So I am in a area that doesn't have 4g yet but all day today I have been getting a 4g indicator but sowed test verified I'm not getting 4g this is showing up on both my revolution and etudes thunderbolt.
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2 things I know that are relevant here: You can see what kind of connection its using by clicking any of the tests, and itll show the type of connection, ie wifi, 3g or LTE. Also, if Im physically in or relatively close to Denver ("official" 4g spot) I can get anywhere between 10-30mbps down and upto 5mbps up, but where I live in Sedalia, I get 4g (unofficially) and get maybe 9mbps down and 1.5mbps up tops. Going by your speeds, theyre really slow for 4g, but very high for verizon 3g, so Id lean towards bad 4g instead of good 3g. The highest speed I ever pulled on any verizon 3g phone or device was 2.5mbps on one test, otherwise generally upto 1.8mbps, and most of the time less than that.
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I have cognition rom and instead of having 3g I have this H internet. It sits on 3g for a milla second then switches to H. My buddy with iphone four is getting way higher speed tests than me, why can't I get 3g and get better speeds?
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Since this has only been answered 100 times in the past three weeks...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=H+instead+of+3g+XDA
AND as far as the better speeds for the Iphone go......you can Google that as well............ I'm guessing your on At&T?
I don't know why but my buddies 3g was consistently hitting 300-350 kbs. The max I was hitting was like 150. We were right next to each other when we were testing this, I guess that the iphone blows the captivate away in 3g reception and speed. Also in the spotty areas he was keeping his 3g and I was dropping down to edge. Kinda disappointed . Had anyone else noticed that the 3g reception isn't that good our is it just my area?
jamezz23 said:
I have cognition rom and instead of having 3g I have this H internet. It sits on 3g for a milla second then switches to H. My buddy with iphone four is getting way higher speed tests than me, why can't I get 3g and get better speeds?
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this is why i hate american cell providers, they want you to remain ignorant. it's not your fault but it is funny that people arent familiar with grps, edge, hspa, and hspa+ it is like they are telling you that you are too stupid to understand so you dont need to know.
the cdma providers are the worst. but att should be proud of having hspa, but i think they want to hide the fact that it is not available in all 3g areas. instead they advertise the hspa speeds as there 3g speeds as hspa works on there 3g network. they dont distinguish the two so you think there network is so much faster in so many places
meanwhile verizon advertises the hspa coverage for att as 3g coverage to make att's coverage look smaller. they say they have so much more coverage, if they showed a current 3g map for att instead of the hspa coverage you would not see a big difference at all. also cdma 3g is totally different from what att has and is not a fair comparison in the first place. how can you compare coverage if the speed is not comparable?
Comparing phones side by side with speed test is also not the best way to test which device is faster, especially if they are on the same network. I am annoyed by the input on this device or Id go in depth. Use some google-foo and read on cell phone signaling and theory and youll see what I mean.
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I live about 55 miles outside Chicago and I am getting 2 bars of LTE, should I shut that off? I get full bars of 3g, we are not supposed to have LTE here yet.
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I live about 55 miles outside Chicago and I am getting 2 bars of LTE, should I shut that off? I get full bars of 3g, we are not supposed to have LTE here yet.
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If you have it and it doesn't constantly cycle and it works, leave it on. You are not going to get charged extra for it.
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Thanks, I am just curious if its worth keeping lower signal over full on 3g?
Not sure if the bars have anything to do with data, I was told it was only for cell service. I could be wrong.
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Thanks, I am just curious if its worth keeping lower signal over full on 3g?
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U will save your battery a little on 3G, but if you have 4G then use it. It is ten times faster and once you use it, slower 3G speeds will start to annoy you.
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Thanks, I am just curious if its worth keeping lower signal over full on 3g?
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If your signal is too low, it will switch out. You can play a little and see if the weak signal slows your data. Go to speakeasy.com and test you speeds. That will tell you how fast the data is moving up and down.
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i have senn 10mb/s down speeds with 1 bar of lte. if you are getting 2 bars you should be good.
I think idefiler6 was dead on.... the bars don't have anything to do with data. The bars only represent the voice. The 4g/3g data connections that are displayed are in addition to the voice signal that is represented by the bars.
I cam coming to the VIVID from the Atrix and had a couple of issues. I am living in a 4g hdspa area not LTE yet but my speeds with the VIVID were only around 82kb so I talked to ATT and they checked to see if the sim was correct and everything was ok. I then took the sim out the VIVID and put it back in the Atrix I then get over 5mb down. I then go back to ATT and they replace the phone and same issue so they issue a brand new sim and still the same issue. I am going to keep the phone for a couple of weeks to see if something changes but is anybody seeing this issue in non LTE areas. Thanks
I have the skyrocket and getting worse speeds then on other 3g phones I had?
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I'm getting about 1.3 Mbs in non LTE... (Portland)
Thanks for the post I checked with ATT and they cannot figure whats causing this problem I am guessing that somehow ATT LTE Phones are getting confused when there is not LTE in the area and somehow slowing the data down. I am not sure but hopefully will get some answers. Thanks
I sometimes get a couple of mb down and then it throttles back to less than a 100 kb this happened on two brand new phones
I was wondering could it be the APN settings are incorrect.
These phones will be either in LTE or HSPA mode and not both at once. If you see the 4G indicator without LTE under it you are on UMTS/HSPA. If you lose the 4G indicator then congratulations, you are on 2G GSM. Also note that when you make a call the mobile will drop down to UMTS/HSPA and your data speeds will be slower until it reselects back to LTE.
And all phones will have the PTA APN...
I just ran a couple times & about 2 meg down & .9 meg up.
I did have to load APN info this morning because I had no mobile connection at all.
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I am getting my fastest hspa+ speeds with my vivid faster than my inspire and infuse
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Look at your build.prop file in /system what are the hsdpa and hsupa class values? Att screwed the inspire before by lowering the classes, then finally upped them. We may need to update them as well. I think hsdpa of 26 and hsupa of 7 were what the inspire needed to be faster. Mine are 12 and 6 right now. Need root to change though.
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I am getting my fastest hspa+ speeds with my vivid faster than my inspire and infuse
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Ditto. 5023/1121 just now in a non-LTE area...
Maybe the OP needs ATT to remove and readd the data plan... *shrug*
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Ditto. 5023/1121 just now in a non-LTE area...
Maybe the OP needs ATT to remove and readd the data plan... *shrug*
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6525/1057 in a non-lte area way better than my infuse
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gtkansan said:
Look at your build.prop file in /system what are the hsdpa and hsupa class values? Att screwed the inspire before by lowering the classes, then finally upped them. We may need to update them as well. I think hsdpa of 26 and hsupa of 7 were what the inspire needed to be faster. Mine are 12 and 6 right now. Need root to change though.
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Mine are set at 14/6. Wonder if they throttled these phones like they did the inspire and atrix when they first came out. I've been getting 6/7 down and between .8/1.3 up. Not great but not horrible, about the same as my atrix 2 was.
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Ok the thing about this phone is that there is no 3g radios in it. You either get LTE, HSPA+ or edge. So if you are in a poor coverage area that uses mainly 3g, dont get this phone. Honestly i dont see the point of this phone if you dont live in one of the LTE cities or very near it. I live in plano and work in richardson and both those area have LTE so i havent had to resort to hspa+ yet. So moral of the story, there is no 3G on this phone...
But anyways here are my speedtest results. the low ones were in the college library with 1 bar so that didnt suprise me.
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Ok the thing about this phone is that there is no 3g radios in it. You either get LTE, HSPA+ or edge. So if you are in a poor coverage area that uses mainly 3g, dont get this phone. Honestly i dont see the point of this phone if you dont live in one of the LTE cities or very near it. I live in plano and work in richardson and both those area have LTE so i havent had to resort to hspa+ yet. So moral of the story, there is no 3G on this phone...
But anyways here are my speedtest results. the low ones were in the college library with 1 bar so that didnt suprise me.
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Please enlighten me on the No 3G bands in the phone.
Looks to me on the HTC site its all in there Edge, UMTS, GSM, HSPA+ and LTE.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/vivid-att?view=1-0&sort=0#tech-specs
Network-LTE (AWS/700), HSPA+/UMTS Tri-band (850/1900/2100MHz) and quad-band GSM/GPRS/ EDGE (850/900/1800/1900MHz)
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Ditto. 5023/1121 just now in a non-LTE area...
Maybe the OP needs ATT to remove and readd the data plan... *shrug*
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9225/1125 without LTE on my Vivid
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Please enlighten me on the No 3G bands in the phone.
Looks to me on the HTC site its all in there Edge, UMTS, GSM, HSPA+ and LTE.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/vivid-att?view=1-0&sort=0#tech-specs
Network-LTE (AWS/700), HSPA+/UMTS Tri-band (850/1900/2100MHz) and quad-band GSM/GPRS/ EDGE (850/900/1800/1900MHz)
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According to the ATT rep, the vivid will not have 3g service. Im not sure of the bands and all that but maybe the APN for it wont work. Has anybody been able to use 3g?
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According to the ATT rep, the vivid will not have 3g service. Im not sure of the bands and all that but maybe the APN for it wont work. Has anybody been able to use 3g?
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Are you serious? Is this why I've been having trouble connecting to websites since yesterday? I definitely didnt have 4g signals all the time when I was on the htc inspire. It would often go to 3g, and now if this phone has no 3g then that must explain my issues. At&t really mislead customers. First they release 4g phones and barely had a 4g network. Now they release lte phones, I think you see the pattern.
I may just go to the atrix 2?
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Are you serious? Is this why I've been having trouble connecting to websites since yesterday? I definitely didnt have 4g signals all the time when I was on the htc inspire. It would often go to 3g, and now if this phone has no 3g then that must explain my issues. At&t really mislead customers. First they release 4g phones and barely had a 4g network. Now they release lte phones, I think you see the pattern.
I may just go to the atrix 2?
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I thought I was the only one who had problems connecting to websites....ughh damn you AT&T.
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That sucks this is my speed test in a non LTE area my vivid is blazing fast
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This thread is simply voting which data you use and why.
I personally am using 3G (HSPA+ 21) even though I could use 4G (I live in Canada), mainly because of the poor battery like I'm experiencing with this device if used on 4G.
So what are you using? And why?
Using 3G+ (42) because the 4G frequency in Australia doesn't work with the N4, or most phones unless a special model comes out like the 4G version of the S3
Just plain ol' 21/42 MBps H+
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3G, no choice, if 4G was an option I'd probably give it a shot but if I noticed extreme battery drain I would go back to 3G as well.
Edge
i live in canada too, but i did several tests, using 4g makes the voice call quality really bad. so i stick with 3g now
I use both... I get pretty decent speed on DC-HSPA about 20mbps down easy... I use lte mainly so i can stream youtube in hd instead of hq!
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HSDPA. 1 operator is just beginning to roll out 4G in the major cities here in Belgium, so no choice
And I don't think the LTE chip works here anyway.
I used Edge at work. it streams better for me. Always has. Since iphone 3g. I think its the building I work in. Soon as I leave it, H+ works like it should.
At home I use Wireless and 4g
Soooooo I'm not the only one who is preferring 3G over 4G? Yay lol
I would barf in my mouth before I use 3g.
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Faux G aka HSPA+ (21.1 and 14.4) w/EB here as well.
My Provider has just HSPA+ 15 but I mostly hav HSPA+ 10. But that's no problem at all, because I'm used to it. At home (on Computer) I get just about 7 so I'm totally happy.
3G is broken... Once this thing connects top umts or hspa 10 there's no data transmission until it finds hspa+15 again...
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3g in Canada. 4g decimates my battery, which is already kind of disappointing personally.
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A mix of EDGE, 21, and 42 depending on where I am during my day.
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GPRS/EDGE by preference, no point wasting battery power attempting to connect to crappy 3G signal!
3G for me. I've tried 4G and while I like the speeds, my battery takes a considerable hit.
I live in Canada as well. I've only just started using 4G for the past few days (Rogers) and I think I'm going to be sticking with it. Data speeds have improved significantly. I don't seem to have that decrease in voice call quality that someone else mentioned and my battery life is actually not that much worse compared to 3G.
Technically, there is not a network in the US that's adhering to the actual 4G standard. Verizon's LTE may offer slightly better latency, and a better upload speed than T-Mobile, but your wallet will be taking a huge hit, and you'll only have 2GB of data for $110 after taxes and FCC fees. Is LTE really worth more than $100 a month? I don't think so.
I'm using T-Mobile's network and I'm very happy with the speeds. If T-Mobile is prevalent in your area, and you don't travel very often to remote areas, their $30 prepaid plan is definitely worth it. I'm witnessing over 22Mb down on the 42Mbps towers, and I'm averaging roughly 10Mb down everywhere else. I'm about 35 miles from a major urban city, btw.
My phone is showing 4G LTE icon with either full bars or close to it, yet my speeds are horrible. Speed test app would show like 0.29 Mbps on average. I've seen this phone reach high speeds like 39 Mbps elsewhere, but around here it's pretty bad. Data speeds would be slow or I get connection time out errors. During less busy times, I might sometimes reach 1-4 Mbps, but that's temporary. Is there something I could do to get some usable speeds? I remember back in tmo gs1 days, I could edit the build.prop with some lines and improved my speeds. I am on a 910T3 rooted phone with a custom rom on a DOK2 modem. Thank you.
They may working on tower close to you. Call tmo tech support and let them know. I remember when similar situation was going in my area, switching to 4g instead lte gave me faster download/upload speeds.
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They may working on tower close to you. Call tmo tech support and let them know. I remember when similar situation was going in my area, switching to 4g instead lte gave me faster download/upload speeds.
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They recently put up Extended Range LTE in my city, but the speeds/signal look like the same as before. I guess I'll contact them. Thanks.