So yeah, after a while and after many threads about what phone I should buy, I finally decided to get Incredible S
Going to buy it, there are two stores who are main sponsers of HTC in my place .. One sells the device out-of-the-box with Gingerbread, the other sells it with Froyo
I read somewhere that you can't S-Off the Incredible S with Gingerbread (Or it's more risky, don't remember what exactly) .. and it's easy with Froyo. I'm interested in rooting and custom ROMs since I prefer the Vanilla Android interface over any company UI (Sense included) .. so if I bought the device I'd probably stay with it for a week atleast before I flash a non-Sense ROM (Revolution, Cyanogen, be it)
Put yourself in my shoes, which version would you buy?
Thanks.
I did it all on GB 2.3 without any troubles. Running Android Revolution with sense add on.
Nex_1 said:
So yeah, after a while and after many threads about what phone I should buy, I finally decided to get Incredible S
Going to buy it, there are two stores who are main sponsers of HTC in my place .. One sells the device out-of-the-box with Gingerbread, the other sells it with Froyo
I read somewhere that you can't S-Off the Incredible S with Gingerbread (Or it's more risky, don't remember what exactly) .. and it's easy with Froyo. I'm interested in rooting and custom ROMs since I prefer the Vanilla Android interface over any company UI (Sense included) .. so if I bought the device I'd probably stay with it for a week atleast before I flash a non-Sense ROM (Revolution, Cyanogen, be it)
Put yourself in my shoes, which version would you buy?
Thanks.
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Correct me if i am wrong, but I thought the first batches of the incredible S. Thus the 2.2 versions had a different manufacturer for the S LCD displays. A better one. So I would google that en then make the decission..
Nex_1 said:
So yeah, after a while and after many threads about what phone I should buy, I finally decided to get Incredible S
Going to buy it, there are two stores who are main sponsers of HTC in my place .. One sells the device out-of-the-box with Gingerbread, the other sells it with Froyo
I read somewhere that you can't S-Off the Incredible S with Gingerbread (Or it's more risky, don't remember what exactly) .. and it's easy with Froyo. I'm interested in rooting and custom ROMs since I prefer the Vanilla Android interface over any company UI (Sense included) .. so if I bought the device I'd probably stay with it for a week atleast before I flash a non-Sense ROM (Revolution, Cyanogen, be it)
Put yourself in my shoes, which version would you buy?
Thanks.
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I don't believe there has been a GB 2.3.3 release for the IncS that is not rootable at this time using http://revolutionary.io.
for me it was quiete difficult to s-off, i had to downgrade to stock ruu and do all kind of other things. i think its easier with 2.2.
when i think about it, with my desire it was done in 10min to root and s-off.
My Inc S came with 2.3.3 and sense 2.1 - I rooted no problem and am running CM7
There are no additional steps to root 2.3.3
Really?
Nex_1 said:
So yeah, after a while and after many threads about what phone I should buy, I finally decided to get Incredible S
Going to buy it, there are two stores who are main sponsers of HTC in my place .. One sells the device out-of-the-box with Gingerbread, the other sells it with Froyo
I read somewhere that you can't S-Off the Incredible S with Gingerbread (Or it's more risky, don't remember what exactly) .. and it's easy with Froyo. I'm interested in rooting and custom ROMs since I prefer the Vanilla Android interface over any company UI (Sense included) .. so if I bought the device I'd probably stay with it for a week atleast before I flash a non-Sense ROM (Revolution, Cyanogen, be it)
Put yourself in my shoes, which version would you buy?
Thanks.
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I don't believe this is a fair enough question to ask! You should ask yourself which interface you desire most in using Android device? Is it Froyo or Gingerbread?
If you leave this question to me to answer, I would tell you it doesn't matter, cause buying HTC device is never a problem. Why? because you can always find more tewaks and developments for such devices. You just have to choose a good processor (1 Ghz or more) device with a quiet good size of RAM (512 or above).
Cheers
Re-thought this... You'd have to install a new radio going from froyo to gingerbread so if you don't want to spend the 30 seconds doing that or if your an idiot go 2.3.
Recommend 2.3
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Hi,
I recently switched from a Xperia X10 to the Nexus One due to the lack of update from Sony Ericsson.
We can't unlock the bootloader the X10 so even if I flashed a lot of custom rom and root ect... It's my first time with kernels ect...
So I was wondering on how the kernel is important and if I well understood, he is the one that will put the driver for the hardware as it's the one that can increase audio and put 720p ect..
And I also see a lots of threads about radios ect... I totally understood how to flash it ect.. but what is it exactly ? Is it like a better frequence for your antenna or ??
I'm currently running kernel version : [email protected] and baseband version : 32.24.00.22U_4.03.00.21_2 and I have Passion Recovery.
Could you please indicate me a good combo of kernel/radio/rom that would give me 720p, running at least Froyo or Gingerbread (for flash) and that is stable with a good linpack/quadrant score.
Thanks in advance,
Zyryck
Simplest thing for you, CyanogenMod 6. It is FroYo, has the audio mod and 720p camera kernel. And you should already have the best Radio.
There is no reason to really mix and match stuff at all. The state of the development scene isn't that way anymore.
Some people do fiddle with kernels and Korean radios and such, but they do it because they like doing that sort of thing, not because they have to.
90% do not have to worry about those things. Install CyanogenMod 6 or some of the other popular mods in the development section and you should be happy.
Don't worry about the individual parts until you get used to things, and even then it won't be needed, just a hobby.
Ok thank you it is certainly what I'll take. But Cyan 6 or 6.1 ?
But I still don't know why Radios stand for.
And yes I'm one of those Guys that will flash to another roms every 2 Days but since Nexus S and new Phones are out I know Devs are leaving Nexus One so that's why I was asking forr a fast and a stable one.
So I'd just like to know what's the Radio ?
The radio is hardware/software that deals with the communications side of your phone. GPRS/HSDPA/WiFi etc.
That's what I was thinking about but then what are the differences between a radio on an other one ? Are there some faster than others ?
Plus Radios are generic ? It doesn't depend from your Carrier or Country
zyryck said:
That's what I was thinking about but then what are the differences between a radio on an other one ? Are there some faster than others ?
Plus Radios are generic ? It doesn't depend from your Carrier or Country
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If you're go to run Froyo you'll be required to update your radio to 32.50.00.32U_5.12.00.08.
prettyboy85712 said:
If you're go to run Froyo you'll be required to update your radio to 32.50.00.32U_5.12.00.08.
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Well I'm running 2.2.1 with 32.24.00.22U_4.03.00.21_2.
Should I update it to the one you said because I don't see anything going wrong. Except perhaps that when I connect to internet without Wifi it's written 2G but when I had my X10 it was either 3G or H so I don't know if it is related or not since I've only been able to connect to 2G with the Nexus even when it was not rooted and flashed to any rom, radio or kernel
Wild monks have pretty good kernels but I have no idea about what radio to choose cuz theres literally a lot of them. I just get really confused with them and
Still looking for a good radio tho.lol. But cyan mod is freaking awesome. Combined with inexus theme and it's the best ui interface I can find. plus I have swype too so I'm not going to give up my nexus any time soon until tegra 2 phones arrive
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
I'm gonna wait before putting my hands on the Atrix and other tegra 2 phones because I want to see if there won't be any problem with the bootloader ect... Because getting stuck with a device that can't get bl unlocked is very very frustrating.
prettyboy85712 said:
If you're go to run Froyo you'll be required to update your radio to 32.50.00.32U_5.12.00.08.
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That's actually not true.
There's no need to be messing with your radio unless you are having a specific problem. If your custom ROM requires a certain Radio to work, it will probably be included in the package anyway.
Flashing custom ROMS is almost completely safe but flashing Radios can lead to a bricked device in short-order.
i was fooling around at Desire dev threads,where is found this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940&highlight=sense+3.0
as a nexus one owner really i'm jealous that non dev phone gets cool rom than we can easily have.
Can any one port this rom to our beloved nexus?
Yeap, it's right here. Link
There is alot more variety of roms in the desire dev section, this is probably because its a more popular phone and just as easily modded like the n1.
Even CM7 is more stable on desire, no wonk etc...
The sense roms are more feature complete and stable as well.
The time is soon where the N1 would have to be given up for people who needs these ROMS. Nobody will support it after awhile ):
jnrandall said:
Yeap, it's right here. Link
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i did flashed that rom but it has two things
1. it got glitches as it says it has
2. no arabic support
and the weirdest thing happened that it gave me an error ( no space left) on flashing it the second time !!!!!!!!!!
anyhow thanks for you reply
I just got a captivate last night and i have unlocked and and rooted it
it has a firmware of 2.1 - update 1
idk if thats the most recent update
i was told i can not update the phone with a t-mobile sim card in it so can anyone post a thread on updated versions and what do you all think is the best rom?
THANKS
There is no "best" rom. It's what's "best" for you. Read the forums and learn to flash 2.2 roms first.
I must warn you, flashing becomes very addictive.
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Yea i know i have a sidekick 4g and ive tried about every rom on it
thanks for the info though
Tyler0309 said:
Yea i know i have a sidekick 4g and ive tried about every rom on it
thanks for the info though
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I recommend trying MIUI, the customization is what puts it over the top!
Here are a few different versions of MIUI:
Galnet**What I prefer**
http://www.galnetmiui.co.uk/twooey/v3/Twooey-V3-i897.zip
Prototypes release
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066885
MIUI.us
http://roms.miui.us/1.8.12/MIUI.us_captivatemtd_1.8.12_Eng_Deo_ZipA_Signed.zip
Ok ill give it a try..do i have to update to a different version> im running 2.1 right now
Tyler0309 said:
Ok ill give it a try..do i have to update to a different version> im running 2.1 right now
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I've not been on 2.1 since phone came out. I would use odin one click to goto 2.2 stock. Root it then install cwm and then follow this guide if your going to try Galnet's MIUI.
http://www.galnetmiui.co.uk/content/forum/guides/(guide)-i897-galaxy-s-captivate-gb-bootloaders/
Then just pop the MIUI.zip on root of sdcard and install from CWM.
Tyler0309 said:
I just got a captivate last night and i have unlocked and and rooted it
it has a firmware of 2.1 - update 1
idk if thats the most recent update
i was told i can not update the phone with a t-mobile sim card in it so can anyone post a thread on updated versions and what do you all think is the best rom?
THANKS
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Wow... so... You should probably READ a lot more before flashing anything, but I'll give you a few hints to get you going:
1) Make sure you understand what a "PBL", "SBL", "Kernel", and "Modem" are and how they are placed/installed in your phone.
2) Learn how to correctly and safely use ODIN (and/or Heimdall).
3) Learn about the various methods of recovery for "soft bricks", and if necessary for your hardware revision, possibly invest in a jig (also learn what a jig is)
4) There are 2 different types/branches of ROMs for the Captivate:
-- Samsung Branch
-- AOSP Branch
Within the "Samsung" types you have:
- i9000 ROMs (like JVP, JVR, JP8, etc)
- i897 ROMs (like JF6, KF1, etc)
Within the "AOSP" types you have:
- CM7
- MIUI
- Other AOSP-based ROMs
Which is "better" is relative. CM7 and MIUI have features that aren't present in the Samsung ROMs, and both offer a bit more customization than the Samsung ROMs. However, only the Samsung ROMs offer GPU accelerated video playback, and they tend to have significantly better battery life than the AOSP-type ROMs. Also the Samsung-type ROMs used to be much more stable than the AOSP branches, but recently, the tide may have turned in the other direction. Some of the low-level radio settings are also unavailable in any of the AOSP builds. And finally, some of the Samsung stock camera features are unavailable in CM7/MIUI.
It really all depends what you want... Do you want closer to stock "open source" Android? Or do you want Samsung's vision of what they think Android should be?
Also, the whole kernel/modem part is dependent on what branch of ROM you plan on running. When using a i9000-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i9000 kernel and modem. When using a i897-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i897 kernel and modem. The rules for CM7/MIUI are a bit more vague, but at the very least you'll need to use a CM7/MIUI (most AOSP-type kernels are interchangeable) compatible kernel.
The best advice is really to try them all out and see what you like the most. If you're currently on stock 2.1 (which it sounds like you are), at the very least you should upgrade to some variant of Gingerbread (2.3.4 preferably). You will definitely notice a big difference in terms of speed and functionality. From there, well, it's all really up to you...
OR alternatively, just start throwing stuff on your phone and see what happens. Just PLEASE don't come crying back in the Captivate General forum with a "OMG I bricked my phone!!! Plz help!!!" thread. Fair warning...
Just a suggestion, but become familiar with Odin one click. Make sure your captivate has 3 button recovery, and read, re- read, and read again the directions of every rom before you flash it. Always make a nandroid back up if possible, and read the threads.if you have questions, so did someone else and the answer is probably already out there .use search. Some People will rip your head off if you don't. as far as miui goes .....i was a flashaholic when I got phone. After switching to miui, It is very unlikely that I will ever leave. Best rom ever imho. And it updates every Friday so that satisfied the flashing urge. Usually it gets better with each release. The last couple have been a little rough though. Might want to spend the 8 bucks and have a download jig on standby. Can get it from mobiltech videos. Its worth it though
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Shammyh said:
Wow... so... You should probably READ a lot more before flashing anything, but I'll give you a few hints to get you going:
1) Make sure you understand what a "PBL", "SBL", "Kernel", and "Modem" are and how the are placed/installed in your phone.
2) Learn how to correctly and safely use ODIN (and/or Heimdall).
3) Learn about the various methods of recovery for "soft bricks", and if necessary for your hardware revision, possibly invest in a jig (also learn what a jig is)
4) There are 2 different types/branches of ROMs for the Captivate:
-- Samsung Branch
-- AOSP Branch
Within the "Samsung" types you have:
- i9000 ROMs (like JVP, JVR, JP8, etc)
- i897 ROMs (like JF6, KF1, etc)
Within the "AOSP" types you have:
- CM7
- MIUI
- Other AOSP-based ROMs
Which is "better" is relative. CM7 and MIUI have features that aren't present in the Samsung ROMs, and both offer a bit more customization than the Samsung ROMs. However, only the Samsung ROMs offer GPU accelerated video playback, and they tend to have significantly better battery life than the AOSP-type ROMs. Also the Samsung-type ROMs used to be much more stable than the AOSP branches, but recently, the tide may have turned in the other direction. Some of the low-level radio settings are also unavailable in any of the AOSP builds. And finally, some of the Samsung stock camera features are unavailable in CM7/MIUI.
It really all depends what you want... Do you want closer to stock "open source" Android? Or do you want Samsung's vision of what they think Android should be?
Also, the whole kernel/modem part is dependent on what branch of ROM you plan on running. When using a i9000-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i9000 kernel and modem. When using a i897-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i897 kernel and modem. The rules for CM7/MIUI are a bit more vague, but at the very least you'll need to use a CM7/MIUI (most AOSP-type kernels are interchangeable) compatible kernel.
The best advice is really to try them all out and see what you like the most. If you're currently on stock 2.1 (which it sounds like you are), at the very least you should upgrade to some variant of Gingerbread (2.3.4 preferably). You will definitely notice a big difference in terms of speed and functionality. From there, well, it's all really up to you...
OR alternatively, just start throwing stuff on your phone and see what happens. Just PLEASE don't come crying back in the Captivate General forum with a "OMG I bricked my phone!!! Plz help!!!" thread. Fair warning...
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Well said.
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Tyler0309 said:
I just got a captivate last night and i have unlocked and and rooted it
it has a firmware of 2.1 - update 1
idk if thats the most recent update
i was told i can not update the phone with a t-mobile sim card in it so can anyone post a thread on updated versions and what do you all think is the best rom?
THANKS
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a very simple and easy way to start with...
2.1 is eclair..
2.2 froyo
2.3 gingerbread..
means 2.1 is oldest and 2.3 is latest in case of official roms..
so obviously new version will hav more features and faster in speed...
so now u can take baby step and install 2.2 ..and use it for few days..and get the feel of it..then again after sometime u can install 2.3...
or else u can directly jump to 2.3....which is gingerbread....u can install stock kf1 on ur phone..its leaked official gb...if u search a bit..u will get it..
then u can use it for a lil while and get the feel of gb stock rom..in the meanwhile u can read xda abt available custom roms..and then install any of them...
coz every memeber here in xda will suggest the custom rom they r using..coz they r lovin the rom then only they r using....like for me..since the time i started flashin..i always used APEX ROM..so i will say its the best....
but again thats just me..
so decision is always urs...
So, I see that there is a 2.1 update for the HTC Hero CDMA from Sprint and I'm very interested in upgrading to be able to use some of the better software out there that doesn't work on 1.5.
The thing is, I finally managed to fix this phone from a bad rooting procedure (it's a used phone, the previous owner rooted it using who-knows-what method and ROM, which caused the wifi to stop working) after spending weeks on the problem and finally have a good, fully-functional phone. So, now, I'm a bit paranoid about any rooting or upgrade procedure, though I suspect and official update from a Sprint shouldn't cause a problem.
I'm also considering doing a basic rooting (no custom ROM) so I can boot into ClockworkMod Recovery and make a complete backup, but, again, I'm very leery about it.
Is there any possibility that rooting, in and of itself, could cause the wifi to stop working or was it that the specific ROM that was installed didn't have the right wifi driver?
epp_b said:
So, I see that there is a 2.1 update for the HTC Hero CDMA from Sprint and I'm very interested in upgrading to be able to use some of the better software out there that doesn't work on 1.5.
The thing is, I finally managed to fix this phone from a bad rooting procedure (it's a used phone, the previous owner rooted it using who-knows-what method and ROM, which caused the wifi to stop working) after spending weeks on the problem and finally have a good, fully-functional phone. So, now, I'm a bit paranoid about any rooting or upgrade procedure, though I suspect and official update from a Sprint shouldn't cause a problem.
I'm also considering doing a basic rooting (no custom ROM) so I can boot into ClockworkMod Recovery and make a complete backup, but, again, I'm very leery about it.
Is there any possibility that rooting, in and of itself, could cause the wifi to stop working or was it that the specific ROM that was installed didn't have the right wifi driver?
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Dude there are literally thousands of people running custom roms flawlessly ....taking that in to consideration, what do you think the answer to your question is? Lol for liability purposes we all have to say "there's a risk" but my 11 year old sister rooted her evo and flashed cm7 without any help
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Fair enough, the custom ROM that was used must have been a crappy one.
epp_b said:
Fair enough, the custom ROM that was used must have been a crappy one.
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Well we've had some that had broken wifi long ago but really you probably just could've flashed a new working kernel over it and the problem would be gone. If you wanna stay stock-ish I'd recommend fresh 2.1 but if you wanna really see it fly flash kush-deck gb. Flash the. 29 kernel after you boot and you will never regret it
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Thanks, I'll check those out sometime. Have you got links for them?
Believe me, you don't want the stock Sprint 2.1 on your Hero. It's terrible. Super slow and it freezes constantly. I ran it for a short time after Sprint released it and that's when I decided to root. If I remember correctly you also can't put your apps on the SD card with it which really limits how many apps you can install.
I am running CyanogenMod 6.0 Froyo with ADW Launcher (built into the Rom) and its snappy and reliable but still has a lot of the bells and whistles. Try Beautiful Widgets and you can have a homescreen clock with animated weather just like the HTC Sense homescreen.
I tried CM 6.1.1 recently (updated froyo with new features) but it used more internal memory than 6.0 which made my phone laggy.
Be sure to get the appropriate Google apps zip file with the new Market
Sent from my HTC Hero running CM6 RC1 with the XDA app
what's 2.1?
Android Eclair. 2.2 is Froyo
Sent from my HTC Hero running CM6 RC1 with the XDA app
I managed to find some of the software I was looking for and I'm actually pretty happy to run 1.5; I actually find it quite usable.
Basic info about my device:
Model : HTC Incredible S
Android Version : 4.0.4
HTC sense version : 3.6
Software number : 4.12.720.1
I have started to feel that my phone is getting slow and I read about the benefits of rooting. So, I am planning to root my device. While going through the online tutorials, I came to know that once I root it, I won't get updates from HTC and there are also some risks of ending up with a bricked phone. Some posts said that after the recent android update, the old methods of rooting won't work.
Can someone please post a link or method of rooting my device in easiest way possible? I'd also like to know whether android version/looks will remain same after rooting? As per posts, I won't be able to get HTC updates. What are my options of staying updated in case my device supports new android versions? I kinda like the UI of my phone. Is it possible to root my phone without altering anything else?
Detailed answers would be better.
zwitter said:
Basic info about my device:
Model : HTC Incredible S
Android Version : 4.0.4
HTC sense version : 3.6
Software number : 4.12.720.1
I have started to feel that my phone is getting slow and I read about the benefits of rooting. So, I am planning to root my device. While going through the online tutorials, I came to know that once I root it, I won't get updates from HTC and there are also some risks of ending up with a bricked phone. Some posts said that after the recent android update, the old methods of rooting won't work.
Can someone please post a link or method of rooting my device in easiest way possible? I'd also like to know whether android version/looks will remain same after rooting? As per posts, I won't be able to get HTC updates. What are my options of staying updated in case my device supports new android versions? I kinda like the UI of my phone. Is it possible to root my phone without altering anything else?
Detailed answers would be better.
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There won't be any more updates from HTC that's for sure. I mean I once read that HTC plans on stopping the One X after 4.2.2. I think HTC was already extremely generous to give us 4.0.4. Besides, Sense 3.6 is the crappy version of Sense 4 anyways and Sense 4 looks nicer in almost every aspect in my opinion.
Rooting is as basic unlocking the bootloader via HTCdev.com and flashing a custom recovery. However, you will notice that some people have something called S-OFF. Unlike just unlocking the bootloader (which still leaves S-ON), S-OFF grants you permission to certain parts of a particular partition (which I don't seem to remember but what I say here should be enough) and in that way, you do not need to flash the boot.img within each custom ROM (which is probably, the biggest limitation of leaving your phone at S-ON). This is quite a bit to swallow but you'll understand more as you go along rooting and flashing custom ROM plus a bit of Google searching on the side.
As for guides, look at the top of the General Section (you're in it right now!) and everything that's labelled [GUIDE] should be good to use.
To answer the last question, yes it is possible to root the phone and leaving everything as is although there is absolutely no point in doing so. Unlocking the bootloader WILL WIPE your phone clean (ie game data, sms, call logs.....). It would be best to just start fresh. If you are so intent on staying on Sense 3.6, then I would recommend you to either Android Revolution HD or Blackout ROM which you can find more information on in the Android Development section.
072665995 said:
There won't be any more updates from HTC that's for sure. I mean I once read that HTC plans on stopping the One X after 4.2.2. I think HTC was already extremely generous to give us 4.0.4. Besides, Sense 3.6 is the crappy version of Sense 4 anyways and Sense 4 looks nicer in almost every aspect in my opinion.
Rooting is as basic unlocking the bootloader via HTCdev.com and flashing a custom recovery. However, you will notice that some people have something called S-OFF. Unlike just unlocking the bootloader (which still leaves S-ON), S-OFF grants you permission to certain parts of a particular partition (which I don't seem to remember but what I say here should be enough) and in that way, you do not need to flash the boot.img within each custom ROM (which is probably, the biggest limitation of leaving your phone at S-ON). This is quite a bit to swallow but you'll understand more as you go along rooting and flashing custom ROM plus a bit of Google searching on the side.
As for guides, look at the top of the General Section (you're in it right now!) and everything that's labelled [GUIDE] should be good to use.
To answer the last question, yes it is possible to root the phone and leaving everything as is although there is absolutely no point in doing so. Unlocking the bootloader WILL WIPE your phone clean (ie game data, sms, call logs.....). It would be best to just start fresh. If you are so intent on staying on Sense 3.6, then I would recommend you to either Android Revolution HD or Blackout ROM which you can find more information on in the Android Development section.
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Thanks for the reply.
Well, I gave a thought and I don't plan to stick to the sense 3.6 looks coz sense 4 will definitely be better. Can you suggest a good ROM for me? I have heard about Cyanogen Mod. What's your opinion regarding that? They have provided full tutorial for flashing their recent ROM. Does that also mean that I will get the superuser access or do I need to do something extra?
zwitter said:
Thanks for the reply.
Well, I gave a thought and I don't plan to stick to the sense 3.6 looks coz sense 4 will definitely be better. Can you suggest a good ROM for me? I have heard about Cyanogen Mod. What's your opinion regarding that? They have provided full tutorial for flashing their recent ROM. Does that also mean that I will get the superuser access or do I need to do something extra?
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Well, if you want so stick with Sense, you should try out ViperVIVO and Nik's Project X best Sense Based ROMs I know
Gizmo648 said:
Well, if you want so stick with Sense, you should try out ViperVIVO and Nik's Project X best Sense Based ROMs I know
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I was looking for some ROMs and this one caught my eye. CyanVIVO 10.1
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245794
What do you suggest? Which one is better?
zwitter said:
I was looking for some ROMs and this one caught my eye. CyanVIVO 10.1
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245794
What do you suggest? Which one is better?
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I never tried this one, i thought you want to use Sense?
zwitter said:
I was looking for some ROMs and this one caught my eye. CyanVIVO 10.1
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245794
What do you suggest? Which one is better?
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Depends on what you're looking for really. CyanVivo10.1 is Android 4.2.2. Id say I'm only using CyanVivo10.1 for the sole purpose of having a theme engine plus theres always more free RAM on AOSP ROMs which Id like since multitasking its pretty essential to me.
However in terms of battery and overall performance Id have to ViperVivo is best. Nik Project_X_Rebirth is also a very good choice but the lock screen ticks me off -.- My favourite Sense ROM is either Blackout or KingCobra although the latter has had reports of not booting past the splash screen for a number of people.
I don't think HTC is generous when it comes to sending updates. There's no official JB release for the Sensation. The Galaxy S2 got it though. Typical HTC...
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zukri90 said:
I don't think HTC is generous when it comes to sending updates. There's no official JB release for the Sensation. The Galaxy S2 got it though. Typical HTC...
Sent from one of the surviving Incredible S phones of the past
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Has it ever occured to you that the S II probably has a CPU that natively supports ion?? And that's why they have Jellybean where as the Sensation does not?? HTC isn't gonna work their bums off to get a device to support ion when they have the newer phones such as the HOX and the One.
072665995 said:
Has it ever occured to you that the S II probably has a CPU that natively supports ion?? And that's why they have Jellybean where as the Sensation does not?? HTC isn't gonna work their bums off to get a device to support ion when they have the newer phones such as the HOX and the One.
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All I know is HTC's customer service is not as good as Samsung's.
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zwitter said:
Basic info about my device:
Model : HTC Incredible S
Android Version : 4.0.4
HTC sense version : 3.6
Software number : 4.12.720.1
I have started to feel that my phone is getting slow and I read about the benefits of rooting. So, I am planning to root my device. While going through the online tutorials, I came to know that once I root it, I won't get updates from HTC and there are also some risks of ending up with a bricked phone. Some posts said that after the recent android update, the old methods of rooting won't work.
Can someone please post a link or method of rooting my device in easiest way possible? I'd also like to know whether android version/looks will remain same after rooting? As per posts, I won't be able to get HTC updates. What are my options of staying updated in case my device supports new android versions? I kinda like the UI of my phone. Is it possible to root my phone without altering anything else?
Detailed answers would be better.
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okay, after reading your statement, I have to tell you a thing, rooting out HTC IncS which running on Android 4.0.4+Sense 3.6 is impossible (guys, correct me if I'm wrong) If you want to root it, you have to downgrade it back to Android 2.3.5, which is a VERY troublesome thing.. here's a guide might help you understand something about rooting our HTC IncS! >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987687
jacksonpang said:
okay, after reading your statement, I have to tell you a thing, rooting out HTC IncS which running on Android 4.0.4+Sense 3.6 is impossible (guys, correct me if I'm wrong) If you want to root it, you have to downgrade it back to Android 2.3.5, which is a VERY troublesome thing.. here's a guide might help you understand something about rooting our HTC IncS! >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987687
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rooting and S-OFF are not the same thing. Rooting is just unlock bootloader and flash custom recovery. That is certainly possible on any android OS. S-OFF on the other hand, you need to downgrade back to 2.3.3 (in order to get HBOOT 1.13) and then run revolutionary to get S-OFF
jacksonpang said:
okay, after reading your statement, I have to tell you a thing, rooting out HTC IncS which running on Android 4.0.4+Sense 3.6 is impossible (guys, correct me if I'm wrong) If you want to root it, you have to downgrade it back to Android 2.3.5, which is a VERY troublesome thing.. here's a guide might help you understand something about rooting our HTC IncS! >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987687
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Sorry, but it is possible to gain root access on the HTC ICS/Sense 3.6 ROM without the downgrading option that you referenced.
Unlocking the bootloader using the procedure at HTCDEV.com will allow you to install a custom recovery such as CWM or 4EXT and then you can flash SuperSu which will allow apps to request root access. With a custom recovery in place, a user can also flash a custom ROM, but the drawback is that /boot partition is mounted R/O in recovery mode, so you manually have to flash the boot.img of the custom ROM in FASTBOOT USB mode.
Gaining S-OFF is another form of 'unlocking' the bootloader and giving you full access to all of the partitions as well as the radio. S-OFF by itself does not necessarily provide your apps with root access. That is dependent on the ROM that is installed.
072665995 said:
rooting and S-OFF are not the same thing. Rooting is just unlock bootloader and flash custom recovery. That is certainly possible on any android OS. S-OFF on the other hand, you need to downgrade back to 2.3.3 (in order to get HBOOT 1.13) and then run revolutionary to get S-OFF
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Oops, yes, you're right! S-off would need to roll back to Gingerbread, while rooting doesn't need. I mixed it up :silly:
zwitter said:
I was looking for some ROMs and this one caught my eye. CyanVIVO 10.1
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245794
What do you suggest? Which one is better?
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CyanVIVO 10.1 is amazingly fast and smooth. Although, don't expect the same battery life as sense, as cm is not optimized for or phone.
If you want sense, Nik Rebirth is pretty good.
I personally hate sense as it is ugly, but it has its benefits such as battery life and more widgets.
Gizmo648 said:
Well, if you want so stick with Sense, you should try out ViperVIVO and Nik's Project X best Sense Based ROMs I know
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Don't go for ViperVIVO because
a) The download link has been removed
b) And even if you do find the link somehow, Team Venom have officially stopped supporting or device, so don't expect any updates soon.
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LamboBull said:
CyanVIVO 10.1 is amazingly fast and smooth. Although, don't expect the same battery life as sense, as cm is not optimized for or phone.
If you want sense, Nik Rebirth is pretty good.
I personally hate sense as it is ugly, but it has its benefits such as battery life and more widgets.
Don't go for ViperVIVO because
a) The download link has been removed
b) And even if you do find the link somehow, Team Venom have officially stopped supporting or device, so don't expect any updates soon.
Click thanks if I helped you out!
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Uh no, the download link is still there. Nevertheless its still a great ROM with virtually no bugs so the only thing you could be improving is battery life and performance and if you still want more then you would be very greedy to do so because it already performs well in both.
072665995 said:
However in terms of battery and overall performance Id have to ViperVivo is best. Nik Project_X_Rebirth is also a very good choice but the lock screen ticks me off -.- My favourite Sense ROM is either Blackout or KingCobra although the latter has had reports of not booting past the splash screen for a number of people.
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lol I never got king cobra to boot
About lockscreen: push the lockscreen from a previous version and fusion.apk cause that is where the lock ring hides. I am not a fan of the new layout either so that is what I did
zukri90 said:
I don't think HTC is generous when it comes to sending updates. There's no official JB release for the Sensation. The Galaxy S2 got it though. Typical HTC...
Sent from one of the surviving Incredible S phones of the past
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GS2 is like half done, yes its there but it is not very good. There are still UI elements from ICS and even GB and half the things stop working
072665995 said:
Has it ever occured to you that the S II probably has a CPU that natively supports ion?? And that's why they have Jellybean where as the Sensation does not?? HTC isn't gonna work their bums off to get a device to support ion when they have the newer phones such as the HOX and the One.
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Nup your argument doesn't work cause VilleC2 (One S with snapdragon s3) has JB Sense
It has the exact same chipset as the Sensation but runs at a higher clock. Its got a linux 3.4 kernel with JB Sense from HTC so it definitely supports it.
LamboBull said:
CyanVIVO 10.1 is amazingly fast and smooth. Although, don't expect the same battery life as sense, as cm is not optimized for or phone.
If you want sense, Nik Rebirth is pretty good.
I personally hate sense as it is ugly, but it has its benefits such as battery life and more widgets.
Don't go for ViperVIVO because
a) The download link has been removed
b) And even if you do find the link somehow, Team Venom have officially stopped supporting or device, so don't expect any updates soon.
Click thanks if I helped you out!
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I know that, but I still use the ROM, most customizable and Full sense :3
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium
072665995 said:
Uh no, the download link is still there. Nevertheless its still a great ROM with virtually no bugs so the only thing you could be improving is battery life and performance and if you still want more then you would be very greedy to do so because it already performs well in both.
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I see the links are still up. But I said that there are not going to be updates, which apart from improvements, include new features. Don't get too defensive bro
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