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Anybody get a pre? I've seen one really great review of it and one kind of crummy review, very curious about getting this phone for my wife. Any recommendations on a good site (the XDA-Dev's for PalmPre)?? Thanks!!
not sure, but i dont believe HTC is manufacturing the pre
XDA = HTC phones.
again, not sure, if it is manufactured by HTC there would probably already be a section on the forum devoted to the pre.
I have heard a lot of good things about the phone.
only 2 cons so far: small keyboard, and programs lag a little.
other then that, Its a great looking phone, with new innovative GUI
I don't think I would be able to use the small keyboard. I can barely use the one on the Treo Pro, and the one on the Centro is too small for me... and I have relatively small hands!
Yeah, I know there won't be a section here as it is most definitely NOT an HTC device, hence my posting in off-topic. I was jut wondering if anyone knew what the best Palm forum is.
I've heard from another member of the forums here who has one that there are some hardware probs with the phone, dead pixels and bad overheating problems. First run Blackstones had similar issues so we'll see if this doesn't get straightened out in the next shipment. I'm not too worried about the small keyboard as my wife has doll hands and long nails anyway ;-)
Best bet is Precentral.net
Its not nearly as robust as XDA in regards to the manipulating and hacking of the device (possibly cause its just brand new) but its probably the biggest Pre / WebOS focused message board at the moment.
Yep i have red this is a crap
A piece of crap... is the way that many people has referred about the new PALM Pre.. why? i dont know, but I think its not powerfull than other device from PALM or HTC, but, does this palm have WinMo? maybe this feature can make it a little stronger.
I saw a few videos and i cant remember about it, cause it doesnt matters to me... Palm doesnt matter for who is a HTC user, you know...
BTW that litle qwerty seems to be for a kid... they are very happy cause the edge of the device is soft... what an amazing development!!!!
Well let us know if anyone has a little toy like that.
There should be a Pre section on this site...I dont see why now. There's 2 for the Palm Treo's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=321
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=466
I might be getting one after some of the initial updates and bugs are worked out. 2 of my friends have one and they seem to like it so far comparted to their HTC TP.
zeo2k said:
There should be a Pre section on this site...I dont see why now. There's 2 for the Palm Treo's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=321
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=466
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That´s because that models were manufactured by HTC and Pre won´t so it won´t have it´s section on this forum
orb3000 said:
That´s because that models were manufactured by HTC and Pre won´t so it won´t have it´s section on this forum
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Makes sense...Thanks
I played around withh it for a bit an the keyboard is soft and hard, but maybe your wife's doll hands will be fine lol
The web browsing is great. And I like that it's slim. Other than that, I like my Pro. And I don't know of any other issues. though. Good luck!
I do have to say that the Pre UI is pretty sweet. I hope the Android team takes not and realizes that the built in apps can also look good. As noted a few posts back, the Pre does have a bit of lag when you launch new apps, but the card manager works great for switching once they are open.
I have to say that I love the hardware design of the thing. reminds me a lot of the HTC Touch Dual. I hope HTC brings back the Duals form factor in a new Android handset.
I played with one today at the Sprint store...
The keyboard is better than I expected, better than the Treo Pro, much better than the Centro...
There is a "slight" lag when opening applications, but it doesn't seem to be with all applications.
The card interface is really cool and works great!
I have a Pre, so I would know stuff:
The in-store Pre's are running demo software, so they will have more lag than the real model
There is no file explorer - This is a huge change from what were used to on Windows Mobile, lol, but you don't necessarily need it.
Multitasking is AMAZING! Nothing can match it. Using Turn-by-Turn GPS while streaming Pandora in the car is seamless and works just as you'd expect.
The app store, well, give it time!
EXCHANGE: If you're exchange server doesn't use a SSL connection, then you're screwed. Palm has to release an update before this will ever work. Trust me, there's no other solution.
Synergy - I wouldn't know how well this works because I can't connect my Exchange server, which pretty much defeats the purpose.
Overall, I'd say that for your wife, the Pre would be perfect. It's like an iPhone, but you can do wayy more. It's not Windows Mobile though, so don't expect a bunch of functionality. But this phone works perfectly for what you want it for. Everything just works the way you would expect, like how the phone wont lock the screen unless you put it in your pocket (brilliant!)
But watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9uNABNcCoY It's an Opera Mini vs Palm Pre browser comparison video. Opera Mini smokes the Pre, lol.
So I would say, get the Pre for your wife. Everything is soo seamless on the Pre and works so nicely. If you want to be an advanced user, then WinMo (or Android maybe) is for you.
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I have a Pre, so I would know stuff:
The in-store Pre's are running demo software, so they will have more lag than the real model
There is no file explorer - This is a huge change from what were used to on Windows Mobile, lol, but you don't necessarily need it.
Multitasking is AMAZING! Nothing can match it. Using Turn-by-Turn GPS while streaming Pandora in the car is seamless and works just as you'd expect.
The app store, well, give it time!
EXCHANGE: If you're exchange server doesn't use a SSL connection, then you're screwed. Palm has to release an update before this will ever work. Trust me, there's no other solution.
Synergy - I wouldn't know how well this works because I can't connect my Exchange server, which pretty much defeats the purpose.
Overall, I'd say that for your wife, the Pre would be perfect. It's like an iPhone, but you can do wayy more. It's not Windows Mobile though, so don't expect a bunch of functionality. But this phone works perfectly for what you want it for. Everything just works the way you would expect, like how the phone wont lock the screen unless you put it in your pocket (brilliant!)
But watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9uNABNcCoY It's an Opera Mini vs Palm Pre browser comparison video. Opera Mini smokes the Pre, lol.
So I would say, get the Pre for your wife. Everything is soo seamless on the Pre and works so nicely. If you want to be an advanced user, then WinMo (or Android maybe) is for you.
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I didn't know about the lock in the pocket things, that's really cool
My sever is SSL, so I'm fine there.
And, of course Opera Mini wins, the Pre is doing all the work itself...
HTC did make PALMpre...i remember when it was announce back in january...i have to say it is a very solid and good device and i love winmo phone, current xperia, touch pro, and HTC HD user. Palmpre WEBos impressed me i would pick one up when a gsm version release. I believe this device took whats good with winmo and iphone and combined it together very well and have lots of room to improve as well...one thing i notice about it that is bad is the battery...make sure you read up on the tweaks n so on so you can conserve battery but most people say it dies out very quickly i dunno if its the way they using it or not but i used a unit for 2 days and still have 50 percent battery...i say your wife would love this device and make a fan out of u
They support non-SSL exchange now
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They support non-SSL exchange now
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No they don't. Did they release an update?? Or is there a link to a thread that hacked it? Cuz last time I checked, they didn't update it and that was the only way.
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No they don't. Did they release an update?? Or is there a link to a thread that hacked it? Cuz last time I checked, they didn't update it and that was the only way.
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Umm. Yes.
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na...ions/article/50607_en.html#N066192D0.0665F218
...Non-SSL Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) mail servers are now supported....
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Umm. Yes.
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na...ions/article/50607_en.html#N066192D0.0665F218
...Non-SSL Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) mail servers are now supported....
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Thanks! I'm gonna check for updates now! (Next time, it'd be nice if you described your post a little more, but thanks soo much!)
Exchange Works On Pre Without SSL Now!! Yay!
New maps (4.0 with Buzz!) available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630887
Direct link to apk:
http://ul.to/1ofshq/maps4.0.0-brut4.apk
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Thanks for the info. Downloaded and installed.
Do you know what they mean by MT? I noticed it said that they had backported some MT from Eclair, but if its Multi Touch, I couldn't get it to do anything.
nabicat said:
Thanks for the info. Downloaded and installed.
Do you know what they mean by MT? I noticed it said that they had backported some MT from Eclair, but if its Multi Touch, I couldn't get it to do anything.
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yeah, that will never work on the vogue. resistive touch screens can't do multitouch, they just average two points; many other reasons as well why we will never have multitouch on our devices.
I do love the new night mode in nav. buzz, i'm still undecided about. kinda cool though.
Buzz is pretty cool... just a toy though, I think it's more for kiddies
Is this 4.0 the one that was just updated in the marketplace? I'm guessing this version is for users outside of the US who cannot access it?
berardi said:
Buzz is pretty cool... just a toy though, I think it's more for kiddies
Is this 4.0 the one that was just updated in the marketplace? I'm guessing this version is for users outside of the US who cannot access it?
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Yes - the link is for non-us international nav.
dang, can't even install on my eris through straight apk file.
In case anyone is a member of AppPla***.net (not sure if I can post the name here) Their apk works fine on the NC and you can download just like you can off the Android Market. Not sure why Android Market wont work on the NC, but this works fine. I have gotten 100's of apks there on my NC.
yes, it works fine.
for those opposed to stealing, just remember all the apps with a line through the price are pirated.
Has anyone verified is there were/are any malicious apps on that site/program.. I've been told some of the permissions on some of the apps were "questionable."
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Has anyone verified is there were/are any malicious apps on that site/program.. I've been told some of the permissions on some of the apps were "questionable."
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Anything illegal has a very large chance of causing damage. Use at your own risk. Best to play it safe and stay away. I just wanted to let people know that the apk did in fact work. Maybe it will help someone create the real Market apk.
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yes, it works fine.
for those opposed to stealing, just remember all the apps with a line through the price are pirated.
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Also confirmed working. I'm one of those try it,and if I like it, buy it guys so I think this app works out well for honest guys like myself. I'm not into wasting money (not even a little bit), but I will support quality products so this is right up my alley.
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Also confirmed working. I'm one of those try it,and if I like it, buy it guys so I think this app works out well for honest guys like myself. I'm not into wasting money (not even a little bit), but I will support quality products so this is right up my alley.
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I agree. Just wish the real market would get working so I could actually buy the apps I like!
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I agree. Just wish the real market would get working so I could actually buy the apps I like!
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Yeah I hear you. But this will have to do for now, something is better than nothing. At least we are getting the "Android Market Experience" lol.
Edit: NVM, I'm an idiot who can't follow directions.....
Funny... I installed this App via adb and it doesn't show in my extras... How did you guys get it to appear?
Epicrean said:
Funny... I installed this App via adb and it doesn't show in my extras... How did you guys get it to appear?
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Did you restart after installing?
I think it's best we close this just now, before this moves into a full-blown warez discussion. Installing paid apps without paying them is not something this forum condones, nor tolerates the discussion of.
There is progress in using the proper Android market on the device.
Do you think it is possible to get the apk for the dabbler app? I have the regular old Tegra Note, and I would like to see if it would work on there.
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Do you think it is possible to get the apk for the dabbler app? I have the regular old Tegra Note, and I would like to see if it would work on there.
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It's really just a customized Autodesk Sketchbook that's modified to work with the K1 more efficiently.
I don't think it would help to pull it. If you really want though, I can send it your way to see if it works for you.
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It's really just a customized Autodesk Sketchbook that's modified to work with the K1 more efficiently.
I don't think it would help to pull it. If you really want though, I can send it your way to see if it works for you.
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I would love to give this a try too if its possible.
Harfainx said:
It's really just a customized Autodesk Sketchbook that's modified to work with the K1 more efficiently.
I don't think it would help to pull it. If you really want though, I can send it your way to see if it works for you.
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I'm somewhat interested as well since I have a Tegra 4 tablet.
Sorry, forgot about it. I'll upload it in about an hour when I get home.
Harfainx said:
Sorry, forgot about it. I'll upload it in about an hour when I get home.
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Thanks that was a pretty quick response
Try these, see if they work for you.
Dabbler - https://www.4shared.com/download/MoP38YTJba/comnvidiawatercolor.apk?lgfp=3000
Write - https://www.4shared.com/download/BfVlrWY4ba/comstyluslabswrite.apk?lgfp=3000
I don't know if you'll need this, but you might want to give it a shot.
Handwriting Recognition - https://www.4shared.com/download/4uqsLC09ce/comvisionobjectsstylusmobilev3.apk?lgfp=3000
Harfainx said:
Try these, see if they work for you.
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Thanks very much for these.
Harfainx said:
Try these, see if they work for you.
Dabbler - https://www.4shared.com/download/MoP38YTJba/comnvidiawatercolor.apk?lgfp=3000
Write - https://www.4shared.com/download/BfVlrWY4ba/comstyluslabswrite.apk?lgfp=3000
I don't know if you'll need this, but you might want to give it a shot.
Handwriting Recognition - https://www.4shared.com/download/4uqsLC09ce/comvisionobjectsstylusmobilev3.apk?lgfp=3000
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Dabbler force closes (not surprisingly). The Write app works. Thanks for uploading them though.. I was wondering if Dabbler would work.
Harfainx said:
Try these, see if they work for you.
Dabbler - https://www.4shared.com/download/MoP38YTJba/comnvidiawatercolor.apk?lgfp=3000
Write - https://www.4shared.com/download/BfVlrWY4ba/comstyluslabswrite.apk?lgfp=3000
I don't know if you'll need this, but you might want to give it a shot.
Handwriting Recognition - https://www.4shared.com/download/4uqsLC09ce/comvisionobjectsstylusmobilev3.apk?lgfp=3000
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Thanks so much. It doesn't work though. I wanted to try watercolor.
make it. kompatible?
McSurge45 said:
Thanks so much. It doesn't work though. I wanted to try watercolor.
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Me too, and I am asking is there a way to make this compatible with a Samsung note 2014?
Or , just in case one can recommend a good handpainting program to use with the stylus?
Thanks in advance:highfive:
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Me too, and I am asking is there a way to make this compatible with a Samsung note 2014?
Or , just in case one can recommend a good handpainting program to use with the stylus?
Thanks in advance:highfive:
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GIve the Corel Painter app a try. They have nice physical media effects.
Dabbler probably isn't going to be compatible with the Tegra Note or Samsung Note, since it is either reliant on the K1 SoC, or has software checks that prevent it from running on other SoCs.
I have clover paint https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fareast.CloverPaint&hl=en
It's so good that I asked the dev if the $20 tablet UI add-on would work with the tegra note, they said no, I got it anyway, and it works. I was only gonna get it to give the dev more money but not only does it work it's the best UI ever. The painting itself (if you read up on it you can see the praise but in short) is the bomb. I got the directstylus pro pack and am completely skipping over this gen of tablets I'm just sticking with my tegra note and clover paint and my next tablet purchase will actually be based on what the clover paint developers use I guess either when my note dies or when I want a bigger screen. I originally was 100% intent on gaming for android which is why I ended up with the tegra note, boy am I glad it had another use.
If you do use clover paint you gotta go into the stylus settings and at the bottom do the automatic pressure detection, just press down as light and as hard as you plan on, basically drag it around and practice your strokes until it's done. The one problem with it right now is it's the most advanced program ever made but there's no documentation, so for example I have the pro stylus so that's two tips, then I have a third stylus which is one of them round wire tips and each time I switch I do the auto pressure, but maybe one day there'll be stylus profiles it's really, really confusing, I think it's the language barrier, but holy moly macaroni if you like to art you better try it and you better actually get to know it before deciding you don't like it a good example is to take the oil brush and see how it mixes colors and smudges it and then you can cusotmize brushes to no end with stuff like smudging and mixing and outlining and I don't know if you're trying it yet but if you're not why aren't you go sjust go forget this post and just go
aenews said:
Dabbler force closes (not surprisingly). The Write app works. Thanks for uploading them though.. I was wondering if Dabbler would work.
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I'm pretty sure that Nvidia created Dabbler to only be used with the K1 processor. It was a way for them to show off how powerful it really is in a fun, neat way.
Pretty sure I heard that in a demo somewhere.
I don't know if there's any way to run dabbler in other devices but I randomly realized that the handwriting recognition app Shield has installed by default is an actual app that can be downloaded from the playstore. I had asked a friend if she knew a good handwriting recognition app before I got my Shield and by the time she sent me the link to the app I had already gotten my Shield so I saw right away it's the exact same thing! It's called MyScript and it's in beta. Here's the link if anyone wants to try it out: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visionobjects.stylusmobile.v3_2_store
I saw you uploaded the recognition app too and thought maybe this could help.
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I don't know if there's any way to run dabbler in other devices but I randomly realized that the handwriting recognition app Shield has installed by default is an actual app that can be downloaded from the playstore. I had asked a friend if she knew a good handwriting recognition app before I got my
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Hi ,guy, I need want to try that if dabbler works on my Tegra note 7. But i cant download from google playstore.
Sorry if starting a new thread isn't exactly appropriate. I wasn't certain what to search for, but I was wondering if there was a graphing calculator app that could run on our Nooks, similar to the stock calculator on CM11. That would be convenient for my Algebra work. Thanks!
yattaro said:
Sorry if starting a new thread isn't exactly appropriate. I wasn't certain what to search for, but I was wondering if there was a graphing calculator app that could run on our Nooks, similar to the stock calculator on CM11. That would be convenient for my Algebra work. Thanks!
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I'll look around a bit more, but I haven't had any luck on this before. I've been looking for an app ike this since I started Algebra 1 last year.
Algebra 2 is great, isn't it?
thenookieforlife3 said:
I'll look around a bit more, but I haven't had any luck on this before. I've been looking for an app ike this since I started Algebra 1 last year.
Algebra 2 is great, isn't it?
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If only WabbitEmu worked on 2.1. That would be almost perfect.
As for Algebra 2, it's an okay class when you have a good teacher... In my class, about ten people almost failed until they decided a D to a 0.5. And now this quarter that's not happening and alongside passing, we have to also make a 2.0 GPA to stay in the school (since it's a magnet school). Also, it's kinda funny how we keep running into each other today, wouldn't you agree?
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If only WabbitEmu worked on 2.1. That would be almost perfect.
As for Algebra 2, it's an okay class when you have a good teacher... In my class, about ten people almost failed until they decided a D to a 0.5. And now this quarter that's not happening and alongside passing, we have to also make a 2.0 GPA to stay in the school (since it's a magnet school). Also, it's kinda funny how we keep running into each other today, wouldn't you agree?
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Well, I'm homeschooled, so Algebra 2 is taught by my mom/a computer program, and it's super fun and easy for me.
Definitely funny - especially considering we're around the same age.
Ive actually had a bit of luck with Andie Graph(just had to get the roms through other means online) and it runs pretty nicely on the eink screen
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Ive actually had a bit of luck with Andie Graph(just had to get the roms through other means online) and it runs pretty nicely on the eink screen
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Great, I'll give it a go!
Just because I'm lazy, would you post the .apk? You can find it in /data/app.
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Great, I'll give it a go!
Just because I'm lazy, would you post the .apk? You can find it in /data/app.
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I would, if I still had it installed Its from the google play store, it shouldnt be that bad to download it there
Wow! That app is better than sliced bread
Back in the day I used to run the Virtual TI on my laptop to show students what I was talking about and to run various lab instruments for demo purposes. I don't imagine I could do that with this app but I bet it would run an isotope half-life simulation I wrote for the calculator. Gotta try and dig that up just for fun.
Thanks for mentioning the app!
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I would, if I still had it installed Its from the google play store, it shouldnt be that bad to download it there
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True, but not true - I don't have Play installed and don't want to go through all the trouble of downloading multiple wrong-version .apks from the Internet. That's why it'd be great if you could post the .apk.
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True, but not true - I don't have Play installed and don't want to go through all the trouble of downloading multiple wrong-version .apks from the Internet. That's why it'd be great if you could post the .apk.
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I don't have my Nook in front of me now, so I can't tell you version compatibility, but I got it on my phone. I have posted the *.apk here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ro0q5bwua4xyxkr/net.supware.tipro-1.apk?dl=0
For legal reasons, I can't include the ROM image of course, but you can find it elsewhere. It is suggested to pull it straight from a real calculator, but mine's an NSpire with an 84 keypad, which doesn't allow you to image the 84 ROM for some reason, and the images from TI's website don't work, so I'm at a loss with this app.
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I don't have my Nook in front of me now, so I can't tell you version compatibility, but I got it on my phone. I have posted the *.apk here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ro0q5bwua4xyxkr/net.supware.tipro-1.apk?dl=0
For legal reasons, I can't include the ROM image of course, but you can find it elsewhere. It is suggested to pull it straight from a real calculator, but mine's an NSpire with an 84 keypad, which doesn't allow you to image the 84 ROM for some reason, and the images from TI's website don't work, so I'm at a loss with this app.
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Okay, I'll try that link.
Kind of lost on the other stuff
So I got the chance to load Andie on my Nook (the version in my Dropbox works). Works like a charm! Attached are some pics. As far as obtaining a ROM goes, you can get WabbitEmu (on a newer device of course) and use that to compile a ROM (I think the 83 Plus is the newest that Andie supports). From there, extract it from /data/user/0/com.Revsoft.Wabbitemu/cache/ (the file should be named "calculator name.ROM) and copy it to the Nook's SD card (anywhere is fine as long as it's on the card).