When I first got the phone earlier this week, I could plug it into the charger in the wall just fine with no issues, it would just charge. Now suddenly it started telling me USB connected and goes to the MTP screen and of course locks up the phone.
I can of course bypass this by switching the phone to mass storage mode, but since I have Kies and use it occasionally, it would be nice to not have to switch that setting each time depending on my charging/syncing situation.
Why would it have not locked it up with the MTP screen originally when charging from the wall but now it does? The results are the same whether its plugged into the wall or the USB port on the computer. I have two Captivates bought brand new on a family plan, both do this now with any combination of chargers and USB cables, wall USB port, or car charger. Neither one has a common application installed since the other is my girlfriends who hasnt done much to it yet, so Im blaming the phone itself for now...
~T.J.
Interesting. I just checked with my BB charger and they dont do it using that charger, but they do it as soon as I connect the stock charger again.
Im wondering if its a voltage sensing circuit thats tripping due to the different voltages which should be applied - either wall charger or USB port. Maybe for some reason my wall chargers arent putting out enough voltage and its thinking its a USB port, but the BB charger is putting the right amount of voltage out?
Am I on base as to how it differentiates between wall or USB port? The number of pins obviously doesnt matter as all the cables have all the pins in them, unlike some charger cables which only have the power and ground. The only thing I can think of is that it uses the amount of voltage/current to tell the difference and create its reaction.
~T.J.
Sounds like a problem with the stock charger, maybe usb cable alignment. My iphone wall adapter does this with the samsung cable but the samsung wall adapter doesn't, same with my car charger from att. Also I have a $5 walmart car charger that has a cable that splits into both a mini usb and a micro usb that isn't a real usb cable, it's charge only. That cable has no problem on any wall or car adapter. I believe the phone detects if its connected by checking voltage on a data pin (just a guess really) so if a nonstock charger is used it assumes that it is a computer. But it may also be a data signal that is given off by the charger.
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did you try a new charger and if so, did it work? I've had my captivate since Thursday and on Thursday it charged and everything fine, but then yesterday,
a) no computer I connect it to while recognize it, no matter what I have it set too and have latest drivers installed
b) if I charge it, after I unplug it, it locks up to black screen and I have to remove the battery to get it to work
c) I also have an in-dash touchscreen monitor in my car that has a usb port because it works with an ipod. I plugged the usb into to use it as a car charger, unplugged it, same thing
d) it did say usb connected after it was unplugged, but I switched from mass storage to ask on connection and it went away
so is an actual wall charger the solution?
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and now I unplug it, and if it locks, it will not unlock, just black screen
I have to take out the battery and then only way to get it to turn back on, is to plug it back in the wall
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^^^Ouch that's not right, if you can't figure it out you may need to re-flash or just bring it back under warranty, or insurance
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There is a very nice cable out there called a CSquid. They make one for the Streak.
I took an external battery pack which has 2 USB charging ports and plugs straight into the wall on my trip to Vegas. It worked nicely when I tested it at the house prior to the trip. I used it with my Streak on the plane while the wife and I watched a movie. It came in damn handy charging both the wifes phone and mine at the sametime while drinkin way to much playin video poker at the bar.
Then I let the battery on my tablet die. I mean completely discharged dead. So I just plugged it in to the battery backup, plugged the backup into the wall outlet and NOTHING. No charge indicator, no lights on the softkeys, nothing. Tested the USB port with my phone, all was good.
So I ended up buying a USB wall/Vehicle charger at the gift shop of Harrah's for twice what it was worth. Plugged in and the Streak started charging, same stock cable I used with the battery backup charger. After that I was able to use my Streak with the battery backup on the plane ride back home with no problems.
Which lead me to the CSquid cable. It's designed to function off of low powered USB ports. Some device out there, ours included, the Galaxy Tab and the iPads as well, will not charge from a depleted battery state off of some USB ports. This includes PC's if they enter into a low power state. Some ports on laptops for example, my HP has 2 ports that are fully powerd and 2 that are not. A keyboard or a mouse works fine, but try a 3G modem and it detects it, but won't function. Flip the same modem to a port on the other side and it works like magic. What I'm saying is this problem is device specific.
So I recreated the scenario and tested same.
I ran a movie on my Streak until it shut itself off. I tried powering up and it wouldn't go. I plugged my battery backup into the wall, grabbed the stock Streak cable and cabled them up. No charge indicator on the Streak. The battery was dead, dead. Reconnected it twice and the same result.
I then repeated the process with the CSquid cable. I immediately recieved a charge light. This was a good sign. I tried to power it up and it wouldn't go. So I went out to the garage and had a smoke. Came back in about 10 mins later, hit the power button and the Streak booted up. All was right with the world.
If you're in the market for another cable you want this one.
I ordered the cable off Amazon for $20 and some change for delivery. It showed up USPS in 3 days.
This is their site: agreenc.com
Oddly they don't list the Streak on their site, at least yet. But this cable does exist for the Streak.
Like I said I got mine off Amazon. Just search them for Dell Streak CSquid and it'll pop right up
Dear elodahl,
I'm not sure whether I understood you totally correct but you seem to have the problem when you try to charge your streak from you battery backup when this last one is plugged into the wall, am I correct? Was the battery backup discharged and hence you plugged it into the wall? If so, it could be possible that the energy taken from the wall is completely dedicated to charge the battery of your backup device and it is not drained outside to charge the streak. This could explain why after the cigarette the streak started to charge: the internal battery of the backup thing was charged enough to start draining energy to the streak.
Could be this correct?
On the other hand, do you know if this cable has the "on the go" pin enabled? I mean, using a female-female usb adaptor, have you ever tried to plug an external usb device or keyboard to the streak through it? At the moment and to my knowledge, non of the existing cables for the streak can do something like that, one has to open the cable and soldier together a couple of pins to make this possible.
Many thanks
I haven't tried using the cable with a gender bender and use it as a pass though. I don't have a need so I never screwed with it.
This isn't a problem to be solved. This is a solution to a problem that exists.
The battery backup was fully charged. The Streak was fully discharged, which is a big part of it. If you end up with the Streak fully discharged you can't get it to power up off of say a battery backup or (some/most) PC USB ports. You won't even get the red LED charging indicator to light. Again this is with a fully discharged battery on the Streak.
Basiclly what the cable does when you flip the switch on it from it's standard data cable position over to the power postion is send voltage down an additional pin. Voltage on this pin makes your USB power source appear as a AC power source. This allows the system to boot, and charge, even with the same exact USB power source that did not work prior to you sliding the switch on the cable.
This is similar to what Motorola did a few years ago with their USB charges. I carried Motorola Q for a couple years which is were I ran into the issue. Yes The device had a mini-USB connection. Yes it could charge off of that connection. But it could only charge if you used Motorola's mini-USB charger. Only a select few 3rd party mini-usb chargers would work, most wouldn't. On the other hand if you could charge a Motorola off of a charger that charger would charge any other mini-usb device known to man.
I found the pinouts for Motorola's charges on some site which showed that they were using the "spare" pin. There is a open pin in the USB spec. which an OEM can use to do whatever they like.
You can charge a Streak off of any USB power source unless you completely discharge it. If you completely discharge it you need an AC power source, or something that looks like an AC power source to the Streak. Which is were this cable comes in.
I got the 16GB Touchpad few days ago and since i got the one with an american charger i cant charge it yet (till i get the traveler kit).
My actual problem is that it doesn't charge through the USB port too. I left it for like 24-30 hours charging through the USB port (with the cable that came with the touchpad) and when i try to turn it on, it shows me an icon of an empty battery.
Is my usb cable problematic or it just that the touchpad cant charge through the usb port from a PC?
ps: every time i plug the usb it get a message telling "to reliably charge please use the charger and cable that came with this device"
I have the same issue with a 32 GB one. I received it brand new, factory sealed today and it is going back to HP. I called HP, the cable is fine, works with my HTC phone, it's the USB port on the Touchpad, it's loose and losses connection. HP is sending a box with prepaid shipping label and doing a warranty repair.
I really love the Touchpad and I am a bit disappointed with receiving a new device with a loose USB port. HP has great support and I can't wait until I get it back.
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Unfortunately thats not an option for me (returning it to touchpad), since i bought it from Ebay (thats the only way possible for me to buy a touchpad from my country).
You had the same issue with the charger plugged in the usb cable as well?
What sort of power source do you use, if not the charger.
I've tried to use a computer, but it does not look like it's charging, but data transfer work.
I tried with an iphone charger, that sort of work. It complains about not getting enough power (iphone charger is 5,0V while the hp charger is 5,2V)
Bottom line. Use the original charger, just buy an us adapter. It works great.
There is another thread here sonewere discussing chargers for non US owners.
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Jon (aka nle) said:
What sort of power source do you use, if not the charger.
I've tried to use a computer, but it does not look like it's charging, but data transfer work.
I tried with an iphone charger, that sort of work. It complains about not getting enough power (iphone charger is 5,0V while the hp charger is 5,2V)
Bottom line. Use the original charger, just buy an us adapter. It works great.
There is another thread here sonewere discussing chargers for non US owners.
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Im trying to charge it through my PC using the original cable that was in the box (tried it in a USB 2.0 port) and im getting the 'try a reliable recharging source like the USB cable and the charger that came with your touchpad'.
I also tried charging it with a 5.0V 200mA phone charger but it didnt work either.
Shouldnt it charge even a bit with the cable? im trying to charge it for 2 days now
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Unfortunately thats not an option for me (returning it to touchpad), since i bought it from Ebay (thats the only way possible for me to buy a touchpad from my country).
You had the same issue with the charger plugged in the usb cable as well?
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Yes, tried the wall charger, then pc, a different usb cable, all had the same result. When I plugged in I could feel the USB port loose in the Touchpad itself, it had a bit of play and if I played gently on it, it would begin to charge or connect to the pc. When i let go, it disconnected from my pc and then gave me the charging error message. I purchased mine from an e bay store and it has a warranty for 1 year.
I would be happy to help you with yours, if you want to ship it to the US, it has a warranty from the factory. Pm me if you'd like help. I am certain that shipping to and.from US could be costly but I am willing to help.
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Mine will only will charge from official HP chargers. This is much like my old iPhone 3g before all the generic manufacturers caught up. I suspect that the voltage and amp requirements are tighter than the USB specification, so it will be a crap shoot if you use non HP chargers.
With that said, HP has 30% off all touchpad accessories right now. Combine it with the cupon SAVE15HP
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With that said, HP has 30% off all touchpad accessories right now. Combine it with the cupon SAVE15HP
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Ya unfortunatelly i could order anything since i dont live in the US/UK regions
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Ya unfortunatelly i could order anything since i dont live in the US/UK regions
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Don't worry over that, I can get what you need and ship it to you.
Also, in speaking to HP, any USB charger in the US works, they're considered universal.
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you cant charge the touchpad using a computers usb ports. it doesnt draw enough power. the voltage of the charger doesnt really matter, it needs at least 2 amps or it wont charge the touchpad. cell phone chargers usually only draw 1 amp or less and usb ports only .5 amps.
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you cant charge the touchpad using a computers usb ports. it doesnt draw enough power. the voltage of the charger doesnt really matter, it needs at least 2 amps or it wont charge the touchpad. cell phone chargers usually only draw 1 amp or less and usb ports only .5 amps.
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That is absolutely not the case.
I have only charged mine once with the AC-USB thing and I have been using it since I got it the first day of the sale. I use mine all day long and only charge it occasionally via USB to PC connection. I use the original cable from HP and another one from my Samsung Mythic (work and home).
The message that you get when you plug it in is misleading but normal on a stock TP. However there is a patch in PreWare that changes it to just default to charge and not bug you. Anyone who intends to use this thing at all with WebOS needs to get PreWare installed. In fact, some time spent at precentral.net would benefit any new owners. You will learn A LOT more about these little jewels. I spent a few hours reading stickies and interesting threads and learned a great deal.
If it is really plugged in (and you will know because your PC will tell you) and you get no charge, you have a problem. It should charge on or off while plugged in - mine does.
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That is absolutely not the case.
I have only charged mine once with the AC-USB thing and I have been using it since I got it the first day of the sale. I use mine all day long and only charge it occasionally via USB to PC connection. I use the original cable from HP and another one from my Samsung Mythic (work and home).
The message that you get when you plug it in is misleading but normal on a stock TP. However there is a patch in PreWare that changes it to just default to charge and not bug you. Anyone who intends to use this thing at all with WebOS needs to get PreWare installed. In fact, some time spent at precentral.net would benefit any new owners. You will learn A LOT more about these little jewels. I spent a few hours reading stickies and interesting threads and learned a great deal.
If it is really plugged in (and you will know because your PC will tell you) and you get no charge, you have a problem. It should charge on or off while plugged in - mine does.
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The problem is, its plugged, i get the warning but its not charging at all (while the touchpad is turned out cause its out of battery the past 2 days).
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The problem is, its plugged, i get the warning but its not charging at all (while the touchpad is turned out cause its out of battery the past 2 days).
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Now to be completely honest - the first charge I made out of the box was with the AC adapter and I left it in overnight like I had been told.
But since then I have never used the AC plug and I have let it get down to about 20% or so but no lower.
It very well may be that from a DEAD state, it requires the extra amps to jump start it, but as long as you have that initial charge it is covered by the lower amperage of the direct USB-to-PC connection. I'm guessing it came with a fair charge and you burned through it without ever plugging it in to the USB.
Bear in mind that not ALL USB ports on a PC are powered the same either. Older USB 1.0 and 1.1 are crap for power. Front or top-mount ones also may not have as much juice as the ones in the back directly off the motherboard. Look at portable hard drives, some come with a double-header cable to use two low-powered ports. I know my top-mount ones will not power my 1TB 2.5-inch drive, but the ones in the back do.
However, I am really surprised you can't pick up a standard plug in USB adapter for your country for a few dollars (equivalent) for wall. Jeez they sell them at the dollar stores here now. I don't know if a car adapter would output enough to do it but that is another idea. If you can get one, you should be able to bring it back easily enough. The 2 amp adapter does charge a lot faster.
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LOL, I am really in a rare mood as this question has bugged me a little. So I decided to find some straight poop. Here is the best description I have seen anywhere.
http://www.maxim-ic.com/app-notes/index.mvp/id/3241
If you don't want to read it, the gist (as I understand it) is:
At 5V, the USB ports in a PC have to be able to source (provide) at least 500 mA (.5 AMP). However, depending on how your motherboard is provisioned (MOSFETs and diodes) that is limited/controlled.
The spec though, does allow as much as 5A to be provided. In fact, 2A is not uncommon if the other ports are not loaded.
So you could try unplugging all your other USB stuff or try another computer's USB ports.
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Im trying to charge it through my PC using the original cable that was in the box (tried it in a USB 2.0 port) and im getting the 'try a reliable recharging source like the USB cable and the charger that came with your touchpad'.
I also tried charging it with a 5.0V 200mA phone charger but it didnt work either.
Shouldnt it charge even a bit with the cable? im trying to charge it for 2 days now
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Given that the HP charger has a 2A output, odds are that anything much below around 500mA isn't going to charge the device, or at least not at a rate that'll offset the drain while it's running.
The USB ports on laptops often won't supply enough current, particularly if there's other devices on the same bus. If you plug it into a powered USB hub then you should be in business as they should supply more like around 1A generally.
My Touchpad charges from my laptop USB port, however it is slow. I am getting about 8 - 10% charge per hour. The screen needs to be off though, otherwise there is no noticable charging happening.
Mine is not charging with USB laptop at all. Need to use wall charger
I have XRON VB2.8 on my two touchpads and both show battery charging symbol when they are connected to computer via USB and yes the they charge very slow.
FYI, can't remember if WebOS / Govnah tells you what the current amps being used is, but if you are on Android tools like Elixir 2 tell you how many amps you are either discharging (-) or charging (+). So depending on what you are using (wifi, bluetooth, # of widgets, running applications, screen brightness, overclocking, underclocking, etc.) YMMV on whether or not you can charge via usb connected to your computer.
So if you are discharging at a rate of -750 mA connecting to a usb port on your computer will still have you discharging at a rate of -250:
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[COLOR="Red"]-750 mA[/COLOR] + 500 mA = [COLOR="Red"]-250 mA[/COLOR]
mine charges in the usb port, but only if I turn off the screen or turn off the touchpad completely. my ports only provide 500mA, and with the screen off, the touchpad draws about 50mA, so it can charge at about 450mA. With the screen on, it draws about 760mA, so even when it's plugged in the USB, it is discharging at a rate of about (760-500=260mA).
after years of not issue, yesterday my note stop charging in the outlet chargers, I have several all do not charge it but have no issues charge my wifes phone.
but I can charge the phone with the same orig cable when the usb is my computer and not the outlet.
any clues why my phone will charge in my computer with same cable but not in orig outlet plug. please tell me I do have to have my $2K high end gaming desktop on just to charge my phone in its usb slot.
I cleaned everything, it is a new battery
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any help is apprecaited
I guess problem is in your adapter..try different adapter and see if it helps
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I have tried 4 different adapter/cords combos ( just in my house) none of them charge my phone in an outlet - all work with my wife's smaller samsung in output. so weirdly only a direct usb with the oem cord to computer works ( in both my desk and laptop). so weird. so annoying.
You have to buy a new charging port, and the board that comes with it. This is a link to the part you need. If you search "n7000 charging port flex ribbon" you should be able to find other places that have it. http://www.etradesupply.com/oem-samsung-galaxy-note-gt-n7000-charging-port-flex-cable-ribbon.html
So, I have the official Sony DK48 dock for my Z3 Compact (no case). The phone will recognize that it is connected to the dock by giving the notification sound, but the battery will not charge while on it. I've tried wiggling it all sorts of different ways, and tried at least 3 different USB cables, but still no dice.
Is anyone else having this issue?
Have you used original cable? I had this problem with some poor quality cables, they were too thin inside for the designed current
plug it in the mains...
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plug it in the mains...
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With 'mains' you can mean so many things.
I guess you mean plug the cable in an electrical outlet, rather then in a computer. I believe that I had the same issue. (Worked fine in an outlet)
The DK48 will only charge the phone when power comes from the mains. It does not charge the phone when connected to a USB port of a PC or laptop.
Use the original charger and the original cable that came with your phone and the Z3/Z3C should charge just fine in the DK48; that's at least what my does.
Yes all of my attempts occurred while plugging the dock into the AC adapter that came with the phone.
I guess then it seems like its a faulty DK48...
It should work with the original cable, adapter and electric outlet (not a PC).
Why wouldn't the DK48 charge through PC? How does it know? Amperes?
The input from the computer is too low even when you plug the USB to 3.0 port... Unfortunately you MUST use wall charger for the DK48 to be working.
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Why wouldn't the DK48 charge through PC? How does it know? Amperes?
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I am a bit late in this thread, but I will post it anyway in case somebody has the same problem. Dk48 won't charge phone while connected to PC, because it checks if data lanes in Micro USB port are used. If they are, charging is stopped. If someone wants to charge phone using dock connected to PC (I for example connect it to my active USB hub, which is connected to my PC) it is necessary to use Micro USB cable, which doesn't use data lanes, just charging ones.
I hope it will help somebody.