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I have about 5 email accts that my Tilt is checking every 30 minutes via internet. This drains alot of battery. I heard that there is a way to have the emails pushed to your Tilt, like the blackberry.
Is this a better option and where do you get it?
What are you guys running for your emails?
try mail2web.com (which will make your accounts Exchange type accounts) or Emoze.com (but I think this solution may require a computer to be on at all times to push... mail2web is probably more efficient.
hipertec said:
I have about 5 email accts that my Tilt is checking every 30 minutes via internet. This drains alot of battery. I heard that there is a way to have the emails pushed to your Tilt, like the blackberry.
Is this a better option and where do you get it?
What are you guys running for your emails?
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So instead of pull, you think push is more efficient? With pull the Tilt can be offline for 29 minutes at a time. Pull it's always online and chatting with the server.
I think you'll find that push email uses more battery.
I personally have all of my emails come into the same mail destination and are sorted into folders depending upon where they were destined to go. That way I'm only checking or looking at one mailbox. And I use Flexmail 4 with idle IMAP to get the emails instantly, but with reasonable battery life. I don't get a lot of emails, perhaps 50 a day, so most of my time is basically idling on the server, and it's around 5% battery an hour, vs .5% or so without Flexmail running, on 3G. It drops to around 2%/hr on EDGE.
So if you're on 3G, you might try EDGE. Of course if you do other things with the phone, EDGE is probably too slow.
What kind of battery life are you seeing? What percent of battery is it using an hour?
so r u saying that push emails like the blackberry and Seven is constantly connected to the net?
so y do people say that push is better?
if that is the case, I think my battery will be way worse than.
as for current bat life, ill have to check it out and report later.
From what I know there are 2 versions of push email:
1 - connect and wait for new mail (this isn't as powerhungry as you think, your connection is open but there generally will only be traffic as soon as new email is arrived or the connection is broken/re-initiated)
2 - SMS notification, your pda only makes a connection as soon as an SMS is received which states you received new email. This needs something more than just a software solution e.g. contract with an SMS provider)
I have noticed that only standard umts (no HSDPA) connection is a big power consumer. If you have HSDPA in your area, the kaiser seems to need much less energy to keep the connection open.
Im trying the SEVEN program rite now. To see how this works.
Anyone want to share their experience with the SEVEN? It seems to be a always connect type, so Im not sure how the battery life will be.
hipertec said:
Im trying the SEVEN program rite now. To see how this works.
Anyone want to share their experience with the SEVEN? It seems to be a always connect type, so Im not sure how the battery life will be.
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SEVEN is eating more memory in my S730 than Funambol, so I prefer Funambol more than SEVEN. SEVEN tends to connect immediately when you turn on your phone, so it would probably consumes more battery while you can choose different PUSH modes with Funambol.
I just downloaded SEVEN beta to try push emails to save battery since I have 6 accts to check. but I notice that its constantly connected to the net and that it takes about 5 minutes to receive emails. so if it takes 5 mins to receive and constantly connect to the net, I it really saving battery?
or did I do something wrong? with my regular email setup, I have it checking evey 30 minutes but kaisertweak will shut off the connection after 2 mins of no use.
should I go back?
I got my gmail mail+calander synced with my phone. Every 1 hour, on 3G.
With use of my mobile from 07:00 till like 20:00 my battery is around 70%. So i't ain't that bad just using Active Sync to sync with mailserver.
I am also find it's ok using Seven. Not much battery drainage.
hipertec said:
I just downloaded SEVEN beta to try push emails to save battery since I have 6 accts to check. but I notice that its constantly connected to the net and that it takes about 5 minutes to receive emails. so if it takes 5 mins to receive and constantly connect to the net, I it really saving battery?
or did I do something wrong? with my regular email setup, I have it checking evey 30 minutes but kaisertweak will shut off the connection after 2 mins of no use.
should I go back?
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What do you use for mail? I tried SEVEN briefly, but it didn't disconnect so I stopped using it.
What's the best app for checking emails every 4 or so hours that automatically disconnects right after it receives it?
Not quite answering your question, but I use this application http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501254 - I only need to check my new emails when I'm available to check my phone! So it works for me. Auto discon of data connection isn't built into the app (yet) but you can configure via either advance config or Kaisertweak - I forget which one to do so on sleep.
Uses the least battery possible then.....
Edit - I map the exe to long press of hardware button using AEButtons
I have been using Seven for a few weeks now and I am extremely happy with it. My emails are almost instant and I have 5 email accounts setup.
The battery life so far has been excellent, I am using a Touch Pro 2 and I can go the whole day with direct push with absolutely no problem. It integrates with the HTC interface wonderfully, I am honestly very impressed with this software and it exceeded my expectations for easy of use, functionality, and battey life.
Yes, I love Seven. I am using it for 1 year and it works so well. Just one problem you should aware of is that everytime you setup a new email account, it sends 1 sms to England. You can avoid that with some tricks. I posted this earlier here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5366428&postcount=140
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5486646&postcount=142
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Yes, I love Seven. I am using it for 1 year and it works so well. Just one problem you should aware of is that everytime you setup a new email account, it sends 1 sms to England. You can avoid that with some tricks. I posted this earlier here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5366428&postcount=140
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5486646&postcount=142
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Sweeet 2 cool tricks, Google Sync been a pain in the a** and haven't used SEVEN in about 2 years as only just got a decent data plan again, all working welll.
So i was just introduced to this program the other day. It works great, i get my e-mails on my phone just a few seconds later. It doesn't seem to lower my battery life much at all, and it was very easy to setup.
http://community.seven.com/main.php
register and download the beta. I've been using this for about 3 days and i've gotten about 50 e-mails through this service and i always check the times and it's never more than a minute later.
I would like to get a consensus about how well this works for others. I'm using Gmail and it forwards very fast.
UPDATE: Just wanted to add, do not install this if you have XpressMail installed on your device as they use some of the same files they both will become unusable.
before i try
how does it work?
is it constantly connected to data? or does it send as a text or what?
i knew i forgot something, i've got my Touch pro on a constant Edge connection with constant data enabled. I'm not 100% positive the data connection is needed but i think you do. Other Idle Imap apps, i've tried needed constant connection.
I've been using this for a while now and it does require a constant connection, but it is a lot less power hungry than other push solutions or even the native POP / IMAP connections. Seven basically creates e-mail accounts within the native messaging application, so there's no need to have an additional application. It allows you to setup multiple e-mail accounts to be pushed, including Google Apps.
And for those of us that change roms regularly, Seven saves your account information (sans passwords) so that you don't have to start from scratch everytime you flash a new rom.
One thing to note is that Seven is essentially in permanent beta, so there will be times when it goes down for upgrades, maintenance or bugs. But that doesn't happen very often and they are usually pretty good about communicating what is going on and when to expect a solution.
Been using this for a year and it's the best! Woohoo! I love this!
I tried emoze, pushconsilient, and web2mail. I like "SEVEN" out of all of them. I get my email on my phone before my outlook does on my pc.
Thanks!!
It's really COOL and i can now check the gmail and even the company mail (OWA)!
Very nice!!
does it do "better"then Emoze?
I use Emoze now for a year and i have no problem.
Does it use less more power?
i've just tested, but i like Emoze more then Seven.
Emoze connects een fast as seven, but now i get also mine appointpents ect. synced.
So i keep it with emoze.
Seven is the dev company that supplies AT&T with Good Mobile Messaging and such. They sell the product (serverside) to the Cell carriers, who inturn rebrand it and "sell/offer" the service to the carrier's susbcribers.
I have been using it for 3 years for multiple accounts... no more desktop redirectors.
It currently uses a data connection, but in the future it will work via SMS triggers
gr8 share thank you
A few days ago, I started using it for both my Gmail and my company mail (via OWA).
At first, it took a few minutes for new mail to show up in either. Now, I'm finding that new messages in my gmail are showing up almost instantly (under a minute at least), but work messages are taking between 5-15 minutes (I can confirm via the desktop that they are indeed in the inbox).
Anyone else see this sort of delay?
is this based on Exchange 2007 aka HTML emails? Doesn't seem to let me into the FAQ's before creating an account...
I use this service and i love it.
i'm glad to see so many people who support and use this App, and those of you who don't use it i recommend it.
I tried it for 2 days, I love it... However, since it used data constantsly, it heats up my device badly... so I uninstalled it.
Thanks for the share thou.
goes this get around the gmail issue where sent messages also appear as new unread emails?
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goes this get around the gmail issue where sent messages also appear as new unread emails?
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Seven does not have this problem. Additionally, the sent messages get saved in your sent folder on gmail.
pandaboyy said:
I tried it for 2 days, I love it... However, since it used data constantsly, it heats up my device badly... so I uninstalled it.
Thanks for the share thou.
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Do you keep HSDPA going? I keep it on an EDGE connection and i don't get much heat at all.
It's a shakey time for anyone who sees this thread to try it out, though. They did some sort of heavy maintenance Monday, and although their status updates say everything's back, I'm not sure it is. I'm seeing big delays in getting my gmail via imap through them. I suspect it will be worked out soon, though.
Hi folks, I am looking at a driod to replace my WM6.5 unit and up till now I have managed to avoid using anything that needed data, reason... I live in Australia and the telcos know how to charge for data like it was gold.
But as a LOT of the new apps and services require data then I have to look at the plans and make a stab based on expected monthly data usage...
I know, I know, how long is the piece of string......
What I am asking is can people give me a rough estimate of monthly data usage on any network with any apps enabled, I reckon with good and bad I can figure out what may be feasible for my selection.
email usage is light, web next to nothing (for now) and not sure about other services, I have wifi at home so would attempt updates and stuff there rather than OTA
Any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers
Hey
Well, not sure of my exact data usage, but it would be sure to increase 10 fold (it did for me at least coming from a blackberry). There is so much stuff that can be gained through apps that use data. Maybe you could tell us the various price ranges for the data plans and decide that way?
Aldo there are tons of apps that will monitor your data and give you alerts and such so the fear or unintentionnaly going over is slim.
Hope this helps.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Chopes said:
Hey
Well, not sure of my exact data usage, but it would be sure to increase 10 fold (it did for me at least coming from a blackberry). There is so much stuff that can be gained through apps that use data. Maybe you could tell us the various price ranges for the data plans and decide that way?
Aldo there are tons of apps that will monitor your data and give you alerts and such so the fear or unintentionnaly going over is slim.
Hope this helps.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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Thats the problem from my end, none of the telcos are helpful as such, they range from 200mb to 1gb but are ALL different in price, so one charges x for 200mb on y cap and another is double for the same 200mb but a different cap
So what I needed was someone to say what they do on an average month, 2mb, 20mb, 784mb, 3.2gb etc etc, this way i can figure out the cort/benefit ratio of cap/plan v's qouta and extras
It seems to me that many apps I use give my flexibility in this area. The main apps I use that download data are configurable of how often to check for updates. For example, I can set my weather widget to download new info anywhere from every 15 min to every couple hours. Also, syncing with gmail and other google services can be turned on and off so you could only have it on when on wifi. Twitter and Facebook apps also have settings to change how often you have them refresh the data. So if you don't use too many apps or just set all of them to only update manually you can limit your data usage by a lot.
OK, can I just ask people to actualy state
HOW MUCH DATA YOU USE PER MONTH
Thank you.
my first month, i have no idea how but i used 3.3gb.
every month after that has been around just under 1gb, except last month when i had to tether my laptop because my home internet was out for a week, the data for that month showed 1.2gb.
I have two widgets, facebook and twitter that sync about every 2-4 hours, i adjust them some times to sync less and i manually sync them if i want to read and am bored. I have newsrob which syncs my google reader articles, sometimes i have that sync every 4 hours sometimes fully manual. I have background data turned on almost all the time and gps turned on always updating my location with latitude, i have gmail and an exchange account syncing for work using ssl. i have last.fm scrobbling all the music i listen to and stream music with it occasionally, not all the time. i browse the web on it quite abit whiel sitting at home and watching movies with the girlfriend as well as look up random facts and other things i come across day to day.
let me know if you need any other input!
I use on average somewhere between 900mb and 1.2gb
Thats streaming Pandora most of the time I'm in my car, using GPS maybe 2-3 times a week and pretty heavy data usage in other ways (i.e web surfing and apps)
I don't do much tethering or downloading of large files. I have tethered a few times but nothing that I would call average.
I used to use about ~2 GB when just using it for Pandora, hulu, and browsing. Now I'm at around 7 GB since I tether.
For comparison, I used 65mb on my bb bold 9000 and now 1gb on my n1. Mostly because its so fast! I do not really stream. I only browse, email, chat and some videos. Its a lot of usage from just browsing
before froyo i ran about 1-1.5 gb a month, now ive tethered a lot and started listening to more music so im up to about 4 gb
silashack said:
OK, can I just ask people to actualy state
HOW MUCH DATA YOU USE PER MONTH
Thank you.
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billing cycle: 7/20 - 8/19
data used: 36Mb
txt (sms to you non american types ): 16
minutes: 13
what I'm using that is data intensive:
google maps- hourly, with two 2 hour driving trips using it
gmail - it pushes all emails
email - check every 15 minutes, two additional accounts
maverick pro - uses gps and data
pandora - no usage this cycle, i usally stream at work, and i'm on vacation this week
normally, if i use pandora, it's for 4-6 hours per day, at roughly 1Mb / 15 mintues
there, hopefully you'll have an idea what a typical nexus user will burn through in a billing period.
I have a 500mb plan, and to date (over a year) I've only come close to that once.
I have Twitter refreshing every 10 minutes, GMail push, Email every 15, and Facebook every 30. Plus some web browsing (of relatively light sites). No video or audio streaming.
On average I'm around 250mb a month now, because we have no wifi at work. When I was in school (wifi on campus, and at home), I never went over 100mb. Usually less than 50.
~600MB monthly.
It consists of me tethering the laptop on the way to work and back ~2 hours a day, mostly. When I didn't use it and just surfed for fun, I'd get ~150MB monthly. When I didn't surf at all, the data apps put me at ~40MB monthly. I'm using Gmail, Gtalk and several smaller-scale apps like Astrid.
THANK YOU THANK YOU to those that actualy posted figures, the plans over here are rather stringent and no way could you support some of the figures you have indicated without incurring signifiacnt costs, I now have an idea that data costs are a priority something I have to factor in to the overall package, and unless the telco has an unlimited plan I have to read the fine print for excess charges VERY clearly.
Thank you once again
I hovered around 7-11gb a month when I was on att wireless. Their footprints issue great in Miami. I swapped to T-Mobile and they suck. Its horrible. I hardly ever touch my phone now. And it shows! I now hover around 300mb-800mb
Hello Everyone
i got very big bill from Bell Canada for Packed data useage. i dont know how i reach to so much data when i have wireless at both home and work. i saw the billl and those time either i am home or at work and some time even phone is idle. buse its says like i used 2 hours and those at my work, how can i used 2 hours at workkkkk.
please help me if anybody have any idea or there is any apps for track mobile data used. or there is any thing that we can stop using mobile data when we are on wireless..
thanks in advance
Samir
if you are on 2.1 eclair use 3G watchdog
if you are on 2.2 froyo use 3G watchdog + TrafficStats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765081
3G watchdog is very accurate it shows exactly the same as my FIDO account tracks
if you do not have a 6GB or unlimited data package, turn off the APN
download the APN on/off switch on the topic i linked above
Thank you so much for fast reply.....
i have 6 gb plan and last month i reach to 11 GB as per their bill. some of long useage even in night when i sleeping.
pls help
11 GB ?!?!?! i think Bell is BSing you some how.
I'm a download freak, i do 100 MB daily at least (Market Updates), and i come no where close to my 6GB data plan
then i have roughly 15 email / contacts account sync
and my DropBox account
and some times i torrent TV series (300Mb~400Mb) to watch in my phone when i'm on the go and don't have access to my home computer
and all that doesn't break past my 6GB.... i've no clue if Bell is accurate or not.
but assuming they are right... then you better check for malware or stuff like that installed by accident in your phone.
as in like all your stuff is being send off to some place in the background without your knowledge.
(just me being paranoid)
if you install Froyo you can then use TrafficStats
and if will tell you exactly which App is doing all the sending/receiving that is wasting your 6GB account
you are right, i am very surprise tooo and the thing is i have wireless internet at home and work. this all charges in purticular one week Oct 21 to Oct 28 otherwise all ok. for that week like 1000,400,300, 500 mb lots of time. do you think i should call bell and findout about that..
Is there anything that can give me kind of log or something that i can find what really happened in that week and my wireless internet was all the time.
thanks for your help