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[Q] should i buy this ...thing ?

Hi guys,
i am thinking to buy optimus 2x or desire s. (they both cost almost the same, minor diff), i dont even dare call optimus 2x a phone anymore
desire s:
cool looking, metal body, great size,
BUT sucky camera, non rootable without xtc clip, no devs working on it, and some battery cover problems (squeaky)
optimus 2x:
LOTS of devs (which im hoping will fix the reboot issue), CM (yeaa!), great camera, hardware etc...
BUT its rebooting, getting very hot (for many), screen backlight bleeding and generaly unstable phone... my only gripes with it.
im so lost. any advice is VERY appreciated

The hardware for the Desire S is a real let-down IMHO. I've found my O2X to be stable generally, the early nightlies of CM7 weren't great but after about 10 they really improved. LG's software sucks but the phone is still usable, if laggy.
I've had no heat issue (if anything it runs cooler than my old Desire, if not my DEXT). Likewise the screen bleeding issue. I wouldn't choose any other phone right now.

tickler136 said:
The hardware for the Desire S is a real let-down IMHO. I've found my O2X to be stable generally, the early nightlies of CM7 weren't great but after about 10 they really improved. LG's software sucks but the phone is still usable, if laggy.
I've had no heat issue (if anything it runs cooler than my old Desire, if not my DEXT). Likewise the screen bleeding issue. I wouldn't choose any other phone right now.
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and if i may ask, for how long have you had your o2x ?

Looolll.
Is like comparing a Toyota with a Ferrari....
Ofcourse LG O2X.
I have mine since day one of release.
Some times (once a week or in 2 weeks) BSOD.
Phone never gets warm or what so ever.
Kept it stock for a long time. Rooted my phone like 2 weeks ago.
Just for Adfree, nothing else.

Had mine for a week. Stabile as rock! Not one reboot. No heat issues.
I have frozen antivirus and drivemehome (perhaps those who make the device reboot??)
My battery is good for 2 days with moderate use on 2G network. Have disabled 3G...
The backlight bleeding is a problem with all LCD screen more or less. I dont know why you want to stare at the screen while its pitch black in a room without light... I have some bleeding, but never bothers me. It is usually something to see in the screen

and what about the other loads of ppl who have bsod 5 times per day :| ?
i just really dont want want to go wrong with this because return is not an option

xilw3r said:
and what about the other loads of ppl who have bsod 5 times per day :| ?
i just really dont want want to go wrong with this because return is not an option
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Just play with your phone hardcore for 3 days.
If any BSOD, REBOOT, hot tempure will occure you can go to the store en switch the phone.
And if your phone has these issues, I think you will notice it on the hardcore 3 day use.

xmoo said:
Just play with your phone hardcore for 3 days.
If any BSOD, REBOOT, hot tempure will occure you can go to the store en switch the phone.
And if your phone has these issues, I think you will notice it on the hardcore 3 day use.
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I would do the opposite actually. Using the phone will give you no issues, it's only when left alone that the problems occur.
I seriously wouldn't risk this phone to be honest. You're guaranteed to have issues in one way or another, and you shouldn't have to root and void your warranty to get a reliable phone.

IMHO, if you can wait, I would suggest waiting 6 weeks to 2 months to see how the dual-core phone scene pans out. I think gingerbread would likely be on LG2X by then, as would improved stability on other dual-core phones as well. Also, like all electronic products, the longer you wait to buy - the cheaper they become.

keep in mind that some people had the O2X for 3 weeks before they started getting reboots/ freezes and BSOD. Just saying

Just you wait a little more while. CM7 will be as stable as a rock soon enough.
IMO. The Desire S should be around 2/3 the price of O2X to make it any worthy compared to O2X. It's just an upgraded version of the original Desire with a high pricetag.

The desire and incredible s work out of the box though. Without random reboots and freezes. If you just want a phone that works, I would go with the desire.
The 2x is great hardware for the money, but hardware isn't everything. I'm saying if you were concerned about problems, this really isn't the handset for you. Because you are 99% guaranteed to have issues.
If you are buying this with the intention to hack the hell out of it, you might be ok. You can't beat it's hardware to price ratio.
Don't even think about running this phone on stock if that is your intention.
It still hasn't been fully determined if anyone running stock, no root, no changes haven't had issues. Checking the various threads, I can't see anyone using stock that doesn't have issues. Most have either rooted and frozen apps, or put a complete new rom on.
If there are people running stock and don't have issues, they are a minority at best.
The op is saying a return isn't really an option to them. If so, then look elsewhere.

I hacked the **** out of it. And I love it. I could get an sgs2 but I didnt and thats saying a lot.
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Go for the o2x really great phone, had mine since day 1 and its never let me down, really glad i choose this over both desire s and sgs2
Hope this helps u decide, and let us know what u get.
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thanks guys. idk, i think im more leaning towards optimus 2x now, cuz of CM mostly, but then again, the size is kinda huge especially for a 4 inch screen.
and 1 more question, hows the audio quality through headphones ? i read in gsmarena that stereo crosstalk is pretty awful, what do you people think ? its kind of important cuz i always use my phone as a music player

Why isn't the stock ROM an option? My first handset had to be replaced on day one. My replacement has BSOD once in a month. BSOD aside, the stock ROM really aint that bad - the LG home app isn't so great, but replace it with Go Launcher (or Launcher Pro or. . . ) and it's fine.
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If you are buying this with the intention to hack the hell out of it, you might be ok. You can't beat it's hardware to price ratio.
Don't even think about running this phone on stock if that is your intention.
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goatee said:
Why isn't the stock ROM an option? My first handset had to be replaced on day one. My replacement has BSOD once in a month. BSOD aside, the stock ROM really aint that bad - the LG home app isn't so great, but replace it with Go Launcher (or Launcher Pro or. . . ) and it's fine.
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lol this bsod stuff looks so god darn random, i wish it was more concentrated so ppl could determine the ultimate cause.
btw another Q, hows the call quality ? and still: hows the sound through headphones ( is the stereo cross talk bearable ? cuz gsmarena said its pretty sucky, wondering how is it in real life situations)

xilw3r said:
lol this bsod stuff looks so god darn random, i wish it was more concentrated so ppl could determine the ultimate cause.
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You're not the only one!
xilw3r said:
btw another Q, hows the call quality ? and still: hows the sound through headphones ( is the stereo cross talk bearable ? cuz gsmarena said its pretty sucky, wondering how is it in real life situations)
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I've found the call quality to be fine - in quiet situations, it's excellent, in noise situations it's fine. I've not used the handsfree, so don't know how calls are through headphones, but music is aok .

goatee said:
but music is aok .
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thanks do you use the supplied headphones or your own ?

Np - I use my own - Goldring NS1000.
xilw3r said:
thanks do you use the supplied headphones or your own ?
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[Q] A Rhetorical Question: Should I Buy The 2X?

Thats right people, i just made the million dollar question. As a quick background, ive owned an ETEN X500 (terrible phone), an HTC TD2 (ridiculous newton rings issues) and up until a few days i was a proud owner of an Acer Liquid E, which was, with the help of some geniuses up at modaco, an amazing handset which had cost me only about 280 euros more than a year ago. Due to a terrible car accident (from which i miraculously survived almost intact) the Liquid fell into the sea and, well, thats all with that. As you can tell im not into paying incredible money for a phone, since i hate contracts (pay-as-you-go is the future lol), so id rather save up and pay for an unlocked device. I have found a pretty good deal on the Optimus 2X, about 380 Euros, which i consider great for a dual-core device, but as i keep on reading page after page here, im quite shocked on the amount of issues this phone has. The screen bleeding is really nothing new for an IPS LCD display, ive seen it b4 and im sure ill see it again, and its only noticeable in extreme situations (full brightness, black background and nothing else) so im not so much worried about it. The lag/freeze/reboot situation is a completely different issue of course. There are so many people experiencing these problems that one may think that the 2X is a faulty device by design, but im still not totally convinced about it. Are we seriously talking about bad HW here, or is there any substantial hope of getting a holy-grail-type SW fix? I know that this has been talked over again and again and i have already read more than 50 pages on that, so my question goes more to the people that have done serious research on the issue and could, possibly, have a more global view on it. The phone does have all im lookin for on a device: dual-core CPU, LCD display (S-AMOLED burn-in? no thanx), HDMI, 1080p video, affordable.. But having lots of doubts, as expected.
Anyways, any thoughts/replies would be very welcome.
PS Even if i dont end up buying the phone, good luck to the owers
Peace

Buy it, root it, install CM7 on it, most issues would be gone. Gingerbread also slated to come soon. This is a value for money phone imo.

The freeze problem I think are not on every device. I think that some countries do not have this prohlem at all. Like here in Slovakia I read a lot of reviews and people reviews, and no one was affected by this problem. So I bought it too, and never this problem never happened so far. So... you make a conclusion
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Buy the phone, The bang for buck is high regarding performance. Screen is good and if you lucky like me almost no back bleeding. The phone itself has a solid build and you get the Quality feel when you hold it. Camera is good and HD recording as well.
I only had the random reboot issue at the begging but with the latest Update its better now, has occurred but not that often like 1 in a month or something. Lags sometimes when installing apps or the F-secure is doing its thing.
Overall i'm happy with the phone, Just wished that LG put more ram and faster NAND. However don't get me wrong the phone doesn't bottleneck because of this performance wise. If i where you and wanted powerhouse that's cheap then the 2x is for you.
Also note that i run Stock ROM froyo, think with GB things will get better.
A tip if you get it change the launcher right away or put another ROM(CM7 or Modaco if you ask me, also check out MIUI) and Kernel.
(Haven't done it myself cause of lack of time, need to start exploring Android dev wise. Used to work with Winmo 6.1 on my xperia x1 (old dev) ).

If you have plans to use custom ROMs, buy it. I never had any problems with it.
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Thanx for the replies guys, its good to know that things may not be as bad for everybody. I guess i might take my chances with this one.. Ill def be doing some more reading bout it though.. thanc again

I compared 5 phones:
Sony Ericsson Arc - no front facing camera
Motorola Atrix - no FM radio
Samsung Galaxy S2 - great phone, but a little out of my budget
HTC Sensation - a real contender, but more expensive than the LG and starting to get close in price to the Samsung
LG O2X - the lowest price with all the features I wanted.
I've had one reboot in over one month's use: I had the LG tethered to my notebook (works surprisingly well as a 3G modem). Surfing the net and charging the phone at the same time. I then started making voice calls and Tango video calls while still tethered to the internet and charging.
I could feel the LG starting to get a little warm and then bada bing! Re-boot.
I think I pushed it a little too hard that day.
Under normal use and conditions, my LG works well.
I would happily buy another one of these bronze beauties.
(I think black is also available, but I only ever seem to see the bronze coloured handsets)

Rhetorical answer - No.
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Hi mate, are you from Italy?
I bought it 10 days ago at the same price you said on an Italian website (maybe the same u saw) and I had a lot of BSOD. IMO when you find it at a very low price it's because they have "bad" phones and they want to sell them as soon as possibile but I don't know if this is true!
But you have to consider that with the warranty you are almost sure that any issue will be resolved, you just have to wait... Mine is at the LG center right now and I'm waiting for it. Luckyli my HTC Magic is still working, so I have a good replacement during the wait!
Sorry for my English, I hope you understand everything
CYA

After first few days I was realy disapointed. The SW is realy but realy crap, battery was overheating, lasted only few hours. Response of the phone was very slow and I had few reboots. After 3 days I rooted it, flashed MODACO rom and ... I couldnt get better device for the price.
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With modaco no modaco cm7 this phone is crap going back to iphone when it comes out !gs2 froam samsung is the king !my friend has it is super fast no lags wait befoure you buy i have this phone froam april its not good i paid it 500 €!
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legolittlebrick said:
Hi mate, are you from Italy?
I bought it 10 days ago at the same price you said on an Italian website (maybe the same u saw) and I had a lot of BSOD. IMO when you find it at a very low price it's because they have "bad" phones and they want to sell them as soon as possibile but I don't know if this is true!
But you have to consider that with the warranty you are almost sure that any issue will be resolved, you just have to wait... Mine is at the LG center right now and I'm waiting for it. Luckyli my HTC Magic is still working, so I have a good replacement during the wait!
Sorry for my English, I hope you understand everything
CYA
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I am in Spain actually and it seems that my case looks a lot like yours. The retailer is very well known and it sells in all Europe. There is only 1-5 phones on stock at the moment so i think that maybe its a 'bad batch' that they are trying to get rid of, hence the low price tag. Mixed opinions here as well, so.. im really not sure about it at all. Continue reading

I'm satisfied of the phone...
When I buy it I had a lot of SODs with stock rom, but now with CM7 and MIUI this phone is much better...
Call quality is good
Camera is good (the glass in front of camera is crap...you have to clean it every time otherwise it causes the "myst" problem on the photos)
Battery is average
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Its done.. Ordered the phone today, should have it by wednesday.. Fingers crossed..

Good luck.
Phone: LG Optimus 2X
Android version: 2.2.2
Baseband version: 1035.21-20110614
Kernel version: 2.6.32.9
LGE version: LGP990-V10c
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So.. The phone arrived yesterday from the UK. After about 10 hours of heavy usage i had 1 reboot, that, from what ive read over these days, doesnt really bother me.. Coming from a Liquid E, this phone feels very very fast, no lags or slowdowns of any kind. From earlier experience and knowing that the phone is on stock ROM, i can imagine that with a custom CM7 it should be faster than Bolt. BTW i left the phone last night with 64% battery and this morning i had.. 64% battery!! Incredible.. Anyways, im not gonna be flashing custom roms just yet, the only thing im interested in at the moment is getting the [email protected] patch working.. Even though i have found the 'start here' post here on xda, it will take some time to understand what needs to be done 1st etc since there's no clear guide, but im used to this kind of situations (just like anyone with a smartphone browsing through xda pages i guess).. Very happy with my purchase for now, i think that a tegra2 phone for 370 Euros was a bargain after all.. Thanx for your input, c ya around

Ximo F. Verde said:
So.. The phone arrived yesterday from the UK. After about 10 hours of heavy usage i had 1 reboot, that, from what ive read over these days, doesnt really bother me.. Coming from a Liquid E, this phone feels very very fast, no lags or slowdowns of any kind. From earlier experience and knowing that the phone is on stock ROM, i can imagine that with a custom CM7 it should be faster than Bolt. BTW i left the phone last night with 64% battery and this morning i had.. 64% battery!! Incredible.. Anyways, im not gonna be flashing custom roms just yet, the only thing im interested in at the moment is getting the [email protected] patch working.. Even though i have found the 'start here' post here on xda, it will take some time to understand what needs to be done 1st etc since there's no clear guide, but im used to this kind of situations (just like anyone with a smartphone browsing through xda pages i guess).. Very happy with my purchase for now, i think that a tegra2 phone for 370 Euros was a bargain after all.. Thanx for your input, c ya around
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in Holland u can get it for €318,-
its alot cheaper then the €478,- for the galaxy S2 and Sensation.
2 of my hfriends have a sensation and galaxy s2. mine is the fastest
(i want an optimus 3d now )

i can only choose between LG O2x or Nexus S, i like the timely software support of the S but the specs on LG are way superior...should i just get the LG?

Ximo F. Verde said:
So.. The phone arrived yesterday from the UK. After about 10 hours of heavy usage i had 1 reboot, that, from what ive read over these days, doesnt really bother me.. Coming from a Liquid E, this phone feels very very fast, no lags or slowdowns of any kind. From earlier experience and knowing that the phone is on stock ROM, i can imagine that with a custom CM7 it should be faster than Bolt. BTW i left the phone last night with 64% battery and this morning i had.. 64% battery!! Incredible.. Anyways, im not gonna be flashing custom roms just yet, the only thing im interested in at the moment is getting the [email protected] patch working.. Even though i have found the 'start here' post here on xda, it will take some time to understand what needs to be done 1st etc since there's no clear guide, but im used to this kind of situations (just like anyone with a smartphone browsing through xda pages i guess).. Very happy with my purchase for now, i think that a tegra2 phone for 370 Euros was a bargain after all.. Thanx for your input, c ya around
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Abot the battery issue, Ive been having it too after one month using it. The thing is, that the phone actually gets charged, but somehow the phone unable to detect the actual battey level.
I found that restarting the phone will get the phone to redetect the battery again. I think its a SW problem though, so any custom ROM will likely fix the problem.

goothu99 said:
i can only choose between LG O2x or Nexus S, i like the timely software support of the S but the specs on LG are way superior...should i just get the LG?
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If you like to have the latest version of Android OD with no bells and whistles then get the Nexus.
If you like to wait 6+ months for LG to install a boatload of crap (that nobody wants) into a phone, then be late for work every other day because the alarm didn't work etc etc then go for the LG.
Nexus S anytime.

Would you recommend the D3?.

Ok so right now am looking for a phone to buy.
And had the droid x
And droid charge.
So my question is would anybody recommend the d3?
And how is the development for the d3 look in the future?
I heard about motorola unlocking the bootloader but when the day comes, will they only provide it with the new phones? Or would it be like an update?

Absolutely would recommend!
I wholeheartedly recommend the D3 - especially if you are looking for a physical keyboard.
Development is well under way and there are now at least 2 full working ROMs. I've tried both Steel Droid and Monster and both are great - i find monster to be faster and thats my preference.
When I first got the phone, I was pretty bummed that the locked bootloader had put a huge damper on development. Ever since root has been acheived, however, things have been much better and you could not pry my D3 from my cold dead hands.
I hear that Blur is much better than previous iterations, but I use launcher pro so I don't use blur at all.
heres a link to the ROM, Mods and Themes thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289611

As much as I like my D3, I would not recommend it to anyone looking to get a new phone. unless you absolutely need a keyboard, I would wait for either the Droid Razr or Galaxy Nexus. Both will have better hardware and FAR better screens and will be LTE.

I got a D3 yesterday, after having the D1 the last two years. After about 20 hours using it, I love it. I really dig how fast it is, and the larger screen is nice too.
As soon as I got it home, I rooted it and ran the scripts to remove the VZW apps. I really don't see a need to flash a ROM since this D3 runs so smoothly already. I'd like to edit some PNG files here and there, and that will probably be about it for me. I remember the constant flashing of ROM's, SBF files, and themes on my D1. This time around, I'm really not looking forward to that. It feels to me like VZW and Motorola did a great job with the device as is once you skim off the bloatware.
Like SrulDog, I switched to LP immediately. I've been using LP since about the time it was released, so I am very comfortable with it. It runs great on the D3 too.
I say go for it. I don't know how it compares to the Droids you have owned, but I know it is much better than the D1.
-Mike

kishin14 said:
As much as I like my D3, I would not recommend it to anyone looking to get a new phone. unless you absolutely need a keyboard, I would wait for either the Droid Razr or Galaxy Nexus. Both will have better hardware and FAR better screens and will be LTE.
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Sure the screen looks crap sometimes. But I'm standing in direct sunlight in 100 degree weather right now and I can see every detail on it. Try that on an AMOLED.
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I have had this phone for a couple weeks and I am enjoying it. I had an OG Droid that the screen crapped out on me so this was nice because it works! I am used to the hardware keyboard on a Blackberry Tour/Bold 9650 but that's personal preference. I am getting used to this one though and I can fly on it so I guess it's pretty good for a keyboard.
A couple things I have done are root, freeze a few apps like VCast and run Autokiller at Strict, and the phone is as smooth as butter now. It has the same hardware as the Bionic really so I mean it's as high end as you can get. If you want 4G then as mentioned you should wait, but I have been getting great 3G speeds and yes I have to wait for the Market apps to download a little but it's a lot faster than it has been in the past with my OG Droid.

Well 4g isent really a biggy for me.
More like.batterry life and great rom features really

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Sure the screen looks crap sometimes. But I'm standing in direct sunlight in 100 degree weather right now and I can see every detail on it. Try that on an AMOLED.
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/droid3

Great responses here! This is why I love XDA! To answer the question…yes, I would definitely recommend getting a DVD for all the reasons given above. Dev work is going well, CM7 is on the way, and we MAY have an AOSP rom by the weekend (permissions to port pending). The physical keyboard is outstanding, and the screen is good. Even though colors are a bit washed out, being able to view the screen in direct sunlight, with no issues, is a massive bonus. If you don't need the keyboard, and can wait a little while, I would jump all over the Nexus Prime/ galaxy Nexus/ whatever they're calling that 4.65" piece of sexiness! Either way, you'll end up satisfied imo.
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The biggest bugger for me is the lack of RAM. Phone would have been a whole lot better if it had 1GB ram instead 512MB only. The screen is a letdown IMO, but indeed is great in the sun and also better on the battery.
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Aside from the occasional issues from being in Australia, I must say I recommend the Droid 3. It's excellent!

I still fail to see what the lack of ram is holding us back from. But I've already convinced pne person to buy this phone, and they text me damn near everyday to thank me.
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Two years ago the Milestone was an awesome terminal for its time.
Nice design, perfect size, one of the best display ever seen, incredibly good audio quality and decent CPU power.
The only drawbacks were the horrible battery life, the cheap keyboard and the crap camera.
The D3, although can't be considered a bad phone, is the shadow of what the MS1 was.
The performances (I mean the real ones, not the benchmarks) aren't on par with one years old phones, the crap camera and the poor battery life are still there, the keyboard is improved but is still built like a toy, while the phone grown more than the display, the display went from the best available to the worst ever seen, the signal sensitivity went from the top to the "below the average". The audio quality, while better than the HTC phones is not on par with the motorola ancestors.
As I already said, my Desire Z (aka G2) was a better phone in any area, excluding the audio level and the lack of the numeric ROW.
From my point of view was a boring phone, everything worked from the beginning, good battery life, great photos, super stable system, good keyboard, and fantastic tethering capabilities.
The display was also good, not as the one on the Milestone 1, but light years better than the Droid 3's one.
All in all I suggest to buy the D3 only if you can get a very good deal.
If you like a ready to go smartphone, a DZ/G2 is still a way better choice, especially considering its today average price.

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I still fail to see what the lack of ram is holding us back from.
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x2.
i think people come from older phones and get hung up on the numbers when with a better processor and other amenities a 'low' RAM really isn't a factor and can actually make the phone faster with everything cached and saved to the system memory. I don't even check the RAM since i've never had an issue with slow or choppy speed.
Also i go a whole day with my phone and end with 30% battery at the end of the day. i use it heavy while im out, not as much when home from work but even then i come home with 50-40% battery. I'm not sure what you guys are doing to get poor battery life.

kern417 said:
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I'm not sure what you guys are doing to get poor battery life.
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Usually just using it on modern networks.
The motorola basebands are usually poor (especially on the erly releases), and the power drain has a lot of variation depending on the generation and the make of the BTS/node-b, whatever.
Just for example when I got the milestone 1, with the initial firmware tha battery lasted less than six hour with a vodafone SIM, and almost a day with a three SIM.

The Solutor said:
Usually just using it on modern networks.
The motorola basebands are usually poor (especially on the erly releases), and the power drain has a lot of variation depending on the generation and the make of the BTS/node-b, whatever.
Just for example when I got the milestone 1, with the initial firmware tha battery lasted less than six hour with a vodafone SIM, and almost a day with a three SIM.
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Idk I hear people on Verizon say the same thing and we get pretty good service just about everywhere. sure at my old job where I was tucked in the basement my phone would die quickly but I couldnt blame that on the phone or the software, like you said it's the radio trying to get signal. I think it more depends on the user and how they use the phone/what services they run.
I had installed Juice Defender originally because i thought it would increase battery life, but i turn my screen on and off so much that it actually drained more battery from turning data off and on all the time, so now i only use it to automatically enable wifi when i'm home and turn off data while i'm asleep. maybe something like that could help you out?
All in all I think the D3 is one of the best Android options out. Plus i'm petty and like the fact that not everyone around here has one since it didn't seem to get a bunch of publicity...people still ask me 'What phone is that???"

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I had installed Juice Defender originally because i thought it would increase battery life, but i turn my screen on and off so much that it actually drained more battery from turning data off and on all the time, so now i only use it to automatically enable wifi when i'm home and turn off data while i'm asleep. maybe something like that could help you out?
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When I bought the MS1 "wi sync plus" was the program that saved the ms1 form a jump out of the window.
Btw i never tried any wi sync+ clone, like juice defender.

I'm about to purchased D3 today. Too bad it's hard to find one here. Already ask the seller to check with the supplier if there is any. I only found Motorola Atrix at one single shop here.
This is definitely my choice right now. In my opinion, 512MB RAM is enough for a dual core 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 SoC processor. PowerVR SGX540 is just nice, too bad that it only support OpenGL 2.0 and not DirectX as in Playstation Vita with PowerVR SGX543.
QWERTY keyboard has improved a lot this time. It had HDMI Type-D, Physical Button for Camera & Sound Volume & Micro-USB. I really hope it will get ICS update when it release and capable of USB Host. Another thing is that Motorola had been bought by Google, I believe Motorola will have latest update every time new Android version released. I hope so
One thing that make me stay away from Samsung Galaxy S2 is that it had one single port Micro USB for everything(HDMI through MHL, USB data, USB Charging, USB Host)
If i use HDMI output, then I cannot use USB Host at the same time. I wonder if the USB Host adapter connected to USB Hub, can it handle and recognize multiple device such as keyboard, mouse,game controller,USB Pendrive etc?

Yeah, but the way I understand it, even the phones that have 1gb of RAM right now (Atrix, Bionic) dont really have 1gb because 512mb is locked to be used with Webtop. And so far as I have been able to find, no other phone has more than 512mb right now. Can anyone confirm?
This mattered to me because I have an Atrix right now on AT&T and I absolutely love the phone, but can't take the ****ty service everywhere anymore, have to switch to Verizon. I had basically three phones I was looking at in the Amazon penny sale, D3, Bionic and the new Samsung qwerty, Supernova or something. So, if the above is right, the D3 I'm getting is essentially the same phone as my Atrix now without Webtop (don't care) or 4g (not here for years, boucou wifi) but with a physical kb, which actually makes it way better. I actually really, really like Gingerblur, and if it's slow I dig Launcherpro, so I should be good, yeah?
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This. Coming from an Atrix getting HDMI mirroring will be a big deal to me; I didn't buy any docks and haven't rooted or reflashed other than official 2.3 update, so the only thing I ever get over HDMI is the media player interface. Which is cool, but I want something else.
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Is OB a good option?

Hi OB users, I have been very tempted to buy this phone but I have a few questions that hopefully you can help me answer and decide whether or not it is a good decision to go ahead and buy it.
1.-I've heard battery life sucks, is this true? will it improve significantly if GB is ever released by LG (or maybe ICS will be the immediate update instead)?
2.-LG announced ICS will be released for OB, but I have also seen that LG has let down users many times with upgrades (e.g. GB), so do you still trust LG for keeping your HW up to date in terms of SW?
3.-If you could chose, would you chose again the OB or you would pass?
4.-Have you found HW limitations that have a direct impact over Android performance(amount of RAM, being only single core where the trend is to go dual or even quad)?
5.-Any last thoughts you could give me about your experience with this phone
Thanks in advance to everyone who took the time of reading my post, hopefully you can help me make the best decision.

Answers :
1 - battery life is normal, as any other 4" 1500mah phone, no better,no worse.
2 - Yes i trust about the release, but not the release "date".
3 - For single core, i will choose OB, my next pass is Galaxy Note at moment D), may be different when i actually changing from OB to any other device; but will wait for 3-4 months, OB meets all my need so far.
4 - 1080p video gives jerks, but 720p video runs very smoothly on OB. Haven't experienced much h/w limitations so far. [ i mean look at market, mobiles like Galaxy Y, Ace; Optimus One/Net; Defy etc occupy more than 70% of android phones, so a single core 1ghz 512mb RAM is not bad at all.. ]
5 - Display brightness and colour contrast is by far the best in whole era of smartphones, except LG PRADA 3 releasing this christmas.

It is a good option, as you may know is not the best out there, but it is a good one.
Everyone knows that smartphones are hungryphones, so it's almost the same issue to all devices. I do moderate use of it [2~3 hours calling, 2~3 hours music/gaming, about 1hour of wifi] daily and charge it every 2 days, so it's fine for me.
At the moment there is no single game that I tested and fail. Asphalt HD 6, PES 12, Fieldunners HD, GunBros [and playing online], Minigore, World of Goo, AngryBirds [all of them] and so on...
Display is a higher pro, 12pm at summer and sunniest day of the year still clearly see that display.
I'm not and android knower or anything, but in my opinion the only thing bad is SW updates or should I say no updates at all, but hey we have cm7 in good shape now and getting better

1. For me I find that the battery life of my OB can be quite erratic. Meaning sometimes it could last for 2days without charging, and sometimes the battery will just be depleted overnight (which is quite scary if you're using it as an alarm)
^Without me installing any new apps.
2. They promised, so they would have to get ICS out by hook or by crook or it will be very very bad publicity.
3&4. This I'm not too sure about myself. What I look for in a phone is it being slim and light, and a good camera. The OB is one of the thinnest phones at an affordable price. Maybe I would have gotten the Galaxy S2 or Droid Razr. So far I haven't seen it lag in heavy games like NOVA.
5. The screen is very good, colour accuracy is better than those AMOLED displays every other phone is using imo. the whites on the screen are realllllly white.

1.) Battery life definitely does not suck, it will last for 24 hours with Wi-Fi on, 3G off, 3-4 audio calls, 2 hour gaming, 3-4-5 browsing, Facebook, Messenger, Foursquare, Latitude open non stop, 30min-1h of navigation, 2-3 hours of music on the headphones, screen light on optimized (based on the light sensor ).
I know that some people wish that their Android's battery will last a week or so, but it's not 2001 anymore and these phones are not the 3310s anymore, so, IMHO, 24 hours is great, considering everything you're doing with it in that interval.
2.) Now that I've finally rooted it, I really don;t care. Yes, LG has been really delayed with the GB update, and that could possibly mean that it will delay the ICS release a lot, but that's what we have XDA for, right ?
3.) I would definitely choose the OB again. In my humble opinion it is the best price/performance ratio out there. Big screen, powerful single-core processor, enough ram to handle almost anything you throw @ it, the PowerVR GPU is a great video chipset, third best after MALI and Tegra on the market right now, all in all it's a great phone, and yes, there's always going to be a newer, better phone released, but for its price, the OB does it all.
4.)I kind of already answered that, I'll fill in additional details: There are almost no lags within the UI, the default LG Launcher is sometimes a bit laggy for half a second or so, but its just the launcher, not the phone. After replacing it with Launcher Pro for example, it performs beautifully. My Core i5 Desktop PC doesn't cycle through Windows that smooth :O The 720p playback is brilliant, no lag or other problems at all.
5.) Any last thoughts ? My personal conclusion after owning it and a SGSII for over 2 months now is this: it does 85-90% of what the SGSII does at almost half the price. Definitely a bargain !
Wish you luck with your new phone, regardless of what that will be.

Yes and no
It's like a good car with a bad driver on it... (Hardware and software) I suggest you to find a good car with a good driver Xpreia Neo V can be a good alternative...

if you want high end stuff I suggest you to wait panasonic's come back nearly april (will be presented at CES 2012)
there is also the "free thinking festival" about the OB

Thanks to everyone who read my post and dedicated some time to answer back. OB seems like a really good phone to me now, so hopefully, within the first 2 months of 2012 I might put my hands in one of those (or even sooner if I find it at a good price). Thanks again guys, you are much better than the people on the Acer tab A500 forum that I frequently check. Looking forward for more opinions

in a nutshell, if u want a brilliant 4 inch of screen estate, decent CPU nd a capable GPU,a sleek sexy and awesome looker, vivid camera and the best FRONT FACING cam,a great gesture controllable UI, go for op. Black. The software is no prob.
I had a tok wid MIUI and they confirmed immediate support for the device.also, the official GB will be available by jan latest.
If u want to hear glitches of this phone, am sorry to disappoint you....root nd delete the LG BLOATWRE,u wl hv 1day with heavy use.

I was watching this review on youtube and the guy mentions 2 issues:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BbO5TI7Fg
1.-The phone overheats and becomes unbearable to hold
2.-Signal strenght decreases while holding it (similar to iPhone 4)
Could you guys share your experience in these 2 areas? I am thinking this guy might have received a faulty unit, but I just want to confirm. Thanks again guys.

sensei22 said:
I was watching this review on youtube and the guy mentions 2 issues:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1BbO5TI7Fg
1.-The phone overheats and becomes unbearable to hold
2.-Signal strenght decreases while holding it (similar to iPhone 4)
Could you guys share your experience in these 2 areas? I am thinking this guy might have received a faulty unit, but I just want to confirm. Thanks again guys.
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The phone may overheat when you use it while it is charging or if you're playing heavy games. My OB haven't heated up to a point thats unbearable to hold. Usually the camera area heats up. I believe that all slim phones heat up just like my friend's S2.
When it comes to signal, it's almost at par with nokia phones. With my Giorgio Armani phone, I can't even send sms inside my room, but with my OB, I can recieve and send sms anytime.

Had no such problems until now. Only heated once, but I was heavily multi-tasking atm, cooled down 2-3 minutes later. Regarding the signal, I had trouble with my old Sony Ericsson w960i and with my newer BB 8520 Curve inside this house, but the signal, even on 3G, on the OB is pure brilliancy !

Tips:
for browser use opera mobile for smooth hardware accelerated browsing.
for launcher use launcherpro. Its the smoothest launcher out there.
With all the above and CM7 the effect is my P970 is more responsive than my iphone4. Definitely worth the buy. Other good option with much tempting price is samsung galaxy W.

In my opinion its the BEST VFM out there...i m very satisfied with it!

3.-i would pass.
4.-hw is somewhat limited. gpu is weakest in competition. but games' generally working ok.
5.- sound quailty sucks. buy yourself a mp3 player with ob.

HW-wise the phone is unusable as a car navgiation. The GPS is incredibely inaccurate (50-100m difference is not a problem).
I never experienced overheating (yes, if you push it it's warm but not too much)
SW-wise the original firmware is quite buggy - there are problems with contacts associations, it happened that my phone stopped recieving SMS. There is no stable alternative, nor there is GB upgrade.
If I was considering buying the phone again, I would go for Nexus S, which costs nearly the same money, has larger community support, there is official ICS port and I can actually use it in my car.

Are you happy with your Lg 2x?

So the time has passed. Updates have come(?). Overall are you happy with your Lg 2x? I am certainly not.

I am not happy with my 2X. Battery drain so quickly, looking for upgrade for iPhone 5 after possibly it gets launch in October or November.

Bought mine in march 2011. If you asked me this in april last year, i would have said yes.
But now, NO! I almost hate my phone, waiting for the SGS3 to be available.

i am wondering why aren't you happy..
i got my phone very cheap and i couldn't get near the specs even with double the money. I am running CM9 and even in this not finished state it runs smoothly and the battery lasts 2 days easy

Why in particular are you unhappy?
the stock froyo was crap, i'd agree with that. but since I'm running cm9, the phone is incredibly smooth and battery life is also great.
just curious

Batterylife is terrible! signal is very unstable when on 3G. I paid full price, i preordered it. I admit, i use the phone alot. Not playing games, but surfing, email, all the stuff a smartphone is smart at. But most of the time it is sitting in the charger. Off screen 0,5%-1%/hour.
If i got it for 250€ then i would be satisfied. I paid too much when comparing it to other phone just a month after.
I did not have reboots or black screens of death the first couple of months. It started to be very annoying in the beginning of this year.

I am quite happy with my o2x, just got it very recently(You might ask why with all the new phones coming out etc, well this phone was much cheaper than any other dual core phone/phone with similar hardware and it seemed to have decent support on here which it does). I am running CM9 on it and it is very smooth, sure battery life isn't too great, but it isn't too bad. Not sure why people are unhappy with it besides the battery life, but honestly you won't get that much better on most other phones. Perhaps it is because you got it for quite a expensive price when it was first released and expected more or something or you are comparing it to newer, more expensive phones?

There currently are satisfied with this phone.
I have not had problems, I had installed many custom rom on it.
The only thing that bothers me is support from LG on the update.

I got it through a series of trades, overall money spent: 150€ ~ 200$
For that price it is a great phone but i don't like it very much. Stock firmware is ugly and updates are slow. With custom roms it is a very nice phone, very smooth and with high battery performance.
On the other side i don't like soft touch buttons (too much space occupied) and the overall design (iphone-like)

Very happy with my phone, i bought it in may or june on contract with Orange and it works out that the phone cost me £168... bargain as you would struggle to get something like a wildfire for that price back then!. But i would be even happier if we had ICS officially now and actually had resources to work with so even better third party roms could be made.
Sometimes i do feel that i just WANT to leave the custom ROM area, sometimes i do just want my phone to WORK it works most of the time but theres a fair amount of slow downs and it can get annoying, but value for money i cant fault it!.

u guys compplaining about the o2x, but i can tell you, my friend has a sgs2 and its battery life is far worse than mine, funny if u consider mine is clocked 200 mhz higher than his and theyr both tegra 2. plus i have never even seen a sgs2 even get close to an o2x, even in every benchmark o2x wins by far especialy in graphics, btw ill leave you some screenshots so u can take your own conclusions. btw, this is only my view not sayinng its an absolute truth but still its awesome to see sgs2 oc'd to 1.5 ghz lose in performance to a 1.4 ghz o2x XD

It is a good phone for apps but the odd radio issues still baffle me.
Data can't be reactivated after being disabled for some time.
GPS, Bluetooth and 3G seems to have some warfare, the radio crashes sometimes when i use my A2DP with maps.
And for most people these issues probably will never happen for them.
EDIT: Another thing to add is that the built quality is great, i like the curved glass edges and the camera is really good.

Kag said:
It is a good phone for apps but the odd radio issues still baffle me.
Data can't be reactivated after being disabled for some time.
GPS, Bluetooth and 3G seems to have some warfare, the radio crashes sometimes when i use my A2DP with maps.
And for most people these issues probably will never happen for them.
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well, i gotta tell you, im one of those people... XD i never use 3g, only use data if some1 sends me an mms, but i turn it off as soon as i get it, and i always uninstall google maps and all gps related softare coz i simply dont need em, i got 3 gps devices plus the only time i used the gps on the o2x it ate my battery like there was no tomorrow XD

I'm quite happy with my o2x. Running self kang cm7 stable as rock with good battery life. Tonns of features ....
I'm gonna sit till cm9 comes with hwa. Till then cm7 still my daily driver.

skylinegt77 said:
u guys compplaining about the o2x, but i can tell you, my friend has a sgs2 and its battery life is far worse than mine, funny if u consider mine is clocked 200 mhz higher than his and theyr both tegra 2. plus i have never even seen a sgs2 even get close to an o2x, even in every benchmark o2x wins by far especialy in graphics, btw ill leave you some screenshots so u can take your own conclusions. btw, this is only my view not sayinng its an absolute truth but still its awesome to see sgs2 oc'd to 1.5 ghz lose in performance to a 1.4 ghz o2x XD
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Man both phones are clocked to 1.5ghz not only the sgs2
Also you are running cm, whilst galaxy s 2 is running stock
In same conditions i don't know who wins
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Apart lg sucky support and update the phone is good and im happy with it but i would buy another lg device considering lgs reputation now, might go with huawei new quad core device.

Yes
Yes, i've just installed CM9 on my 2x and it's working great.
I've paid a very low price for this phone and i couldn't expect anything better for that price, at least here in Brazil.
The phone has some bugs, such as loss of signal and battery drain, but it's nothing that makes me hate the phone

Nah, I can't say I am happy with my 2X. ****ty LG support which results in bad performance despite good hardware. Very fast battery drain. Random shutdowns oder sleeps of death where I have to take battery out.

The phone (O2X) rocks, its just that the company "LG" sucks (BIG TIME)
As many have stated, it is comparitively cheaper than its competitors having similar or better specs, we're just let down on the software department thanks to LG but even then with great developers around here, it just makes it on par with the rest.
Been using MIUI till recently and now Temasek's ROM, its running really great and I'm glad to have such support from these devs around.

Basically the bad support and sub-sub optimal stock ROM makes the phone crappy. Hardware-wise it's great.