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[Q] Suggestions on a new phone for tethering the NC?

Been on Verizon for several years without problems. Have used several types of phones up to now (Motorola Krave ZN4). As the NC most likely will not enjoy the benefits of 3G (or 4G) the logical solution is phone upgrade to allow a good consistent tether when WiFi is unavailable.
So, any suggestions based on experience on type/brand/model phone compatible with Verizon service? What to look for? Tethering protocols?
thanks

Any phone with Android+root+Wifi+adhoc support should work. just choose if u need 3g or 4g.

basically what he just said. I have a Droid 1 and (with a "fix") am able to tether no problem with it, and that's the first android 2.0 device. I know Droid X works fine, and any other android really should work fine as long as its, as he said, rootable (basically) 4G will cost you more monthly (I think 10 more) but is faster, 3g is good enough IMO.

Any will do, I use an evo but they all get the job done

how about iphone4?
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iphone4 would work, but it would also need to be rooted/jailbroken, and the iphone community is different from android, everything costs money (including tethering apps) and it's not as free for all happy sharing open...

Tethering from the iPhone4 can be done without needing to pay anything, and that is through bluetooth. But..:
Iphone may already work through PAN/Bluetooth, with a few commands (automated through gscript?). But current kernels do not allow DUN connections.
Thus, tethering from an iphone4 using bluetooth/PAN only allows browser app and a few other apps (gmail?) to connect to the internet.. For a complete connection, you would need DUN. I think it has already been requested. But of course, this isn't a priority for kernel devs at the moment.
Of course, as it's been said, you can always choose to jailbreak and pay for a wifi/hotspot app. That would work.
Sam

I ordered my NC today! I'm waiting for it... what I need to tether my nexus one to NC? N1 is rooted as well... is it necessary to get adhoc fix on NC? I heard some user here saying it is not necessary but I found a thread related to adhoc fix...
Thanks!
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Nothing, you can tether with your N1 without any additional software or hardware...
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IMPORTANT in regards to wireless tethering.

I was an avid user of wireless tether but please do not use it while still running stock rom. Verizon and motorola have security features built into the stock software to help them track people using what they consider illeagal tether apps. Please refrain from using such apps until there is a custom ROM released so as to avoid bringing us to the forefront of verizons attention. In the meantime use pdanet USB tether app located in market. It is important that we as a community stop using our knowledge to continue pushing carriers and handset manufacturers from locking us out completely. If we continue our current trend of outrite defiance in use of these wireless tether apps (wheather you think it should be ok or not is irrelevent until a court rules on it) we are only hurting ourselves in the long run. Please for now use pdanet or similar USB tether app as they are not frowned upon by carriers. If you need to know why here it is, USB apps allow only one device to be connected which limits bandwidth used at one time, wireless tethers allow you to run everything in your house simultatiously greatly increasing individual strain on the network and makeing the user experience for all worse in the long run as the network can only handle so much.
Well, there it all is, an informed public is a better public... Happy modding to all.
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Can we get this stickied?

im sorry to burst this bubble but the securty system also stops you from tethering completely. Im rooted but open garden tether does not work.

Thanks for the info. I've deleted the Wireless Tether app.

Proof should be provided or people are going to chalk this up to fear mongering
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devanmc said:
im sorry to burst this bubble but the securty system also stops you from tethering completely. Im rooted but open garden tether does not work.
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This has been reported multiple times. Any device running the new gingerbread is going to be blocked from illegal tether unless a custom ROM is installed that overrides it, such as CM7.

Wtf guys? I have stated multiple times to use the droid 3 hack.

guod2002 said:
Proof should be provided or people are going to chalk this up to fear mongering
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The proof will be when we are all sitting around complaining because we have been locked out. You can choose to follow this advice or not but, if you think that I would post something to monger fear then apparently you don't know me. It will be people like you who ruin it for all of us. If you don't believe me then do your own research. Disprove it but, until then don't be one of those fools that say global warming isn't real. The evidence is in front of us. Android was completely open in beginning and we were encouraged to develop away. Then as more people began to abuse their power (knowledge is power) the manufacturers and carriers started locking everything down. If you can't see it staring you in the face your blind. Another issue entirely is people who have no aptitude for this what soever are bricking their phones and then getting new replacements simply because they can't follow instructions and shouldn't be modding to begin with but, that's a different discussion for a different day.
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devanmc said:
im sorry to burst this bubble but the securty system also stops you from tethering completely. Im rooted but open garden tether does not work.
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Well, I'm happy to burst yours. Use pdanet, I've been using it since unboxing this beast. I used it to set up adb and to find rooting instructions. And then to download su.zip folder.
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yutzyscott said:
The proof will be when we are all sitting around complaining because we have been locked out. You can choose to follow this advice or not but, if you think that I would post something to monger fear then apparently you don't know me. It will be people like you who ruin it for all of us. If you don't believe me then do your own research. Disprove it but, until then don't be one of those fools that say global warming isn't real. The evidence is in front of us. Android was completely open in beginning and we were encouraged to develop away. Then as more people began to abuse their power (knowledge is power) the manufacturers and carriers started locking everything down. If you can't see it staring you in the face your blind. Another issue entirely is people who have no aptitude for this what soever are bricking their phones and then getting new replacements simply because they can't follow instructions and shouldn't be modding to begin with but, that's a different discussion for a different day.
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I agree with the premise of your original post, but when you resort to name calling and "You do the research to prove my point" all credibility goes out the window.

Im inviting him to disprove my point not prove it. My information comes from all over various forums. P3droid a well known developer in our community first brought this to our attention. And it has been discussed on many other sites. People can believe what they want. If you want to wireless tether then go ahead. You can do it by installing app from third party source or restoring a titanium backup version from previous device then freezing all stock apps and processes related to wireless hotpot in titanium. Good luck.
I am just a modder like the rest of you. I do not benefit nor have any reason to monger fear. I am just providing what I know and have read to increase awareness... do with it what you will.
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Do any of the wireless tether apps actually load up and work?
I heard yesterday that Wifi Tether 3.0 did, but didn't see anyone else claim that it did.

I would love to use the droid 3 wireless solution but i have got to the step of plugging the phone into the computer after having all drivers and the radiocom program installed and it the phone info does not show up
please confirm anyone who has got this to work that the phone is to be in PC Mode.
Again I have all the drivers installed have .net installed and the radiocom program and the phone usb in pc mode
I am running windows vista home 32bit machine
has anyone ran into a similar problem and corrected it that you might share
thanks

igotgame said:
Do any of the wireless tether apps actually load up and work?
I heard yesterday that Wifi Tether 3.0 did, but didn't see anyone else claim that it did.
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I fired it up just to test it. Wouldn't work for me.

Wireless tether is one of the reasons I still have my Droid X on Froyo...I use it a lot.
If I were able to get it to work on the Bionic, I might would consider purchasing it...although I am not thrilled about the screen on the Bionic.

Tethering w/ a 2GB/Mo limit??
I'm afraid to run anything tethered unless I have to. I'm afraid I'm going to quickly exceed the 2GB/mo DL limit!!

igotgame said:
Do any of the wireless tether apps actually load up and work?
I heard yesterday that Wifi Tether 3.0 did, but didn't see anyone else claim that it did.
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I downloaded and installed 3.1 beta 6 and it fired up. As soon as the program started the default tether from motorola also started. I was able to send out a SSID and my eee pad tablet picked it up, however in the list of devices there was a * next to the name. I tried to connect, no go. Sure do hope Verizon doesnt send me a nasty letter

Guys... this happens. I pretty much think the kernel needs to be modified as this happens on my TBolt when a kernel has a bug. Until we see if the boot loader is going to be unlocked... dont hold your breath

There seem to be a lot of people who depend on tethering... why don't you guys just get PdaNet. Works perfectly fine on the Bionic and you dont even need root...

suzook said:
Wtf guys? I have stated multiple times to use the droid 3 hack.
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although you have said this multiple time, i have yet to see someone get it to work on a bionic.
nobody seems to be able to reproduce your results (if you have done this, not saying you didn't but i don't remember you saying you did either)
waiting for a custom rom may be a bridge to far for most people .. just depends on unlocking the bootloader... I am hopeing it will be soon...

Coming from Android with a few questions...

I just ordered a HTC 8x (keeping my 32gb SIII for now) from Verizon and had a few questions. I have not used a Windows phone since my HTC TP2 - which I loved until the HTC Incredible came out. Is there an app that allows WiFi tethering - like FoxFi? I don't use it all that much but when I travel it is nice. I am grandfathered in to unlimited so the tiered plans are not an option. I also use mass txt messages several times (13 team members) a week and I am currently using GoSMS to do it. I am hoping there is a similar app that allows mass txting on Windows Phone OS - stock would be great. Does the wireless charging system use more power than the traditional hard wired cables?
Looking forward to WM8 & thanks all for any help!

Currently
On WP8 only way to tether (I could be wrong) is to pay carrier extra fee. I am waiting on another option as well, and as far as mass text you can do that in the groups setting I send out text to 16 people at a time for basketball games and such. And the room feature seems to be nice but I haven't used it yet. There is also http://xyo.net/lumia/ which will tell you what apps are somewhat equivalent.

WP8 -- in settings has an option for internet sharing (no app needed) that provides up to 5 other devices (at least on my 920 with AT&T). I assume that this is a general option in WP8 ...
I have the shared data plan that allows tethering, so I am not sure if networks need to have it allowed in order to use it ...
But, the option is there without the need of an app ...

eth3rton said:
I just ordered a HTC 8x (keeping my 32gb SIII for now) from Verizon and had a few questions. I have not used a Windows phone since my HTC TP2 - which I loved until the HTC Incredible came out. Is there an app that allows WiFi tethering - like FoxFi? I don't use it all that much but when I travel it is nice. I am grandfathered in to unlimited so the tiered plans are not an option. I also use mass txt messages several times (13 team members) a week and I am currently using GoSMS to do it. I am hoping there is a similar app that allows mass txting on Windows Phone OS - stock would be great. Does the wireless charging system use more power than the traditional hard wired cables?
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wi-fi tethering is a built-in feature in WP8 (since WP7.5) - it's called "internet sharing". i have no problem with at&t, using my nokia 920 as a wi-fi AP for my notebook and my ms surface rt. i can even go remotely to my work computer through VPN.
you can create a group, adding anybody from your contacts. after that you can send email or text sms to all the contacts from this group - just by one click.
and yes, you don't need any additional applications for these features.
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buffalosolja42 said:
On WP8 only way to tether (I could be wrong) is to pay carrier extra fee. I am waiting on another option as well, and as far as mass text you can do that in the groups setting I send out text to 16 people at a time for basketball games and such. And the room feature seems to be nice but I haven't used it yet. There is also http://xyo.net/lumia/ which will tell you what apps are somewhat equivalent.
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i've been a t-mobile customer, and now i'm an at&t client. i didn't pay anything additional for using my phone as a modem (through bluetooth or wi-fi, whatever) and i'm not paying now. the only payment you should be aware of - for the data, you use. i subscribed to a data shared mobile plan in at&t - $90/mo for 6Gb shared data (plus unlimited voice and text) for up to 10 (i believe) lines (i use 4) plus $35/mo per device. i pay $225/mo for 3 smartphones and 1 simple phone. we've never overlimited our 6Gb plan. though if you do, it costs $15/1Gb.
the room is a cool feature, but it works only for WP-phones. but as i said you can group your contacts to be able to email or text all of them by one click.

I think on Verizon unless I am on the Share all plan I am not allowed to use the wifi/bluetooth tethering. At least without an app like FoxFi. Speaking of contacts... how are they managed on WP8? I will go out on a limb and say iCloud is definitely out and probably so is Gmail... hope its that easy.

blackofe said:
the only payment you should be aware of - for the data, you use. i subscribed to a data shared mobile plan in at&t - $90/mo for 6Gb shared data
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The 6Gb data share plan (for families, or 5Gb for individual) is needed to enable tethering with AT&T ...

eth3rton said:
... how are they managed on WP8? I will go out on a limb and say iCloud is definitely out and probably so is Gmail... hope its that easy.
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Gmail is seamless, and so are your contacts if they're synced with Google.
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eth3rton said:
I just ordered a HTC 8x (keeping my 32gb SIII for now) from Verizon and had a few questions. I have not used a Windows phone since my HTC TP2 - which I loved until the HTC Incredible came out. Is there an app that allows WiFi tethering - like FoxFi? I don't use it all that much but when I travel it is nice. I am grandfathered in to unlimited so the tiered plans are not an option. I also use mass txt messages several times (13 team members) a week and I am currently using GoSMS to do it. I am hoping there is a similar app that allows mass txting on Windows Phone OS - stock would be great. Does the wireless charging system use more power than the traditional hard wired cables?
Looking forward to WM8 & thanks all for any help!
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I'm sorry man...but why the hell would you ever leave the gsIII for any other phone period? All the things you need are on Android and the gsIII.
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While the SIII is a great device it is NOT the end all of phones. There are still plenty of force closes and lock ups on the device. I am just wanting to try something different and I have been looking forward to WM8 for a long time. Here's hoping.

^ you might want to read the WPcentral forums, and the iPhone forums, as they do the same lock ups and force closes.
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eth3rton said:
While the SIII is a great device it is NOT the end all of phones. There are still plenty of force closes and lock ups on the device. I am just wanting to try something different and I have been looking forward to WM8 for a long time. Here's hoping.
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the only way to avoid lockups is turning off these phones.

I don't think I've had a lock up or app crash on Windows Phone. They were all too common on iOS though.
But can we leave all the playground arguments over best platform to some other forum? they're only phones at the end of the day.

gilesjuk said:
I don't think I've had a lock up or app crash on Windows Phone. They were all too common on iOS though.
But can we leave all the playground arguments over best platform to some other forum? they're only phones at the end of the day.
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You're the first person in this thread to mention best platform, no one is arguing.

Crashes are present in Windows Phone as well, but are less obvious as the system simply closes down the app without saying a word.
In most cases, crashes are due to the poorly written app and not the system.
Although I have a killer wifi and university that restarts my phone lol.

vetvito said:
^ you might want to read the WPcentral forums, and the iPhone forums, as they do the same lock ups and force closes.
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After reading several of your posts, I still can't figure out if you are a WP8 supporter or not.
Either way, I have been on Android for my entire cell phone career for several years and most recently had the GS3. I can't even tell you how many force closes I have had from apps, lag and slowdown because of horrible resource management of the OS, dalvik cache slowdown, etc. I rooted all of my devices and was heavily into the technical side of things.
I never had an iPhone but have played with many. Never was my cup of tea, but I won't talk bad about it since I simply don't know enough.
I finally grew tired of it all and purchased a HTC 8X last week. I can tell you that WP8 OS is such a breath of fresh air coming from Android. There is absolutely no lag or slowdown whatsoever....ever. I can pop in and out of apps, do whatever I want and it constantly stays smooth. No ram dumps or reboots required. I also have not had a single force closed app or random reboot like some people have reported. It has been an absolute flawless experience so far.
Just thought I would post some positive energy after a lot of negative. Is WP8 a lot more simple than Android? Yes. Is it a bad thing? No. It's such a seamless and smooth experience that I'm not sure I can' go back to Android at this point. At least not for a while. YMMV.

You quote me why? Who was negative? Just stated a fact, dont be so defensive.
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vetvito said:
You quote me why? Who was negative? Just stated a fact, dont be so defensive.
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I'm not being defensive at all. Just stating my opinion based on your quote. The other reason why I quoted you is that I've seen you all throughout this WP8 forum sort of talking down on WP8. Just curious as to why and which side you are on. Not saying you have to pick a side or you can't talk down on WP8, but just curious.

What have I said down? That it lock ups? Is that a lie? App crashes? Is that a lie?How about random reboots? I could go and mention a host of other things but there is no point.
So don't quote me with baseless rhetoric.
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vetvito said:
What have I said down? That it lock ups? Is that a lie? App crashes? Is that a lie?How about random reboots? I could go and mention a host of other things but there is no point.
So don't quote me with baseless rhetoric.
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You know, apologies are in order. I think I completely got you confused with someone else.
Anyhow, my bad. At the same time, my experience with WP8 that I posted doesn't change. I'm loving this OS so far! :good:

A ton of folks are, enjoy it. Don't take this stuff seriously, it's just a phone at the end of the day.
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Non-google based ROM for nook color

Officially I am done with google , as well as the other 7 companies caught up in this NSA mess. Anyone have a suggestion forms nongoogle based ROM for the nook color?
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I am a researcher of bad deeds by corprocratic elites that run our world and if you didn't see this coming five years ago when folks like myself were shouting from the tree tops about these globalist controlled tracking devices then idk what to tell ya. If you are on the internet you have a link established with someone who is watching every move and unless you use an anonymous encrypted VPN to conceal everything you do and do not use social networking or any major search engine except startpage.com then the matrix already has you. And if you believe it is only the few companies named think again. A recent piece of legislation passed by the house and senate allows companies like telcos to get paid govt subsidies to forward information to these alphabet agencies AND more significantly removes any abilities you had to pursue a litigation based remedy against the companies doing this. And since it wasn't the govt spying on you directly, they now have an out for illegally collecting information on citizens. PS this was going on looooooong before the PATRIOT ACT was passed and this is the norm and not the exception. When SHTF economically here all too soon they will know who you are and who you may turn to for help. They will have completed their psychological profiling and prediction algorithms based on your past behavior and will know what you will do and when you will do it with stunning accuracy..
And if you scoff about this, you haven't done your research. Anybody remember that [open]BSD has those backdoors paid for by tax dollars? You think BSD is alone? Hahaha ..honestly in this day and age with the constant lies of the leadership laid bare at our feet you would have to be crazy NOT to realize these things and seek out their own words..
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/03/petraeus-tv-remote/
Just a sample
Remember the saying GIYF? You *still* believe it?
Good day and I too would like to see something not controlled by Google but since the devices have to network through means which are obviously enemy controlled is there really any point?
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Most roms available are based on android, and only a few demo operating systems have been created that are not based on android for the Nook Color.
The Ubuntu Touch demo works for the most part.
Someone got open WebOS working on the Nook Color, but it might take a while to get it working on your part.
You could always port over your own OS if you are that desperate.
If you really want a kinda non google rom and that works well I would have to suggest the original rom that came with the Nook. Even though it is still running android it was modified by Barnes and Noble and is different than the android interface.

Ideally I'd love to see something with ghosting built in. The main reason I want to distance myself from android is to avoid the data mining/forwarding issue
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vikingmedic said:
Ideally I'd love to see something with ghosting built in. The main reason I want to distance myself from android is to avoid the data mining/forwarding issue
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The only thing you are going to find is webOS. Everything else, stock, CM, Ubuntu Touch, Paranoid Android and all others are just forms of Android.
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vikingmedic said:
Ideally I'd love to see something with ghosting built in. The main reason I want to distance myself from android is to avoid the data mining/forwarding issue
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I work on a project designed to compromise the data collection. Look up OpenPdroid and the auto-patcher. All system and app calls for data will still go through, but you will be able to either block or spoof the data returned.
Installation is not exactly trivial...we are working on that.

It's not a perfect solution, but ChameleonOS has a built in Permissions Manager in which you can control your apps.
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From the posts I think many are not realizing that the spy features are BUILT IN TO THE CORE apps and frameworks of the OS especially where proprietary gapps are included. You could disable certain features but then it also wouldn't function properly for your own purposes. And if it is based on android it probably is riddled with the same issues.
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Dump Google Apps / Get OpenPDroid ... Use ixquick Search Engine
I'm running CM 10.1 but I don't install Google Apps which makes a huge difference! GApps is the most invasive, nosiest app I have ever seen! Without that on your tablet you do not have to register the device or provide any info at all... no "setup"... Then I use pandaapps.com and other alternative app sites/ways to get apps. Right after flashing a ROM I also disable all location/GPS crap and go into the browser settings and do the same before enabling wifi. Then I make ixquick.com the search engine. On top of that I am working on installing OpenPDroid but it's not the easiest thing to do yet... the auto-patcher that works in Windows to compile the ROM and PDroid patches doesn't work with every ROM. But OpenPDroid will allow you to control what info and access apps get, by (for example) setting PDroid to give the app null, fake, or random data in place of real data. It's still not perfect but it's a lot better....

USB Bug in Android???

Ok, on another board (not Android related), one of the members was posting a piece on cryptography. Interesting stuff. His intent was to encourage people to start using encrypted communications more.
Another member then asked about any apps that you could run on your smartphone such as an Android based device. The OP stated that using such an app on Android is useless because with physical access, he could install any app on your phone (such as a keylogger) and the encryption is moot. Here is his exact quote:
I do though. You can sideload an APK into a phone, even if USB debug isn't turned on, it's password protected, and even if the device storage is encrypted. There's a 'bug' in the USB stack of Android that's never been fixed. There's a similar bug in IOS. Some PDs even have a device that does exactly this. I really don't want to get too much into exactly how it happens, but it affects every phone I've ever played with. It's about as difficult as breaking into a warded padlock. All you need is the shim.
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Does such a bug still exist? If so, has any XDA dev ever considered patching it for security's sake so that a law enforcement agency would not be able to access your device?
Thanks

@jcase would know for sure.

I'm unaware of any such in android, I've found some in OEM builds in the past but nothing in android. Possible tho
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