I am almost too chicken to post because reading all the developer threads I feel like such a noob.
I recently rooted my Nexus One, thanks to a developer that created a painless one button rooting app. The problem is after downloading and installing many apps that require superuser access I am finding out that I am limited in what I can do without unlocking the bootloader.
I want to find a theme that replaces the standard white bar "which will cause screen burn" with a black bar.
I backed up all my apps, "Titanium Back Up"
I backed up my ROM??? "Maybe not" using a program call Rom Backup. "I have not figure out how to to nandroid backup "not sure the right name"
I googled found many procedures on unlocking the bootloader but I can not get it work.
Download ADK
Found a place that has Fastboot download it
I even found out I need to copy file from ADK folder to the Fastboot folder
Held down the power button trackball got the correct screen "even though my old eyes have a hard time reading the little character"
connected my phone
Ran the batch file
It returns saying wait for device.
The device is connected, in the right mode, my device manage says the is an Android device connected.......
But no matter what I do I can not get the screen warning me that to unlock my bootloader I void my warranty.
I found here some theme labled that hey work Nexus One 2.2 and I want to try them but Metamprgh will not load new themes on a radio that has a locked bootloader.
I am not worried about losing my warranty I live in Canada if I ever need warranty work it be a hassle anyway.
I thought unlock the bootloader.
When the phone powers up login my Google Account, reload Titanium Back up to restore my my phone.
Back up the Rom once more using Rom Backup if I want to recover my stock Rom
Run Metamorph and play with the themes
But I can not unlock the bootloader ....... "waiting for device"
How can I unlock the Bootloader, I there a more current method?
What can I be doing wrong I see a device in my Device Manager?
Will my method for restoring my phone work, never done a full phone wipe?
FYI this forum is scary there should but a developer and a Noob section.
You don't need to unlock your bootloader. My bootloader is locked and I'm rooted. It seems like you're missing superuser.apk. You need that too allow all of the programs like ROM manager and Titanium Backup root permissions. I'm not sure how the one click app works but I know that it probably should have installed the superuser application to allow those apps root access. Check and see if its in your application draw. You might want to try "one click rooting again" because it seems like it didn't work.
Side note: Titanium Backup does not back up your ROM. It just backs up apps and their data stored on your phone so it can be restored when you flash a new ROM. The way you back up your ROM is through the android custom recovery using the nandroid feature.
Thanks Magma,
Yes Superuser is installed.
A program wants superuser access I can grant it.
Metamorph does do several checks and it needs superuser access.
It is my understanding superuser access gives apps access to system hardware but if you want to use Metamorph to change the standard Android Shell that is going to modify your ROM and you will need and unlocked bootloader.
Here is what happens when I run Metamorph it finds the zipped files on my SD card, I select a file, it exacts the package, I say update al .... PLEASE WAIT for 20 or 30 minutes, it may then tell me to reboot but nothing happens my theme is still stock Android 2.2
This is where you can find out about and download the One Click Root App, it is in this section themes and apps.
It roots you device but leaves the bootloader alone
I know titanium backup just restores all your applications and data. The way I understand it if I ever need to do a master reset, I login Google, download Titanimum back up use it to restore every thing else. Yes which every ROM I was running will not be touched.
I am pretty sure I need to unlock the Bootloader.
But to unlock my Bootloader I just as I said get please wait I tried everything.
Alright man, you need the Android sdk for your OS so go to the android site and get the SDK, then install drivers for phone, and you NEED a custom recovery to do a NANDROID of the ROM, from what i understand your like me
have everything stock but with root privileges! and i from what i know as of now, unlockBoot loader gives you the option to do fastboot, if you want to continue messing around with stuff i highly suggest you flash custom recovery like Amon-Ra or even clockwork(from market) then go to Nandroid back up, then flash a custom rom like Enomther's Rom that is nice and stock clean stable, but still able to do themes
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Alright man, you need the Android sdk for your OS so go to the android site and get the SDK, then install drivers for phone, and you NEED a custom recovery to do a NANDROID of the ROM, from what i understand your like me
have everything stock but with root privileges! and i from what i know as of now, unlockBoot loader gives you the option to do fastboot, if you want to continue messing around with stuff i highly suggest you flash custom recovery like Amon-Ra or even clockwork(from market) then go to Nandroid back up, then flash a custom rom like Enomther's Rom that is nice and stock clean stable, but still able to do themes
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Wow lot to digest. I do have and install Android SDK the instructions in the tutorial I googled said I needed it, The Fastboot command needed files in the ADK directory.
The thing is since my command window did not see a device,
With your Nexus One in bootloader mode and connected to your computer via USB cable, go back to the command prompt and type “fastboot-windows oem unlock”.
Would even be able to flash anything?
At the end of the day I am very happy with Android 2.2 and I do not think I want custom roms at least for now. All I want is to get Metamorph to work so I can change how it looks.
try to type fastboot oem unlock
You do not need to unlock.
You used the one click root.
Now download Rom Manager and flash the Clockwork Recovery.
There, now you suddenly have a custom recovery, can flash custom roms, and flash custom themes on top of the roms.
And you still have a locked bootloader.
You don't even need to manually go into the recovery to flash your roms and themes, Rom Manager will do it for you. Chose the rom or update.zip file for the theme and it will automatically reboot and flash it for you.
From clockwork you can also make a backup of your phone. Through Rom Manager choose to back it up, and it will restart and do a nandroid backup for you automatically.
try to type fastboot oem unlock (Done but it just responds wait for device)
Now download Rom Manager Done and it seemed to back up my OEM Rom no problem and flash the Clockwork Recovery. Question is this over writing existing Nexus One ROM because as I said since really have nothing against OEM ROM I would like to keep it?
There, now you suddenly have a custom recovery, can flash custom roms, and flash custom themes on top of the roms. At this point my phone would be powered up with the Clockwork Recovery ROM? I want to use Metamorph to flash themes on top of the Nexus One ROM
And you still have a locked bootloader.Well if Clock Recovery does the job and at the end of the day I get OEM 2.2 ROM which I can theme with Metamorph I am ok never unlocking the Bootloader.
You don't even need to manually go into the recovery to flash your roms and themes, Rom Manager will do it for you. Chose the rom or update.zip file for the theme and it will automatically reboot and flash it for you.
Yes Understood I have the program
From clockwork you can also make a backup of your phone. Through Rom Manager choose to back it up, and it will restart and do a nandroid backup for you automatically. But as the questions above do I really what to keep the Clockwork Recovery ROM. I do not know what the Clockwork recovery ROM does but I do just want to theme my Nexus One OEM ROM.
So let me see if I got the steps straight.
Head to the download section find the Clockwork recovery ROM.
Copy it to my SD Card.
Open ROM Manager and install it.
Reboot my Nexus One, the ROM manager forces the Reboot and I will be running my phone with Special ROM, old version of Android?
Then do I load my back my OEM ROM and modify it with Metamorph?
or is what loading the Clockwork ROM actually do is it is not a full ROM when I load it with ROM Manager what it does is add to my existing OEM ROM. This process will then let me modify the ROM with themes. When I reboot after loading the Clockwork ROM I will find the phone looks and behaves the same as always "running Android 2.2" but the Clockwork ROM will add files and when I use Metamorph it will work......
............. Man I am such a noob, but i guess at one time we were all noobs.
You are still mixed up:
Clockwork is not a rom. It is just replaces the stock recovery.
To install the Clockwork Recovery you:
1. Download Rom Manager
2. Press the first item "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery"
Done, nothing has changed, except your recovery partition is now different, which allows the flashing of other stuff.
Anything you do from now on could wipe your curent install, so make sure things are backed up in case you want to go back.
Now from Rom Manager you can flash any other rom or update.zip
The biggest issue you might face is that I don't think you can theme the stock froyo rom. You will need a special de-odexed rom. So you would have to go to the development section and find a custom 'stock' rom. Then flash that one though Rom Manager.
Keep in mind, when you do all this, you will not get any OTA updates anymore either, unless you flash back to the real stock rom and the stock recovery. But most people don't care, since the custom roms will be updated eventually to the latest, if not before.
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You are still mixed up:
Clockwork is not a rom. It is just replaces the stock recovery.
To install the Clockwork Recovery you:
1. Download Rom Manager
2. Press the first item "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery"
Done, nothing has changed, except your recovery partition is now different, which allows the flashing of other stuff.
Anything you do from now on could wipe your curent install, so make sure things are backed up in case you want to go back.
Now from Rom Manager you can flash any other rom or update.zip
The biggest issue you might face is that I don't think you can theme the stock froyo rom. You will need a special de-odexed rom. So you would have to go to the development section and find a custom 'stock' rom. Then flash that one though Rom Manager.
Keep in mind, when you do all this, you will not get any OTA updates anymore either, unless you flash back to the real stock rom and the stock recovery. But most people don't care, since the custom roms will be updated eventually to the latest, if not before.
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I need to learn how to use the search better. If I had read this first I assume I could have updated the radio without unlocking the bootloader. arg.
Yes I did not understand, ROM Manager first entry is Clockwork Recovery.
You said I can install themes using ROM manager?
I click on "Install ROM from SD Card", I had a pretty scary moment not know what I am doing I tried it the phone reboot to an "exclamation mark and Android". I pulled the battery and it booted.
This make me wonder if yor find an unstable theme or ROM how can you use ROM manager to restore a backup?
Could the reason Metamorph did not work is having "Clockwork Recovery"?
AstroDigital said:
Yes I did not understand, ROM Manager first entry is Clockwork Recovery.
You said I can install themes using ROM manager?
I click on "Install ROM from SD Card", I had a pretty scary moment not know what I am doing I tried it the phone reboot to an "exclamation mark and Android". I pulled the battery and it booted.
This make me wonder if yor find an unstable theme or ROM how can you use ROM manager to restore a backup?
Could the reason Metamorph did not work is having "Clockwork Recovery"?
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Sorry, but I am going to have to recommend you do a lot more reading in the development section, the wiki, and all the sticky posts. Don't try anything until you understand how linux works, partitions, bootloaders, how Android roms work, even how a metamorph works.
Spend a few weeks or a month reading about everything, through the whole threads before trying to jump in. That's how I learned everything.
You seem intelligent enough to do everything, but what you lack is an actual understanding of what those things are, so you just need to spend a lot more time on it.
When you do fully understand everything, it will be a breeze and you will enjoy it a lot more. You will be less likely to completely screw your phone, and if you do you will know exactly how to recover.
I need to learn how to use the search better. If I had read this first I assume I could have updated the radio without unlocking the bootloader. arg.
You saying yes it is true I need to unlock bootloader?
Sorry, but I am going to have to recommend you do a lot more reading in the development section, the wiki, and all the sticky posts. Don't try anything until you understand how linux works, partitions, bootloaders, how Android roms work, even how a metamorph works.
You maybe right, maybe I should give up for now. Learn to do a backup and restore using nandroid. Just not sure how much time I am willing to invest just to gain the able to put themes on my phone.
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I need to learn how to use the search better. If I had read this first I assume I could have updated the radio without unlocking the bootloader. arg.
You saying yes it is true I need to unlock bootloader?
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Yeah, you shouldn't do anything yet, read up on stuff for fun until you know what is going on.
For instance, in what I quoted above, you understood the exact opposite of what he was saying.
He was upset that he didn't find out about this way to root before he unlocked. He didn't have to unlock and is now disappointed he did.
OP. What ROM are you currently running? Stock FRF91 or something else?
To my understanding you need a De-Odexed ROM to apply themes that modify the framework.
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I've searched and read FAQs a lot already. I read the threads that XDA suggested before posting this.
I've been doing a lot of reading and I'm a little fuzzy. Want to root my gf's AT&T Captivate (JH7) and install Froyo for her but still a little unclear on exactly how everything fits together.
From what I've gathered so far I can use the update.zip method to install Clockwork Recovery and make a nandroid backup of her current configuration without even rooting it, right?
Then can I just flash whichever ROM I want? Will the ROM.zip update her to the correct modem/kernel at that time?
About using ODIN to restore - do I restore to the version she is on NOW or the version the phone originally shipped with, if different? And do I REALLY need to ODIN restore between ROMs or is a full wipe with CWM recovery enough?
Also read that CWM recovery doesn't work with Froyo at this time so can't do nandroid backups of Froyo ROMs?
Somebody catch me up... with my mt3g and mt4g I'm totally comfortable but this stuff is confusing me. I'm fairly comfortable with adb and already used it to sideload an app for her without rooting.
Thanks for your help guys.
I'm pretty new at this too so I'll try to answer what I can.
Before you try anything, just make sure you can get into recovery and download mode.
Recovery:
- Hold Vol Up + Vol Down + Power button.
- from adb type reboot recovery
- from Rom Manager, select the Reboot to Recovery option.
Download
- Hold Vol Up + Vol Down and insert the usb cable. This works for me. Getting Odin to detect it can be a bit tricky. I usually start Odin first, then connect phone.
- from adb type reboot download (I think)
From what I've gathered so far I can use the update.zip method to install Clockwork Recovery and make a nandroid backup of her current configuration without even rooting it, right?
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Not sure to be honest. The way I do it is that I install Rom Manager from the market first. It will ask you for root though. I like this way better as you can download and install the appropriate update.zip from the app. Rooting is very very easy. You can use this tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304
Then can I just flash whichever ROM I want? Will the ROM.zip update her to the correct modem/kernel at that time?
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To be safe, I only try ROMs that I find in the Captivate Development sub forum. Most of them can be installed with CWM. Place the *.zip in the root of your internal SD card, reboot into CWM and select the install .zip from card option. Don't freak out.
There is also a way to flash roms from Odin but I've never tried it to be honest.
About using ODIN to restore - do I restore to the version she is on NOW or the version the phone originally shipped with, if different? And do I REALLY need to ODIN restore between ROMs or is a full wipe with CWM recovery enough?
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I believe it will restore to Samsung's stock version (I897UCJF6). Check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Remember that this is only for the Captivate. It is safer to do a full restore whenever you are trying a new rom. The only exception, I think, is when you are upgrading versions (say, Darky's 7.8 to 8.0)
Also read that CWM recovery doesn't work with Froyo at this time so can't do nandroid backups of Froyo ROMs?
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I always install it using ROM manager and it works fine.
Now, from what I've been reading and doing this week, I learned that apart from the ROM, you can also flash the kernel and model separately, in case you have specific needs. For instance, I flashed glitterball's kernel to overclock the phone. Just remember that 2.1 Roms need 2.1 kernels and modems, the same applies for 2.2. Here is a list of modems: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835272
I'm currently trying out the TLJL3.
Remember that there are many ways to get to Rome. Also, use Titanium Backup to save your apps.
tl;dr:
1. Root.
2. Install CWM.
3. Verify that you can access recovery and download mode.
4. Download ROM (CWM .zip installable).
5. Read read read.
Much more detailed guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
LOADING CUSTOM ROMs
Phateless said:
I've searched and read FAQs a lot already. I read the threads that XDA suggested before posting this.
I've been doing a lot of reading and I'm a little fuzzy. Want to root my gf's AT&T Captivate (JH7) and install Froyo for her but still a little unclear on exactly how everything fits together.
From what I've gathered so far I can use the update.zip method to install Clockwork Recovery and make a nandroid backup of her current configuration without even rooting it, right?
Then can I just flash whichever ROM I want? Will the ROM.zip update her to the correct modem/kernel at that time?
About using ODIN to restore - do I restore to the version she is on NOW or the version the phone originally shipped with, if different? And do I REALLY need to ODIN restore between ROMs or is a full wipe with CWM recovery enough?
Also read that CWM recovery doesn't work with Froyo at this time so can't do nandroid backups of Froyo ROMs?
Somebody catch me up... with my mt3g and mt4g I'm totally comfortable but this stuff is confusing me. I'm fairly comfortable with adb and already used it to sideload an app for her without rooting.
Thanks for your help guys.
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Hmm... Most of your answers can be found in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
The ROM file would contain a kernel and a modem that will update her current kernel and modem. She can flash the kernel and modem of her choice after installing a custom ROM without breaking anything.
For Backing up use Titanium Backup, u need to ROOT your phone using directions in the earlier link provided.
When using custom ROMs it is always better to do a full wipe and flash to stock and master clear, i.e JF6 (using Odin one-click, or Odin with 3-button) or JH7 using the DG version.
You can follow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36
Update.zip file once installed would load CWM from which you can install custom ROMs. Once you install custom ROMs, they are always rooted, and you needn't root again. It's a one time thing.
Hope this resolves everything..
Thanks for your replies, guys, I'm actually very familiar with rooting and flashing. To clarify, I already know HOW to install a custom ROM, that's not the issue. I'm more concerned about compatibility once I start installing custom stuff, and about UNROOTING if I need to. It sounds like if all I'm doing is installing a custom recovery and then a custom ROM, I don't really need to worry about it.
I always opt for manual method through recovery as opposed to Rom Manager.
I would use SuperOneClick for the stock ROM as I've used it before without issues. Most likely I would use the update.zip method to install clockwork recovery so I can make a nandroid backup of her completely unrooted stock setup before proceeding.
I can get into stock recovery just fine but haven't tried download mode yet.
And yes I would ONLY flash ROMs for the Captivate specifically, unless someone manages to complete a port for Sense.
Sounds like your good to go then.
... and Odin is just the cheap and easy method to return the phone back to stock.
So if you ever need to give it back and need it restored this is the easiest method to do it. But I would suggest formatting the internal SD Card to make sure there are no remnants of you playing around with the phone.
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Sounds like your good to go then.
... and Odin is just the cheap and easy method to return the phone back to stock.
So if you ever need to give it back and need it restored this is the easiest method to do it. But I would suggest formatting the internal SD Card to make sure there are no remnants of you playing around with the phone.
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Agreed, will definitely do that.
I also heard that when using ODIN to restore to JF6 the OTA update to JH7 won't come back on its own?
lol yea.. but it doesn't matter unless you were wanting to keep it on "stock".
If your flashing or returning the phone your ok with keeping it on JF6.
If your phone came with JH7 and you have issues with Odin one-click, you might want to look at this guide, it has worked great for me and many others:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36
How do I know what build number her phone is? I see references to build number 1010, but I don't know if this phone CAME WITH jh7 or if that was an update. I bought it used. If I try to restore to JF6 will that brick it??
EDIT - found it. She's a 1007. So if I used ODIN-3 to restore to JF6, how do I get back to JH7? Reading elsewhere it seems that a nandroid restore won't include the baseband?
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So if I used ODIN-3 to restore to JF6, how do I get back to JH7? Reading elsewhere it seems that a nandroid restore won't include the baseband?
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Download the Mini Kies from here Download Center for SEG-I897ZKAATT.
Make sure the phone asks for USB on connection and select Kies mode when you plug into pc. Then open Mini Kies, it should recognize your phone and tell you an update is available. Follow the instructions from there.
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Download the Mini Kies from here Download Center for SEG-I897ZKAATT.
Make sure the phone asks for USB on connection and select Kies mode when you plug into pc. Then open Mini Kies, it should recognize your phone and tell you an update is available. Follow the instructions from there.
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Ok cool, thanks for your help! Already downloaded Kies from the Samsung website.
About to flash her phone but saw something somewhere about backing up some *.nv file to preserve her IMEI# and stuff? Can you link me to a guide on that? Can not for the life of me remember where I saw that.
So this is my first time at this, and could use a little guidance. I really dont want to Brick my phone. I don't have the money right now to get a new one. lol
Well I have done some research, but there is so much information out there that it is hard to figure it all out. I own an HTC Hero CDMA through Alltel, and I plan on installing CyanogenMod 7.2.
Right now I am looking at rooting with Z4Root, then using Rom Manager to install CM 7.2
I cant find a link to the Google apps I need, so if anyone has a link on hand that would be awesome.
Does anyone have some suggestions before I start?
gapps are usually posted in the op with the rom.
Here is the link to Google Apps.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version#Google_Apps
Notice there is only one Google Apps file for all devices running CM7 so you don't have to worry about downloading the wrong one
Your plan sounds fine. Personally I would rather use this as a chance to get more acquainted with ClockworkMod recovery than Rom Manager, as it is usually the tool that will save you if your phone goes wonky (you can use recovery to save you from any messed up ROM, but you can only use ROM Manager when your ROM is working in the first place). This is what I would do.
1) Z4 Root.
2) Install ROM Manager
3) Flash ClockworkMod Recovery
4) Download CM 7.0.2, place anywhere on SD card
5) Turn off phone, then hold Home + power to boot into ClockworkMod Recovery
OR in Rom Manager, click on Reboot to recovery
7) In ClockworkMod Recovery, go to Backups and restore > create nandroid backup
8) wipe factory settings from the main menu
9) Install zip from sdcard > flash CM 7.0.2 + Google apps
10) reboot
Done!
By the way, there are only two ways to brick the phone, AFAIK: flashing a wrong radio/bad radio flash or bad flash of an SPL. Installing a ROM (at least on the Hero) does neither of these, so you don't have to worry.
Thx for the guide, but I am having a problem when trying to Z4Root, it just stops at the ...Rebooting screen and never rebots. Also when I try to go into recover it comes up witha phone and a ! with a red triangle around it. Any advice?
I was stuck with Z4Root at the ...rebooting screen also. I just pressed Home or back to get out of it. Then I looked in my app drawer and saw Superuser was there. After that, I went to the Market and downloaded ROM Manager and flashed ClockworkMod recovery.
Z4 root hung up for me too. I ended up having to do it twice before it took. Imediately after you have superuser in your app drawer install Rom Manager....
That's where you get your custom recovery. If you don't have Rom Manager yet, you won't have custom recovery. Also, as tedius as some of these forums are, they are the best way to learn. Since rooting my hero, I have also rooted two Nook Colors and an LG Optimus, and become pretty familiar with using ADB......waiting to get my paws on my wife's Evo now.
****EDIT**** FYI Z4 Root took almost 15 minutes to run its course on my phone....Make sure you have a good battery.
My brother rooted his Captivate 6 months ago or more. He kept the stock ROM, and now would like to try a custom ROM. Unfortunately, he doesn't remember much about what he did. He said he downloaded a program, plugged in his phone, and it rooted him.
I assumed that I should be able to boot into recovery and flash a ROM from there. I looked up how to boot into recovery, and tried the 'hold down vol/up and power on' approach. Instead of a recovery menu, it goes directly to some kind of update screen with this text:
movi-check start..!!
... <lines removed>
install default apk files please wait
I've searched for these lines, and cannot find why this is coming up. I did find that this should have ended with a message that the install finished, but after leaving it for 10 minutes, it seemed to just reboot. Perhaps the message did come up, and then it immediately rebooted.
Does anyone know why the phone is in this state where there is no recovery menu? If I install ROM Manager and flash ClockworkMod is that likely to work and not cause harm?
Need a little more info... is it stock 2.1 or 2.2? If it's Froyo 2.2 then the stock recovery is tricky to get around if you're new to flashing or modding.
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Need a little more info... is it stock 2.1 or 2.2? If it's Froyo 2.2 then the stock recovery is tricky to get around if you're new to flashing or modding.
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Thanks. It is stock 2.2.
I am not new to flashing, and I'm comfortable with adb and other tools. I'm just not familiar with the Samsung Captivate.
Is the screen that comes up with 'movi_check' the stock recovery? it appears to be automatically trying to update something.
Probably just be easier to use Odin to flash stock 2.1 and root and get recovery on it. Then you can flash any (2.2) ROM you want on it, or you could use Odin or Heimdall to flash Gingerbread onto it (recommended). There are tutorials all in the development section.
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Reamer09 said:
Probably just be easier to use Odin to flash stock 2.1 and root and get recovery on it. Then you can flash any (2.2) ROM you want on it, or you could use Odin or Heimdall to flash Gingerbread onto it (recommended). There are tutorials all in the development section.
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If its a newer build it wont like 2.1 (alot of newer builds bootloop with 2.1). If your captivate is one of the newer builds and has the 3e recovery here is a guide to get past it.
As to flashing Gb you will need GB bootloaders wich carries risk. Please READ on how too and risk that may happen. Its a small risk but you can hard brick the phone if you mess up bootloaders or if the booloader fails to flash.
Another option is flashing KB1 2.2 froyo and using Desing Gear's Cog 4.x.x kernel. You will have clock work mod. There's a ton of ways to do it most of wich are in the forums already so search and if you have doubts ask
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If its a newer build it wont like 2.1 (alot of newer builds bootloop with 2.1). If your captivate is one of the newer builds and has the 3e recovery here is a guide to get past it.
As to flashing Gb you will need GB bootloaders wich carries risk. Please READ on how too and risk that may happen. Its a small risk but you can hard brick the phone if you mess up bootloaders or if the booloader fails to flash.
Another option is flashing KB1 2.2 froyo and using Desing Gear's Cog 4.x.x kernel. You will have clock work mod. There's a ton of ways to do it most of wich are in the forums already so search and if you have doubts ask
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It crossed my mind that newer builds wouldn't like 2.1, but I wasn't 100%, that's why I recommended going to GB. Just reading the instructions a few times and being prepared the risk is very low to hard brick. Just make sure to know exactly what you're doing when you choose which files for the primary and secondary boot loaders.
But said person is asking info on something as simple as rooting, Hence there are easier less evasive ways to get past 3e.
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But said person is asking info on something as simple as rooting, Hence there are easier less evasive ways to get past 3e.
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Just to clarify, I'm not asking about rooting, but about flashing and the recovery console. I'm an EVO user, and I just don't know the idiosyncrasies of the Captivate.
Am I correct that the messages I get when trying to go to recovery (starting with movi_check start) are normal, and that after those messages I should get the recovery console? If so, it seems to be stuck on the "install default apk files please wait" step, as this doesn't seem to complete.
I do see the steps on how to flash, and can follow them carefully, but since I am not getting the recovery console, I am not sure what might be wrong.
glenwill said:
Just to clarify, I'm not asking about rooting, but about flashing and the recovery console. I'm an EVO user, and I just don't know the idiosyncrasies of the Captivate.
Am I correct that the messages I get when trying to go to recovery (starting with movi_check start) are normal, and that after those messages I should get the recovery console? If so, it seems to be stuck on the "install default apk files please wait" step, as this doesn't seem to complete.
I do see the steps on how to flash, and can follow them carefully, but since I am not getting the recovery console, I am not sure what might be wrong.
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You can't flash a rom with stock recovery. You need clockwork mod wich can be achieve by using rom manager (needs root) or flashign with Odin a kernel that has it built in
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You can't flash a rom with stock recovery. You need clockwork mod wich can be achieve by using rom manager (needs root) or flashign with Odin a kernel that has it built in
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Thanks for your help. I do understand I can't flash with stock recovery.
Both the 'Read BEFORE flashing' and the 'How to Install a custom ROM' guides instruct to install clockwork mod. I am aware that installing a new recovery needs to be done before flashing on probably any device.
I guess my primary confusion was whether the 'movi_check start' verbage is normal to see when I am trying to go to Recovery before installing Clockwork. Another google search finally found a hit that says it is normal to see this. I'm still not clear whether I should be concerned that it hangs on the "install default apk files" step.
Since it hangs, I don't ever get any kind of recovery menu, so it wasn't obvious to me that I was actually in the stock recovery.
Assuming this doesn't indicate any issues, I'll proceed with the instructions and all should be well.
Well I hope you are able to work it out. ^^
Okay Im trying to go into this amazing world of roms and kernals and boots and flashboots I started this trip just because I hear you can OVER CLOCK CPU
I just started when I got my droid 3 on the 14th, so far Ive gotten the hang of
ROOT with pete one click
root manager to check things out or rename *.apk to *.bak
titanium backup, to make back ups? and freeze (same as above?)
script manager to run a remove bloat (same as above??)
do these 3 really do things all that different?
now im getting deeping into the rabbits hole.
bootstrap, I made my first NANDroid which is a NAND or back up I think, for the droid... how clever
Rom manager to manage roms i guess, i think this was the one that wouldnt be ready until the boot loader was unlocked right?
If the boot loader is locked then what is
fast/flashboot for??? same as boot strap or different?
CYANOGEN or CM7??? no idea what this is... a ROM???
last but not least do any of these have to do with changing the KERNAL so I can finally overclock on setcpu???
nandroid which is a complete backup of the internal flash memory.
rom manager is use to manage roms, duh, this will be useful once we get the ability to flash roms through CWM
ROMs may or may not come with a kernel, we can't flash kernels because they require an unlocked bootloader because they are loaded by the bootloader as part of the initial booting
fastboot is part of the phones bootloader (i assume or is on a similar level), it allows basic interaction with the phones hardware and software
cyanogen or CM7 is a custom rom, often with a kernel included but doesn't need a custom one per-say
im new here too and this is what i have gathered so far correct me if im wrong.
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CYANOGEN or CM7??? no idea what this is... a ROM???
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http://www.cyanogenmod.com/
You started off with a bad first device for android development since it's locked down. However, I'm amazed at the progress being made already. We will not be able to flash custom kernals, because we are locked out of the bootloader. We will be able to over clock in the long run though, just give it time.
Rom Manager is used to browse, select and flash custom roms using an easy to use app. The problem is that we can't boot to recovery directly, we have to go though the reboot and BP Tools method so all you can really use Rom Manager for is to download roms to your phone which you can then manually flash. It will be empty right now because we have no roms.
Titanium Backup's primary purpose is to back up apps with DATA. So all your game saves, settings, things like that can be easily restored after you flash to a new ROM.
Fastboot files are used to recover different partitions on your phone should you brick it.
The term 'bootstrap' is bothering me a bit. Can somebody clarify it?
As I understood it bootstrap was a method of loading a custom recovery, but not the same method as the 2nd init that we are using here. I was under the impression that bootstraps were a bit lower, requiring an unlocked bootloader.
In any case the program that allows you to create backups and flash custom roms is called a 'Recovery' or 'Custom Recovery'. The one you have on the phone right now is ClockWorkMod.
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The term 'bootstrap' is bothering me a bit. Can somebody clarify it?
As I understood it bootstrap was a method of loading a custom recovery, but not the same method as the 2nd init that we are using here. I was under the impression that bootstraps were a bit lower, requiring an unlocked bootloader.
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This was written for DX/D2 but I imagine it's the same basic process.
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Bootstrapper works by doing the following.
When you hit the "Bootstrap Recovery" button the app renames logwrapper to logwrapper.bin, adds a file called Hijack and symlinks a new logwrapper file to Hijack. (For you windows people, a symlink is like a shortcut...)
At boot, init.rc calls for logwrapper, which now calls Hijack (by way of symbolic link) which is how we can load into Clockwork recovery.
When Hijack runs, it checks for a file called /data/.recovery_mode if it finds that file, it unmounts /system and boots into Clockwork recovery, if it doesn't find that file, it creates it and calls logwrapper.bin (the factory logwrapper file) and boots normally.
When the OS is completely booted, Droid 2 Bootstrapper (the app) is loaded and deletes the file /data/.recovery_mode. Since the boot was successful, it assumes you don't want to boot into recovery next time.
If on the other hand, the OS doesn't boot normally, and Droid 2 Boostrapper never loads and therefore never removes /data/.recovery_mode, it should let you into Clockwork on your next boot.
Now, when you open the Bootstrap app and hit the "reboot recovery" button, it manually adds the /data/.recovery_mode file and then begins the reboot process. Upon reboot, Hijack finds the file /data/.recovery_mode, and boots into Clockwork.
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So far, I have rooted the phone. The bootloader says the device is unlocked.
Where do I go from here?
I have a ROM picked out already, it's on the SD card, on the phone, all ready to go. The problem I'm having is I have no idea how to "reboot to recovery" in the ROM instalation steps when I can't figure how to install a recovery like CWM (which doesn't seem to be avaliable for this phone?).
I've been at this for an hour and a half and so far I've made no progress other than simply frustrating myself with my inability to figure out what seems to be something so simple.
I have a fully rooted and moded Atrix2, but I was able to install CWM Recovery from google play, and it's all simple from there, but that's where I'm stuck at with this AtrixHD, I can't find a recovery to install to flash ROM, flash gapps, clear dalvic, and carry on my happy way.
I've been searching and trying more things and with no luck. It's been two hours now. I can't find a CWM Recovery to install, and TWRP just gives me dead-droid that I have to unscrew the battery connector to hard reset the phone to go back and try again.
I've been refraining from posting this, but I'm going to bed now and I've had no luck at all. Really could just use some help.
Use myth tools to install cwm. You can also download the latest cwm or Philz and flash it in fastboot mode.
Myth Tools is a windows binary, I'm running linux, so it doesn't do me much good at all.
Also, I don't know where to get the latest CWM. Haven't heard of Philz, but I'll see if I can find it. As for flashing it in fastboot mode, never done that before (since I never had to with old phone), so not entirely sure how to.
Found the how to flash a recovery finally http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_mb886 no longer stuck now. Installing ROM as I type this.
Did you unlock the bootloader?
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Did you unlock the bootloader?
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Yes, ROM is loaded onto the phone already now, I was stuck at not having CWM recovery, but I found a how-to with replacing it now.
I just wasn't having luck finding out what to do with that step. It's kinda a learning curve with installing custom roms, once you learn it, it's simple, but with every device being somewhat different and needing special steps for some devices, and different steps for others, this wasn't the same process as my old phone and it left me a bit lost and quite stuck. The URL I put above gave me everything I needed to know that I didn't already have knowledge about.
Download philz recovery and then download flashify from play store and flash recovery through it
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