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Incredible S or Desire HD?

Hi,
So i planned to buy HTC Desire HD until yesterday came HTC Incredible S to my local shop. And im quite surprised, because Incredible S is cheaper than Desire HD - Desire HD costs 503 euros while Incredible S costs 442 euros. So now im wondering... perhaps i should go straight to Incredible S? But the things i want are Big screen, because im planning to read web, pdfs and stuff like that. I wouldnt buy an expensive phone if it has some freezing or rebooting problem (thats why i skipped original Desire), so as i know Desire HD is reliable, stable, fast and doesnt have any problems regarding that. So Incredible S should be just like Desire HD in stability. Some people are complaining of bad Desire HD battery life, and it seems like Incredible S has bigger battery and smaller screen, so battery life on Incredible S should be better, altough i dont worry too much, if battery would last 24 hours with medium usage thats more than enough. So im asking you Incredible S owners - what problems does this phone have (if it does have them at all), and how well it does work? I mean is it snappy and stable like Desire HD? Also, as i said i want big screen, but if the difference isnt that big (4.3 vs 4.0 inch) in reality, i would be totally satisfied with Incredible S screen. I mean how much would 4.3 inch display compared to 4.0 inch improve the web browsing, pdf documents reading experience? If the difference isnt very significant i wouldnt care. Also how about build quality? Desire HD has metal on his back, while Incredible S has rubberised plastic? Does it squeak? You know, metal is always nice it makes phone a bit stronger, but more or less the phone will sit in its case. So overall which one you would recommend me?
Thanks for answers

There are plenty of user reviews in this forum, but in short (and IMHO):
- IS has much better quality screen, albeit slightly smaller (not small enough to make a differance)
- Battery life is much better
- IS has same SOC as the DHD so performance is the same
- Build quality is good. Stable, sturdy and tight

l0st.prophet said:
There are plenty of user reviews in this forum, but in short (and IMHO):
- IS has much better quality screen, albeit slightly smaller (not small enough to make a differance)
- Battery life is much better
- IS has same SOC as the DHD so performance is the same
- Build quality is good. Stable, sturdy and tight
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Thanks, i already readed this forum. But how about hang ups or reboots or something like that? Also how about support? Im almost sure that this phone wont get as much as attention as Desire HD has, altough this is gonna be my first android smartphone, so im not planning to root that phone in near future (too afraid), but still that would be cool if Incredible S would be rooted and Cyanongen mod would be ported to Incredible S, because only HTC Sense and stock android look useful to me, i cant stand all other ui overlays like touchwiz or motoblur, theyre incomplete, laggy and ugly. So anyway as i see you recommend me to go to Incredible S. Well perhaps i will but i need more opinions and replies first, you know i dont want to buy something what i will be regreting for two years.

l0st.prophet said:
There are plenty of user reviews in this forum, but in short (and IMHO):
- IS has much better quality screen, albeit slightly smaller (not small enough to make a differance)
- Battery life is much better
- IS has same SOC as the DHD so performance is the same
- Build quality is good. Stable, sturdy and tight
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i fully agree with you, in all points.
i am was using myself the glacier, it's not stable at all, it's heavy, not liked it at all. now i am using the vivo, i am really happy with it, just the shape of the back cover looks strange for me, the only thing i don't like
for my opinion, this phone will become a best seller !

If it in a rush: certainly buy the IS. If u have some time 2 spare u can wait for the dual cores, which should be a better choice.
Just because the IS is newer, it has some better balanced hardware. A lot of people feel the same way about it. Upgrade is a waste of money, new its definitely worth it. But if you can wait a month or 3 u probably should go for a dual core. For the next 2 year a lot will change in Android and much better support dual cores.
And about your questions: Nvr had any problems, sometimes its a bit baggy, but its over in a second or so. The back doesn't squeak.

Thanks for opinions.
Well im also thinking so, but i found one thing, Desire HD shoots better videos i mean fps than Incredible S, why is that so?
Desire HD video sample : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNtZSgcaToY
Incredible S video sample : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GJHfX5j7Es
The difference is pretty obvious.
About dual cores well i dont see any reason to buy one of them. Why? The current 1 ghz android smarthphones are very fast and smooth theres almost no area for perfomance improvements, so definitely dual cores is not worth a wait. The only advantage i see is gaming, but im not a gamer so i dont care. Also it should improve multitasking but multitasking in android is already pretty smart and optimized for single core cpus.

Nece228 said:
Hi,
So i planned to buy HTC Desire HD until yesterday came HTC Incredible S to my local shop. And im quite surprised, because Incredible S is cheaper than Desire HD - Desire HD costs 503 euros while Incredible S costs 442 euros. So now im wondering... perhaps i should go straight to Incredible S? But the things i want are Big screen, because im planning to read web, pdfs and stuff like that. I wouldnt buy an expensive phone if it has some freezing or rebooting problem (thats why i skipped original Desire), so as i know Desire HD is reliable, stable, fast and doesnt have any problems regarding that. So Incredible S should be just like Desire HD in stability. Some people are complaining of bad Desire HD battery life, and it seems like Incredible S has bigger battery and smaller screen, so battery life on Incredible S should be better, altough i dont worry too much, if battery would last 24 hours with medium usage thats more than enough. So im asking you Incredible S owners - what problems does this phone have (if it does have them at all), and how well it does work? I mean is it snappy and stable like Desire HD? Also, as i said i want big screen, but if the difference isnt that big (4.3 vs 4.0 inch) in reality, i would be totally satisfied with Incredible S screen. I mean how much would 4.3 inch display compared to 4.0 inch improve the web browsing, pdf documents reading experience? If the difference isnt very significant i wouldnt care. Also how about build quality? Desire HD has metal on his back, while Incredible S has rubberised plastic? Does it squeak? You know, metal is always nice it makes phone a bit stronger, but more or less the phone will sit in its case. So overall which one you would recommend me?
Thanks for answers
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I think IS will be popular soon.In fact,it's becoming popular.IS is better than DHD,but it also some problem.some1 said he takes photo red,and he can hear his own voice when he made call.It can't be rooted yet.

I myself too had the same problem with ts, but I went with IS cuz of the battery life
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

Nece228 said:
Thanks for opinions.
Well im also thinking so, but i found one thing, Desire HD shoots better videos i mean fps than Incredible S, why is that so?
Desire HD video sample : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNtZSgcaToY
Incredible S video sample : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GJHfX5j7Es
The difference is pretty obvious.
About dual cores well i dont see any reason to buy one of them. Why? The current 1 ghz android smarthphones are very fast and smooth theres almost no area for perfomance improvements, so definitely dual cores is not worth a wait. The only advantage i see is gaming, but im not a gamer so i dont care. Also it should improve multitasking but multitasking in android is already pretty smart and optimized for single core cpus.
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Shooting videos should be the same considering camera hardware is the same. The video from the Desire HD in the youtube video appeared to be better but I think that had more to do with location and lighting. If you record the same location the video should be identical.

NardVa said:
Shooting videos should be the same considering camera hardware is the same. The video from the Desire HD in the youtube video appeared to be better but I think that had more to do with location and lighting. If you record the same location the video should be identical.
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I saw other videos of incredible s and even those with good light conditions are still worse than desire hd's.

I had a DHD for 2 weeks, and its certainly not a bad phone. But when i was offered to svop the DHD for a IncS, i acceptede it right away, and i havn't regrettede it for one second.
The IncS has much better screen and build quality.
Just waiting for it to bee rooted ;-)

the 2 are good

Thanks again for opinions.
Altough it shouldnt have random reboot or freezing problem, theres thread in here in which quite a few people complain that it restarts itself. Do you have same problem?

Nece228 said:
Thanks again for opinions.
Altough it shouldnt have random reboot or freezing problem, theres thread in here in which quite a few people complain that it restarts itself. Do you have same problem?
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Never - and my IncS it filled up with widgest and 3 part software.

jkolner said:
Never - and my IncS it filled up with widgest and 3 part software.
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Thanks,
Ill probably go to Incredible S now. But i made a deal with shop, so when Desire HD and Incredible S arrives ill have chance to use them both and choose one in the shop.

Better quality life beats hands down rest of Desire family. That is big plus to Incredible S.

Ballistic_78 said:
Better quality life beats hands down rest of Desire family. That is big plus to Incredible S.
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you wanted to say "battery life", didn't you? ;-)

DHD being the Flagship device at the time of release, i would have expected the cost of it would hold for quite some time, even thought the newer IS is out now, it's not quite revolutionary enough to be yet another flagship device at this stage.
But having one on my hand now and having played with my friend's DHD, you are getting a pretty similar device for a bit less money to be honest.
I would definately say go for the IS unless you find a good deal on the DHD.

I had also htc desire hd, it was a good phone but its build quality was not so nice especially the Sim card cover was so badly build, it is so rough and always keep the gap between aluminium part of the phone. so it looked very ugly like a broken phone, and htc knows very well about this issue and many users are using their warranty for this sim card cover.
I prefer htc incredible s over dersire hd on two factors.
IS screen resolution is much better than desire hd. SLCD IS BETTER THAN LCD especially when you are using your phone outside.
IS build quality is also impressive, no doubt it has rubbery back but looks great in hand and no awkward issue like desire hd( Sim cover)
but if you consider only software, then both are same.

ramis7 said:
IS screen resolution is much better than desire hd. SLCD IS BETTER THAN LCD especially when you are using your phone outside.
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Just to clarify, the resolution of both devices is exactly the same. The IS looks sharper and clear because the pixel density is higher, because it is physically smaller. But the end result is it looks crisper, and also the brightness of SLCD is much improved as well

[Q] should i buy this ...thing ?

Hi guys,
i am thinking to buy optimus 2x or desire s. (they both cost almost the same, minor diff), i dont even dare call optimus 2x a phone anymore
desire s:
cool looking, metal body, great size,
BUT sucky camera, non rootable without xtc clip, no devs working on it, and some battery cover problems (squeaky)
optimus 2x:
LOTS of devs (which im hoping will fix the reboot issue), CM (yeaa!), great camera, hardware etc...
BUT its rebooting, getting very hot (for many), screen backlight bleeding and generaly unstable phone... my only gripes with it.
im so lost. any advice is VERY appreciated

The hardware for the Desire S is a real let-down IMHO. I've found my O2X to be stable generally, the early nightlies of CM7 weren't great but after about 10 they really improved. LG's software sucks but the phone is still usable, if laggy.
I've had no heat issue (if anything it runs cooler than my old Desire, if not my DEXT). Likewise the screen bleeding issue. I wouldn't choose any other phone right now.

tickler136 said:
The hardware for the Desire S is a real let-down IMHO. I've found my O2X to be stable generally, the early nightlies of CM7 weren't great but after about 10 they really improved. LG's software sucks but the phone is still usable, if laggy.
I've had no heat issue (if anything it runs cooler than my old Desire, if not my DEXT). Likewise the screen bleeding issue. I wouldn't choose any other phone right now.
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and if i may ask, for how long have you had your o2x ?

Looolll.
Is like comparing a Toyota with a Ferrari....
Ofcourse LG O2X.
I have mine since day one of release.
Some times (once a week or in 2 weeks) BSOD.
Phone never gets warm or what so ever.
Kept it stock for a long time. Rooted my phone like 2 weeks ago.
Just for Adfree, nothing else.

Had mine for a week. Stabile as rock! Not one reboot. No heat issues.
I have frozen antivirus and drivemehome (perhaps those who make the device reboot??)
My battery is good for 2 days with moderate use on 2G network. Have disabled 3G...
The backlight bleeding is a problem with all LCD screen more or less. I dont know why you want to stare at the screen while its pitch black in a room without light... I have some bleeding, but never bothers me. It is usually something to see in the screen

and what about the other loads of ppl who have bsod 5 times per day :| ?
i just really dont want want to go wrong with this because return is not an option

xilw3r said:
and what about the other loads of ppl who have bsod 5 times per day :| ?
i just really dont want want to go wrong with this because return is not an option
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Just play with your phone hardcore for 3 days.
If any BSOD, REBOOT, hot tempure will occure you can go to the store en switch the phone.
And if your phone has these issues, I think you will notice it on the hardcore 3 day use.

xmoo said:
Just play with your phone hardcore for 3 days.
If any BSOD, REBOOT, hot tempure will occure you can go to the store en switch the phone.
And if your phone has these issues, I think you will notice it on the hardcore 3 day use.
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I would do the opposite actually. Using the phone will give you no issues, it's only when left alone that the problems occur.
I seriously wouldn't risk this phone to be honest. You're guaranteed to have issues in one way or another, and you shouldn't have to root and void your warranty to get a reliable phone.

IMHO, if you can wait, I would suggest waiting 6 weeks to 2 months to see how the dual-core phone scene pans out. I think gingerbread would likely be on LG2X by then, as would improved stability on other dual-core phones as well. Also, like all electronic products, the longer you wait to buy - the cheaper they become.

keep in mind that some people had the O2X for 3 weeks before they started getting reboots/ freezes and BSOD. Just saying

Just you wait a little more while. CM7 will be as stable as a rock soon enough.
IMO. The Desire S should be around 2/3 the price of O2X to make it any worthy compared to O2X. It's just an upgraded version of the original Desire with a high pricetag.

The desire and incredible s work out of the box though. Without random reboots and freezes. If you just want a phone that works, I would go with the desire.
The 2x is great hardware for the money, but hardware isn't everything. I'm saying if you were concerned about problems, this really isn't the handset for you. Because you are 99% guaranteed to have issues.
If you are buying this with the intention to hack the hell out of it, you might be ok. You can't beat it's hardware to price ratio.
Don't even think about running this phone on stock if that is your intention.
It still hasn't been fully determined if anyone running stock, no root, no changes haven't had issues. Checking the various threads, I can't see anyone using stock that doesn't have issues. Most have either rooted and frozen apps, or put a complete new rom on.
If there are people running stock and don't have issues, they are a minority at best.
The op is saying a return isn't really an option to them. If so, then look elsewhere.

I hacked the **** out of it. And I love it. I could get an sgs2 but I didnt and thats saying a lot.
Sent from my Optimus 2X using Tapatalk

Go for the o2x really great phone, had mine since day 1 and its never let me down, really glad i choose this over both desire s and sgs2
Hope this helps u decide, and let us know what u get.
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA App

thanks guys. idk, i think im more leaning towards optimus 2x now, cuz of CM mostly, but then again, the size is kinda huge especially for a 4 inch screen.
and 1 more question, hows the audio quality through headphones ? i read in gsmarena that stereo crosstalk is pretty awful, what do you people think ? its kind of important cuz i always use my phone as a music player

Why isn't the stock ROM an option? My first handset had to be replaced on day one. My replacement has BSOD once in a month. BSOD aside, the stock ROM really aint that bad - the LG home app isn't so great, but replace it with Go Launcher (or Launcher Pro or. . . ) and it's fine.
jivemaster said:
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If you are buying this with the intention to hack the hell out of it, you might be ok. You can't beat it's hardware to price ratio.
Don't even think about running this phone on stock if that is your intention.
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goatee said:
Why isn't the stock ROM an option? My first handset had to be replaced on day one. My replacement has BSOD once in a month. BSOD aside, the stock ROM really aint that bad - the LG home app isn't so great, but replace it with Go Launcher (or Launcher Pro or. . . ) and it's fine.
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lol this bsod stuff looks so god darn random, i wish it was more concentrated so ppl could determine the ultimate cause.
btw another Q, hows the call quality ? and still: hows the sound through headphones ( is the stereo cross talk bearable ? cuz gsmarena said its pretty sucky, wondering how is it in real life situations)

xilw3r said:
lol this bsod stuff looks so god darn random, i wish it was more concentrated so ppl could determine the ultimate cause.
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You're not the only one!
xilw3r said:
btw another Q, hows the call quality ? and still: hows the sound through headphones ( is the stereo cross talk bearable ? cuz gsmarena said its pretty sucky, wondering how is it in real life situations)
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I've found the call quality to be fine - in quiet situations, it's excellent, in noise situations it's fine. I've not used the handsfree, so don't know how calls are through headphones, but music is aok .

goatee said:
but music is aok .
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thanks do you use the supplied headphones or your own ?

Np - I use my own - Goldring NS1000.
xilw3r said:
thanks do you use the supplied headphones or your own ?
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[Q] Incredible S or Nexus S (I DID RESEARCH BEFORE POSTING)

Ok i already look onto many many post on this and i still have some question left to decide either im gonna buy the nexus s for 300 or the Incredible s for 300.
1) Comparing the Screen S-LCD (IS) to Super Amoled (NS) which one do you prefer? and is the multitouch better in one or another? I am hesitant on the pentile structure of the S-AMOLED....
2) Battery life which one is better? base on current custom roms/kernel for IS and NS
3) Audio quality from the headphone jack?
4) State any problems with either one.
5) Call quality?
I had a nexus one in the past i loved it but i , for fun, overpriced the phone on a selling site and someone actually wanted to buy it. I couldn't pass up the offer.
oh and will the IS ever have a strong community behind it?

Marginal difference between s lcd and s amoled...... Believe me u won't know unless u actually hold them side by side
Then both have gingerbread now,
HTC IS had a premium build whereas Samsung is plastic, then depends whether u like HTC sense or stock, and also HTC IS has more RAM both are equally fast ,
No root for IS atm , again a personal choice I don't prefer to root my device and void my warranty, HTC has better camera and better sound no comment about headphones though u can always buy a Sony or skull candy earphones for that matter
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk

Both have a strong backing behind them but nexus being a Google phone it will have more development going on
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk

thakur90 said:
Marginal difference between s lcd and s amoled...... Believe me u won't know unless u actually hold them side by side
HTC has better camera and better sound no comment about headphones though u can always buy a Sony or skull candy earphones for that matter
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk
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Thank you very much, but i am more interested in the audio jack, as in the quality output of the device. For example my nexus one audio jack would always have a hissing sound similar to my ipodtouch 1gen. Someone mentioned this is due to the hardware. The update fixes it i think by turning the audio jack off whenever it doesn't play anything or switch between songs, i may be wrong but that what i notice when i pause my music it would hiss for 0.5-1 second and then shuts off. Does the IS have this problem?
Oh and hows the battery life of your IS?

The Nexus S has a 1500 mAh battery and the IS has a 1450 mAh. Also, the super amoled consumes quite less battery than the SLCD. So statistically, the Nexus should have better battery life.
If you don't want to ROOT your phone, the IS (with HTC Sense) is definitely the way to go. If you really want updates and/or ROOT, then you shud get NEXUS S (it's a google phone so it'll get a lot more and fast updates than the IS - sad, but true)

having your android buttons (home back menu search) rotate to match the orientation of the phone is reason enough to choose the IS.
it also feels great, its kinda rubbery, so you wont see fingerprints on it and the back has a very interesting shape which i love too.
i was stuck between the same 2 phones before i chose, but ultimately i went for the IS and i dont regret it.
hopefully we will have root for IS very soon.
its the little things

Rykoshi said:
Thank you very much, but i am more interested in the audio jack, as in the quality output of the device. For example my nexus one audio jack would always have a hissing sound similar to my ipodtouch 1gen. Someone mentioned this is due to the hardware. The update fixes it i think by turning the audio jack off whenever it doesn't play anything or switch between songs, i may be wrong but that what i notice when i pause my music it would hiss for 0.5-1 second and then shuts off. Does the IS have this problem?
Oh and hows the battery life of your IS?
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The hiss is probably due to androids internal media service still running.
I have experienced it on all my android devices. (hero, sgs and is)
I think it has to shut off completely first, before it shuts the power to the speaker/jack off.
When power is still being fed, you will always have some noise from the device's internals.
Battery life is OK for me, but this varies per user ofcourse.
I do try to charge wherever possible, I always have my usb cable with me.
Cheers

djbenny1 said:
having your android buttons (home back menu search) rotate to match the orientation of the phone is reason enough to choose the IS.
it also feels great, its kinda rubbery, so you wont see fingerprints on it and the back has a very interesting shape which i love too.
i was stuck between the same 2 phones before i chose, but ultimately i went for the IS and i dont regret it.
hopefully we will have root for IS very soon.
its the little things
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What internal storage it shipped with ?? in specs they said its 1.1 GB ??

Ya its 1.1 gig buy dude the quality of incredible s is way better than plastic Samsung..... Seriously trust me....HTC quality is impeccable..... Flawless....buy it u won't regret it... I love the HTC sense a lot.... It's very useful and cool too....
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk

got the Incredible S
So yea i ended up buying the incredible s over the nexus s, i am in love with this phone! the incredible s build quality is awesome only problem is the back cover squeak but not that big of a problem since i use a case and it disappears completely. I thought i needed root for custom rom and stuff because the only reason i root my phone is for a better battery life and less bugs. However, trust me this phone last much longer than my previous nexus one. Not sure how it compare to the nexus s but it is enough for me since im rarely away from a computer for more than 10 hours lol.... First day i got it, probably 36 min of modern combat 2, 1 1/2 hours of scrubs(video), surfing the internet for 3 hours , phone 15 min, other little stuff and the rest of the time was on idle. A total of 9 hour and still 56% left.
My friend has a nexus s and comparing it to mine, mines sexier on the outisde, but once this phone is software s-off or xtc clip, we'll be almost even on the inside. The call quality on the nexus s is worse than my IS, even my friend admits it. The audio jack however is better output on the nexus s.
I do miss the customization, different kernels and roms but it not worth choosing the nexus s over just for it that in my opinion. Even in the long run we might miss out or be the one of the last to get on the update but im guessing the future software will start being opt for dual-core phone like the ios4 performance on iphone 4 vs iphone 3g.
Thank you everyone for helping me choose

Good choice mate..... Have fun....
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk

Talking of sound quality htc is far below samsung
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA App

Even me and my friend were in a dilemma which one to go for. Nexus s or IS...
I decided for RED IS available around here and my friends sayin Nexus S is better...
Any way or the other, I jus LOOOOOOVE HTC SENSE!!!!
SENSE FTW!!!

Thinking of ditching.

As much as I like the 4X I am very disappointed with the battery life and the fact we cannot obtain root (well majority of us).
I keep looking at the Hong Kong version of the Meizu MX 4 core. Had a look at some reviews and un boxing vids and looks like a nice device. Has anyone ever used a Meizu device before? What are everyone's views on this?
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ianford10 said:
As much as I like the 4X I am very disappointed with the battery life and the fact we cannot obtain root (well majority of us).
I keep looking at the Hong Kong version of the Meizu MX 4 core. Had a look at some reviews and un boxing vids and looks like a nice device. Has anyone ever used a Meizu device before? What are everyone's views on this?
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I guess it depends what you want from your phone.
I am quite happy with the battery life and its definitely better after several cycles and the v10d update.
Couple of things struck me with the Meizu when compared to O4X though:
4.0" screen vs 4.7"
640 x 960 res vs 1280 x 720
No microSD slot
Micro SIM only
Personally don't like the design either, looks like a chinese iphone clone to me.
Of course it is each to their own though, everyone wants something different from their phones. I bought the O4X on the merits it has, that none of the other current flagships could give me.

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ianford10 said:
As much as I like the 4X I am very disappointed with the battery life and the fact we cannot obtain root (well majority of us).
I keep looking at the Hong Kong version of the Meizu MX 4 core. Had a look at some reviews and un boxing vids and looks like a nice device. Has anyone ever used a Meizu device before? What are everyone's views on this?
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I have the meizu mx 2 core, its a nice phone hardware wise.
screen is very good its almost 300ppi so no dif. really vs the LG phone.
sound in calls are very low even at highest setting.
sound from headphones and speaker is by far the best on any android phone with its wolfson chip.
but there is bad translations in english mode, u have to use locale apps to get right in maps and searches.
u have to install special apps to get into the "real menu" for sync accounts otherwise its flyme only.
almost all support is in chinese.
not much rom development on the device even if its the HK version.
if miui gets a release soon it might be good but i cant recomend it software wise.

etretti said:
I have the meizu mx 2 core, its a nice phone hardware wise.
screen is very good its almost 300ppi so no dif. really vs the LG phone.
sound in calls are very low even at highest setting.
sound from headphones and speaker is by far the best on any android phone with its wolfson chip.
but there is bad translations in english mode, u have to use locale apps to get right in maps and searches.
u have to install special apps to get into the "real menu" for sync accounts otherwise its flyme only.
almost all support is in chinese.
not much rom development on the device even if its the HK version.
if miui gets a release soon it might be good but i cant recomend it software wise.
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Thank you for the info, is the software really that bad?
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ianford10 said:
As much as I like the 4X I am very disappointed with the battery life and the fact we cannot obtain root (well majority of us).
I keep looking at the Hong Kong version of the Meizu MX 4 core. Had a look at some reviews and un boxing vids and looks like a nice device. Has anyone ever used a Meizu device before? What are everyone's views on this?
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The battery life with v10d is very very good! And the phone is amazing! I hope that the root will arrive! At the moment the 4x runs very good!
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nikokazaa said:
The battery life with v10d is very very good! And the phone is amazing! I hope that the root will arrive! At the moment the 4x runs very good!
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I think my phone has an issue then. I went to sleep and the percentage was at 77, I woke this morning and it was 34%. I was asleep for 9 hours.
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Perhaps you have some battery eating app running?
I always have data off until I need it and WiFi only on when the screen is on and since v10d the phone drops about 2% battery overnight now.
Seems the saver core works really well in standby as that matches my sensation with a custom battery saver kernel.
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sadly, i am starting to share the same opinion, NOT because of root options, but the functionality of the OS on this model.
it seems they handle sensors incorrectly, and without root, we cannot even try to fix it here.
- is it just me or is it very annoying that when you press power, it takes ages (2-3 seconds) before it responds and turn on the display? (when its in standby)
- when you hang up a call, is it just me or does the thing takes forever?, and the proximity sensor for turning on display when you move it away from your head, i know it can be modified, but why would LG have the delay soooo f.... long? HTC has none of these issues, its almost close to being tooo sensitive?

Dexter_nlb said:
sadly, i am starting to share the same opinion, NOT because of root options, but the functionality of the OS on this model.
it seems they handle sensors incorrectly, and without root, we cannot even try to fix it here.
- is it just me or is it very annoying that when you press power, it takes ages (2-3 seconds) before it responds and turn on the display? (when its in standby)
- when you hang up a call, is it just me or does the thing takes forever?, and the proximity sensor for turning on display when you move it away from your head, i know it can be modified, but why would LG have the delay soooo f.... long? HTC has none of these issues, its almost close to being tooo sensitive?
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I don't have that kind of issue. Does it stay after a full wipe ?
I had a Gnote juste before the 4x HD. Every body was happy about Gnote battery life but not me. With to different Gnote under cyanogen, i had constant battery drain. I'm sure it was software, but i never found wich app was draining. For me, there was no way to have a full day without charging.
Lg 4x is working better for my usage. With green power, i lost maybe 1% during the whole night. The screen is far more responsive. Its seems to handle more precise finger position, build quality is top, size great, screen perfect.
Really a great little phone. i'm quite happy.

alexp999 said:
Perhaps you have some battery eating app running?
I always have data off until I need it and WiFi only on when the screen is on and since v10d the phone drops about 2% battery overnight now.
Seems the saver core works really well in standby as that matches my sensation with a custom battery saver kernel.
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I have done a factory reset and see how it goes over the weekend, if no improvement then sadly I will say goodbye to LG
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Dexter_nlb said:
sadly, i am starting to share the same opinion, NOT because of root options, but the functionality of the OS on this model.
it seems they handle sensors incorrectly, and without root, we cannot even try to fix it here.
- is it just me or is it very annoying that when you press power, it takes ages (2-3 seconds) before it responds and turn on the display? (when its in standby)
- when you hang up a call, is it just me or does the thing takes forever?, and the proximity sensor for turning on display when you move it away from your head, i know it can be modified, but why would LG have the delay soooo f.... long? HTC has none of these issues, its almost close to being tooo sensitive?
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looking at your post, i did the test and gound that you are right! but it's been half a month since i got this phone, and i did notice it before i read it from your post... so there are no use case for me where it can be realy annoying, because we are always talking about 1 to 3 seconds!
also, mi old Galaxy S with CM9 isn't faster .
I am also waiting for root (battery life is ok for me since v10d although my wifi is on all the time), but since this phone is realy new, an not as popular as Samsung ans HTC's flagships, I know that it will take more time.

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also, mi old Galaxy S with CM9 isn't faster .
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i had a Galaxy S too and still is within family reach and i do honestly not feel it was that bad. but yes we might be down to 1/2 a second, but the feel of this is a little annoying. but yes, i come to live it hoping i can fix it when its rooted but really, LG could have made it customizable. when they had to make it so strange.

everything here is fast, no delays, when calling, screen is intant on/off, also when the phone is laying around and i push the power button, i get nearly instant screen on ....
dunno why, i only have wiped the device before and after the 10D update

Dexter_nlb said:
sadly, i am starting to share the same opinion, NOT because of root options, but the functionality of the OS on this model.
it seems they handle sensors incorrectly, and without root, we cannot even try to fix it here.
- is it just me or is it very annoying that when you press power, it takes ages (2-3 seconds) before it responds and turn on the display? (when its in standby)
- when you hang up a call, is it just me or does the thing takes forever?, and the proximity sensor for turning on display when you move it away from your head, i know it can be modified, but why would LG have the delay soooo f.... long? HTC has none of these issues, its almost close to being tooo sensitive?
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I don't have this issues.. screen responds very fast.. no delay when hang-up..
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atlexx said:
looking at your post, i did the test and gound that you are right! but it's been half a month since i got this phone, and i did notice it before i read it from your post... so there are no use case for me where it can be realy annoying, because we are always talking about 1 to 3 seconds!
also, mi old Galaxy S with CM9 isn't faster .
I am also waiting for root (battery life is ok for me since v10d although my wifi is on all the time), but since this phone is realy new, an not as popular as Samsung ans HTC's flagships, I know that it will take more time.
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Are there any other reasons to jump ship?
Reviews talk about how far the display is from the screen? Is that bad?
Someone from LG told me that the 4XHD can record phone calls (when in conversation go to voicerecorder and start recording, you should hear a beep every 10 seconds orso). Can someone verify this? I know that the SGSII & III can't nor the One X.
Some reviews also talk about the phone being too quiet? How is the volume when ringing? When in a pocket or coat (in a pouch)?
How's in call audio? How's the earpiece audio?
I'm just wondering if when used as a phone the 4xHD is a better option then the OneX? The One X has a proper notification led which is bright unlike the one from the Xperia U (which the sales dip**** should have said before I bought the damn thing). The One X IS loud when playing music and video so assume it's as loud when ringing. The OneX's screen looks great. But it can't record calls which is important for me.
The price difference is about 30 euro's between OneX and 4xHD
Cheers.

epdm2be said:
Are there any other reasons to jump ship?
Reviews talk about how far the display is from the screen? Is that bad?
Someone from LG told me that the 4XHD can record phone calls (when in conversation go to voicerecorder and start recording, you should hear a beep every 10 seconds orso). Can someone verify this? I know that the SGSII & III can't nor the One X.
Some reviews also talk about the phone being too quiet? How is the volume when ringing? When in a pocket or coat (in a pouch)?
How's in call audio? How's the earpiece audio?
I'm just wondering if when used as a phone the 4xHD is a better option then the OneX? The One X has a proper notification led which is bright unlike the one from the Xperia U (which the sales dip**** should have said before I bought the damn thing). The One X IS loud when playing music and video so assume it's as loud when ringing. The OneX's screen looks great. But it can't record calls which is important for me.
The price difference is about 30 euro's between OneX and 4xHD
Cheers.
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OneX and 4xHD are both bad in terms of battery HOWEVER the 4xHD has a bigger and replacable battery.
Also 4xHD's screen is on par with the OneX and thereby the best I've seen to date. (Better than new iPad btw)
Had no issues with sound at all. Speaker is crystal clear (sometimes a bit too clear but still very good), didn't try the music with LG earpieces though. Other earpieces sounded good to me.
Volume of the ringtone... No idea. Didn't really care but haven't missed a call for now, so I suppose it's good enough.
4xHD also has an micro SD card slot (up to 64 gb) wich in my eyes is a huge advantage.
Plus I had nothing but good with LG so far.
You should only consider buying the OneX if:
You need the additional community support (LG will never attract as many devs however cyanogenmod will most likely be ported as soon as it's rooted. (Probably even officially supported))
You need the best camera in town (Except for Nokias 41 Mpix phone-camera of course)... read you need the fastest camera in town.
You need Sense. (LG's is more smooth and really (I mean REALLY REALLY) among the best, however it's just not as polished as HTC's)
You need Dropbox Space (You get Box.net space with LG I think. Too bad I don't really use that.) (OneX has up to 25gb for 2 years).
If you said no to one or all of the above:
Get the LG.
BTW For me Samsung S3 is a no no because of the design, the crappy touchwhizz and the worse screen in sunlight... But it does have the even larger community support and the supposedly less energy consuming processor.

Hey guys
Just to let you know if your having problems with the stock 4x then you can complain to LG about it. On their chat support you can ask to raise a VOC (voice of customer) then give them suggestions and improvements. When I talked to support the guy did try to help even though I don't have an optimus 4X.
I'm sure they'll try to help if they can.
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HTC One Camera and overheating questions

Hey guys I'm about to buy an HTC One .. I'm a student and it took me a lot of time and hard work to get the money ... I need an honest advice from you guys plz
1. What's this problem with the Camera having a purple/pink tint ?? Is it a wide range problem ? A lot of users have it ? Or just some faulty devices ?
2. I heard that it overheats a lot .. is that true ? And if yes then when exactly does that happen ?? Games ? Or just excessive use ?
Thanks in advance to everybody who will answer .. much appreciated !!
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Hiken_Ace said:
Hey guys I'm about to buy an HTC One .. I'm a student and it took me a lot of time and hard work to get the money ... I need an honest advice from you guys plz
1. What's this problem with the Camera having a purple/pink tint ?? Is it a wide range problem ? A lot of users have it ? Or just some faulty devices ?
2. I heard that it overheats a lot .. is that true ? And if yes then when exactly does that happen ?? Games ? Or just excessive use ?
Thanks in advance to everybody who will answer .. much appreciated !!
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I don't have any problems with my device.the camera is great for taking pics with it's wide angle lens. (You can get so much into a single pic) my phone had become hot sometimes when I was on 4.2 but since upgrading to sense 4.3 (leaked) I had not had any problems with heat whatsoever
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Hiken_Ace said:
Hey guys I'm about to buy an HTC One .. I'm a student and it took me a lot of time and hard work to get the money ... I need an honest advice from you guys plz
1. What's this problem with the Camera having a purple/pink tint ?? Is it a wide range problem ? A lot of users have it ? Or just some faulty devices ?
2. I heard that it overheats a lot .. is that true ? And if yes then when exactly does that happen ?? Games ? Or just excessive use ?
Thanks in advance to everybody who will answer .. much appreciated !!
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Hi,
1) I (we) don't really know, software or hardware issue... , I have not this issue personally (HTC black), maybe take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317507 for more info...
Even after updated to Android 4.2.2, custom kernel, etc... I never had this pink tint...
2) No overheating here... It's clear that play an heavy game while charging and yes your One will overheated..., ambient temperature plays its role, overclocking too...
Browsing in 3/4g in sun or while charging is the same thing (even without sun/charging LOL, same thing for all phone with a beast of CPU), quadcore at 1.72 Ghz, simple... It inevitably heats but ther is a different between heat and overheat.
There is a difference between the "overheating" you feel and the real temperature of both CPU/battery checked by an app. Without any real temperature report the overheating is subjective... With stock or custom kernel I never had temperature issues.
In any case there are some overheating protection (thermal throttling) and with a custom kernel that allows some thermal settings, you can increase the thermal throttling so less heat... and even undercloked/undervolted and that can help a little...
Maybe I'm lucky and I speak, maybe, only for me, but I have no issues as above for my One (black HTC One from June)...
EDIT: ok it's not about the HTC One, but generally about overheating for a quadcore (S4). It's about the LG nexus 4 known for overheating:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2372733
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2214629
Read all...
After all that it depends of your usage, the One is an awesome device (I came from a Galaxy SIII and I've always my Nexus 4), but depending of your use maybe there is better. I think about pictures... In lowh light the One is far better than a Galaxy SIV, but in "normal" use... Maybe not. It's like the screen, the "formfactor", the "overlay" (Sense vs Touchwiz), etc...
I think I've been around, at least for me

viking37 said:
Hi,
1) I (we) don't really know, software or hardware issue... , I have not this issue personally (HTC black), maybe take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317507 for more info...
Even after updated to Android 4.2.2, custom kernel, etc... I never had this pink tint...
2) No overheating here... It's clear that play an heavy game while charging and yes your One will overheated..., ambient temperature plays its role, overclocking too...
Browsing in 3/4g in sun or while charging is the same thing (even without sun/charging LOL, same thing for all phone with a beast of CPU), quadcore at 1.72 Ghz, simple... It inevitably heats but ther is a different between heat and overheat.
There is a difference between the "overheating" you feel and the real temperature of both CPU/battery checked by an app. Without any real temperature report the overheating is subjective... With stock or custom kernel I never had temperature issued.
In any case there are some overheating protection (thermal throttling) and with a custom kernel that allows some thermal settings, you can increase the thermal throttling so less heat... and even undercloked/undervolted and that can help a little...
Maybe I'm lucky and I speak, maybe, only for me, but I have no issues as above for my One (black HTC One from June)...
EDIT: ok it's not about the HTC One, but generally about overheating for a quadcore (S4). It's about the LG nexus 4 known for overheating:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2372733
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2214629
Read all...
After all that it depends of your usage, the One is an awesome device (I came from a Galaxy SIII and I've always my Nexus 4), but depending of your use maybe there is better. I think about pictures... In lowh light the One is far better than a Galaxy SIV, but in "normal" use... Maybe not. It's like the screen, the "formfactor", the "overlay" (Sense vs Touchwiz), etc...
I think I've been around, at least for me
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Thanx for the detailed answer it was really helpful .. and Yeh I'm choosing HTC mainly cuz I got used to the UI ..its very practical and easy to use ... It's just that this pink camera is scaring me .. a lot of people complaining about it :/
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FitAmp said:
I don't have any problems with my device.the camera is great for taking pics with it's wide angle lens. (You can get so much into a single pic) my phone had become hot sometimes when I was on 4.2 but since upgrading to sense 4.3 (leaked) I had not had any problems with heat whatsoever
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Thank u very much much appreciated
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I live in a very hot state in the U.S. and I browse while in the sun and listen to music as it does get hot no more than I suspect it would, in face less than expected. My sgs3 would get to 125° on the regular with the same situations, the HTC One got to 122° so far. No camera issues for me either. I say go for it, play with it for a while heavily in the conditions you're used to and make your final decision before having your 14 day (or whatever it may be for you) grace period gone.
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mt3g said:
I live in a very hot state in the U.S. and I browse while in the sun and listen to music as it does get hot no more than I suspect it would, in face less than expected. My sgs3 would get to 125° on the regular with the same situations, the HTC One got to 122° so far. No camera issues for me either. I say go for it, play with it for a while heavily in the conditions you're used to and make your final decision before having your 14 day (or whatever it may be for you) grace period gone.
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Thanx a lot much appreciated
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Hiken_Ace said:
Hey guys I'm about to buy an HTC One .. I'm a student and it took me a lot of time and hard work to get the money ... I need an honest advice from you guys plz
1. What's this problem with the Camera having a purple/pink tint ?? Is it a wide range problem ? A lot of users have it ? Or just some faulty devices ?
2. I heard that it overheats a lot .. is that true ? And if yes then when exactly does that happen ?? Games ? Or just excessive use ?
Thanks in advance to everybody who will answer .. much appreciated !!
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I have no issue with the camera so can't comment on that.
The phone frequently feels warm in your hand and that's because of the aluminium body; this acts as the heatsink for the internals so the heat is transferred to the body which is actually a benefit you don't get on a plastic body. Although it can feel warm/hot in the hand a check of the temperatures will show it's well within safety limits. It can overheat doing things like gaming whilst charging or running a nav program whilst charging but in severe cases overheat protection will kick in to prevent damage.

I have a camera with purple tint issue and it is not because of heat.
Until now the issue is not resolved by HTC. Some users got a perfect camera when they bought it, but a few months later their camera became defective without any reason.
So, if camera is a main point for you, you better rethink again. Also don't forget to check after sales service in your country. In my country, it is terrible. Been waiting camara's part for almost 3 months, still no news.
You can also check purple tint thread in this forum for more info.

I have this phone for a couple of months now and I am satisfied with it but there are some things to consider.
1. The issue with the camera is difficult in a way that it is subjective, and it takes a little bit of trying to replicate. So there might be guys saying they don't have it because they simply haven't noticed it. However looking at the poll in the widely know post about that issue, clearly tells me it is a general thing, even taking into account guys that deny it. Our best bet now is that it is due to sensor overheating.
When I first saw that thread myself, I have tried what the guys were saying. Was covering the lens, was shooting dark photos and I came to conclusion that mine camera is fine, but it either grow on me or the sensor got damaged over time as now I can clearly see the issue.
2. I am using GPE rom on it and while it is very nice and all, now when I think about it - the phone is as good as the software on it. If I was living in the US and could buy Nexus 4 for that cheap I would definitely choose Nexus 4, and then with saved money update to another Google device. Here in Europe the difference in price between Nexus 4 and Htc One is not that big. That being said, if you are going to use GPE rom on it and value your money, Nexus 4 is a better option in my opinion.
However if you want better specs and want a device that will last you a little bit longer then Htc One is perfectly fine.
3. If you are not going to use GPE rom but the stock Sense one then I gotta tell you that it is very solid. It is so much better than TouchWiz that this is crazy.
4. The quality control at HTC seems to be low. If you want a perfect device with no gaps with no recessed buttons, with the display that is perfectly aligned with the rest of the body, prepare yourself that this might not happen on the first try.

Ciebiada said:
I have this phone for a couple of months now and I am satisfied with it but there are some things to consider.
1. The issue with the camera is difficult in a way that it is subjective, and it takes a little bit of trying to replicate. So there might be guys saying they don't have it because they simply haven't noticed it. However looking at the poll in the widely know post about that issue, clearly tells me it is a general thing, even taking into account guys that deny it. Our best bet now is that it is due to sensor overheating.
When I first saw that thread myself, I have tried what the guys were saying. Was covering the lens, was shooting dark photos and I came to conclusion that mine camera is fine, but it either grow on me or the sensor got damaged over time as now I can clearly see the issue.
2. I am using GPE rom on it and while it is very nice and all, now when I think about it - the phone is as good as the software on it. If I was living in the US and could buy Nexus 4 for that cheap I would definitely choose Nexus 4, and then with saved money update to another Google device. Here in Europe the difference in price between Nexus 4 and Htc One is not that big. That being said, if you are going to use GPE rom on it and value your money, Nexus 4 is a better option in my opinion.
However if you want better specs and want a device that will last you a little bit longer then Htc One is perfectly fine.
3. If you are not going to use GPE rom but the stock Sense one then I gotta tell you that it is very solid. It is so much better than TouchWiz that this is crazy.
4. The quality control at HTC seems to be low. If you want a perfect device with no gaps with no recessed buttons, with the display that is perfectly aligned with the rest of the body, prepare yourself that this might not happen on the first try.
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Much appreciated mate ! Was really helpful !! I think I'm going to wait a little bit .. just to see how HTC is going to react to the camera thingy
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Hi there,
It does "overheat" but still stays alive.
Also when u make over 500 pictures in a very short time (I did 5x 100 quick burst shot pictures) my phone heats up very much and I get that big purple dot. Goes away quick after cooling my phone down.

I also have not experienced any problems with my camera. I guess the ones that have a camera that's okay don't feel the need to comment on that thread, making it look like almost everyone has it.
And yes, it does get warm at times. It shouldn't get any hotter than, say, a Galaxy S4 (same processor, but slightly higher clocked), but it is possible that it's easier to feel because of the aluminium design. If you wouldn't feel the warmth, it'd mean all the warmth stays inside the device, which in turn is bad for the processor.

htcm7 said:
I have a camera with purple tint issue and it is not because of heat.
Until now the issue is not resolved by HTC. Some users got a perfect camera when they bought it, but a few months later their camera became defective without any reason.
So, if camera is a main point for you, you better rethink again. Also don't forget to check after sales service in your country. In my country, it is terrible. Been waiting camara's part for almost 3 months, still no news.
You can also check purple tint thread in this forum for more info.
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can you plz tell me where did you buy your phone from and when ?