Apps with a mind of their own - Motorola Droid 3

After own my device for a couple weeks, numerous stock apps have started opening themselves. The main offenders are social networking, media share, maps, google search, Google+ huddle, mobile hotspots, email and gmail, along with a couple downloaded apps. This never used to happen. I did notice it was around the same time as I got the Facebook update, which also never closes now. Anyone know how to prevent this. I don't use most of these apps and don't need them using up my ram
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factory reset, or root and install minfree and tweak it to your liking
auto mem manager doesnt work for crap

This is my first android and I've got some hesitation on rooting since I have the Canadian xt860 and the all the efforts of root and more importantly recovery, should I brick my device, are based on the Droid 3, or xt862
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Open the Task Manager App and go to the Auto-End List tab. you can add apps that you want to be killed automatically after the screen is off for 2 minutes. It works well for social networking because i think different apps that you use opens it in the background and it never closes, and its constantly gathering your GPS info.
Also Juice Defender is good to turn off your data connection while the screen is off so apps running data like that will only be able to sync when you want. And not randomly turn on/continue running while your phone is in your pocket.

Not all the apps can be set on the auto end list, social networking and mobile hotspot for example. Although I think the biggest question I have is why is this happening?
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Endoroid said:
Not all the apps can be set on the auto end list, social networking and mobile hotspot for example. Although I think the biggest question I have is why is this happening?
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my mistake i have social location on the auto end list not social networking i got them mixed up. a lot of apps are launched in the background by other apps or launched at startup. My understanding is it is the way that Android helps it open faster the next time you need to.

Ya except I don't use them ever so I don't care if they open faster. I know rooting would solve my problem but until there's a little more support for the xt860 I'm not willing to risk bricking my device. I just thought it was odd it all of a sudden started. Someone had said do a factory reset. What does a factory reset wipe. Would I lose all my paid apps?
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now that we have root, what should/shouldn't we kill

would it be wise to compile a list of the bloatware that we should and should not kill, now that we have root? Also, perhaps the best method to deal with it (Freeze, rename, or outright delete)
Here's what I've successfully removed without any problems so far:
Apps 1.02.16
Backup Assistant 2.3.4
Backup Assistant Client 1.0
Blockbuster 0.8
Citrix Receiver 2.1.1059
Ctiy ID 1.1.7
GoToMeeting 1.0
Guided Tours 2.3.4
Help Center 2.3.4
NFL Mobile 4.0
Skype mobile 1.6.0.15
Slacker 2.1.191
V CAST Media Manager 4.2.99.36
V CAST Music 03.72.107
V CAST Tones 4.5.7
V CAST Videos 5.72.005
VZ Navigator 7.1.5.33
ZumoCast 1.0.17
I just uninstalled them all with Titanium Backup. I've restarted the phone a couple times since and had no noticeable issues.
Is your phone running any faster. Also is freezing them the same as deleteing them
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spacecasespiff said:
Is your phone running any faster. Also is freezing them the same as deleteing them
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DO NOT DELETE. Freeze the apps u dont want cuz u wont be able to get updates if u delete apps
patfactorx said:
DO NOT DELETE. Freeze the apps u dont want cuz u wont be able to get updates if u delete apps
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What type of updates? I made backups of everything first so I can go back and restore everything and freeze it instead... I don't know if I want to though as everything seems good so far.
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What type of updates? I made backups of everything first so I can go back and restore everything and freeze it instead... I don't know if I want to though as everything seems good so far.
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OTA updates to the OS.
I just froze stuff. I feel better doing that. Im trying to figure out if its helped my phone.
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Here is a list of stuff I removed by renaming from .apk to .bak
No issues so far...
BooksPhone
Blockbuster
Citrix
CityID
FriendFeed
GoToMeeting
GuidedTours
HelpCenter
IMPresence
Kindle
NewBayVault
NFLMobile
Protips
Skype
SocialMessaging
SocialLocation
SlackerRadio
Swype
VCast
VCast Apps
VCast Music
VCast Tones
VCast Videos
VZ Navigator
VZWIM
YahooContacts
ZumoCast
i see no one has listed DLNA as a safe to freeze. I know it is constantly running on my D3 and am wondering if its safe to freeze or not.
Even after freezing DLNA, like a couple other apps like Task Manager and Voice Commands, it still seemed to stay resident. After doing an actual uninstall and reboot, I was good. (I did get an infinite force close loop, thus requiring the reboot. I seemed to be able to hold the power button and tap the force close then the shutdown item fast enough to avoid needing a battery pull.)
I agree we shouldn't have multiple threads for the same topic. I think we should take further discussion over to the more trafficked one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235325
djthread said:
Even after freezing DLNA, like a couple other apps like Task Manager and Voice Commands, it still seemed to stay resident. After doing an actual uninstall and reboot, I was good. (I did get an infinite force close loop, thus requiring the reboot. I seemed to be able to hold the power button and tap the force close then the shutdown item fast enough to avoid needing a battery pull.)
I agree we shouldn't have multiple threads for the same topic. I think we should take further discussion over to the more trafficked one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235325
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Agreed... we should move this over to the other thread.... can one of the mods close this down?
Can anyone upload backups for these files for those of us (ahem) who went a little gung-ho on deleting apps instead of freezing? (meh bad).
haberbe said:
Agreed... we should move this over to the other thread.... can one of the mods close this down?
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Only members with 30+ posts can post to the Dev forum right? This thread serves the new members, like ourselves, who cannot yet post to the Dev forum.

Disappearing Apps!

This is ridiculous man. I've had 3 moto phones now and have never seen it like this! Every reboot I lose at least 5. The XDA app is cursed on this phone, not to mention others.
Before you ask, I didn't transfer anything to the media area.
This is silly, and needs to get sorted out soon.
/rant
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Same thing happening to me. Annoying to say the least.
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You want to know how bad it was the last time my phone was rebooted? (which was from a battery pull due to the XDA app freezing up the phone) - I had 5 1/2 pages of apps before - now I have 4 1/2.
This is wild...
Just got the bionic
And the same thing has happened to me
Kinda annoying
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mistawolfe said:
This is ridiculous man. I've had 3 moto phones now and have never seen it like this! Every reboot I lose at least 5. The XDA app is cursed on this phone, not to mention others.
Before you ask, I didn't transfer anything to the media area.
This is silly, and needs to get sorted out soon.
/rant
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Ok... I won't ask if you transfered anything to the media area.
What I will ask is if you transfered your file which are in the media area back to the phone.
Some apps will install to the media area by default. You need to move them to the phone in manage apps.
Go to manage apps and select the media area tab. Make sure you go down the line and ensure there are no checks in any boxes.
If you have any, move those apps to phone if you don't want them top disappear.
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@dellenrules
Thanks a bunch. Hadn't heard of that fix. Had like 5 that kept disappearing.
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dellenrules said:
Ok... I won't ask if you transfered anything to the media area.
What I will ask is if you transfered your file which are in the media area back to the phone.
Some apps will install to the media area by default. You need to move them to the phone in manage apps.
Go to manage apps and select the media area tab. Make sure you go down the line and ensure there are no checks in any boxes.
If you have any, move those apps to phone if you don't want them top disappear.
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You're a boss.
Just did what you said. I will report back at the end of the day if I lost any apps.
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Not so fast
I just followed the recommendation to the T. And when I attempt to uncheck the box, I get a screen that allows me to move the app back to the phone.
So I next tried to move the app back to the phone, but when I do, I get a popup that states: "FAILED TO MOVE APPLICATION". Repeated tries yield the same results.
The QC on this phone is rubbish.
+1 ... I usually lose XDA, Netflix, and Madden 12. Madden 12 won't even show up in the market for me either although I have paid for it.
If the app you're trying to movve is already missing try re-installing it from the market before you move it to keep your data.
The apps which disapeared all start with "COM." And will have to be re-installed before you can move them.
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When I download apps from Android Market, the Bionic occasionally (rarely) throws an insufficient storage message just prior to installation, despite have >2GB of application storage available. The downloaded file just disappears after that.
If I had to guess, when my apps disappear, they do so during automatic updates.
If you get that error, most likely it was trying to save an app to your media area.
Re-download and install the app.
Once install is complete, send the app back to phone asap. Get it out of the media area.
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dellenrules said:
Ok... I won't ask if you transfered anything to the media area.
What I will ask is if you transfered your file which are in the media area back to the phone.
Some apps will install to the media area by default. You need to move them to the phone in manage apps.
Go to manage apps and select the media area tab. Make sure you go down the line and ensure there are no checks in any boxes.
If you have any, move those apps to phone if you don't want them top disappear.
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This worked for me. No more disappearing apps. Thanks.
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UN mounting and re mounting the internal storage works. So does restarting the launcher after the initial boot. You can use a task manager to kill the home process... When it restarts all my apps re appear
Weak we have to go through all that trouble... But it is better than no fix at all.
Losing apps is not Bionic specific
Dear All:
My lg revolution does the same thing, when I reboot phone not all the apps load. It seems to be software related aka Android glitches. The apps I have installed to the external SD card are the ones that are sometimes lost. Internal memory apps never get lost. BTW my wife's Fascinate the same thing.
drutman said:
Dear All:
My lg revolution does the same thing, when I reboot phone not all the apps load. It seems to be software related aka Android glitches. The apps I have installed to the external SD card are the ones that are sometimes lost. Internal memory apps never get lost. BTW my wife's Fascinate the same thing.
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What class SD card are you using? Try a slower class card. It also might be the brand is not compatible.
Your SD card is the problem.
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I had this problem as well, and after doing a bit of searching around, this is what I came up with. This is apparently a problem plaguing the Bionic right now, and will hopefully be fixed with the soon to come OTA update. When you download apps, go to settings>Applications>Manage Applications>Media Area, and uncheck the apps that you want the phone to not delete, or if it's a new app you just downloaded, make sure it ISN'T checked. In a sense, sometimes the phone will save apps to the SD card (when the box is checked) automatically besides the standard internal memory, therefore when the phone reboots, it might not read the apps in your SD memory very well. So until the OTA udpate comes through, just double check in this area that all apps are unchecked (unless it's Backbreaker, or something). For instance, my DroidForums application kept uninstalling itself, and after checking the Media Area, I noticed that the box beside the name was "checked." After unchecking, it is no longer removing itself.

Prevent apps like Facebook from automatically running

I'be had fairly poor battery performance. When i went into running services i saw that quite a few were running that i didn't start up myself. Like Facebook. Tripit, hootsuite. I've made sure that notifications have been turned off but these apps are still loading up. Any way of making sure they don't load unless i manually load them?
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I've been using watchdog. It lets me know when an app is running in the background and lets me kill it. If there's an automatic solution, I'd like to know about it too.
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Don't use task killers/managers. It's like shutting your computer off repeatedly without shutting it down properly and has the ability to screw **** up.
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Don't use task killers/managers. It's like shutting your computer off repeatedly without shutting it down properly and has the ability to screw **** up.
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Agreed, task killers... kill batteries.
Honestly, having it run in the background doesn't kill your battery. Its the syncing. I'm assuming you are NOT rooted? If so, then there are a number of apps to help you, primarily Titanium Backup so you can FREEZE the app.
If you want to have a quick free fix, go under accounts, and turn off sync for those apps. Saves battery life like you wouldn't believe.
There's also an app called "LTE Switch" that brings you to the LTE Menu so you can switch to CDMA (Also a HUGE battery saver)
Good luck!
I am rooted and running UNL3ASH3D V2.0. And yes I understand it's the syncing that kills the battery. I've turned off syncing on these apps but they're still loading which makes me think they are still using at least some battery. None of these programs (like Facebook) are listed in Accounts.
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I am rooted and running UNL3ASH3D V2.0. And yes I understand it's the syncing that kills the battery. I've turned off syncing on these apps but they're still loading which makes me think they are still using at least some battery. None of these programs (like Facebook) are listed in Accounts.
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None are showing under Accounts? Hmm, thats odd. Usually, when you first get your phone, it asks to set these up. What all apps start up upon reboot? And you are NOT rooted, correct? I'll do some research
I'm not using the Social Networking app. Standalone versions of Facebook, Hoot Suite, etc.
What I'm using is a program that is a part of my file explorer, ES Task Manager. Instead of KILLING the apps, I can force them at startup to not run. So I stopped Gun Bros and Contract Killer from running at startup because they had these annoying notifications they would send me about buying in-game stuff and really didn't need to be run at all. And I couldn't find a way to turn them off lol, so this works out well for me. If you don't want something running at startup, you can do it this way, and it could potentially help battery life because it would only run when you tell it to. And you need root access to do this.
Great suggestion
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Look for program called "Startup Manager" in market - works great!
hello...i used a auto start manager, works great..but i also want that when i close facebook from recent app that it kills the process...in rom tools task manager i see that facebook is a hidden app (like whatsapp) so the built-in task manager doesn't kill it when i close the app..any ideas how to make the facebook app "visible" so that the task manager auto kills it like other apps and games?
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Don't use task killers/managers. It's like shutting your computer off repeatedly without shutting it down properly and has the ability to screw **** up.
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People say that but whenever I haven't used one, I can notice the difference in performance. My bionic runs better with ATK.
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[Q] how to freeze the wifi sharing?

Hi there
There alot of roms like RoCKeT RoM for example couse alot of battary drain because this rom have alot of futures and performence but i,m sick of my battary
Any help on how to freeze the wifi
Pleeeeeezzzzzzzzzza
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I am not sure you need to freeze it. I had a rooted Arc before, and used Android Assistant to stop apps like this starting up. The real benefit of it is you can block all the listeners' every app and service has. The listeners are what makes it pop back up again when you have killed it (like WiFi sharing does, and &*^% Social Hub & Buddies!).
Used with the start up kill as well, you have a clean fast start, more RAM, and more battery. The price is zilch too, although I recommend buying it just to support it. What's not to like?
Edit: It is autorun that stopped things loading, and listening to events. Android Asst just prevents loading on boot.
Install Titanium Backup or AntTek App Manager and freeze it/them. I've done it myself.
And how to do it with antek application manager
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1. You must be rooted of course
2. Open the app and hit the "Apps" tab
3. Search for "Wi-Fi Sharing Manager" and "Wi-Fi Sharing"
4. Tap on it/them and choose "Freeze"
5. Done!
Thank you very much
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Is this the only way to get rid of this? I think this is also the case for my bad battery performance as well. So, no way to stop it or kill it without 3rd party software?
Nope, it's a system process, so you'll need root to freeze/delete or do anything about it. If you kill it manually using a task manager the process with start again within seconds.
How long should it take? I'm using Titanium Backup-Pro, been sitting on "freezing Wi-Fi Sharing manager 1.0" for over 5 minutes.
Sorry noob questions, but...
What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?
straycat said:
Sorry noob questions, but...
What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?
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When you freeze an app with Titanium (or some other system app manager), the system doesn't see it anymore. It's still there, but out of action until you defrost it.
It's a useful feature to experiment with temp shutting down of system apps - if you see that something is wrong, you defrost it, and everything's fine.
If you uninstall it, OTOH, if something bad happens, you're stuck.
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Sorry noob questions, but...
What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?
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If you mean "why freeze those particular apps?", then the answer is that if they are not used, they are just wasting battery and RAM by running. This is true of a large number of built-in apps that Samsung, and indeed carriers, put on your phone for you.
These particular ones serve no purpose for 90% of users [sorry, needed for Kies air, disregard], so are best stopped. Even if you do use them, they are best prevented from starting up until you want to use them.
freezing wifi sharing and wifi manager will cause kies air not working. unless you never used kies air and planning to freeze it too then i think it should be ok
I want to ask WHAT THE HELL IS THAT WIFI SHARING APP?! How can it be so badly done... I mean it's killing battery as once launched it never stops. I just can't get it...
And that's why we freeze/remove it If you don't use Kies, then get it over with and kill it (the permanent way)
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Fact is, after i froze them (all social hub) wifi sharing came and freezing it didn't change anything, it was still running from boot!
Freeze both wifi sharing and wifi sharing manager.
It will not come back after boot. Tested on 2 S2s and a Note.
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I use Autorun manager to disable all the 'listeners' that these apps have (one is for boot). This is in many ways better because I can still use them by actually running them, but they do not start by themselves.

possible RAM help

Hey guys, I've come across a problem I've never had before. Recently I've had errors popping up of low memory and a lot of FC's of Facebook, messaging, browser, pretty much everything. I'll look for apps in the play store or browse games and can only scroll down about 2 inches before I hit the bottom. I've used various cleanup apps and still low on ram. Been running aokp jellybean build 5 for months without problems. Any suggestions?
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what is actually running after you boot phone? settings, apps, running tab will show.
have you tried booting into recovery and wiping both dalvik and cache?
other suggestion would be to deny startup or else freeze various apps to see if that helps.
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Perhaps a little update wouldn't hurt, there's AOKP JB milestone now. Little backup, clear/wipe and flash it.
But like laughingT mentioned, chances are that you have a app draining your RAM.
Well I updates to milestone 1 originally but when I did the lock screen theme never changed when I changed themes as well as other things (keyboards etc) so I went back to build 5.
After rebooting my phone and seeing what apps are running after starting up and its 3 Google maps, Google, voxer, gmail, OMC widget, Facebook, play music and stuff like that before I've even opened anything
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Rabidaries said:
Well I updates to milestone 1 originally but when I did the lock screen theme never changed when I changed themes as well as other things (keyboards etc) so I went back to build 5.
After rebooting my phone and seeing what apps are running after starting up and its 3 Google maps, Google, voxer, gmail, OMC widget, Facebook, play music and stuff like that before I've even opened anything
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Maps can be stopped (make sure GPS isn't on). I heard OMC Widget caused a lot of battery drain but might've been updated since then. And Voxer, you can stop it and only start it when you need it.
you could try System Tuner, available on google play.
the startups button, gives a list of all apps, system and user, has ability to selectively disable apps at startup.
I use it to prevent Google maps and many others from loading at boot. don't go overboard, say by disabling keyboard or settings, obviously.
I think OMC widget has been updated, but batt use may vary with which widget you select and how frequently you set it to update.
I'm using OMC with the clock weather batt bubble thingy widget, and from what I can see, it suspends updating when screen is off.
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