drop a bit (which i hope it will)
Btw, anyone knows the SAR rating of the IS?
anyone can answer my question above?
0.876 head, 0.776 body (both values w/[email protected])
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0.876 head, 0.776 body (both values w/[email protected])
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Im assuming those are good values if im not mistaken?
Are those good values?
btw, did anyone try to play divx with the phone and can tell me if it works well?
hey,
i was going to start a similar thread.. but
i am also stuck between desire S and incredible S.
i absolutely love desire s unibody design, and i dont really care about the wifi prob (besides there is some kind of fix to it as well), only concerns are ... the build quality: lots of ppl are talking about loose battery covers and screen not fitting in place lol, also the camera seems pretty lame...but the form factor/ screen size- perfect !
but incredible S... seems to have more developers to get the root (tho i think it will be ported to desire s as well afterwards... yea ?), but its only got froyo, not gingerbread, and its a bit too large, and not so darn beautiful >.<
and hows the music quality through the headphones (good stereo ? bass ?) and loudspeaker (no distortion ? loud ?) ?
only drawback- the bootloader on these phones and sense UI... would love CM 7 possibility
xilw3r said:
hey,
i was going to start a similar thread.. but
i am also stuck between desire S and incredible S.
i absolutely love desire s unibody design, and i dont really care about the wifi prob (besides there is some kind of fix to it as well), only concerns are ... the build quality: lots of ppl are talking about loose battery covers and screen not fitting in place lol, also the camera seems pretty lame...but the form factor/ screen size- perfect !
but incredible S... seems to have more developers to get the root (tho i think it will be ported to desire s as well afterwards... yea ?), but its only got froyo, not gingerbread, and its a bit too large, and not so darn beautiful >.<
and hows the music quality through the headphones (good stereo ? bass ?) and loudspeaker (no distortion ? loud ?) ?
only drawback- the bootloader on these phones and sense UI... would love CM 7 possibility
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mazinya said:
I was thinking on getting either the desire s or the incredible s. Im a moderate user therefore i have no need in a dual core phone or a 4.3" size which is too big for me. Also, i dont think im going to root it,so the fact that it has no root option doesnt concern me.
Im still not 100% sure, but im more leaning towards the incredible due to its 4" screen which seems just the right size for me and since i hear a lot about the wifi problem the desire s has.
Still, a few things i would like to know about the incredible s before buying it.
1. I would like to have a phone that has as less problems as possible (ie, random non stop reboots, etc). Does the incredible fits that? some ppl say it heats on the back quite a lot.. is that true?
Been using it all day, setting it up, etc etc. No problems yet.
2. Battery life.. i read mixed comments about it from ppl saying it doesnt even lasts 12 hours with light to moderate use... is that true? is the battery as bad as the previous htc desire?
Have been using it almost nonstop for the last 8 hrs. Battery is ALOT better than my iPhone 4!
2. Is there support for divx this time? or would i have to convert files to mp4?
I downloaded Mobo Player. It played flv, mpeg, avi, and mp4.
Any other major issues this phone has which i should know about?
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I just got this phone yesterday, and so far I like it!!
This post is primarily for people who are considering whether to get the Optimus 2X or O2X from now on, and are sitting on the fence. I got my O2X at 1400 hrs on the 11th of May. It's 1845hrs now on the 12th of May.
Prior to getting the O2X, I became active in the O2X forums here on XDA. And I downloaded all the necessary software for it too such as new baseband, latest ROM (I use Fear's), OneClickRoot, LG drivers etc. First thing I did when I got the O2X was to plug it in to AC Power and charge it. Battery was at 44% out of the box.
Once it showed 100%, I plugged it in to my USB and checked the baseband. Was the old one. So I rooted it, updated the baseband and flashed Fear's ROM. Before that, I played with the stock LG Android for a little. When I first booted it up, for the first 30 secs, it was real laggy. But after that, it was real smooth. No noticeable lag at all.
So after I flashed Fear's ROM, which is rock stable for me, I began downloading apps I used on my previous Android phone, the Dell Streak. Downloaded Juice Defender. Phone began to reboot by itself. 3 times in an hour. Uninstalled it and back to its stable self. Been using it the whole of today, no lag, really fast. And the screen is really gorgeous too. Bright and vibrant. Installed LauncherPRO, GOSMS and GOContacts so I could completely stop using LG apps. Battery usage was on the high side though that was expected. Read somewhere battery wont be spectacular for the first couple of cycles so I will update on that later, after more usage. Gaming wise, tried 3 games. Asphalt 6 HD, Samurai 2 and Angry Birds. O2X handled them exceptionally well. No lags. Angry Birds seem to be build for Tegra. Butter smooth. You gotta see it to believe it. Havent tried playing it on my TV though although I suspect Ill do that soon enough. Web surfing was a pleasure too. Incredibly smooth.
On the hardware side, I wasnt impressed when I saw it on the photos online. But holding it in my hands, it's definitely a well made product. Really slim, and light too (At least for me, coming from a Dell Streak). I don't have any heat issues too other than during charging which is to be expected. The 4" screen is a real beauty, the curved glass in the edge is a nice touch. I even hear the screen is Gorilla glass although I can't confirm it. Call quality is excellent for me. The speakers are above average and are stereo.
Final words, the O2X is hands down the best Android device I've owned. Arguably the best phone I've owned even (And I've owned quite a few). CM7 is in the nightly build stage, moving forward in full force. Once CM7 gets stable, the O2X will fly. The only bottleneck now is software since we already know the O2X is a beast inside. Once that get's settled, you've got one heck of a mean device on your hands.
So to summarize,
+ Beautiful 4" screen
+ Monstrous Speed
+ Awesome web surfing abilities
+ Excellent construction
+ Able to play any game you throw at it, more Tegra optimized games will be out soon too
+ HDMI Mirroring, and it was nice having the HDMI cable included
+ Camera and video camera works well too
- Only average Battery life
- Have to wait a while before you can get your hands on CM7
- LG Software sucks.
- No dedicated camera button
- From what I hear, LG Support is not that fantastic.
In all honesty, I feel the pros greatly outweigh the cons. I would recommend the O2X to anyone I will be updating this with any new thoughts or experiences in the future.
Thanks to :
You, for taking your time to read this.
LG, for the fantastic Hardware.
FearKill, for the fantastic ROM
The whole Cyanogen Team
The XDA Community, for continually being involved in making Android even better
Google, for Android.
Last but not least, my beloved HTC G1, which made me fall in love with Android
I will say that you expect too much while you have installed crap like software such juice defender etc - what do you want to achieve?
also - give me example of smartphone with good support? htc? NO samsung? NOOOOOOOO motorola: I dont think so
my 3 day old 2x kept 2 days on one charge and still had 12% of battery. i havent installed any power saving software, hsdpa was on with gmail push + some mail syncing and many phone calls, some photos etc. today i have unplugged it from 2nd charding at 7am and still 81% after 8 hours and about 40 minutes of phone calls - why complain?
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I will say that you expect too much while you have installed crap like software such juice defender etc - what do you want to achieve?
also - give me example of smartphone with good support? htc? NO samsung? NOOOOOOOO motorola: I dont think so
my 3 day old 2x kept 2 days on one charge and still had 12% of battery. i havent installed any power saving software, hsdpa was on with gmail push + some mail syncing and many phone calls, some photos etc. today i have unplugged it from 2nd charding at 7am and still 81% after 8 hours and about 40 minutes of phone calls - why complain?
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I stopped reading from "crap like software such juice defender". Juice defender is not crap.
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I stopped reading from "crap like software such juice defender". Juice defender is not crap.
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how do you know it is not causing your problems?
Juice defender causes the phone to reboot because it comes with buggy drivers. In particular the wifi driver seems to be the biggest cause. If you stop it from enabling/disabling wifi it should work well.
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I stopped reading from "crap like software such juice defender". Juice defender is not crap.
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for gingerbread juice defender sucks. sorry to tell you but i used it myself a long time on the n1, then the nexus s and on the lg o2x. i occasionally give it another try but always come to the same conclusion. since we got gingerbread (that would require you to run cm7 at this point) it just stopped working properly for me. especially now on the o2x, on which we do not have software running as it suppose to run, i'd adwise you not to use juice defender. but you should test it for yourself... just my experience with it....
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for gingerbread juice defender sucks. sorry to tell you but i used it myself a long time on the n1, then the nexus s and on the lg o2x. i occasionally give it another try but always come to the same conclusion. since we got gingerbread (that would require you to run cm7 at this point) it just stopped working properly for me. especially now on the o2x, on which we do not have software running as it suppose to run, i'd adwise you not to use juice defender. but you should test it for yourself... just my experience with it....
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I myself have never tried gingerbread before. And I am reluctant to try the nightly builds just yet. But JD works well with Froyo. Just not well with the O2X since we have driver issues. A hardware problem. Not a problem with JD. Anyway, I am runny Froyo now and had JD uninstalled due to the reboot problem allegedly caused by the wifi drivers.
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I myself have never tried gingerbread before. And I am reluctant to try the nightly builds just yet. But JD works well with Froyo. Just not well with the O2X since we have driver issues. A hardware problem. Not a problem with JD. Anyway, I am runny Froyo now and had JD uninstalled due to the reboot problem allegedly caused by the wifi drivers.
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Thanks for your review. I was thinking between Atrix, Galaxy S2 and 2X. GS2 has too big screen(and still not in my country) for me, Atrix is too expensive in Europe (£499 in UK -.-' without docks), so I think 2x will be my choice.
But wait, that wifi driver can't be fixed? I always connect drivers with software, not hardware.
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Thanks for your review. I was thinking between Atrix, Galaxy S2 and 2X. GS2 has too big screen(and still not in my country) for me, Atrix is too expensive in Europe (£499 in UK -.-' without docks), so I think 2x will be my choice.
But wait, that wifi driver can't be fixed? I always connect drivers with software, not hardware.
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GS2 isnt out here either (Singapore). And heard the Atrix has a locked bootloader. The wifi driver will be fixed eventually. Dont misunderstand me. Wifi works fine. It only goes bonkers when you install JuiceDefender and it tries to disable your wifi.
If you use a custom kernel with an update wifi driver it doesn't reboot at all anymore
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If you use a custom kernel with an update wifi driver it doesn't reboot at all anymore
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Nice to hear that. Seems that 2X is the best buy, has unlocked bootloader, very good HDMIout performance, high FPS ingame etc. I can get it sim-locked for 100euro + 40euro monthly, and sim-free it is 450-500euro. Could be cheaper but my country sucks xD. I will get it for 1-2 months, it should be much cheaper .
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Nice to hear that. Seems that 2X is the best buy, has unlocked bootloader, very good HDMIout performance, high FPS ingame etc. I can get it sim-locked for 100euro + 40euro monthly, and sim-free it is 450-500euro. Could be cheaper but my country sucks xD. I will get it for 1-2 months, it should be much cheaper .
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Yep, for its calibre, the O2X is priced really nicely. I got it for 348 Singapore dollars, which is USD$280, with a 2 year contract.
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Yep, for its calibre, the O2X is priced really nicely. I got it for 348 Singapore dollars, which is USD$280, with a 2 year contract.
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So, there are NO hardware problems with O2X, it is only a bad software?
I was in dilemma between those 3 devices, but almost gave up of O2X because someone said reboots/freezes were hardware problem .
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If you use a custom kernel with an update wifi driver it doesn't reboot at all anymore
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whats the kernel you recommend for stock/mcr build?
Thats right people, i just made the million dollar question. As a quick background, ive owned an ETEN X500 (terrible phone), an HTC TD2 (ridiculous newton rings issues) and up until a few days i was a proud owner of an Acer Liquid E, which was, with the help of some geniuses up at modaco, an amazing handset which had cost me only about 280 euros more than a year ago. Due to a terrible car accident (from which i miraculously survived almost intact) the Liquid fell into the sea and, well, thats all with that. As you can tell im not into paying incredible money for a phone, since i hate contracts (pay-as-you-go is the future lol), so id rather save up and pay for an unlocked device. I have found a pretty good deal on the Optimus 2X, about 380 Euros, which i consider great for a dual-core device, but as i keep on reading page after page here, im quite shocked on the amount of issues this phone has. The screen bleeding is really nothing new for an IPS LCD display, ive seen it b4 and im sure ill see it again, and its only noticeable in extreme situations (full brightness, black background and nothing else) so im not so much worried about it. The lag/freeze/reboot situation is a completely different issue of course. There are so many people experiencing these problems that one may think that the 2X is a faulty device by design, but im still not totally convinced about it. Are we seriously talking about bad HW here, or is there any substantial hope of getting a holy-grail-type SW fix? I know that this has been talked over again and again and i have already read more than 50 pages on that, so my question goes more to the people that have done serious research on the issue and could, possibly, have a more global view on it. The phone does have all im lookin for on a device: dual-core CPU, LCD display (S-AMOLED burn-in? no thanx), HDMI, 1080p video, affordable.. But having lots of doubts, as expected.
Anyways, any thoughts/replies would be very welcome.
PS Even if i dont end up buying the phone, good luck to the owers
Peace
Buy it, root it, install CM7 on it, most issues would be gone. Gingerbread also slated to come soon. This is a value for money phone imo.
The freeze problem I think are not on every device. I think that some countries do not have this prohlem at all. Like here in Slovakia I read a lot of reviews and people reviews, and no one was affected by this problem. So I bought it too, and never this problem never happened so far. So... you make a conclusion
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Buy the phone, The bang for buck is high regarding performance. Screen is good and if you lucky like me almost no back bleeding. The phone itself has a solid build and you get the Quality feel when you hold it. Camera is good and HD recording as well.
I only had the random reboot issue at the begging but with the latest Update its better now, has occurred but not that often like 1 in a month or something. Lags sometimes when installing apps or the F-secure is doing its thing.
Overall i'm happy with the phone, Just wished that LG put more ram and faster NAND. However don't get me wrong the phone doesn't bottleneck because of this performance wise. If i where you and wanted powerhouse that's cheap then the 2x is for you.
Also note that i run Stock ROM froyo, think with GB things will get better.
A tip if you get it change the launcher right away or put another ROM(CM7 or Modaco if you ask me, also check out MIUI) and Kernel.
(Haven't done it myself cause of lack of time, need to start exploring Android dev wise. Used to work with Winmo 6.1 on my xperia x1 (old dev) ).
If you have plans to use custom ROMs, buy it. I never had any problems with it.
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Thanx for the replies guys, its good to know that things may not be as bad for everybody. I guess i might take my chances with this one.. Ill def be doing some more reading bout it though.. thanc again
I compared 5 phones:
Sony Ericsson Arc - no front facing camera
Motorola Atrix - no FM radio
Samsung Galaxy S2 - great phone, but a little out of my budget
HTC Sensation - a real contender, but more expensive than the LG and starting to get close in price to the Samsung
LG O2X - the lowest price with all the features I wanted.
I've had one reboot in over one month's use: I had the LG tethered to my notebook (works surprisingly well as a 3G modem). Surfing the net and charging the phone at the same time. I then started making voice calls and Tango video calls while still tethered to the internet and charging.
I could feel the LG starting to get a little warm and then bada bing! Re-boot.
I think I pushed it a little too hard that day.
Under normal use and conditions, my LG works well.
I would happily buy another one of these bronze beauties.
(I think black is also available, but I only ever seem to see the bronze coloured handsets)
Rhetorical answer - No.
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Hi mate, are you from Italy?
I bought it 10 days ago at the same price you said on an Italian website (maybe the same u saw) and I had a lot of BSOD. IMO when you find it at a very low price it's because they have "bad" phones and they want to sell them as soon as possibile but I don't know if this is true!
But you have to consider that with the warranty you are almost sure that any issue will be resolved, you just have to wait... Mine is at the LG center right now and I'm waiting for it. Luckyli my HTC Magic is still working, so I have a good replacement during the wait!
Sorry for my English, I hope you understand everything
CYA
After first few days I was realy disapointed. The SW is realy but realy crap, battery was overheating, lasted only few hours. Response of the phone was very slow and I had few reboots. After 3 days I rooted it, flashed MODACO rom and ... I couldnt get better device for the price.
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With modaco no modaco cm7 this phone is crap going back to iphone when it comes out !gs2 froam samsung is the king !my friend has it is super fast no lags wait befoure you buy i have this phone froam april its not good i paid it 500 €!
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Hi mate, are you from Italy?
I bought it 10 days ago at the same price you said on an Italian website (maybe the same u saw) and I had a lot of BSOD. IMO when you find it at a very low price it's because they have "bad" phones and they want to sell them as soon as possibile but I don't know if this is true!
But you have to consider that with the warranty you are almost sure that any issue will be resolved, you just have to wait... Mine is at the LG center right now and I'm waiting for it. Luckyli my HTC Magic is still working, so I have a good replacement during the wait!
Sorry for my English, I hope you understand everything
CYA
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I am in Spain actually and it seems that my case looks a lot like yours. The retailer is very well known and it sells in all Europe. There is only 1-5 phones on stock at the moment so i think that maybe its a 'bad batch' that they are trying to get rid of, hence the low price tag. Mixed opinions here as well, so.. im really not sure about it at all. Continue reading
I'm satisfied of the phone...
When I buy it I had a lot of SODs with stock rom, but now with CM7 and MIUI this phone is much better...
Call quality is good
Camera is good (the glass in front of camera is crap...you have to clean it every time otherwise it causes the "myst" problem on the photos)
Battery is average
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Its done.. Ordered the phone today, should have it by wednesday.. Fingers crossed..
Good luck.
Phone: LG Optimus 2X
Android version: 2.2.2
Baseband version: 1035.21-20110614
Kernel version: 2.6.32.9
LGE version: LGP990-V10c
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So.. The phone arrived yesterday from the UK. After about 10 hours of heavy usage i had 1 reboot, that, from what ive read over these days, doesnt really bother me.. Coming from a Liquid E, this phone feels very very fast, no lags or slowdowns of any kind. From earlier experience and knowing that the phone is on stock ROM, i can imagine that with a custom CM7 it should be faster than Bolt. BTW i left the phone last night with 64% battery and this morning i had.. 64% battery!! Incredible.. Anyways, im not gonna be flashing custom roms just yet, the only thing im interested in at the moment is getting the [email protected] patch working.. Even though i have found the 'start here' post here on xda, it will take some time to understand what needs to be done 1st etc since there's no clear guide, but im used to this kind of situations (just like anyone with a smartphone browsing through xda pages i guess).. Very happy with my purchase for now, i think that a tegra2 phone for 370 Euros was a bargain after all.. Thanx for your input, c ya around
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So.. The phone arrived yesterday from the UK. After about 10 hours of heavy usage i had 1 reboot, that, from what ive read over these days, doesnt really bother me.. Coming from a Liquid E, this phone feels very very fast, no lags or slowdowns of any kind. From earlier experience and knowing that the phone is on stock ROM, i can imagine that with a custom CM7 it should be faster than Bolt. BTW i left the phone last night with 64% battery and this morning i had.. 64% battery!! Incredible.. Anyways, im not gonna be flashing custom roms just yet, the only thing im interested in at the moment is getting the [email protected] patch working.. Even though i have found the 'start here' post here on xda, it will take some time to understand what needs to be done 1st etc since there's no clear guide, but im used to this kind of situations (just like anyone with a smartphone browsing through xda pages i guess).. Very happy with my purchase for now, i think that a tegra2 phone for 370 Euros was a bargain after all.. Thanx for your input, c ya around
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in Holland u can get it for €318,-
its alot cheaper then the €478,- for the galaxy S2 and Sensation.
2 of my hfriends have a sensation and galaxy s2. mine is the fastest
(i want an optimus 3d now )
i can only choose between LG O2x or Nexus S, i like the timely software support of the S but the specs on LG are way superior...should i just get the LG?
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So.. The phone arrived yesterday from the UK. After about 10 hours of heavy usage i had 1 reboot, that, from what ive read over these days, doesnt really bother me.. Coming from a Liquid E, this phone feels very very fast, no lags or slowdowns of any kind. From earlier experience and knowing that the phone is on stock ROM, i can imagine that with a custom CM7 it should be faster than Bolt. BTW i left the phone last night with 64% battery and this morning i had.. 64% battery!! Incredible.. Anyways, im not gonna be flashing custom roms just yet, the only thing im interested in at the moment is getting the [email protected] patch working.. Even though i have found the 'start here' post here on xda, it will take some time to understand what needs to be done 1st etc since there's no clear guide, but im used to this kind of situations (just like anyone with a smartphone browsing through xda pages i guess).. Very happy with my purchase for now, i think that a tegra2 phone for 370 Euros was a bargain after all.. Thanx for your input, c ya around
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Abot the battery issue, Ive been having it too after one month using it. The thing is, that the phone actually gets charged, but somehow the phone unable to detect the actual battey level.
I found that restarting the phone will get the phone to redetect the battery again. I think its a SW problem though, so any custom ROM will likely fix the problem.
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i can only choose between LG O2x or Nexus S, i like the timely software support of the S but the specs on LG are way superior...should i just get the LG?
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If you like to have the latest version of Android OD with no bells and whistles then get the Nexus.
If you like to wait 6+ months for LG to install a boatload of crap (that nobody wants) into a phone, then be late for work every other day because the alarm didn't work etc etc then go for the LG.
Nexus S anytime.
Well im going to buy the 2X soon after i buy a laptop but thats not the point, the point is , is the 2X worth buying? Tell me your experience uding the lg 2x.
Spend a couple of 100 bucks more and buy a proper phone. LGO2X is crap tbh. It gets way better with cm7 and cm9 and custom roms in generel, but no its not a good phone.
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Spend a couple of 100 bucks more and buy a proper phone. LGO2X is crap tbh. It gets way better with cm7 and cm9 and custom roms in generel, but no its not a good phone.
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Lies.
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Lies.
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Not exactly a lie. Don't get me wrong here, I love my O2X now when I've figured out the right baseband/RIL combination and found myself a preferred kernel (which doesn't work right now because of the system r/w corruption bug). It is a great phone if you like experimenting. If not I'd recommend a phone which is using Qualcomm-SOC solution.
So I guess it all comes down to the user.
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I had this phone for over a year now. The first 9 months it was a laggy, buggy and hopeless experience, though cm7 after 6 months made it better. Then Gingerbread came along from LG, but it was still buggy and laggy. Random reboots then charging and in general. ATM i am on owains cm9 with harch kernel and my phone has never been better. But still.. I regret by a 1000 that I bought this phone and not the SGII. I will buy the SGIII then it comes and if that disappoints the One X. Sorry to say but the OX2 has been a huge let-down. Hardware was good at the price but software and build-quality was never well.
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I had this phone for over a year now. The first 9 months it was a laggy, buggy and hopeless experience, though cm7 after 6 months made it better. Then Gingerbread came along from LG, but it was still buggy and laggy. Random reboots then charging and in general. ATM i am on owains cm9 with harch kernel and my phone has never been better. But still.. I regret by a 1000 that I bought this phone and not the SGII. I will buy the SGIII then it comes and if that disappoints the One X. Sorry to say but the OX2 has been a huge let-down. Hardware was good at the price but software and build-quality was never well.
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Well I jumped in around CM7 build 170, so I was fortunate to get the phone in it's prime. I know you had a crap experience at the start, but the OP doesn't have to buy the phone using a time machine. In it's current state it is a better phone than the SGS2 in my opinion. (unless ICS is a factor, then the SGS creams it)
The SGS2 has a horrible screen, costs $150 more, and is worse than the O2X in gaming stability.
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Well I jumped in around CM7 build 170, so I was fortunate to get the phone in it's prime. I know you had a crap experience at the start, but the OP doesn't have to buy the phone using a time machine. In it's current state it is a better phone than the SGS2 in my opinion. (unless ICS is a factor, then the SGS creams it)
The SGS2 has a horrible screen, costs $150 more, and is worse than the O2X in gaming stability.
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I utterly disagree. I do not find the SGII screen worse than O2X, quite the contrary tbh, but thats a matter of taste. The SGII is more stable(can actually use the alarm by night not fearing the phone will shut down during night), custom builds have very stable ICS with chrome, the very possible chance that it will also be upgraded to Jelly Bean and imo better gaming and better battery-life.
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And better camera.. I have just been so annoyed and disappointed with my O2X, not saying that models build later can not have eliminated many of the bugs i have experienced, but i would never recommend this phone to anyone. My gf has a SE mini pro, which is far mor stable and faster in everyday use (open texts and stuff) than my O2X ever was.
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I utterly disagree. I do not find the SGII screen worse than O2X, quite the contrary tbh, but thats a matter of taste. The SGII is more stable(can actually use the alarm by night not fearing the phone will shut down during night), custom builds have very stable ICS with chrome, the very possible chance that it will also be upgraded to Jelly Bean and imo better gaming and better battery-life.
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My friend may have had a dud screen, it had a green tint to it, looked nasty.
Another friend has a Motorola Razr, his screen was terrible whereas the O2Xs is actually white. I guess it depends on the batch.
I've had both galaxy s2 and the optimus 2x. In really do like the o2x when compared to the gs2 screen.
I ended up sticking with my o2x and selling my gs2 (':
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I have Samsung Galaxy s2 it is horrible, good performance good camera but ultra lame overheats all the time , milti touch bugs sometimes... Crap , waht do you guys recomend then?
Considering what users have experienced with galaxy s2, and the super speedy responsivness my O2X running CM7 and the now working etana kernel. I'd say go for an O2X. Hardware quality is top notch.
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A newer phone, the galaxy nexus(which is only flawed by the underwhelming camera), the new HTC one X(have some bugs now, but not many) or the RAZR!
CasperHN said:
A newer phone, the galaxy nexus(which is only flawed by the underwhelming camera), the new HTC one X(have some bugs now, but not many) or the RAZR!
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I would say that gpu in galaxy nexus is not very good for 720p resolution. At least for games.
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If you're not worried about something being new, the HTC Sensation resale value has dropped a lot, I just picked one up for £140 and it already has ICS, more RAM and a qHD screen.
Dunno if I'll keep it, but for that money it was silly to pass it up.
"bof bof " as we say in france
For the good news :
It's a powerfull phone,
For the medium news :
Battery is not that good 14/15hours when I don't use it often, 8/9 h when I use it with internet or wifi a part of the day.
For the bad news :
If you want to use the fm radio, forget about it, it is just horrible.
Result, for the price, you can take it.
If you've got some more cash go for a galaxy S2, or nexus.
Was just browsing one my of favourite forums and came across a screen burn in thread re the SGS2..
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1897429#r1
Seems this phone is getting worse all the time lol, when I bought my O2X I dreamed of an SGS but couldn't afford it, now I'm sure I made the right decision.
Its a good fast phone that runs anything you throw at it, its the cheapest out of all dual core devices and is worth it.
I dont regret my buy at all, i wish lg would update faster and nvidia supported it properly but its still a good device.
Well everything depends.. What is the price, that you are going to spend ? I bought O2x for about 450$ a time ago, and was really sad coz it lacks support.. And i had it with 2.2.2 android.. Anyway I decided to break warranty and mod it and it changed the thing, especialy now when I'm using Owain's CM9, Its just fantastic, except video cam is not supported for now, but hopefully official ICS is rolling out this month..
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Oh.. Also I had another dissapointment, when my o2x felt off small table and back camera cover cracked.. LG decide to make it from ****ty plastic for that big price at the beginning.. And another dissapoinment I had ,when the phone slipped out of my hands in winter and bottom left side of my digitizer get spider net (crack) on it, and I found out that digitizer price was around 50-60$ comparing to 14-20 for iphone, some htc an samsung, that i checked... So if you get it, i suggest you to buy silicon case and never take it off.. oh.. where is the time when you could take your nokia 3210 and smash it by the wall or someones head and it didnt have even a scratch.. Sorry for my english
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[/COLOR]Oh.. Also I had another dissapointment, when my o2x felt off small table and back camera cover cracked.. LG decide to make it from ****ty plastic for that big price at the beginning.. And another dissapoinment I had ,when the phone slipped out of my hands in winter and bottom left side of my digitizer get spider net (crack) on it, and I found out that digitizer price was around 50-60$ comparing to 14-20 for iphone, some htc an samsung, that i checked... So if you get it, i suggest you to buy silicon case and never take it off.. oh.. where is the time when you could take your nokia 3210 and smash it by the wall or someones head and it didnt have even a scratch.. Sorry for my english
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I've dropped my phone about 5 times (not including small drops which couldnt possibly damage anything) one was from standing height, so probably 1.3.1.4M high, onto concrete. It bounced twice and was fine.
My friend dropped his iPhone 4 onto carpet and shattered the back glass, hilarious.
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I've dropped my phone about 5 times (not including small drops which couldnt possibly damage anything) one was from standing height, so probably 1.3.1.4M high, onto concrete. It bounced twice and was fine.
My friend dropped his iPhone 4 onto carpet and shattered the back glass, hilarious.
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You are lucky.. I got digitizer cracked with first serious hit on concrete.. Is that possible coz of low temperatures ? I guess it was something about -25 -30c outside that period.. and phone was just un trunk of my car for hour or so..
As much as I like the 4X I am very disappointed with the battery life and the fact we cannot obtain root (well majority of us).
I keep looking at the Hong Kong version of the Meizu MX 4 core. Had a look at some reviews and un boxing vids and looks like a nice device. Has anyone ever used a Meizu device before? What are everyone's views on this?
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As much as I like the 4X I am very disappointed with the battery life and the fact we cannot obtain root (well majority of us).
I keep looking at the Hong Kong version of the Meizu MX 4 core. Had a look at some reviews and un boxing vids and looks like a nice device. Has anyone ever used a Meizu device before? What are everyone's views on this?
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I guess it depends what you want from your phone.
I am quite happy with the battery life and its definitely better after several cycles and the v10d update.
Couple of things struck me with the Meizu when compared to O4X though:
4.0" screen vs 4.7"
640 x 960 res vs 1280 x 720
No microSD slot
Micro SIM only
Personally don't like the design either, looks like a chinese iphone clone to me.
Of course it is each to their own though, everyone wants something different from their phones. I bought the O4X on the merits it has, that none of the other current flagships could give me.
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ianford10 said:
As much as I like the 4X I am very disappointed with the battery life and the fact we cannot obtain root (well majority of us).
I keep looking at the Hong Kong version of the Meizu MX 4 core. Had a look at some reviews and un boxing vids and looks like a nice device. Has anyone ever used a Meizu device before? What are everyone's views on this?
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I have the meizu mx 2 core, its a nice phone hardware wise.
screen is very good its almost 300ppi so no dif. really vs the LG phone.
sound in calls are very low even at highest setting.
sound from headphones and speaker is by far the best on any android phone with its wolfson chip.
but there is bad translations in english mode, u have to use locale apps to get right in maps and searches.
u have to install special apps to get into the "real menu" for sync accounts otherwise its flyme only.
almost all support is in chinese.
not much rom development on the device even if its the HK version.
if miui gets a release soon it might be good but i cant recomend it software wise.
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I have the meizu mx 2 core, its a nice phone hardware wise.
screen is very good its almost 300ppi so no dif. really vs the LG phone.
sound in calls are very low even at highest setting.
sound from headphones and speaker is by far the best on any android phone with its wolfson chip.
but there is bad translations in english mode, u have to use locale apps to get right in maps and searches.
u have to install special apps to get into the "real menu" for sync accounts otherwise its flyme only.
almost all support is in chinese.
not much rom development on the device even if its the HK version.
if miui gets a release soon it might be good but i cant recomend it software wise.
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Thank you for the info, is the software really that bad?
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As much as I like the 4X I am very disappointed with the battery life and the fact we cannot obtain root (well majority of us).
I keep looking at the Hong Kong version of the Meizu MX 4 core. Had a look at some reviews and un boxing vids and looks like a nice device. Has anyone ever used a Meizu device before? What are everyone's views on this?
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The battery life with v10d is very very good! And the phone is amazing! I hope that the root will arrive! At the moment the 4x runs very good!
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The battery life with v10d is very very good! And the phone is amazing! I hope that the root will arrive! At the moment the 4x runs very good!
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I think my phone has an issue then. I went to sleep and the percentage was at 77, I woke this morning and it was 34%. I was asleep for 9 hours.
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Perhaps you have some battery eating app running?
I always have data off until I need it and WiFi only on when the screen is on and since v10d the phone drops about 2% battery overnight now.
Seems the saver core works really well in standby as that matches my sensation with a custom battery saver kernel.
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sadly, i am starting to share the same opinion, NOT because of root options, but the functionality of the OS on this model.
it seems they handle sensors incorrectly, and without root, we cannot even try to fix it here.
- is it just me or is it very annoying that when you press power, it takes ages (2-3 seconds) before it responds and turn on the display? (when its in standby)
- when you hang up a call, is it just me or does the thing takes forever?, and the proximity sensor for turning on display when you move it away from your head, i know it can be modified, but why would LG have the delay soooo f.... long? HTC has none of these issues, its almost close to being tooo sensitive?
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sadly, i am starting to share the same opinion, NOT because of root options, but the functionality of the OS on this model.
it seems they handle sensors incorrectly, and without root, we cannot even try to fix it here.
- is it just me or is it very annoying that when you press power, it takes ages (2-3 seconds) before it responds and turn on the display? (when its in standby)
- when you hang up a call, is it just me or does the thing takes forever?, and the proximity sensor for turning on display when you move it away from your head, i know it can be modified, but why would LG have the delay soooo f.... long? HTC has none of these issues, its almost close to being tooo sensitive?
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I don't have that kind of issue. Does it stay after a full wipe ?
I had a Gnote juste before the 4x HD. Every body was happy about Gnote battery life but not me. With to different Gnote under cyanogen, i had constant battery drain. I'm sure it was software, but i never found wich app was draining. For me, there was no way to have a full day without charging.
Lg 4x is working better for my usage. With green power, i lost maybe 1% during the whole night. The screen is far more responsive. Its seems to handle more precise finger position, build quality is top, size great, screen perfect.
Really a great little phone. i'm quite happy.
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Perhaps you have some battery eating app running?
I always have data off until I need it and WiFi only on when the screen is on and since v10d the phone drops about 2% battery overnight now.
Seems the saver core works really well in standby as that matches my sensation with a custom battery saver kernel.
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I have done a factory reset and see how it goes over the weekend, if no improvement then sadly I will say goodbye to LG
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sadly, i am starting to share the same opinion, NOT because of root options, but the functionality of the OS on this model.
it seems they handle sensors incorrectly, and without root, we cannot even try to fix it here.
- is it just me or is it very annoying that when you press power, it takes ages (2-3 seconds) before it responds and turn on the display? (when its in standby)
- when you hang up a call, is it just me or does the thing takes forever?, and the proximity sensor for turning on display when you move it away from your head, i know it can be modified, but why would LG have the delay soooo f.... long? HTC has none of these issues, its almost close to being tooo sensitive?
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looking at your post, i did the test and gound that you are right! but it's been half a month since i got this phone, and i did notice it before i read it from your post... so there are no use case for me where it can be realy annoying, because we are always talking about 1 to 3 seconds!
also, mi old Galaxy S with CM9 isn't faster .
I am also waiting for root (battery life is ok for me since v10d although my wifi is on all the time), but since this phone is realy new, an not as popular as Samsung ans HTC's flagships, I know that it will take more time.
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also, mi old Galaxy S with CM9 isn't faster .
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i had a Galaxy S too and still is within family reach and i do honestly not feel it was that bad. but yes we might be down to 1/2 a second, but the feel of this is a little annoying. but yes, i come to live it hoping i can fix it when its rooted but really, LG could have made it customizable. when they had to make it so strange.
everything here is fast, no delays, when calling, screen is intant on/off, also when the phone is laying around and i push the power button, i get nearly instant screen on ....
dunno why, i only have wiped the device before and after the 10D update
Dexter_nlb said:
sadly, i am starting to share the same opinion, NOT because of root options, but the functionality of the OS on this model.
it seems they handle sensors incorrectly, and without root, we cannot even try to fix it here.
- is it just me or is it very annoying that when you press power, it takes ages (2-3 seconds) before it responds and turn on the display? (when its in standby)
- when you hang up a call, is it just me or does the thing takes forever?, and the proximity sensor for turning on display when you move it away from your head, i know it can be modified, but why would LG have the delay soooo f.... long? HTC has none of these issues, its almost close to being tooo sensitive?
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I don't have this issues.. screen responds very fast.. no delay when hang-up..
Sent from my LG-P880 using xda app-developers app
atlexx said:
looking at your post, i did the test and gound that you are right! but it's been half a month since i got this phone, and i did notice it before i read it from your post... so there are no use case for me where it can be realy annoying, because we are always talking about 1 to 3 seconds!
also, mi old Galaxy S with CM9 isn't faster .
I am also waiting for root (battery life is ok for me since v10d although my wifi is on all the time), but since this phone is realy new, an not as popular as Samsung ans HTC's flagships, I know that it will take more time.
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Are there any other reasons to jump ship?
Reviews talk about how far the display is from the screen? Is that bad?
Someone from LG told me that the 4XHD can record phone calls (when in conversation go to voicerecorder and start recording, you should hear a beep every 10 seconds orso). Can someone verify this? I know that the SGSII & III can't nor the One X.
Some reviews also talk about the phone being too quiet? How is the volume when ringing? When in a pocket or coat (in a pouch)?
How's in call audio? How's the earpiece audio?
I'm just wondering if when used as a phone the 4xHD is a better option then the OneX? The One X has a proper notification led which is bright unlike the one from the Xperia U (which the sales dip**** should have said before I bought the damn thing). The One X IS loud when playing music and video so assume it's as loud when ringing. The OneX's screen looks great. But it can't record calls which is important for me.
The price difference is about 30 euro's between OneX and 4xHD
Cheers.
epdm2be said:
Are there any other reasons to jump ship?
Reviews talk about how far the display is from the screen? Is that bad?
Someone from LG told me that the 4XHD can record phone calls (when in conversation go to voicerecorder and start recording, you should hear a beep every 10 seconds orso). Can someone verify this? I know that the SGSII & III can't nor the One X.
Some reviews also talk about the phone being too quiet? How is the volume when ringing? When in a pocket or coat (in a pouch)?
How's in call audio? How's the earpiece audio?
I'm just wondering if when used as a phone the 4xHD is a better option then the OneX? The One X has a proper notification led which is bright unlike the one from the Xperia U (which the sales dip**** should have said before I bought the damn thing). The One X IS loud when playing music and video so assume it's as loud when ringing. The OneX's screen looks great. But it can't record calls which is important for me.
The price difference is about 30 euro's between OneX and 4xHD
Cheers.
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OneX and 4xHD are both bad in terms of battery HOWEVER the 4xHD has a bigger and replacable battery.
Also 4xHD's screen is on par with the OneX and thereby the best I've seen to date. (Better than new iPad btw)
Had no issues with sound at all. Speaker is crystal clear (sometimes a bit too clear but still very good), didn't try the music with LG earpieces though. Other earpieces sounded good to me.
Volume of the ringtone... No idea. Didn't really care but haven't missed a call for now, so I suppose it's good enough.
4xHD also has an micro SD card slot (up to 64 gb) wich in my eyes is a huge advantage.
Plus I had nothing but good with LG so far.
You should only consider buying the OneX if:
You need the additional community support (LG will never attract as many devs however cyanogenmod will most likely be ported as soon as it's rooted. (Probably even officially supported))
You need the best camera in town (Except for Nokias 41 Mpix phone-camera of course)... read you need the fastest camera in town.
You need Sense. (LG's is more smooth and really (I mean REALLY REALLY) among the best, however it's just not as polished as HTC's)
You need Dropbox Space (You get Box.net space with LG I think. Too bad I don't really use that.) (OneX has up to 25gb for 2 years).
If you said no to one or all of the above:
Get the LG.
BTW For me Samsung S3 is a no no because of the design, the crappy touchwhizz and the worse screen in sunlight... But it does have the even larger community support and the supposedly less energy consuming processor.
Hey guys
Just to let you know if your having problems with the stock 4x then you can complain to LG about it. On their chat support you can ask to raise a VOC (voice of customer) then give them suggestions and improvements. When I talked to support the guy did try to help even though I don't have an optimus 4X.
I'm sure they'll try to help if they can.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e