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Zoom APP in the Market!!

For everyone that havent noticed yet, theres a new app on the market that allows ZOOM on the G1 Camera, now we are only missing a FLASH so we can get great quality pics on night.

What is the name of the app?

BSDADON said:
What is the name of the app?
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CamaraZoom
That's the easy way to find it via search on the market... and cost .99 euro?

You do know that this is digital zoom and not optical zoom, right? You're basically getting a cropped picture. You may as well just take the picture click the zoom button on your viewer...

What's the point of digital zoom that makes the crappy pictures indistinguishable?

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What's the point of digital zoom that makes the crappy pictures indistinguishable?
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Nothing.. they're just smaller crappy pictures.
Now, if you really want a zoom, get one of these babies. I got it on e-bay for $13 including shipping and it's the real deal. Plus, you look like a total ubercooldork when you pull it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508175

Ill be happier when they come out with the S60 ability to do "Night Mode" which gave me GREAT pictures in nighttime and so without the flash.

At max zoom you are getting the equivalent of a .5MP photo which means you have an image that is 2048x1526 pixels large and only have 500,000 pixels to fill it. Add to that the fact that the autofocus cant figure out what to do to obtain a decent image and you end up with pictures that are more grainy than the Sahara Desert. This is why I havent added it to snapPhoto. If you want crappy pictures then simply take the image and zoom it with some other app.
Now Flash. You do realise that flash is a hardware thing right? And you do realise that you cant code hardware into something that doesnt have it. I would have thought that was a basic concept but here we are 9 months after launch and people still cant figure that out.
As far as nightmode - on snapphoto it does work, but it cant make light where there is none so if you expect it to make a shot taken in very dark areas to suddenly be like a shot taken in full daylight - think again. All nightmode does is leave the shutter open longer in an attempt to get more light exposure. As a result of this any movement will lead to much blurrier pics.
If you want an example of what can be achieved by someone who takes a little time to play with the settings in my app check out .
http://thecrayonbox.org/files/nightbeach.jpg
Taken with snapphotopro.

Nice with snapphoto. I may try that for the G1. However the Nokia S60 phones have a great night mode. Ive taken alot of pictures with low light and it performed better then my optical digital camera. This was with a Nokia 3650 which isnt even a MP phone (My 2 MP camera was dark photos only)
This was taken at a amusement park on top of the "Eifel Tower" at the twilight night time.
http://www.darkmystics.com/kd/Image(42).jpg
I did a comparison that night between the 2 modes.
http://www.darkmystics.com/kd/Image(43).jpg
Yea it added a green tint, but for when I travel out now, I use my phone all the time. =) (Granted did upgraded to a higher caliber S60 MP camera phone lol)

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Nothing.. they're just smaller crappy pictures.
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i LOLed.

This is a seriously cool camera.
I know its digital zoom but really helps for composition and saves the hassle of cropping later on (say if I take 10 zoomed pictures).
I love Snap Photo too, but Camera ZOOM is the new camera for me - seems a lot of people like it - already top 25 app!
Customisable skins, animations, easy to use and fast ... would definitely recommend.

Instable nightpictures

Again, just like my LG Arena, the camera disappoints. Especially at night.
When I like to shoot a picture when there isn't any daylight, the photo's turn blurry and unstable. This especially seems to be since i installed the custom rom from Paul (i guess, not sure).
Try this:
Outside at daylight. Launch the camera app. Now move you phone around and look at your screen. Is it laggy? Probably not.
Now do the same in your room at night with just some lights on, and it laggs a lot.
Am I the only one?

Don't expect night photos from a phone. If you want that you need a proper camera - ideally an SLR with a decent lens. And a tripod.

Hi,
I‘ve had my phone for over a week and a half and aleady taken a few pics with it, including at night and though night shots weren‘t fantastic they were deffinitely not bad, in fact i was pretty impressed with the result, for a phone. I would upload a picture but not sure how, am new on here...
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I mean, a blackberry bold 9700 can make better night pictures. I don't care about the amount of pixels. I care amount the blurryness of the photo when somebody moves just a bit.

[Q] Camera

Love the phone, especially with the Revolt 1.5 ROM, but I hate the camera. The camera lag, time between touching the button and getting a picture, is terrible. So bad, I can't use it to pictures of people/pets in candid moments. Tried taking photos of my boss opening her birthday gifts. All I got was blurry photos of her face buried in the next gift, not the photo of joy of her opening gifts.
Is there anything that can be done? a setting maybe, or a software issue that a future ROM could fix?
Love the phone, other than the damn camera!

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Love the phone, especially with the Revolt 1.5 ROM, but I hate the camera. The camera lag, time between touching the button and getting a picture, is terrible. So bad, I can't use it to pictures of people/pets in candid moments. Tried taking photos of my boss opening her birthday gifts. All I got was blurry photos of her face buried in the next gift, not the photo of joy of her opening gifts.
Is there anything that can be done? a setting maybe, or a software issue that a future ROM could fix?
Love the phone, other than the damn camera!
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You could try a different camera app. I personally haven't had issues with the stock camera, but I've been using camera advance pro. More features and seems to work smoother
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Get a real camera? I haven't noticed anything to terrible but this thing isn't a real camera to me.. I have a 60D for that

The only thing that can really be done is inside the settings menu itself. Change the focus mode to face tracking, and turn flash off. The bad part is when you change the settings it does not hold once close the app.
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mtmichaelson:
thanks for suggestion. I am trying Advanced Camera. The shutter lag is much less; so that is great. Also I like aLL the options and look forward to getting to use them all. BUT, there is a proble. The app has locked up twice on me and it only has been 1 hour.
xjli:
I have had and will soon get a dedicated camera, but I would like to be able to capture spontaneous shots whenever the opportunity arises. I always have my phone; won't always have a camera. The Advanced Camera app might be the answer if the force closes go away.

xjli said:
Get a real camera? I haven't noticed anything to terrible but this thing isn't a real camera to me.. I have a 60D for that
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I've got a 30D. Love it but doesn't exactly fit in my pocket hehe.
I've noticed turning the flash off helps with the delay. And as I'm sure xjili will agree, you should almost never have that damn thing on anyway. Flash ruins the white balance / color of photos and makes them look horrible. Easily the most over/mis-used feature of any camera.
My personal favorite is when people use the flash when taking a picture of something far away... Do they really think their built-in flash has a range of 50 meters? But I digress...
Does Camera Advance have any sort of "shaky hand" compensation feature? Awhile back I purchased Camera ZOOM FX for my original Droid; it had that option and it actually worked really well. I totally forgot about it until now, but I'll install it, see how it works on the Revo, and post a review of some sort.
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jamRwoo said:
I've got a 30D. Love it but doesn't exactly fit in my pocket hehe.
I've noticed turning the flash off helps with the delay. And as I'm sure xjili will agree, you should almost never have that damn thing on anyway. Flash ruins the white balance / color of photos and makes them look horrible. Easily the most over/mis-used feature of any camera.
My personal favorite is when people use the flash when taking a picture of something far away... Do they really think their built-in flash has a range of 50 meters? But I digress...
Does Camera Advance have any sort of "shaky hand" compensation feature? Awhile back I purchased Camera ZOOM FX for my original Droid; it had that option and it actually worked really well. I totally forgot about it until now, but I'll install it, see how it works on the Revo, and post a review of some sort.
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From what I've seen, there is no stabilization feature, however three is an option for a burst about, which takes three images in rapid succession. That could get a clear shot if you have the shakes
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Had this phone for a while and did not know about this! Thanks, gotta try this out.
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From what I've seen, there is no stabilization feature, however three is an option for a burst about, which takes three images in rapid succession. That could get a clear shot if you have the shakes
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Camera ZOOM FX seems to work very well, lots of features including the stabilization feature, but the accelerometer in the Revo appears to be too sensitive to make use of this.
Other features:
*Burst shot. You can set the delay between each photo as well as how many to take (up to 14).
*Add effects to your photos, with lots of effects available for download in the market if you're into that kind of thang.
*Can be set as default camera app.
*Timer delayed shot. Also has an option to take photo when you clap, but I haven't tested that.
*You can set swiping left/right/up/down to various functions like changing white balance, antibanding, zooming in/out, et al.
*Digital zoom seems to work pretty well.
*Haven't had any FC problems, and it definitely snaps photos faster.
*I like the interface considerably more than the stock one. Will get some screen caps if anyone expresses interest.
I'm definitely gonna be using this I instead of the stock camera. No problems shooting video with it either.
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Camera Focus Problem

EDIT: So, I did some more testing and the fault seems to be with the focus of the camera. Initially when you open the camera app it auto focuses and this then leaves me with an out of focus picture and touch to focus never actually changes anything. I tested Camera FV-5 and this app has an option to disable auto focus, allowing me to take a picture without the camera ever focusing, this takes a perfect picture but if I touch to focus it goes out of focus just like the stock camera.
Obviously it is faulty as it no longer makes that click when you open the camera app, well it does, but only like once every dozen times the camera is opened (still out of focus btw) ... Macro shots work perfectly, focus is spot on but anything at a distance of about more than a foot or two away just seems to blur.
Below are a few more shots that highlight the error:
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It is more and more common failure in new HTC craphones.I have it in mine also.
Mike

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It is more and more common failure in new HTC craphones.I have it in mine also.
Mike
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Thanks for the reply .. So it's not faulty then? Just a big negative of having so few pixels, no matter how much light they let in?

IMO it is hardware problem.
Mike

AllAboutTheCore said:
Has anybody else had problems with blurry shots when not taking a picture of something close? I recently went to the coast for the day and decided to take some pictures from the cliffs and on the beach, all of which were just scenic pictures at distance (nothing close up or in particular that could/wanted to focus on) but they all came out blurry. I don't seem to have any issues when taking pictures of close up objects or when there's something in particular to focus on but anything else is just pathetic.
I compared them to my Sony digital camera from about 4 years ago the pictures were spot on compared to the One ... See a couple of examples below. I tried focusing on various parts aswell but still the pictures are terrible ... Does this sound like a fault with the camea or focusing part in particular, or is it just that the One takes terrible pictures when not close up?
Thanks for any input. (The ones in focus are from my digital camera and everything blurry is from the One)
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I would honestly do more tests indoor and outdoor to see if its a hardware problem.
I was having focus problems too, and I thought the OIS should be working better.
Then i started holding the phone a bit closer to me when taking a photo making sure both hands are holding the phone, kind of like holding a regular camera.
Also take advantage of exposure/focus lock; then snap the photo. Once I starting holding the phone more like a camera my focus issues went away. This was most noticeable in lower light conditions when the shutter speed isn't as fast as outside. I think something is going on and the OIS is trying to compensate for movement.
I also drink tons of coffee so my hands get a bit shaky!

gustav30 said:
I would honestly do more tests indoor and outdoor to see if its a hardware problem.
I was having focus problems too, and I thought the OIS should be working better.
Then i started holding the phone a bit closer to me when taking a photo making sure both hands are holding the phone, kind of like holding a regular camera.
Also take advantage of exposure/focus lock; then snap the photo. Once I starting holding the phone more like a camera my focus issues went away. This was most noticeable in lower light conditions when the shutter speed isn't as fast as outside. I think something is going on and the OIS is trying to compensate for movement.
I also drink tons of coffee so my hands get a bit shaky!
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Lol, I don't have the caffeine issue but with regards to tests, I have done lotssssssssssss lol. Pictures I've taken close up, especially ones where I want to focus on something in particular, look good, but anything at distance or ones where I don't want to focus on a certain area, just a scenic shot, they all look blurry like the examples.

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I want to focus on something in particular, look good, but anything at distance or ones where I don't want to focus on a certain area, just a scenic shot, they all look blurry like the examples.
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Same here. Macro are great, standard are blurry and lack of details.
Mike

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Same here. Macro are great, standard are blurry and lack of details.
Mike
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I'm 99% sure it's software related and that's based purely on a test I just did with a 3rd party camera app and the stock one. I took the same shot with both camera apps and did nothing but let it auto focus and take the shot, one looks fine, the other looks blurry ... Doesn't take much guess work to figure out by these results, that it must be software based because both pictures use the same hardware
Check these 3 pictures. One is a nice close up with the stock camera on Sense, which looks very good. The other two pics are the two mentioned earlier, as you can see, stock Sense camera is blurry and out of focus but the 3rd party one is much, much better ...

Both look like crap, sorry. No details, no sharpness.
Mike

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Both look like crap, sorry. No details, no sharpness.
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They're not going to be full of detail, it's dull, I didn't adjust any settings, I didn't manually focus or adjust exposure and I took them from my room ... Through the window.
I didn't take them to capture detail, purely to show how two different camera apps using the same hardware, give completely different results when it comes to backgrounds not being blurred or out of focus. If it had been a nice day and scenic then the pictures would obviously have looked better but then my issue is with focus and blur on the Sense camera, not how little detail the HTC is capable of capturing when the conditions are anything but perfect.

My camera just seems to have issues staying focused, pictures aren't bad by any means though.

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I am on my 3rd HTC One M7 since April when I initially ordered. First two had gaps and poor build quality. I finally get a good build but have the same camera issue. Its all out of focus and bit blurred. I have reset to factory etc but no fix so its hardware problem.It's now on its way back for repair with P4U in the UK. Hopefully 4th time I will get a workable well built phone.

I seem to be experiencing the same issue. It didn't start happening until Sep. 14th. Did your issues start suddenly, or did your One always have this problem?
Here are some example shots:
Proper auto focus at a short distance
Improper auto focus from maybe 10 feet away
Improper auto focus from far away

And my phone issues, you can interview about the android4.2.2, perfect results, the focus is normal, close-range vision is normal, personal guess is driver problem, but no ability to solve, hope can help transplant drive.

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Camera zoom fx/third party camera apps

I've read some really good reviews for the camera zoom fx app, has anyone used this on their Z1 or similar camera apps from the play store.
The stock app is so hit and miss and although it can produce some great quality pictures, sometimes having to fiddle around with manual settings etc. can prevent capturing precious moments.
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I've read some really good reviews for the camera zoom fx app, has anyone used this on their Z1 or similar camera apps from the play store.
The stock app is so hit and miss and although it can produce some great quality pictures, sometimes having to fiddle around with manual settings etc. can prevent capturing precious moments.
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I have tried all (decent) camera apps out there, camera fx, camera pro, fv5, motorola camera, kitkat camera and so on... all of them are worse than stock, I mean you can tweak some settings exposure stuff like that (on some of them) but the stock camera in high lights captures the best shots of all camera apps (and 95% better than manual too), when it's cloudy or lights aren't high switch to manual, no setting, no scene, no hdr, no steady shot, nothing. If the picture is too exposed I suggest to use the native resolution 20mp 4:3 which result in a bit darker photo. In low lights, or night ... ATM forget about that I'm unable (unless maybe you have patience and a tripod) to capture nice shots.
When you use the stock camera in auto please keep an eye on bottom right and before each shot check if it detects the correct scene, if not change angle if you don't want then switch to manual (with settings said before). Remember that we don't have OIS (optical image stabilizer) but a software one, which IMHO currently is a lie, so keep your hands steady as a brick.

Probably wait and see what the 4.3 update will bring to the camera before even spending money on buying anything.

gumbsy1 said:
I've read some really good reviews for the camera zoom fx app, has anyone used this on their Z1 or similar camera apps from the play store.
The stock app is so hit and miss and although it can produce some great quality pictures, sometimes having to fiddle around with manual settings etc. can prevent capturing precious moments.
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I found the LG camera app to be excellent. It's taking some great shots on my Z1. Mind you, I'm no photo expert so I could be wrong but I just did a compare with some 20mp shots on the manual mode with stock cam and the 20mp shots with the LG app. Found the LG app much better as I can't be bothered with tweaking settings. Most shots I take need to be completed within 2-3 secs. I also tried FXcameraZoom and wasn't too happy with it.

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I have tried all (decent) camera apps out there, camera fx, camera pro, fv5, motorola camera, kitkat camera and so on... all of them are worse than stock, I mean you can tweak some settings exposure stuff like that (on some of them) but the stock camera in high lights captures the best shots of all camera apps (and 95% better than manual too), when it's cloudy or lights aren't high switch to manual, no setting, no scene, no hdr, no steady shot, nothing. If the picture is too exposed I suggest to use the native resolution 20mp 4:3 which result in a bit darker photo. In low lights, or night ... ATM forget about that I'm unable (unless maybe you have patience and a tripod) to capture nice shots.
When you use the stock camera in auto please keep an eye on bottom right and before each shot check if it detects the correct scene, if not change angle if you don't want then switch to manual (with settings said before). Remember that we don't have OIS (optical image stabilizer) but a software one, which IMHO currently is a lie, so keep your hands steady as a brick.
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So more often than not you just use superier auto unless it's dark then you go for manual?
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So more often than not you just use superier auto unless it's dark then you go for manual?
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Exactly

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Exactly
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a good camere is: Camera awesome.
Now i have ihacher 1.1 and superior is set to 20 mp ... very good

gioiellino said:
a good camere is: Camera awesome.
Now i have ihacher 1.1 and superior is set to 20 mp ... very good
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Tried that one too, I didn't see any substantial difference

after several tests Pro Capture is my favourite camera app
faster, more precise and better focus than stock
special support for Xperia Z1 (optimized algorithm and 16/9 wide 20MPX)
better auto mode performance than stock superior auto
macro have more sharp details
sometimes I use stock camera because it can handle ISO level and if I have a lot of light I can set ISO 50 and reduce the exposure to obtein perfect panorama images