So I got the official Mango update yesterday, and the battery life seems to be worse than the Mango beta was. I still have everything configured the way it was before, and yes the Online Messaging is set to offline. I also did a discharge, recharge cycle once.
Has anyone else noticed subpar battery life on the official version of Mango?
same here.my device's hd7.
I though mine was really bad in the Dev preview, it sounds stupid but it was going flat withing about 5 hours.
I pulled the battery out and put it back in and then all was good, in the final at full charge the battery menu says I have about 1 day and 12 hrs usage, I always a good days usage out of it now.
ETA: My friend at work has a similar problem, did the same thing and go the same result.
same here.my device's mozar
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Seems to be an inordinate amount of dissatisfaction with "this ROM" or "that Radio" due to perceived sudden battery drain.
I believe that I have far more variance in battery drain, day to day with the same setup, than I have due to changing ROM or Radio.
I have sometimes run the exact same setup for several days in a row, yet one day it will seem like battery is lasting forever, and another day it seems that battery is draining very rapidly.
IMHO, of all the criteria of importance in evaluating a new ROM or Radio, battery drain is towards the bottom of the list. Just like my laptop, I make sure that I always am prepared to renew my charge - I have a charger at the office, at home, and in the car - at all times! My Wizard is my everyday tool, and function and stability are way more important than battery life. I plug in and gas up whenever I get the chance, so I have never had an issue with running out of juice!
My opinion is that charge and drain cycles, and program use, probably account for 90% of the perceived variance.
Am I the only one that thinks that battery drain issues are over-hyped?
cushcalc said:
Seems to be an inordinate amount of dissatisfaction with "this ROM" or "that Radio" due to perceived sudden battery drain.
I believe that I have far more variance in battery drain, day to day with the same setup, than I have due to changing ROM or Radio.
I have sometimes run the exact same setup for several days in a row, yet one day it will seem like battery is lasting forever, and another day it seems that battery is draining very rapidly.
IMHO, of all the criteria of importance in evaluating a new ROM or Radio, battery drain is towards the bottom of the list. Just like my laptop, I make sure that I always am prepared to renew my charge - I have a charger at the office, at home, and in the car - at all times! My Wizard is my everyday tool, and function and stability are way more important than battery life. I plug in and gas up whenever I get the chance, so I have never had an issue with running out of juice!
My opinion is that charge and drain cycles, and program use, probably account for 90% of the perceived variance.
Am I the only one that thinks that battery drain issues are over-hyped?
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Your probably not the only one who thinks the issue is over-hyped ,that said it is very much an important issue. I'm not sure that I would list it at the top of my must haves list but isn't anywhere near the bottom. A stable working rom is what matters most but what use is it if requires you keep a spare battery in pocket to use it. These variances are certainly not figments of our imagination as I have seen my wizard go from lasting 3 days to less than one with no change in the useage profile.
I've never had an issue with battery drain. But -- like you -- I keep my Wizard "topped off" with a charger at my desk at work, in the car and a desktop cradle/charger at home. When my battery life drops below 80% it goes on the charger wherever I am.
I also find that my battery life is in direct relation to running apps/Today plugins more than ROM issues. So, if I don't run some of the more power-intensive apps, my battery lasts longer.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it. . .
Typically there is one or more programs that cause the battery to drop quickly. I know that recently after I performed a hard reset on my x-bow install (Orwell's), my battery drain problems went away. However, when I restored the backup, they came back so I went ahead and performed another hard reset, and installed all my programs one by one again. After a couple of times doing this, the problem finally went away. Believe me, it got so aggravating at one point that I switched back to AKU 3.2. I did install the 02.61.11 radio rom, and I think that may have helped.
The issue is not overhyped. I know that it happens, but a lot can be resolved by being patient with what we install and when we do it.
jwzg said:
Typically there is one or more programs that cause the battery to drop quickly. I know that recently after I performed a hard reset on my x-bow install (Orwell's), my battery drain problems went away. However, when I restored the backup, they came back so I went ahead and performed another hard reset, and installed all my programs one by one again. After a couple of times doing this, the problem finally went away. Believe me, it got so aggravating at one point that I switched back to AKU 3.2. I did install the 02.61.11 radio rom, and I think that may have helped.
The issue is not overhyped. I know that it happens, but a lot can be resolved by being patient with what we install and when we do it.
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Hi Actually, yesterday I took my phone from the charger at 100% at 7AM, by 6PM I had less than 50%. Only used it twice for a regular call and a couple of texst messages. Today it is a lot better. It alternates between fast drain on one day and then another day it could be good. I am using Faria's V2 rom, 8mb pool. As far as the memory leak in Faria's V1, a beta version of today agenda came out that I am using on Faria's V2 and have not had memory leak issues. All in all, it's a great rom, even if it has the battery issues, Cingular did a crappy job with the original rom.
ROM upgrades
ROM upgrades reset the battery history, so that it has to learn how long it lasts. This makes for a lot of variance in battery percentage, but not in voltage; all it is doing is learning how voltage translates into battery duration. Usually just a day or two after a new ROM and battery drop stabilizes. But it never learns perfectly -- my battery stays at 100% for hours and then starts falling a percent or two an hour.
Wifi uses up a lot of power. Just being connected to a bluetooth headset doesn't seem to use much but if it is searching for the headset (e.g. because it is off) then it uses a lot of power, although not as much as wifi. Searching for GSM also uses a lot of power and if I know I will be out of touch for a long period of time I turn off the phone, but just being connected to GSM doesn't seem to use much.
on a thread i read to use the device unlocked option, it worked for me
Exactly, the biggest factors for battery usage are (apart from wifi and using applications of course):
1) reception quality
2) data connection
example 1: London, crap reception at home, average usage, two mailboxes checking mail every 5mins, gprs always on : 7am - 100%, 8pm - 25%
example 2: Same as above but one email checked every 15min, second every 30min : 7am - 100%, 8pm - 50%
example 3: Egypt, reception always excellent, no data connection, usage SLIGHTLY less: 7am - 100%, 8pm - 94%!!!
Anyway, that's the price for the performance I guess, if the battery life would be the most important thing, I would buy Nokia 6310...
Here's an amazing discovery. My phone was at 25% in about 8 hours. I will leave the phone at 100% at night and it will be at 75% the next morning. By chance I purchased a brand new battery to place in another phone that had a broken usb. I placed the brand new battery in my old phone to charge it and at 100% I removed it and placed my old battery and charged it to 100%. Now I leave my phone at 100% at night and the next morning its at 100%. Go figure...... Overnight, the phone radio is on and so is bluetooth
Suspicion, drain rate is a memory issue....... comments
cushcalc said:
I believe that I have far more variance in battery drain, day to day with the same setup, than I have due to changing ROM or Radio.
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I totaly agree, I have my PDA hooked to Exchange with wireless active sync and full attachment download. If I was to say get 5 emails with 10 MB attachments, and then have a 2 hour conversation with some one I haven't talked to in a while I would most definately use more of my charge that day.
The point is that to me battery drain is more about usage either perceived or not. I set my PDA to do whatever it wants, so that is what it does.
One thing that i have noticed is how you charge your Phone. I have noticed that if i charge my phone with the home wall charger i'll have to charge later that night. But if i charge it thru the USB cord from my computer, the phone stays charged for almost 2 days. Thats why i only charge my phone now thru the usb cable. if you dont believe try it out and you will be amazed.
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One thing that i have noticed is how you charge your Phone. I have noticed that if i charge my phone with the home wall charger i'll have to charge later that night. But if i charge it thru the USB cord from my computer, the phone stays charged for almost 2 days. Thats why i only charge my phone now thru the usb cable. if you dont believe try it out and you will be amazed.
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that's quite strange - definitely not the case for me...
well everyone i work with here has a pocket pc and i told them to try that out and they actually noticed a difference in how long the battery would stay charged even with regular usage of the device. So either this must work or im a real good manipulator.
Recently I bought a cheap battery which is obviously from china.
And it looks like the original HTC battery with the same black colour.
On first use it came with 80% charge level . I used the battery until it drained . It lasted the same as my original worn out battery of 6 months at the same percentage (maybe due to old batt stats in the is)
the following charge cycles( full drain and full charge)
First full charge cycle -battery only charged to 72%.
2nd cycle - battery charged to 75%
3rd cycle -battery charged to 83%.
one of the major difference is that with this battery,the phone shows that red juice cylinder , when it starts charging from 0%. Something I didn't saw with the original HTC battery after mango beta .
The first 2 cycles the battery exhibited the rapid drain symptom after plugging off the charger .
after the 3rd cycle it does not have this behavior and drained normally.
After this 3rd cycle the battery indicator was stuck at 80%. Used the phone for 3g browsing for 30 mins . Restarted the phone and it showed 91%. Used till 77% and charged the phone to 100%
At this time the battery is doing great . Will do another cycle a few days later to see how it goes.
In between these charges I had some small partial charges.
So far the battery now holds better and able to surf continuously on 3g for 40 mins and its at 90%, WiFi off , location on ,bt off ,battery saver on ,
the funny thing is that it is like the same quality original HTC battery .
is is mango with latest firmware update.
there are some problems with the original HD7 HTC battery.
mine did not last long before it died.
HTC needs to do QA on its batterires. They are the worst ever used
I recently (two days ago?) had a big 3500mAh battery arrive which i ordered from the internet, i paid about £14 for it. I've noticed it's a little weird in terms of performance, and i'm not sure if that's anything to do with the HD7 software side, or if i've just been ripped off.
3500mAh is ~3x the capacity of the stock HD7 battery so i was expecting charging times to be way, way longer but also for my phone to last a good deal longer too, but i've just been seeing major inconsistencies. My new battery would charge and discharge faster than the stock one that came with my phone, it'd stick on 99% charging, it's really confusing.
At the moment, it seems to be behaving itself with 56% time since last charge 15 hours, time remaining 9 hours. I have reason to suspect that when you use a new battery that the battery information Windows Phone 7/7.5 provides is WILDLY inaccurate, and it might take some time for the software to get used to the new battery.
I'm not sure, i'm just finding batteries really confusing!
Epsis said:
I recently (two days ago?) had a big 3500mAh battery arrive which i ordered from the internet, i paid about £14 for it. I've noticed it's a little weird in terms of performance, and i'm not sure if that's anything to do with the HD7 software side, or if i've just been ripped off.
3500mAh is ~3x the capacity of the stock HD7 battery so i was expecting charging times to be way, way longer but also for my phone to last a good deal longer too, but i've just been seeing major inconsistencies. My new battery would charge and discharge faster than the stock one that came with my phone, it'd stick on 99% charging, it's really confusing.
At the moment, it seems to be behaving itself with 56% time since last charge 15 hours, time remaining 9 hours. I have reason to suspect that when you use a new battery that the battery information Windows Phone 7/7.5 provides is WILDLY inaccurate, and it might take some time for the software to get used to the new battery.
I'm not sure, i'm just finding batteries really confusing!
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try using a custom rom, the battery usualy lasts longer. the sdcard tweak works well . i beleive its a prblem with how wp7 OS handles the sdcard power management
i beleive the OS uses power consumption vs power capacity to judge the gauge. also u whenever u full charge the battery , u need to let it rest for a few hours. so ideally every evening u get home, charge it to 100 % from whatever is left with and unplug from the charger immediately after full. leaving it ont he charger whole night seems to drain it when u take it out fromt he charger next morning and start using it.
try using this app battery discharger ( free ) from the marketplace: it calibrated my battery well
when its close to dying like 20%, just run this app , and fully drained, charge full again
now my battery last 30+ hours on idle. i am not sure if yr 15 hours is correct on that size u have ,
Gishum said:
there are some problems with the original HD7 HTC battery.
mine did not last long before it died.
HTC needs to do QA on its batterires. They are the worst ever used
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yep i agree, the original HTC batteries seem to be worst than the cheap aftermarket versions
I have an ATT M7 One that is a little under a year old and recently (Past month or so) I have been having really odd battery fluctuations. I’ll link to an imgur album with some of the battery level graphs that I’ve caught in the past few weeks to hopefully help you understand what I’m talking about more clearly since I don’t think I’ll be able to describe them very accurately on my own. So in the first case i’ve encountered I will charge the battery fully, and once the phone is running on battery it will last anywhere from 15 minutes to maybe an hour two and then just die. But when it dies, the battery level still displays 60%-70%.(Images 4,5,6,& 7) Then when I turn the phone back on the battery level will be anywhere from around 0%-20% and will last for another couple of minutes before dying again. There is another case of my battery acting really strange where the battery level will stay at around 50%-60% even though it’s being charged continuously (Right side of Image 1). I don’t know if it’s because my battery’s calibration is off or of the battery is just dying. I really hope the battery isn’t just outright dying; to get to this level of battery instability in under a year seems pretty shocking to me. I should add that i didn’t get any of these problems before I rooted my phone. I didn’t notice it while it was rooted with the stock rom. I initially started noticing the problem after I installed a GPE rom (not exactly sure which). I thought it was just the rom at first but I’ve switched around to different roms and have been getting the same problem. So does anyone know what the problem is or what could have caused it and if it is even fixable at all?
Thanks for any input!
imgur album : http://imgur.com/a/4PmuO
UPDATE: I've performed a factory reset and used the phone as normal while watching battery life. The battery life lasted about an hour and a half, getting down to 80%. Throughout the battery life I was re-installing my apps and one of my restores required a restart. When I restarted my phone, the phone powered on with 60% battery life then died about a minute later.
Hello!
I've been experiencing worse battery life on my Nokia 8 since Pie upgrade, I haven't installed any apps nor services...
Note that the battery improved -but not as good as Oreo- after calibration using an app...
Are you experiencing the sane issue? Or should I further investigate?
Thank you..
yes
Same here. I got 12 hours screen on time once on oreo but now, it is a dream. Battery drains fastly due to background services. App restriction doesn't work as well as oreo's restriction. So, this situation causes battery draining. Also there is a weird thing i've faced, battery drains quickly from %100 to %95. I am waiting for Maintenance Release impatiently.
is battery life on oreo really that good?
I'm using pie since day 1 and never got more than 7h sot and 1.5 days.
My battery life is dire since pie, I was impressed with the battery in the 8 until this update, I cant even make a day without having to charge. When I say day I mean from 7am to 10pm as its left charging overnight.
Before pie I could quite happily last 2 days between charges, I'm not a heavy user, initially I thought I must be using the phone more. But I'm actually using it less just so it makes it to the end of the day!
Somehow it's worse again today, dead by 4:30!
Basically just checked phone to see the time, around 10 minutes of faffing in the morning, rebooted it before charging last night incase sonething was using battery. Madness!
For me, I've given my phone a factory reset before I installed the Beta labs/initial final(V5.110, December 2018-January 2019) build. Despite that, I did notice my battery life taking a hit when running this iteration of Pie. I was at most getting not more than 5 hours of SoT on average. And I do use my phone a lot throughout the day, the camera, web browsing, videos and social media. Meanwhile on Oreo, I can get 6 hours on average no problem. Sometimes even 7 hours if I'm lucky.
After updating to V5.140(February 2019) with Adaptive Battery brought in, I seem to have gotten back my average SoC just like when my phone was running Oreo. Running 5-6 hours on average. I'm not sure if Adaptive Battery has anything to do with this since I did notice the improvement immediately. I also disabled some of the Evenwell crap before updating to V5.140, so that may or may not have an effect.
If apps restricted didnt work then try manually restrict each app go to ur up hold it then info Then choose battery from there change background restriction
Ifaced this problem in beta when iwas sleep and wake up morning my battery was almost below 20 percent but i manually restrict all apps and its working 100 percent ?
Sorry to heat that. Have you tried installing some apps like better battery stats to see what exactly is saying up your battery? If your phone is rooted consider installing ForceDoze from f-droid and maybe WakeBlock to regulate some wakelocks that may be the cause of your terrible battery life. I have been able to get great battery life using the latest put version. See screenshot below from a few days ago.
I know that this is old thread but i have solution which i use with my nokia. change default launcher to another lightweight. This works and my battery feel better.
I should of updated, battery went back to normal after newer updates.
However, biggest thing for me, using DNS666 Ad blocker has seemingly doubled my battery life, might be a combination of just gotten bored of the phone or blocking all the ad's saves battery, or a bit of both, its also made the phone feel a lot more responsive overall, i'm using Squarehome as my launcher so maybe that was affecting the battery before?
Maybe which update can fix battery life? I rooted my phone and can't download latest update.
I'm suffering from bad battery drain. Leaving the phone idle for 5-6 hours and the battery drains from 90% to 49%.
Battery usage nothing is happening. Really weird?
Yes, that's strange and certainly different than my experience. I use the phone constantly day and into the evening, open and folded with from 5 to 8 hours on screen time and still have 40-50% battery. Every bit as good as my previous phone (Galaxy S20).
Have you gotten a system update. I've seen at least one post indicating battery life was improved.
Look a round and you'll find how to download and install manually, if you feel the need.
Best of luck.
What do you mean download and install manually? I think I might just do a factory reset and see how it goes!
I think SOC 3hrs max. I just check stocks and YouTube and etc... Video call probs drains the most for me
i don't see much difference in battery drain. last time i had bad battery drain was from google latest update. i had to reinstall the previous version to solve the issue.