Okay Im trying to go into this amazing world of roms and kernals and boots and flashboots I started this trip just because I hear you can OVER CLOCK CPU
I just started when I got my droid 3 on the 14th, so far Ive gotten the hang of
ROOT with pete one click
root manager to check things out or rename *.apk to *.bak
titanium backup, to make back ups? and freeze (same as above?)
script manager to run a remove bloat (same as above??)
do these 3 really do things all that different?
now im getting deeping into the rabbits hole.
bootstrap, I made my first NANDroid which is a NAND or back up I think, for the droid... how clever
Rom manager to manage roms i guess, i think this was the one that wouldnt be ready until the boot loader was unlocked right?
If the boot loader is locked then what is
fast/flashboot for??? same as boot strap or different?
CYANOGEN or CM7??? no idea what this is... a ROM???
last but not least do any of these have to do with changing the KERNAL so I can finally overclock on setcpu???
nandroid which is a complete backup of the internal flash memory.
rom manager is use to manage roms, duh, this will be useful once we get the ability to flash roms through CWM
ROMs may or may not come with a kernel, we can't flash kernels because they require an unlocked bootloader because they are loaded by the bootloader as part of the initial booting
fastboot is part of the phones bootloader (i assume or is on a similar level), it allows basic interaction with the phones hardware and software
cyanogen or CM7 is a custom rom, often with a kernel included but doesn't need a custom one per-say
im new here too and this is what i have gathered so far correct me if im wrong.
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CYANOGEN or CM7??? no idea what this is... a ROM???
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http://www.cyanogenmod.com/
You started off with a bad first device for android development since it's locked down. However, I'm amazed at the progress being made already. We will not be able to flash custom kernals, because we are locked out of the bootloader. We will be able to over clock in the long run though, just give it time.
Rom Manager is used to browse, select and flash custom roms using an easy to use app. The problem is that we can't boot to recovery directly, we have to go though the reboot and BP Tools method so all you can really use Rom Manager for is to download roms to your phone which you can then manually flash. It will be empty right now because we have no roms.
Titanium Backup's primary purpose is to back up apps with DATA. So all your game saves, settings, things like that can be easily restored after you flash to a new ROM.
Fastboot files are used to recover different partitions on your phone should you brick it.
The term 'bootstrap' is bothering me a bit. Can somebody clarify it?
As I understood it bootstrap was a method of loading a custom recovery, but not the same method as the 2nd init that we are using here. I was under the impression that bootstraps were a bit lower, requiring an unlocked bootloader.
In any case the program that allows you to create backups and flash custom roms is called a 'Recovery' or 'Custom Recovery'. The one you have on the phone right now is ClockWorkMod.
calash said:
The term 'bootstrap' is bothering me a bit. Can somebody clarify it?
As I understood it bootstrap was a method of loading a custom recovery, but not the same method as the 2nd init that we are using here. I was under the impression that bootstraps were a bit lower, requiring an unlocked bootloader.
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This was written for DX/D2 but I imagine it's the same basic process.
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Bootstrapper works by doing the following.
When you hit the "Bootstrap Recovery" button the app renames logwrapper to logwrapper.bin, adds a file called Hijack and symlinks a new logwrapper file to Hijack. (For you windows people, a symlink is like a shortcut...)
At boot, init.rc calls for logwrapper, which now calls Hijack (by way of symbolic link) which is how we can load into Clockwork recovery.
When Hijack runs, it checks for a file called /data/.recovery_mode if it finds that file, it unmounts /system and boots into Clockwork recovery, if it doesn't find that file, it creates it and calls logwrapper.bin (the factory logwrapper file) and boots normally.
When the OS is completely booted, Droid 2 Bootstrapper (the app) is loaded and deletes the file /data/.recovery_mode. Since the boot was successful, it assumes you don't want to boot into recovery next time.
If on the other hand, the OS doesn't boot normally, and Droid 2 Boostrapper never loads and therefore never removes /data/.recovery_mode, it should let you into Clockwork on your next boot.
Now, when you open the Bootstrap app and hit the "reboot recovery" button, it manually adds the /data/.recovery_mode file and then begins the reboot process. Upon reboot, Hijack finds the file /data/.recovery_mode, and boots into Clockwork.
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I am almost too chicken to post because reading all the developer threads I feel like such a noob.
I recently rooted my Nexus One, thanks to a developer that created a painless one button rooting app. The problem is after downloading and installing many apps that require superuser access I am finding out that I am limited in what I can do without unlocking the bootloader.
I want to find a theme that replaces the standard white bar "which will cause screen burn" with a black bar.
I backed up all my apps, "Titanium Back Up"
I backed up my ROM??? "Maybe not" using a program call Rom Backup. "I have not figure out how to to nandroid backup "not sure the right name"
I googled found many procedures on unlocking the bootloader but I can not get it work.
Download ADK
Found a place that has Fastboot download it
I even found out I need to copy file from ADK folder to the Fastboot folder
Held down the power button trackball got the correct screen "even though my old eyes have a hard time reading the little character"
connected my phone
Ran the batch file
It returns saying wait for device.
The device is connected, in the right mode, my device manage says the is an Android device connected.......
But no matter what I do I can not get the screen warning me that to unlock my bootloader I void my warranty.
I found here some theme labled that hey work Nexus One 2.2 and I want to try them but Metamprgh will not load new themes on a radio that has a locked bootloader.
I am not worried about losing my warranty I live in Canada if I ever need warranty work it be a hassle anyway.
I thought unlock the bootloader.
When the phone powers up login my Google Account, reload Titanium Back up to restore my my phone.
Back up the Rom once more using Rom Backup if I want to recover my stock Rom
Run Metamorph and play with the themes
But I can not unlock the bootloader ....... "waiting for device"
How can I unlock the Bootloader, I there a more current method?
What can I be doing wrong I see a device in my Device Manager?
Will my method for restoring my phone work, never done a full phone wipe?
FYI this forum is scary there should but a developer and a Noob section.
You don't need to unlock your bootloader. My bootloader is locked and I'm rooted. It seems like you're missing superuser.apk. You need that too allow all of the programs like ROM manager and Titanium Backup root permissions. I'm not sure how the one click app works but I know that it probably should have installed the superuser application to allow those apps root access. Check and see if its in your application draw. You might want to try "one click rooting again" because it seems like it didn't work.
Side note: Titanium Backup does not back up your ROM. It just backs up apps and their data stored on your phone so it can be restored when you flash a new ROM. The way you back up your ROM is through the android custom recovery using the nandroid feature.
Thanks Magma,
Yes Superuser is installed.
A program wants superuser access I can grant it.
Metamorph does do several checks and it needs superuser access.
It is my understanding superuser access gives apps access to system hardware but if you want to use Metamorph to change the standard Android Shell that is going to modify your ROM and you will need and unlocked bootloader.
Here is what happens when I run Metamorph it finds the zipped files on my SD card, I select a file, it exacts the package, I say update al .... PLEASE WAIT for 20 or 30 minutes, it may then tell me to reboot but nothing happens my theme is still stock Android 2.2
This is where you can find out about and download the One Click Root App, it is in this section themes and apps.
It roots you device but leaves the bootloader alone
I know titanium backup just restores all your applications and data. The way I understand it if I ever need to do a master reset, I login Google, download Titanimum back up use it to restore every thing else. Yes which every ROM I was running will not be touched.
I am pretty sure I need to unlock the Bootloader.
But to unlock my Bootloader I just as I said get please wait I tried everything.
Alright man, you need the Android sdk for your OS so go to the android site and get the SDK, then install drivers for phone, and you NEED a custom recovery to do a NANDROID of the ROM, from what i understand your like me
have everything stock but with root privileges! and i from what i know as of now, unlockBoot loader gives you the option to do fastboot, if you want to continue messing around with stuff i highly suggest you flash custom recovery like Amon-Ra or even clockwork(from market) then go to Nandroid back up, then flash a custom rom like Enomther's Rom that is nice and stock clean stable, but still able to do themes
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Alright man, you need the Android sdk for your OS so go to the android site and get the SDK, then install drivers for phone, and you NEED a custom recovery to do a NANDROID of the ROM, from what i understand your like me
have everything stock but with root privileges! and i from what i know as of now, unlockBoot loader gives you the option to do fastboot, if you want to continue messing around with stuff i highly suggest you flash custom recovery like Amon-Ra or even clockwork(from market) then go to Nandroid back up, then flash a custom rom like Enomther's Rom that is nice and stock clean stable, but still able to do themes
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Wow lot to digest. I do have and install Android SDK the instructions in the tutorial I googled said I needed it, The Fastboot command needed files in the ADK directory.
The thing is since my command window did not see a device,
With your Nexus One in bootloader mode and connected to your computer via USB cable, go back to the command prompt and type “fastboot-windows oem unlock”.
Would even be able to flash anything?
At the end of the day I am very happy with Android 2.2 and I do not think I want custom roms at least for now. All I want is to get Metamorph to work so I can change how it looks.
try to type fastboot oem unlock
You do not need to unlock.
You used the one click root.
Now download Rom Manager and flash the Clockwork Recovery.
There, now you suddenly have a custom recovery, can flash custom roms, and flash custom themes on top of the roms.
And you still have a locked bootloader.
You don't even need to manually go into the recovery to flash your roms and themes, Rom Manager will do it for you. Chose the rom or update.zip file for the theme and it will automatically reboot and flash it for you.
From clockwork you can also make a backup of your phone. Through Rom Manager choose to back it up, and it will restart and do a nandroid backup for you automatically.
try to type fastboot oem unlock (Done but it just responds wait for device)
Now download Rom Manager Done and it seemed to back up my OEM Rom no problem and flash the Clockwork Recovery. Question is this over writing existing Nexus One ROM because as I said since really have nothing against OEM ROM I would like to keep it?
There, now you suddenly have a custom recovery, can flash custom roms, and flash custom themes on top of the roms. At this point my phone would be powered up with the Clockwork Recovery ROM? I want to use Metamorph to flash themes on top of the Nexus One ROM
And you still have a locked bootloader.Well if Clock Recovery does the job and at the end of the day I get OEM 2.2 ROM which I can theme with Metamorph I am ok never unlocking the Bootloader.
You don't even need to manually go into the recovery to flash your roms and themes, Rom Manager will do it for you. Chose the rom or update.zip file for the theme and it will automatically reboot and flash it for you.
Yes Understood I have the program
From clockwork you can also make a backup of your phone. Through Rom Manager choose to back it up, and it will restart and do a nandroid backup for you automatically. But as the questions above do I really what to keep the Clockwork Recovery ROM. I do not know what the Clockwork recovery ROM does but I do just want to theme my Nexus One OEM ROM.
So let me see if I got the steps straight.
Head to the download section find the Clockwork recovery ROM.
Copy it to my SD Card.
Open ROM Manager and install it.
Reboot my Nexus One, the ROM manager forces the Reboot and I will be running my phone with Special ROM, old version of Android?
Then do I load my back my OEM ROM and modify it with Metamorph?
or is what loading the Clockwork ROM actually do is it is not a full ROM when I load it with ROM Manager what it does is add to my existing OEM ROM. This process will then let me modify the ROM with themes. When I reboot after loading the Clockwork ROM I will find the phone looks and behaves the same as always "running Android 2.2" but the Clockwork ROM will add files and when I use Metamorph it will work......
............. Man I am such a noob, but i guess at one time we were all noobs.
You are still mixed up:
Clockwork is not a rom. It is just replaces the stock recovery.
To install the Clockwork Recovery you:
1. Download Rom Manager
2. Press the first item "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery"
Done, nothing has changed, except your recovery partition is now different, which allows the flashing of other stuff.
Anything you do from now on could wipe your curent install, so make sure things are backed up in case you want to go back.
Now from Rom Manager you can flash any other rom or update.zip
The biggest issue you might face is that I don't think you can theme the stock froyo rom. You will need a special de-odexed rom. So you would have to go to the development section and find a custom 'stock' rom. Then flash that one though Rom Manager.
Keep in mind, when you do all this, you will not get any OTA updates anymore either, unless you flash back to the real stock rom and the stock recovery. But most people don't care, since the custom roms will be updated eventually to the latest, if not before.
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You are still mixed up:
Clockwork is not a rom. It is just replaces the stock recovery.
To install the Clockwork Recovery you:
1. Download Rom Manager
2. Press the first item "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery"
Done, nothing has changed, except your recovery partition is now different, which allows the flashing of other stuff.
Anything you do from now on could wipe your curent install, so make sure things are backed up in case you want to go back.
Now from Rom Manager you can flash any other rom or update.zip
The biggest issue you might face is that I don't think you can theme the stock froyo rom. You will need a special de-odexed rom. So you would have to go to the development section and find a custom 'stock' rom. Then flash that one though Rom Manager.
Keep in mind, when you do all this, you will not get any OTA updates anymore either, unless you flash back to the real stock rom and the stock recovery. But most people don't care, since the custom roms will be updated eventually to the latest, if not before.
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I need to learn how to use the search better. If I had read this first I assume I could have updated the radio without unlocking the bootloader. arg.
Yes I did not understand, ROM Manager first entry is Clockwork Recovery.
You said I can install themes using ROM manager?
I click on "Install ROM from SD Card", I had a pretty scary moment not know what I am doing I tried it the phone reboot to an "exclamation mark and Android". I pulled the battery and it booted.
This make me wonder if yor find an unstable theme or ROM how can you use ROM manager to restore a backup?
Could the reason Metamorph did not work is having "Clockwork Recovery"?
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Yes I did not understand, ROM Manager first entry is Clockwork Recovery.
You said I can install themes using ROM manager?
I click on "Install ROM from SD Card", I had a pretty scary moment not know what I am doing I tried it the phone reboot to an "exclamation mark and Android". I pulled the battery and it booted.
This make me wonder if yor find an unstable theme or ROM how can you use ROM manager to restore a backup?
Could the reason Metamorph did not work is having "Clockwork Recovery"?
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Sorry, but I am going to have to recommend you do a lot more reading in the development section, the wiki, and all the sticky posts. Don't try anything until you understand how linux works, partitions, bootloaders, how Android roms work, even how a metamorph works.
Spend a few weeks or a month reading about everything, through the whole threads before trying to jump in. That's how I learned everything.
You seem intelligent enough to do everything, but what you lack is an actual understanding of what those things are, so you just need to spend a lot more time on it.
When you do fully understand everything, it will be a breeze and you will enjoy it a lot more. You will be less likely to completely screw your phone, and if you do you will know exactly how to recover.
I need to learn how to use the search better. If I had read this first I assume I could have updated the radio without unlocking the bootloader. arg.
You saying yes it is true I need to unlock bootloader?
Sorry, but I am going to have to recommend you do a lot more reading in the development section, the wiki, and all the sticky posts. Don't try anything until you understand how linux works, partitions, bootloaders, how Android roms work, even how a metamorph works.
You maybe right, maybe I should give up for now. Learn to do a backup and restore using nandroid. Just not sure how much time I am willing to invest just to gain the able to put themes on my phone.
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I need to learn how to use the search better. If I had read this first I assume I could have updated the radio without unlocking the bootloader. arg.
You saying yes it is true I need to unlock bootloader?
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Yeah, you shouldn't do anything yet, read up on stuff for fun until you know what is going on.
For instance, in what I quoted above, you understood the exact opposite of what he was saying.
He was upset that he didn't find out about this way to root before he unlocked. He didn't have to unlock and is now disappointed he did.
OP. What ROM are you currently running? Stock FRF91 or something else?
To my understanding you need a De-Odexed ROM to apply themes that modify the framework.
I created a Nandroid backup of the stock Nexus S Rom. This includes the latest OTA GRH78 that just got pushed out today 12/22/10. This is 100% stock.
Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?ontvvh8z9h9lb7a
WARNING: This will wipe everything on your phone
Requirements:
-Clockwork recovery or other custom recovery
-The nandroid backup from here http://www.mediafire.com/?ontvvh8z9h9lb7a
-Transfer cable, to transfer contents of downloaded file to phone's internal memory
Instructions:
1. Download nandroid file from link provided above
2. Extract the .zip file on your computer
3. Move the folder "2010-12-22.21.06.07" to the clockworkmod/backup/ directory of your phones internal storage
Note: if you have never used nandroid you wont have the directory clockworkmod/backup on your phones internal storage, so you will have to manually create those folders, then put the folder "2010-12-22.21.06.07" in the new folders you created
4. Now go into your clockwork recovery manager, you can do this by typing in "adb reboot recovery" if you have adb setup on your computer, and the phone is connected. Or while the phone is turned off hold the volume up+power to get into bootloader mode, then go down to "recovery" by using the volume up/volume down keys to scroll up or down, then press the power button to launch it, and this will launch the recovery manager
5. Once your in clockwork mod recovery select "backup and restore"
6. Then click "restore"
7. Now you should be able to choose and select "2010-12-22.21.06.07"
8. Clockwork will now restore this nandroid backup
9. Reboot system
Note: This version of android build "GRH78" will make sure you have the stock recovery manager everytime you reboot the phone. So after doing this, after you reboot you will no longer have clockwork mod.
Edit: According to xda member Luxferro the new update introduced /etc/install-recovery which may have not been in 2.3, but anyways, it runs this on bootup, and if the MD5 of the recovery doesn't match what is expected, it reflashes the stock recovery back over, so if you dont want the stock recovery to be flashed everytime you boot if your on clockwork or another non stock rom, just rename it to prevent it from running on boot. And for those of you who want to return your phone back to stock this nandroid will do that for you since it also flashes the stock recovery.
Video on how to unroot the nexus s and return to stock
http://theunlockr.com/2011/01/20/how-to-unroot-the-nexus-s/
Video via xda member dcogen
will this method rest the phone and erase phone info?
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will this method rest the phone and erase phone info?
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yes this will erase everything, this is meant for people who want to go back to stock.
I unlocked the bootloader and flashed clockword mod only. I didn't flash any custom roms. If I do this method, will it lock the bootloader and remove clockword mod?
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I unlocked the bootloader and flashed clockword mod only. I didn't flash any custom roms. If I do this method, will it lock the bootloader and remove clockword mod?
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No, this will not touch the bootloader, or the recovery. The phone bootloader will stay unlocked, and the recovery manager will stay in tact.
Hi there, your "stock" nandroid is screwed up.
I just tried it right now and TONS of apps are missing from the market with your nandroid.
PayPal, NYTimes, aFile, Fios Mobile Remote, TONS of stuff that I had are gone from the Market.
I pulled out my SIM card, and still all missing.
I restored my Nandroid of my current system, and they're all back in the Market.
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Hi there, your "stock" nandroid is screwed up.
I just tried it right now and TONS of apps are missing from the market with your nandroid.
PayPal, NYTimes, aFile, Fios Mobile Remote, TONS of stuff that I had are gone from the Market.
I pulled out my SIM card, and still all missing.
I restored my Nandroid of my current system, and they're all back in the Market.
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Hmm, very odd. Anyone else having this issue?
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No, this will not touch the bootloader, or the recovery. The phone bootloader will stay unlocked, and the recovery manager will stay in tact.
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so... for people that want to fully return to stock:
apply this update. go to fastboot mode and then do a fastboot oem lock. this will reset the phone and recovery partition to full stock.
you can check this by rebooting into recovery and now the recovery will be stock.
I don't think his nandroid file is messed up, there's a different market version its now 2.13 not 2.12 like on the previous build. I think that has something to do with it
Now I'm having a problem with everytime I reboot the phone I lose clockworkmod recovery an I got to reflash it with rom manager. I don't lose root tho but I lost it when I did his nandroid an had to reroot
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Hmm, very odd. Anyone else having this issue?
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Yup. I tried it, and I'm missing those apps as well.
Yes, me too. I lost many of the apps available in the market and the ability to go into recovery.
*Facepalm
These apps were missing from the Nexus S originally on day 1... Lol.
It's how Android market works. New builds don't get full market support. You need to wait for Google to update their system to allow the new build to get copy protected apps from the market.
Will this wipe my sd card?
I just checked and I don't have those apps either in market, and I'm on stock.
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Sigh! You're not supposed to have those apps.
It's not an issue with this nandroid, it's an issue with every single new version / update to android on any phone. You will always have missing apps until Google adds the build number to its servers.
Other than that, thanks a lot for posting this OP! Saved me a huge pain in the ass getting updated -_-
Yes, maybe the apps issue is an issue with the server not updating yet, but have you noticed any problem with the clockwork recovery not functioning after reboot?
My recovery reverted to 3e recovery after flashing this. Clockwork is gone. No problem though, I wanted clockwork gone.
Now how do we root without flashing clockwork ?
I will try to investigate the recovery issue. But some people wanted to go back to stock recovery, and were not able to with the stock recoveries floating around, so that's pretty odd that this nandroid takes you back to stock recovery.
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so... for people that want to fully return to stock:
apply this update. go to fastboot mode and then do a fastboot oem lock. this will reset the phone and recovery partition to full stock.
you can check this by rebooting into recovery and now the recovery will be stock.
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Really? That's interesting. Has anyone actually done this and confirmed it restores stock recovery? Easy fix for something that's been vexing quite a few people the last few days.
How long till the Market "fixes" itself and updates to 2.1.2 so the missing apps appear on the market?
For me, when I use Clockworkmod Recovery, whether it's preinstalled into a rom, or from the bootstrap, it always boots up while my ROM is fine. Whenever I'm stuck in a bootloop or stuck on the splash screen though, it NEVER works. BP-Tools does nothing for me. My only option at this point is to reinstall the OTA and root it all over again to return to my previous rom. How can I fix Clockworkmod?
This is an unfortunate side effect of the manner in which the D3 alternate recovery method (CWM Recovery) is implemented. On phones with unlocked boot loaders, the stock recovery is replaced by CWM recovery, but on this and other locked phones it is hijacking but not replacing the stock recovery. In more simple terms, if you crash your phones software the hijacked recovery (CWM) is crashed along with it. Before making any changes to a functional setup, you should always make a backup so that even if you crash the phone, you can SBF, reroot, reinstall CWM and then restore to exactly where you were before the change that crashed you.
There is, of course, an easier alternative to this. Thanks to Hashcode, there is another CWM based recovery for the D3 called Safestrap, you may have heard of it already. It essentially acts more like a virtual machine in that it does not overwrite the existing phone software, but allows you to ROM a secondary system where if at any time you crash that system, your original software is still intact. I HIGHLY recommend that you try it out, especially if you have had to frequently completely restore your phone.
So I've followed all the tutorials I could find. I've rooted, installed busybox (to make sure it really existed), installed safestrap (the official one from the blog) and can get into recovery just fine. I made sure I have the right phone version and I've never done any kind of bootstrap stuff on this phone before this.
However, when I switch to safe mode to try out some roms, it simply will not work. I've tried all three versions of Eclipse and one CM9 version, but once supposedly done flashing and told to reboot, it gets a blackscreen for a few seconds and restarts back to the dual-core pre-recovery screen. I've wiped, wiped, super wiped everything just like the various instructions tell me to, but nothing ever changes the blackscreen.
Switching it back to non-safe and rebooting works just fine, but I cannot get any custom safe-mode roms to boot up. Is there something else I should be doing that I missed?
I occasionally have issues with Safestrap when you choose to reboot, so I just power off and then power on - that always works. Initial boots do take some time, though more than a few minutes without animation is probably too much.
And, just to clarify, this is the Safestrap that I use: http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/downloads/safestrap/
But it's not that it takes time, it reboots the phone itself. It's not locking up like I've seen others say and requiring a battery pull. It just refuses to go on, instead more like a boot loop? But nothing appears to be going wrong and I can easily switch back to the base no-problem.
And yeah, that's the same one I'm using. Droid 3 v1.08 exactly from that site.
It's making me sad that I can't get this going
Edit: I went ahead and tried just powering it off, leaving it for a moment, and turning it back on. Still did the reboot thing
are you installing the rom and then wiping data?
if so try wiping data first then install rom then reboot..
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are you installing the rom and then wiping data?
if so try wiping data first then install rom then reboot..
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Yeah, tried both ways. Wipe data/factory and cache numerous times, install, nothing. Install then wipe, nothing. Wipe, install, wipe, nothing.
Is there an easy way to know for sure if it is even installing anything at all, like navigating to it using a root explorer?
Are you sure that the zip files you are loading are complete downloads? Generally you would receive error messages when installing if so, but you can try unzipping on your computer to see if they have errors. I always download ROM zips on my computer and transfer over (usually using the Dropbox app, but only because I don't want to bother with attaching, choosing USB storage mode, copying the files, unmounting the drives, choosing charge only.) But, if you are downloading the zips with your phone, try doing so instead with your computer, check the files sizes, and then transfer them over to the phone.
(Also, most/all/many of the CM9 zips require flashing a Google apps zip after flashing the ROM. That shouldn't prevent the phone from starting if you skip this step, but it will prevent you from having the market. Just FYI.)
I'd also try Maverick ROM to see if it has the same problem.
I've been running the stock 906 based ROM from Q9Nap here (the one marked Safestrap system), debloated by Pete Souza's script: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554916
doogald said:
Are you sure that the zip files you are loading are complete downloads? Generally you would receive error messages when installing if so, but you can try unzipping on your computer to see if they have errors. I always download ROM zips on my computer and transfer over (usually using the Dropbox app, but only because I don't want to bother with attaching, choosing USB storage mode, copying the files, unmounting the drives, choosing charge only.) But, if you are downloading the zips with your phone, try doing so instead with your computer, check the files sizes, and then transfer them over to the phone.
(Also, most/all/many of the CM9 zips require flashing a Google apps zip after flashing the ROM. That shouldn't prevent the phone from starting if you skip this step, but it will prevent you from having the market. Just FYI.)
I'd also try Maverick ROM to see if it has the same problem.
I've been running the stock 906 based ROM from Q9Nap here (the one marked Safestrap system), debloated by Pete Souza's script: "no linkies for me"
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I did as you suggested and tried unzipping the files on my computer (which was where I original downloaded them). They all unzipped fine without any errors, unfortunately. The chances of 4 full files being that way were slim, but I sorta hoped...
I'll try Maverick and the Safestrap stock after I get done downloading them.
Thanks everyone for trying to help.
Edit: Alright, I tried Maverick and it showed a prettier flash log, symlinked, all that, still reset itself after passing the recovery splash. Same with the 906 stock based. This time I also tried installing from internal and external SD just to test that.
I'll ask again, is there a specific folder I can get to just for my peace of mind where I can see where it is supposed to have installed these? Or is it in a area where a normal root explorer can't get to?
shinseitom said:
I did as you suggested and tried unzipping the files on my computer (which was where I original downloaded them). They all unzipped fine without any errors, unfortunately. The chances of 4 full files being that way were slim, but I sorta hoped...
I'll try Maverick and the Safestrap stock after I get done downloading them.
Thanks everyone for trying to help.
Edit: Alright, I tried Maverick and it showed a prettier flash log, symlinked, all that, still reset itself after passing the recovery splash. Same with the 906 stock based. This time I also tried installing from internal and external SD just to test that.
I'll ask again, is there a specific folder I can get to just for my peace of mind where I can see where it is supposed to have installed these? Or is it in a area where a normal root explorer can't get to?
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wait a sec..
you unzipped them?
the zip files are not ment to be unzipped..
download the zip to your phone
go into safestrap and choose install zip then choose the zip
oh wait...duh you were just checking to see if they worked lol
use root explorer and navigate to system folder open the build.prop and see if there is a mention of the rom your trying to install..ie..version=mavrick or eclipse
I'm not finding any references to other roms anywhere in it. I did a search by eye, then a search for "version", "cm", and "mav" and didn't come up with anything relevant. Is that bad?
There are two other things that you can try, though I am not sure that they will help:
1. From non-safe, stock, run Safestrap and uninstall recovery. Restart to see that it does not intercept before the boot screen, then go back in and reinstall recovery from safestrap. Restart the phone to see if it is working. Then restart to Safestrap and try toggling safe mode and see if your flashes work.
2. One other thing to try (not sure if this will help, but...) is to (prior to flashing a ROM) go into the Mounts menu and format /system. Maybe the old system isn't being cleared out by the ROMs you are trying to flash? Then go install the zip, do a wipe data/factory reset and see if that works.
Just wondering if there is a benefit to Safestrap or Bootstrap and why?
I went with Safestrap... Is it just a style thing or is one better?
Not trying to be a jerk, but I have been scanning this post.
Any chance you have overlooked the step of "Toggle Safe System" from the recovery menu?
At the top of the menu it should say "Safe System is: Enabled"
Droidlyen said:
Just wondering if there is a benefit to Safestrap or Bootstrap and why?
I went with Safestrap... Is it just a style thing or is one better?
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Safestrap is supposed to allow you to install a rom onto a safe "partition" of sorts, though that's not really what's going on. Anyway, it doesn't touch your stock rom so if something fails (like my flashing attempts) you're not in trouble.
SteveHebe said:
Not trying to be a jerk, but I have been scanning this post.
Any chance you have overlooked the step of "Toggle Safe System" from the recovery menu?
At the top of the menu it should say "Safe System is: Enabled"
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Nah, I switch it every time. I'm not quite messing up that bad
Anyway, I might have to resort to bootstrap to see if that works. If not, well, I guess I'll be stuck on stock. Nothing so far mentioned in the thread has worked for me. Kinda sucks, since I have an Infuse that loves being flashed with anything I want to put on it without problems, unlike a friend's Infuse. Maybe its phone karma.
i need help kind of a newb so i was wondering is there a difference between clockworkmod recovery and safestrap for the droid 3 because i cant get safestrap menu to open just gets stuck on a black screen, but i can get clockworkmod to work. i want to install the dark droid rom but i dont want to mess something up.
roms are built for either bootstrap or safestrap, there is a special file in the safestrap roms.
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SafeStrap allows you to run two ROMs and switch between the two in about 10-15 minutes depending upon how much data you have on the ROMs. Basically, it protects your stock ROM and boots a 2nd one from a faked secondary /system partition allowing you to experiment without the risk of bricking the phone since SafeStrap is installed to the original ROM and on the real /system partition.
If you flash a ROM that boot loops, you simply power down, power up, enter SafeStrap from its splash screen, and then flash a different ROM to the faked 2nd /system partition fixing the phone. I haven't managed to brick myself using SafeStrap, unlike my results with BootStrap.
joefuf said:
SafeStrap allows you to run two ROMs and switch between the two in about 10-15 minutes depending upon how much data you have on the ROMs. Basically, it protects your stock ROM and boots a 2nd one from a faked secondary /system partition allowing you to experiment without the risk of bricking the phone since SafeStrap is installed to the original ROM and on the real /system partition.
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This is a little outdated. Safestrap 3.05 allows you to switch between ROMs in about 15 seconds longer than it takes to restart the phone.