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Disclaimer: everything discussed here is for educational purpose only etc...
OK, so from June 12 this Hell act will take effect in UK, and downloading Torrents etc will become difficult, as ISPs to disclose details of customers who repeatedly infringe copyright, with a possible fine of £250,000 for non-compliance and requirement that ISPs block access to sites that allow "substantial" infringement as well as disconnecting users from Internet etc...
more info @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Economy_Act_2010
so, we all know we download Music and TV series etc...
how are we gonna protect our self from this ACT ?
Encryption is one idea, but encryption have to be done on both sides of the connection so this could be tricky....
any thought on the issue ?
Such ideas are preposterous, as they simply bypass Global Internet Neutrality.
IP-Spoofs and Proxies will always HELP protect the user, but the easiest way to prevent "being caught" if you're doing something you legally should not be, is to create a Private Domain amongst either a Router itself, or a Protected Virtual Machine.
Preferably a Virtual Machine due to the odd ports they access for Internet Access, plus, if "Big Brother" were to kick down your door... Most Protected Virtual Machines (Example:: Virtual Machine Encrypted with Bit-locker Technology) can take several months or years to "break into" for data... unless of course, you have the Key RIGHT THERE in hands reach.
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Virtual Machine Encrypted with Bit-locker Technology) can take several months or years to "break into" for data...
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I'm not sure but aren't law enforcements have some sort of agreement with MS to have backdoor in to windows and BitLocker or something ? (maybe just a roomer i heard somewhere)
with IP-spoofing and Proxies, would that still not be traceable ? and also sow down connection badly ?
i mean when i in Russia i don't use any sort of proxies or anything just download things if Rapidshare and Pirate Bay as it is and i get good 1 or 2MB/s most of the time,
but in UK even now the Uni giving me the headache with their firewalls and WebSence...
i have to RDP all my downloads back in Russia and then send them as files to myself on like Microsoft Skydrive and other online hostings that Uni dosent block (Rapidshare and Depositfiles, iFolder are all blocked)
next year mm no longer living on campus and will have my own network contract with ISP and this D.E.2010ACT
worry me... I'm mean i on average download 30 - 40GB a week, that just on torrents...
one idea is to there a way to encrypt and tunnel all the Traffic form UK PC to Russia and back so ISP see nothing at all just flow of Encrypted data ? and how this can be achieved ?
and also what are the Chances of PirateBay and Utorrent incorporating some sort of Privacy features to it ? like utorrent have encryption but initial connection is still open
Well, honestly, due to Privacy Laws, unless a Windows User is a KNOWN convict, thief, or pedofile, allowing Law Enforcement backdoor access to ALL Windows Users is, again, violating Net Neutrality AND ones Privacy. Anyone and EVERYONE can be "violated" via malware.. and have their PC/Laptop turned into a Server for hosting & sharing illegal content, so there are SEVERAL conflicting issues with this.. atleast in the US. [As the user is not at fault. Their security software would be.] The same reason that most Professionals against the Digital Economy Act worry about Open Access Points.
And for Encrypting & Tunneling traffic, torrent sites, as well as other file sharing sites, would have to incorporate Server-Side Security. Massive 128 bit or even 256 bit encryption. Also, the user, us, would have to mirror the security methods these sites are using. So it would cause a "Worm Hole" through Internet Traffic Space.. thus making it look like the downloaded files came from no-where, and went no-where.
Such security and encryption methods could require several man-hours to "Up-Hold" as well as Maintain. So such an act could cause either Global Domain Dominance or the death of sites we all enjoy today.
AgentZach, I think you might want to brush up on your english skills. In no way is "Server" meant to be capitalized, among other clear mistakes that make you impossible to understand. But I digress. Most of the law isn't all that bad, however, I'm troubled by this, "the requirement that ISPs block access to sites that allow "substantial" infringement[4]." That could be a real issue. As for backdoor access, I'm pretty damn sure that violates multiple laws, plus how the hell would microsoft know what only you know?
Well, honestly, due to Privacy Laws, unless a Windows User is a KNOWN convict, thief, or pedofile, allowing Law Enforcement backdoor access to ALL Windows Users is, again, violating Net Neutrality AND ones Privacy
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How exactly does accessing someones files violate net neutrality law? It doesn't even currently exist, thanks to our beloved Bush administration, net neutrality is treating all traffic equally. Plus, even being a known criminal does not give law enforcement the right to search your personal things without a warrant of some fashion.
TLDR:
Don't use torrents without a vpn. ..Or the internet.
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AgentZach, I think you might want to brush up on your english skills. In no way is "Server" meant to be capitalized, among other clear mistakes that make you impossible to understand. But I digress. Most of the law isn't all that bad, however, I'm troubled by this, "the requirement that ISPs block access to sites that allow "substantial" infringement[4]." That could be a real issue. As for backdoor access, I'm pretty damn sure that violates multiple laws, plus how the hell would microsoft know what only you know?
How exactly does accessing someones files violate net neutrality law? It doesn't even currently exist, thanks to our beloved Bush administration, net neutrality is treating all traffic equally. Plus, even being a known criminal does not give law enforcement the right to search your personal things without a warrant of some fashion.
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Don't use torrents without a vpn. ..Or the internet.
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GTFO. Who signs up just to be a smartass?
Plus, your TLDR didn't do anything except sum up what he was saying. With a tad bit of extra stupidity.
Oh, English IS ment to be capitalized. How are you going to insult someone's English and miss the most important word in the sentence. Rofflecakes.
In no way is "Server" meant to be capitalized, among other clear mistakes that make you impossible to understand.
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In no way is "server" (don't reinvent the mistake, that's just sloppy) meant to be capitalized, and among with other clear mistakes, you are impossible to understand. (You didn't accidentally the whole thing, did you?)
I could go on, but you get the picture. Don't insult until you have the grounds to do so.
@ r3s-rt: Thanks for putting your boot up his/her ass.
I admit, I was half asleep when I typed that up... as it was 3AM my time, and I had a long Mothers Day with my family. I expected flaws, but as long as my main points were said correctly, "spelling & capitalization correct or not - sorry Adolf" I think I've shard my opinion.
The important thing is: Users, who intend to break the law on the internet, must lose their solo dependency for Security Suite software, and start learning how encryption and Virtual Private Networks work, as a whole. It's not only their ass they'll be saving. They'll be saving all of the rest of a torrents "seeders" who haven't stepped-up their games yet...
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@ r3s-rt: Thanks for putting your boot up his/her ass.
I admit, I was half asleep when I typed that up... as it was 3AM my time, and I had a long Mothers Day with my family. I expected flaws, but as long as my main points were said correctly, "spelling & capitalization correct or not - sorry Adolf" I think I've shard my opinion.
The important thing is: Users, who intend to break the law on the internet, must lose their solo dependency for Security Suite software, and start learning how encryption and Virtual Private Networks work, as a whole. It's not only their ass they'll be saving. They'll be saving all of the rest of a torrents "seeders" who haven't stepped-up their games yet...
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No problem, I can't stand people who attack other people and then make the same mistake their attacking. Plus, who cares if your English is exactly perfect? As long as it's READABLE. That's the only time English becomes a problem.
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lolwat?
I've always wondered one thing. I don't know much exactly how they work - I just know I need protection.
People who download and don't seed.... do they even have a chance at getting caught? I honestly wouldn't figure they would. Maybe for like.... 20 min they have a chance then what? Do they just disappear? I use a site where you actually have to keep an upload/download ratio just for the reason I hate leeches.
Also, stay away from public torrent sites is probably a good idea. THOSE are the ones they get all your info from.
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I've always wondered one thing. I don't know much exactly how they work - I just know I need protection.
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For "Basic" security and encryption, without much manual handling, I'd recommend using either Kaspersky Internet Security 2010 or Norton Internet Security 2010 (or 360 v4).
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People who download and don't seed.... do they even have a chance at getting caught? I honestly wouldn't figure they would. Maybe for like.... 20 min they have a chance then what? Do they just disappear? I use a site where you actually have to keep an upload/download ratio just for the reason I hate leeches.
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Well, getting caught, without seeding, varies upon the host/torrent site. Private Sites like Demonoid save logs for User Ratio data... and that Ratio data includes your IP Address you use when downloading & uploading torrents. Now if you were to use a Proxy, you may get a tad bit slower connection speed, but your TRUE IP Address would be "spoofed" to the Proxy IP. In other words, the host of the Proxy would be investigated, not you.
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Also, stay away from public torrent sites is probably a good idea. THOSE are the ones they get all your info from.
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Good idea, and true. Most public trackers display all seeding & leeching data to anyone interested.. but the same goes as I've said above. Proxies may cut your speeds, but does speed really have more importance than your personal safety & privacy?
I'll leave that for you all to decide.
To be a smartass ain't why I signed up, and sorry if it seemed that way. Since you want to be a douche I'll speak your language - at least my TLDR made some sense, unlike his entire post.
But while we're on the topic of stupidity;
"Global Internet Neutrality
IP-Spoofs
Private Domain amongst either a Router itself, or a Protected Virtual Machine.
Preferably a Virtual Machine due to the odd ports they access for Internet Access
Virtual Machine Encrypted with Bit-locker Technology"
Just what is this "Global internet neutrality"? We're having a hard enough time trying to hold on to such in our OWN country, and other countries have none, so- doesn't exist.
"IP spoofs"- ANY idea how the internet actually works? Not possible to just arbitrarily IP spoof, you need special conditions.
"Private Domain"? Hurf durf, what? How's it work, what IS it?
"a virtual machine due to the odd ports they use for internet access"? WHAT are you takling about, have you ever actually USED a VM? Going by that comment I doubt it. I give up.
I can tell I'm talking to an avid 4chan lover. Good luck finding anyone who can understand what he's saying, I personally left my decoder ring at home.
Stop trying so hard, get enough sleep and have some caffeine, it'll do you good and you just may come across as halfway coherent next time. And maybe try to stop using large words on the net, because you're doing it totally out of context (which makes you look stupider than i'd like to believe you are)
The English syntax really wasn't the issue here, just that it was way off base and incomprehensible. Don't talk about something unless you have at least a BASIC idea of how it works. The RIAA and MPAA go after people who seed mainly. Private torrent sites are overrated and just not worth it- keeping a ratio mostly requires a seedbox so you don't get banned.
And the culmination of my wall of text, anyone who puts "Number of bricks to date:0" in their sig really shouldn't go attacking others. True men actually try to brick their **** and don't brag when they haven't.
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To be a smartass ain't why I signed up, and sorry if it seemed that way. Since you want to be a douche I'll speak your language - at least my TLDR made some sense, unlike his entire post.
But while we're on the topic of stupidity;
"Global Internet Neutrality
IP-Spoofs
Private Domain amongst either a Router itself, or a Protected Virtual Machine.
Preferably a Virtual Machine due to the odd ports they access for Internet Access
Virtual Machine Encrypted with Bit-locker Technology"
Just what is this "Global internet neutrality"? We're having a hard enough time trying to hold on to such in our OWN country, and other countries have none, so- doesn't exist.
"IP spoofs"- ANY idea how the internet actually works? Not possible to just arbitrarily IP spoof, you need special conditions.
"Private Domain"? Hurf durf, what? How's it work, what IS it?
"a virtual machine due to the odd ports they use for internet access"? WHAT are you takling about, have you ever actually USED a VM? Going by that comment I doubt it. I give up.
I can tell I'm talking to an avid 4chan lover. Good luck finding anyone who can understand what he's saying, I personally left my decoder ring at home.
Stop trying so hard, get enough sleep and have some caffeine, it'll do you good and you just may come across as halfway coherent next time. And maybe try to stop using large words on the net, because you're doing it totally out of context (which makes you look stupider than i'd like to believe you are)
The English syntax really wasn't the issue here, just that it was way off base and incomprehensible. Don't talk about something unless you have at least a BASIC idea of how it works. The RIAA and MPAA go after people who seed mainly. Private torrent sites are overrated and just not worth it- keeping a ratio mostly requires a seedbox so you don't get banned.
And the culmination of my wall of text, anyone who puts "Number of bricks to date:0" in their sig really shouldn't go attacking others. True men actually try to brick their **** and don't brag when they haven't.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_neutrality - lol. Wow, kid. Get on Google if you don't know what something is. =]
Proxies - Safer than using your regular IP, genius. If they weren't, we wouldn't use them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_privacy - Again, you NEED to Google.
About the seeding - we have a leech! Private sites ARE worth it. If you were even worthy to get an invite, you'd know. Let me guess, the most private site you know is Demonoid. *chuckle*
Avid 4chaner? Only a real /b/rother would be able to tell that.
And the culmination of my wall of text, anyone who puts "Number of bricks to date:0" in their sig really shouldn't go attacking others. True men actually try to brick their **** and don't brag when they haven't.
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You are COMPLETELY retarded. If I wanted to brick my phone, I'd flash a nasty spl or a nasty radio or Danger SPL before a compatible radio with an imcompatible recovery. IF you knew ANYTHING about rooting as you say you do, you would understand that. You'd also know you are considered an idiot if you brick your phone. I think you just earned a spot in my signature as "worlds dumbest quote."
Little kids need to get off the internet and go to bed, mommy would be very mad if she discovered the bad words you were using.
Now, how about you stop trying to start a flame war and just shut up? You already look VERY stupid along with a tad bit pathetic.
The RIAA and MPAA go after people who seed mainly.
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Didn't they do a bust down on a lot of college students? Yea, THOSE are our "main seeders." ROFL. Moron. They go after anyone they can get a hand on if they consider it worthy of an actual lawsuit. You'd know this if you ever read news.
Point blank, please stop throwing up in threads like you even know something. EVERYTHING you've said so far is either WRONG or STUPID. The last thing we need at xda are more idiots. :/ Please, gtfo.
Ohhhh, your TLDR said EXACTLY what he said in layman's terms. He at least has the brains to explain what he's saying. You just copy what he said and tried to make it look like your own. Sorry, bro, just don't respond. You've already dug too deep.
I have no idea what he just said. He just typed up about 200 words of pointless garbage... and wasted a post in this thread.
Officially, just from reading the first 10 words, I got dumber.
And once again, thanx r3s-rt for translating my words into "retard-speak" for him. It seems even the "dumbed down" version of my posts are too complex for him to understand.
LOL @ your links. Maybe he'll learn something new today.
Guys please - we're getting to the stage of - stop the agro or it's close it time - and I've got enough guys on my watch list without adding more!
Mike
My apologies.
Ditto.
10 char. :X
Perhaps the MPAA and RIAA should give up their tirades--after all, the United States has the lowest piracy rate of any country in the world, at just 20 percent.
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So it seems not so bad. Either the US really does have the lowest Piracy percentage in the world... or the US Pirates are just a tad more secure.
Read HERE.
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I just know I need protection.
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Use a condom???
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Use a condom???
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Lame but funny
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So it seems not so bad. Either the US really does have the lowest Piracy percentage in the world... or the US Pirates are just a tad more secure.
Read HERE.
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Wow. I would have figured it would have been the HIGHEST. If not, at least towards the top of the list. o.o
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Use a condom???
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I'm not a tory supporter (Voted Lib Dem for what it is worth) but we can hope this is true
Damn it, I'm not allowed to post any links but Techradar is reporting that the conservatives may well ditch the entire thing which we can hope is true
Odd question but does anyone know how to trick the nook into thinking it is in a Barnes and Noble. I'm not quite sure how the instore wifi is set up but if I could reproduce it at home then I could use the read instore to try out books with out leaving the house. Any ideas?
No, you can't. You have to be connected to their router.
BTW, your other post said you work for B&N. Why are you asking us?
Wow I think I only made one post before and you bring up something I don't remember saying from what would have been 8 or 9 months ago. At any rate I never had access to the router. I wasn't IT(not to mention ATT handles that.) At any rate it still seems like one could mimic the settings of the B&N Store access point so that the nook would think that it was in a store.
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Wow I think I only made one post before and you bring up something I don't remember saying from what would have been 8 or 9 months ago. At any rate I never had access to the router. I wasn't IT(not to mention ATT handles that.) At any rate it still seems like one could mimic the settings of the B&N Store access point so that the nook would think that it was in a store.
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The settings are in the router, not the Nook. The store has software tracking who is logged in and for how long.
Yes of of course the settings are in the "router." Well most of them. The nook itself is programmed to respond a certain way to those settings or configuration. The trick is to find out what the settings are so that I can reproduce them which is the whole point of me asking the bleeding question. You keep saying the same thing which is so obvious that it shouldn't even be mentioned!
The router is running special software that you need to access b and n's database. If your router doesn't have it then it won't work. Without the router logged into the database you can do all the tricks you want but your never getting access. Also all the books might be stored on a local intranet which is very difficult to access
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The book is the same as the books I buy, same key and everything except it has a time limit built in which locks it after a hour. The nook is programmed to purge certain files after about an hour though. As far as special "software" I will have to look into it. What brand hardware they are using, Mac address, SSID(which it appears they don't broadcast,) etc. It doesn't seem like "software" is the answer and there is no local DB onsite. LATER!
Most likely, when the Nook sees it's on the B&N wifi network, it authenticates itself to a server behind a B&N firewall that's only accessible from the B&N store network. You can't get to that server from the internet, so "tricking" your Nook by setting up your home wifi to use the B&N SSID won't do anything. It'll try to authenticate to the server, fail, and you won't get the access you're trying to obtain.
already thought of that. was going to dig through some of the files on the nook to force the "switch" to be turned on for instore but then relised that i don't really care that much. was an interesting idea...
You keep saying the same thing which is so obvious that it shouldn't even be mentioned!
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And yet everyone else has said the same thing which is "You can't do it", but maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that........
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was going to dig through some of the files on the nook to force the "switch" to be turned on for instore but then relised that i don't really care that much.
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I still don't think you're getting it. It doesn't matter what your Nook thinks. The B&N servers won't give you free books for an hour if you're not authenticated through their wifi network. The only way to get the free books is for your Nook to exchange credentials with those servers, and you can't access those servers from outside the B&N network.
You can tell a bouncer at an exclusive party that you're an important famous guy, but if your name isn't on the guest list, he's not going to let you in. Your Nook doesn't control the guest list, B&N's servers do.
I think he gets it now.....
No, everyone is not saying the same thing as you. It's just you. So far all you are doing is NOT getting how things work behind the scenes and yet still fell the need to say something(anything) so that you feel like you contributed to the conversation. Well guess what you did. It just wasn't helpful.
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First of all you can take your sanctimonious attitude and shove it. Where do you get off... Secondly, THERE IS NO bouncer! There is No VIP room! There is NO flippin' guest list. Your analogy makes absolutely no sense! What the nook can see is dependent on several things but things can always be spoofed, changed or otherwise circumvented. As for the "B&N servers," it's the same server for everyone. It doesn't have special areas for people who happen to be instore. I would explain further how the B&N site(and yes it's just a part of bn.com) but really what's the point. You won't get it. Now if there is someone here that works for barnes and noble IT, someone who knows the ins-and-outs of how the nook downloads books, gains access to the instore content and so on please fell free to educate "Skunkeye." If you don't work for B&N in some sort of website/IT/tech side of the things then please don't post. This conversation doesn't really need to limp on without and reasonable answer or ideas.
And thirdly, I asked a simple question to which the answer wasn't really that important to me in the first place. I expected the question to be ignored but I didn't expect this kind of attitude for no reason. It doesn't matter The answer to the question that I posed really doesn't matter but if you dare talk to me like that again "I will hunt you down and hobble both your legs right above the knees."
See ya, I'm bored now.
Dude, its not going to happen unless you talk tot the guy who set up the system and get him to tell you to exactly how it works. No one here has that information.
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if you dare talk to me like that again
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You might want to review the thread and see who the one with the bad attitude is. You were an asshole from the beginning. Grow up, kid.
I'd like to stop by and mention that this thread has been immensely entertaining to read. Thanks, vicshot
I'm suprised no one has mentioned it but what he wants to do is theft. Even if the books are only trials, he's still stealing them, not to mention the proprietary systems he would have to have to get the books.
Bet he's a real devil with the ladies.
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I'm suprised no one has mentioned it but what he wants to do is theft. Even if the books are only trials, he's still stealing them, not to mention the proprietary systems he would have to have to get the books.
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Someone probably would have mentioned it earlier if they thought there was a chance he'd succeed.
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I'd like to stop by and mention that this thread has been immensely entertaining to read. Thanks, vicshot
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Yes, it has indeed.
You knew it was only a matter of time before someone figured out a way to fill their wallets off users by annoying them to death..
http://bgr.com/2014/02/12/chromecast-ads-coming-soon/
I will copy and paste a reply I left about this on Reddit
I can see it now for apps like Plex when Casting goes free (whenever that happens)
"We will Cast your content right after this short advertisement"
So sick of in app ads, so sick of freemium, so sick of subscription services (ie: PlexPass etc), so sick of pay to win games, so sick of every Android developer (not every, but you get the point) nickel and diming the piss out of users either with ads or micro-transactions. Enough.. Just follow the PC software model that has worked for decades. A set price, minor upgrades are free, major revisions you re-pay. The Android software market is the biggest racket.
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So sick of in app ads, so sick of freemium, so sick of subscription services (ie: PlexPass etc), so sick of pay to win games, so sick of every Android developer (not every, but you get the point) nickel and diming the piss out of users either with ads or micro-transactions. Enough.. Just follow the PC software model that has worked for decades. A set price, minor upgrades are free, major revisions you re-pay. The Android software market is the biggest racket.
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While I agree, the trouble is that video content doesn't really work like software. Every new episode would be a "major" release. It's not like you can release a movie in 2-minute segments. Well, maybe if you're J.J. Abrams...
I don't mind ads as long as I have the option to pay to get rid of them. Even Netflix could opt for a cheaper ad-supported tier if they wanted to.
To be honest, I like apps that are free with ads and paid without as it gives me a way to try the app for a period longer than the Play Store's 15 minutes.
[HOWTO] Chromecast/Netflix outside USA without VPN
Ad Blocking - DD-WRT Wiki
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To be honest, I like apps that are free with ads and paid without as it gives me a way to try the app for a period longer than the Play Store's 15 minutes.
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Or that too.
Brightcove is pretty big VOD provider, but yeah, that would work as long as the stuff you want to watch isn't hosted there.
YouTube could be uber sneaky and host the ads on YouTube itself so then it would be all-or-nothing.
On the plus side, YouTube could become the resurrection of AdCritic. I miss that site...
Talk about a blast from the past. Have you seen -
http://creativity-online.com/
I think everybody is struggling to find ways to make money from this technology. Google doesn't make any money on the hardware, and consumers just don't want to pay much for software (which is why the old PC software business model is gradually failing, and you see even companies like Microsoft going to Office 365-type subscriptions). So the result is they have to find a way to make money from subscriptions, fees, and/or advertising.
Google aren't the only ones considering advertising. Mozilla just announced that they're going to start putting ads in Firefox, inserted in the page of recent sites that appears when you open a new tab.
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you see even companies like Microsoft going to Office 365-type subscriptions). So the result is they have to find a way to make money from subscriptions, fees, and/or advertising.
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The worst thing I've encountered so far with the subscription model is how it virally forces others to buy in.
Case-in-point, I got an Adobe InDesign file that I needed to look at. Fine, I have InDesign CS6. I load it up, and it tells me I can't open it because it was made in InDesign CS7.5
At least Microsoft has Office viewers. I was stuck with the InDesign thing - either go back and ask for a flattened version or subscribe, luckily I had the opportunity to just ignore it.
Like freedom, free software truly isn't free - at least not as long as people need to eat and pay bills. Renewable energy and homesteading may be the zero-cash way, but then we won't have enough time to code!
Maybe we need to come up with some "business productive" games. People-powered OCR Hangman?
Well I'll repeat something else I said
I'm guilty of being an old timer. I came into Android with 1.5 (CupCake).. The Market and Android community used to be a thriving community of freeware, innovation and great discussion.. I just hate what it turned into. It's like a gold rush and the end user is the gold and everyone is trying to sell you their bridge. I just hate how it got like this. I don't mind paying for stuff but it seem anymore it's a constant and quality has taken a back seat. It's like people stopped doing this for fun and a hobby and started trying to make a business.. Anything that is anything that is in demand someone will find a way to charge you for now a days.
P.S. I don't mind subscription services like Netflix etc. Dumb stuff like Plex Pass is a joke though. You're subbing monthly to unlock in-app features. Doesn't make any sense..
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I think everybody is struggling to find ways to make money from this technology. Google doesn't make any money on the hardware...
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Do we really know that?
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...tions-despite-strong-nexus-5-chromecast-sales
Biggest seller or a best seller in Q4 2013, depending how you take that article.
The packaging probably costs nearly as much as the product.
True, when it's easy for lots of people to make apps, the market gets crowded and confused.
Doesn't help that the rating system doesn't take into account that people use ratings maliciously to complain or penalize the developer for things often that are user error or out of the dev's control.
PlexPass gives other things like their cloud thing, but yeah, it is kind of "pay to be in the beta club" but hey, if it works for them, funds their continued development, and people are willing to pay, I don't have to like it, but I can't really criticize them either.
And with the $75 PlexPass lifetime, it's the same cost as a mid-range piece of software.
On Google profits, I'm sure Chromecast sold well, we can see from the lack of rootable units on shelves...
Of course they won't tell us how much they're making (or losing) on each sale. I bet most of the profit was Google Play.
I just doubt that they lost any money at $35 a pop - until the accountants got involved, because their job is to cover that up. Not whining or ranting, just stating a known part of the corporate income game.
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I just doubt that they lost any money at $35 a pop - until the accountants got involved, because their job is to cover that up. Not whining or ranting, just stating a known part of the corporate income game.
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True. Especially given the volume they produced at, I'm sure they negotiated some killer discounts with the manufacturers. :good:
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True. Especially given the volume they produced at, I'm sure they negotiated some killer discounts with the manufacturers. :good:
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http://www.linkedin.com/jobs2/view/7070288
Job's open.
My issue is not with the ads being there, this is a Google device so ads were to be expected be it from Google or someone else. My issue is with it being video ads, my DSL line is shaped during the day and I don't need this hogging the bandwidth preloading videos while I am trying to browse the web. I wish my country would get "first" world in terms of broadband just so this [email protected] stops bugging me...
/fingers crossed Eureka guys ad-block this .
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I don't think Google is losing money on the Chromecast hardware, at least not deliberately. But I do think they priced it not to make any money on the hardware.
Think about it:
- Google is not a hardware company. They deliberately try to stay out of the hardware business because they realize that the margins are really low. They make their money on fees and services. They only introduce hardware products as an enabler to get new things started.
- They are undercutting everybody else on price to have the cheapest brand-name media streamer. It's in the same price range as the cheapest Chinese no-name Android TV sticks.
- They introduced the Chromecast with an offer for 3 months free Netflix, which is 2 months more than Netflix normally offers. That's a $16 value for which Google undoubtedly compensated Netflix, although probably at a discounted rate. When Chromecast sales took off the first day, Google canceled that offer immediately, indicating both that they had allocated a limited budget for it, and that the price of the Chromecast would not bear it without losing money.
I'm very confused. So someone created a SDK for developers to include ads on Chromecast apps and people here are upset by this? Please tell me why.
We should keep in mind here, it's not Google inserting ads here, it's Brightcove who is enabling developers to insert video ads compatible with Chromecast. As the title of the linked article says, "Third Party Provides Way For Developers To Add Ads To Chromecast"
I doubt Google will see any of this revenue as Brightcove built this technology using the Cast SDK for their engine.
The key part here, and I could be totally off-base, is that it sounds like a library that a developer would add to their app - essentially using Brightcove's "Cast" function and player. That makes sense since Brightcove has an HTML5 player already in use by sites on the web.
For example, instead of developing my own HTML5 page that Chromecast would go to in order to play a video, I would just trigger the Brightcove "Cast" function, passing it the location and my key/ID. Chromecast would then run the Brightcove player app which plays the video content I chose with inserted ads. The fact that it's being advertised as "seamless" tells me the ads are being stitched into the video content and delivered as a single stream, rather than a playlist drawing from separate sources.
Aside from ad revenue, the huge plus for developers here is that Chromecast-enabled apps wouldn't even need to use the Cast SDK directly, because they're using the Brightcove casting engine. That means the specific Chromecast-enabled app wouldn't need to be on the whitelist or register with Google because it's really the Brightcove app that Chromecast is running. Brightcove is responsible for making sure the engine keeps up with Chromecast updates and changes so that's another burden off the developer.
A "no ads" version of an app that uses the Brightcove player may use the same request to Brightcove, just with a flag saying not to insert the ads. The "gotcha" here is that because Brightcove is the player for the video content the app uses, blocking Brightcove or the Brightcove app would block all casted video from the app.
Of course Brightcove probably shares in the ad revenue, so maybe they won't allow developers to use their engine without ads, in which case the theorized advantages to the developer go away for a "no ads" version as they'd still need to register and use the Cast SDK directly.
But likely Brightcove may take the gamble that enough people are cheap and use ad-supported versions that it covers the paid apps that aren't showing ads. Or maybe part of their developer agreement makes the developer pay for non-ad versions somehow. Just theorizing from the business perspective...
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So sick of in app ads, so sick of freemium, so sick of subscription services (ie: PlexPass etc), so sick of pay to win games, so sick of every Android developer (not every, but you get the point) nickel and diming the piss out of users either with ads or micro-transactions. Enough.. Just follow the PC software model that has worked for decades. A set price, minor upgrades are free, major revisions you re-pay. The Android software market is the biggest racket.
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Thank you Sir, these are true words. I agree you to 100%
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Just follow the PC software model that has worked for decades.
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The PC software model had very few ongoing costs. You boxed up a CD and after that, the costs you incurred were mostly just support costs. Streaming video is not cheap. If you plan on charging once in a lifetime, then you will be out of business very quickly.
@DJames1 - those are good points, I'd like to counter with what the market will bear.
After the Google TV and Nexus Q flops, I don't think that Chromecast could have done better at a higher price point, even if it started out with more apps and features. I think that they had to plan for this price point and knew that going in.
As for the initial Netflix deal, I don't know if anyone besides the accountants know how that worked. Not a personal criticism, just saying - Netflix has a vested interest in DIAL succeeding. It makes secure delivery easy for them. Their revenue models for this sort of thing aren't trivial, see Roku's license deal for example.
Netflix will give newcomers a free month for watching Philip DeFranco on YouTube.
So between their giveaway budget for promotions, surely compensated in part by the content providers and anything paid back by Google in the form of free advertising, I think that entire initial allocation for Netflix with Google was all virtual money, if such a thing exists. Iow, lots of return on investment on both sides but actual investment costs in real dollars - closer to zero.
@bhiga - agree. This reminds me of the AirPush SDK, and quite a few others who seek out devs with revenue schemes.
Hi guys. I'm starting this thread in hopes of sparking a conversation and a concerted effort to rid ourselves as users from the clutches of Google and other big tech companies. I am sick and tired of Google tracking me and attempting to force feed me ads on a daily send constant basis. Then selling my info to other companies such as Facebook. So, I have started down the path of decluttering (De-Google-ing) my device(s). I am primarily interested in securing my device as much as possible and protecting my privacy.
So far, I have reformatted my entire device to factory default settings installed and using F-Droid (FOSS) for all my apps. I use Yandex as my search engine (I am often to suggestions and recommendations) in the "private browser" app. I use Aurora instead of Google Play store, New Pipe for YouTube-ing, Frost for Facebookingand SlimSocial for Twitter. I have stopped using Google keyboard and any other Google apps. I have abandoned gmail and replaced it with proton mail instead. So far, no ads and as far as I can tell, no tracking. I have also installed a VPN and am using it religiously—Cyber Ghost, a $99 for 3 years subscription with support up to 8 devices.
However, I am still very much connected to Samsung for I am not privy as to whether or not Samsung is as sinister as Google and Facebook.
Again, I am open to all suggestions, corrections and recommendations. Thank you and I hope to engage with you all.
leave it up to them yandex russians to protect your privacy.
but seriously. the most dangerous thing you can do is acctualy think that the steps you take are really making your life private.
vpns just channel the traffic to an other end point and does the queries for you then sends the data encrypted to you.
the queries are still made on the www. account info and all things you store or access online is still accessible by the www. vpn companies just fool you into thinking that the data being relayed to you is the only weak link. plus the free ones mine your data.
best thing you can do is not use social media. its made to invade your privacy. its designed to fool you into giving as much of your personal life info as possible and sell your habits to add companies so they can in turn send you quatered adds.
the minute you use the internet you void your privacy regardless of how you think the measures you take are working or effective. and what are you going to do about the 100 and 1000's of companies being hacked and their data mined and sold every month? you cant do anything about that. plus its much better for hackers to get their info from a big company because you get much more than just 1 dude that does his banking online and chat every now and then.there is no money to be made from 1 individual.
if you think people are specifically after you, you are gravely being fooled by the vpn ad campaigns that have been poping up everywhere about "privacy".( they must hide the fact that they also get hacked very well.its just that the media hasint picked up on it yet)
anyways who want to waste time on an end user/device?
when again you just need to hack equifax like a few years back and you get the motherload instead.
all in all I've abandoned the thought of real privacy. its futile.( even abstinents dosen't work because companies and governments don't secure customer data correctly. and unfortunately if you are born, you must be branded and labeled and filed away.)
live your life. just know that what ever you do you can't escape big brother and your data from being leaked by the big companies that say that it is secured with them.
the whole infrastructure relies on them companies and the habits we have been embraining ourselves and our children with is the problem.. we live our lives intertwined with the services and devices that we take for granted and have clicked next next next through polices and consent forms for over 25 years now whithout even giving it a second though. we're in over our heads now and it is a little late to back out. this was al dine by design and all voluntarily. its crazy how marketing is evil.
a cabin in the woods is the easiest and most secure thing one can do. anything shy of that is a waste of time and a false feeling of privacy.
anyways I'm going around in circles now.
one thing for sure is that the criminals we think that we need cover from are not who we think they are.
they are the FCC dealing with big telcos, they are the big media giants spewing false information and fabricates facts. they are in our governments in the highest ranks pushing hidden agendas and most of all they are the big social media platforms remodeling our society each day under our noses at our expense.
but hey this is not new. the internet police is just tring to make you think it is and spend 9.99$ a month for a vpn lol
good luck.
I just stopped using as many Google apps as I can and switched over to MS Office apps and use Samsung services where I can too...
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leave it up to them yandex russians to protect your privacy.
but seriously. the most dangerous thing you can do is acctualy think that the steps you take are really making your life private.
vpns just channel the traffic to an other end point and does the queries for you then sends the data encrypted to you.
the queries are still made on the www. account info and all things you store or access online is still accessible by the www. vpn companies just fool you into thinking that the data being relayed to you is the only weak link. plus the free ones mine your data.
best thing you can do is not use social media. its made to invade your privacy. its designed to fool you into giving as much of your personal life info as possible and sell your habits to add companies so they can in turn send you quatered adds.
the minute you use the internet you void your privacy regardless of how you think the measures you take are working or effective. and what are you going to do about the 100 and 1000's of companies being hacked and their data mined and sold every month? you cant do anything about that. plus its much better for hackers to get their info from a big company because you get much more than just 1 dude that does his banking online and chat every now and then.there is no money to be made from 1 individual.
if you think people are specifically after you, you are gravely being fooled by the vpn ad campaigns that have been poping up everywhere about "privacy".( they must hide the fact that they also get hacked very well.its just that the media hasint picked up on it yet)
anyways who want to waste time on an end user/device?
when again you just need to hack equifax like a few years back and you get the motherload instead.
all in all I've abandoned the thought of real privacy. its futile.( even abstinents dosen't work because companies and governments don't secure customer data correctly. and unfortunately if you are born, you must be branded and labeled and filed away.)
live your life. just know that what ever you do you can't escape big brother and your data from being leaked by the big companies that say that it is secured with them.
the whole infrascturuce relies on them companies and the habits we have been embraining ourselves and our children with is the problem.. we live our lives intertwined with the services and devices that we take for granted and have clicked next next next through polices and consent forms for over 25 years now whithout even giving it a second though. we're in over our heads now and it is a little late to back out. this was al dine by design and all voluntarily. its crazy how marketing is evil.
a cabin in the woods is the easiest and most secure thing one can do. anything shy of that is a waste of time and a false feeling of privacy.
anyways I'm going around in circles now.
one thing for sure is that the criminals we think that we need cover from are not who we think they are.
they are the FCC dealing with big telcos, they are the big media giants spewing false information and fabricates facts. they are in our governments in the highest ranks pushing hidden agendas and most of all they are the big social media platforms remodeling our society each day under our noses at our expense.
but hey this is not new. the internet police is just tring to make you think it is and spend 9.99$ a month for a vpn lol
good luck.
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Oy vey! Thank you very much for yor contribution. It is very much appreciated and I see what you are saying.
AndroidUser00110001 said:
I just stopped using as many Google apps as I can and switched over to MS Office apps and use Samsung services where I can too...
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How has this been working out for you? What are your thoughts on Samsung's and Microsoft privacy policies etc?
Nonetheless, what are some good and viable alternatives to Google and optimally "securing" one's device (taking everything bober10113 has said).
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How has this been working out for you? What are your thoughts on Samsung's and Microsoft privacy policies etc?
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Like the other poster said, I gave up on worrying about privacy. I made the switch for other reasons and privacy was down on the list...
I just do not like what Goolge has been doing lately, especially blocking ad blockers soon in Chrome so I switched to MS Edge on Android and the Chromium version of Edge for desktop and the rest of the apps just followed through. I am seeing how the switch works for myself and if all goes well I will switch back to MS for the small company I work for.
I gave up on Gmail, Google Drive and all their office apps so far and I stopped using Nexus/Pixel phones for the first time in 10 years. I started with the S9+ which I enjoyed for a couple of months and then got a Note9 during a holiday special and now I cannot wait for the Note10.
Privacy is what it is nowadays... We should all own our data and if we choose to let be used as companies are doing now then we should get a slice of all the money being made but I doubt it will ever get to be something like that.
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How has this been working out for you? What are your thoughts on Samsung's and Microsoft privacy policies etc?
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I wouldn't think that they are any better than Google's. Majority of the companies out there that are international had to adhere to the EU rules of privacy, so a lot of them have adopted those standards. NOT ALL OF THEM. That's why all of a sudden you are getting new agreements from all the major companies that touch each section of land on the world.
I still don't trust any of them even to that point.
This is morbid. I have been thinking a lot more about death, debt, privacy and such, and I have come to the conclusion that I honestly don't care about my own anymore because it has been stolen, including my wife's. Future children though, I worry about them because you don't even have to mention their name on the internet and somehow every major company knows about them.
Ever had a conversation with someone without actually looking something up on the web, and then a day or two later Google and other ads start showing things concerning what you were talking about to someone in person? Yeah, it has happened to me numerous times now I can't even count anymore.
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Ever had a conversation with someone without actually looking something up on the web, and then a day or two later Google and other ads start showing things concerning what you were talking about to someone in person? Yeah, it has happened to me numerous times now I can't even count anymore.
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YES!!! I noticed this a few months ago. My wife and I were talking about some random subject and BAM there it was in my Google discovery feed.
I mentioned that to her and she thought I was crazy until it happened again.
My friend was over last week, he mentioned something about a car he is fixing up and once again in my Google feed...
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I am not going to go as far as saying they are listening because my wife did say she looked up what we were talking about later on that day on her phone so I am guessing it is more GPS based then Google listening to give them the benefit of doubt for now. I need to ask my friend if he searched anything while here...
You want to De-Google your phone? Sell it and don't get an Android phone. Don't get an iPhone, either. In fact, get one of those huge car phones from the 80s. I can't add really anything that hasn't been said, other than some slight humor, but again, if you want privacy, stay off the internet.
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YES!!! I noticed this a few months ago. My wife and I were talking about some random subject and BAM there it was in my Google discovery feed.
I mentioned that to her and she thought I was crazy until it happened again.
My friend was over last week, he mentioned something about a car he is fixing up and once again in my Google feed...
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I am not going to go as far as saying they are listening because my wife did say she looked up what we were talking about later on that day on her phone so I am guessing it is more GPS based then Google listening to give them the benefit of doubt for now. I need to ask my friend if he searched anything while here...
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This is what I'm trying to prevent. Exactly the same thing had happened to me. We were simply discussing an AC unit; never looked it up or mentioned the name of it and the exact make and model in the room we were in showed up.
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This is what I'm trying to prevent. Exactly the same thing had happened to me. We were simply discussing an AC unit; never looked it up or mentioned the name of it and the exact make and model in the room we were in showed up.
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Yeah it's super duper creepy. Funny thing is since I refreshed my Note 9 up to PIE, I haven't given assistant or google search any permission to use my microphone and I don't even have them setup!
this might help:
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/6030020?co=GENIE.Platform=Android&hl=en
turn voice activity off. also check your history to see if it has any recording...
Completely computer code illiterate. Have some rudimentary knowledge of computer use ......but, .....that's about it.
Bought an LG V40 ThinQ, SKU: LMV405QA7 .AUSABK, in 2019 directly from the manufacturer. I never activated it, never used it. It's been sitting, brand new in the box, ever since. I didn't want to go the same route I did prior -- allowing all the outside control of my device -- facilitating all the snooping upon me, i.e. data collection of my private personal information ......and life.
I have spent the duration of time, since purchase of this phone, attempting to educate myself; as to, how to free myself of the surveilance on me by corporate America.
Unfortunately, I have since learned: the LG V40 was much more complicated to take control of, than other phones. Atleast, more than the general skill set of the layman would allow.
I am here seeking the knowledge and power of XDA's developers, to free myself, like so many others -- and protect what remain of my civil liberties, from the surveillance state.
Respectfully,
Alex
Welcome to XDA.
If you're concerned about privacy I would unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM without Google services. It won't be perfect but a little less data will be transferred. Maybe something like a PinePhone would be better for privacy, or better yet an old time "dumbphone"...
You should be able to find most of the info you need in the LG V40 section of the forums. Check it out...
And just a heads-up: keep the politics off the forum. To quote the forum rules:
2.4 Personal attacks, racial, political and / or religious discussions: XDA is a discussion forum about certain mobile phones. Mobile phones are not racial, political, religious or personally offensive and therefore, none of these types of discussions are permitted on XDA.
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Again, welcome and I hope you have a good experience here on XDA.
Step 1 - abandon or delete FB, Twitter, Instagram, WhatsApp etc accounts.
Extreme - Get burner phone with prepaid minutes paid with cash. Power down when not using. Don't use at home or familiar/same locations. Toss as needed, repeat
They use voice recognition algorithms so they can likely ID you by voice probably in real time.
NASA surveillance has been online for a while now... and is far more capable than they like you to know. It effectively has unlimited storage capacity for all voice calls, text, internet activity and more.
Didgeridoohan said:
Welcome to XDA.
If you're concerned about privacy I would unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM without Google services. It won't be perfect but a little less data will be transferred. Maybe something like a PinePhone would be better for privacy, or better yet an old time "dumbphone"...
You should be able to find most of the info you need in the LG V40 section of the forums. Check it out...
And just a heads-up: keep the politics off the forum. To quote the forum rules:
Again, welcome and I hope you have a good experience here on XDA.
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Thank you much for your reply, guidance, and help, Didgeridoohan.
I was happy to see, layman or not, I was, atleast, on the right track with some things. I have been utilizing the "dumb phones". Mostly, flip phones from yester-year; mostly a decade old or more. The problem I am running into with those: the 2G and 3G bands they operate on are being discontinued by more and more cellular providers. By some time in 2022, most of my dumb phones will nolonger be operational.
Regarding the Pine phone, is was nice to see, I was on the right track there. I will indeed continue to investigate that phone, and see what is possible there.
I'd love to unlock the bootloader of my LG V40, and install that Googleless ROM, as suggested. It looks pretty complicated to accomplish though, on a LG V40 (unlocked, US version); and, I am a likely brick candidate, if there ever was one. Hoping to figure out what is possible for me by talking to you guys; then, move on from there, to what I can safely accomplish myself.
I'd love to get Microsoft and Google off my machines and devices; and, still have decent avenues to keep doing the stuff I have been doing. Speaking of which, any recommendations for the computer programming ignorant and novice still wanting near Microsoft OS capability and functionality, without all the snooping, in a replacement OS for their desktop and laptop??
Thanks Didgeridoohan,
ALEX
Take the PC offline. Use Android for interfacing with the internet. It's far less likely to be compromised or infected by malware.
Use Karma Firewall to see what's connecting and where to, block if needed. Fully functional on Pie and below, freeware that uses almost no battery.
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Step 1 - abandon or delete FB, Twitter, Instagram, WhatsApp etc accounts.
Extreme - Get burner phone with prepaid minutes paid with cash. Power down when not using. Don't use at home or familiar/same locations. Toss as needed, repeat
They use voice recognition algorithms so they can likely ID you by voice probably in real time.
NASA surveillance has been online for a while now... and is far more capable than they like you to know. It effectively has unlimited storage capacity for all voice calls, text, internet activity and more.
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Thank you for the empowerment Black Hawk.
Definitely understand why you are calling my attention to the social media apps ......what aren't they collecting about your communications with others?!
I as well understand: why you are steering me towards prepaid phone accounts, funded in cash only. I additionally understand why you are suggesting keeping my phone powered off, and using it only in unfrequented places. Lastly, getting rid of the device, and starting over with a fresh device periodically, understand as well. All powerful recommendations, if higher levels of privacy are valued. Thank you much!
NASA surveillance, and their capabilities .......effectly, databasing any and all forms of communication between human beings .......is scary stuff. I only wonder: who has access, for what purposes; and, does this access include private corporations .......and what might those corporations be using this database for?
I am continuing to review and think about your latest suggestions, and will comment later. How may I private message you, if possible, and you allow it?
Your input has been greatly appreciated, my friend.
ALEX
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Thank you for the empowerment Black Hawk.
Definitely understand why you are calling my attention to the social media apps ......what aren't they collecting about your communications with others?!
I as well understand: why you are steering me towards prepaid phone accounts, funded in cash only. I additionally understand why you are suggesting keeping my phone powered off, and using it only in unfrequented places. Lastly, getting rid of the device, and starting over with a fresh device periodically, understand as well. All powerful recommendations, if higher levels of privacy are valued. Thank you much!
NASA surveillance, and their capabilities .......effectly, databasing any and all forms of communication between human beings .......is scary stuff. I only wonder: who has access, for what purposes; and, does this access include private corporations .......and what might those corporations be using this database for?
I am continuing to review and think about your latest suggestions, and will comment later. How may I private message you, if possible, and you allow it?
Your input has been greatly appreciated, my friend.
ALEX
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I'm being somewhat sarcastic about the paid phone apps. Really if you are under their suspicion and a high value target... they can be quit adaptable with a lot of resources at their disposal.
I wasn't being sarcastic about FB etc, pure poison. Don't dime yourself out... social malware.
blackhawk said:
Step 1 - abandon or delete FB, Twitter, Instagram, WhatsApp etc accounts.
Extreme - Get burner phone with prepaid minutes paid with cash. Power down when not using. Don't use at home or familiar/same locations. Toss as needed, repeat
They use voice recognition algorithms so they can likely ID you by voice probably in real time.
NASA surveillance has been online for a while now... and is far more capable than they like you to know. It effectively has unlimited storage capacity for all voice calls, text, internet activity and more.
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The usage of voice recognition technology, by the telecommunication companies, and others, is a real scary thing; and, I believe: most of the public is not aware of this fact. This technology, and its wide spread usage, across our telecommunication networks, represents a direct assault on our freedom of speech, and right to privacy, as we attempt to communicate privately with our fellow citizens, in a supposedly, free society. The fact, the government, and corporations operating in the private sector, have access to, and are scrutinizing, communications between private citizens, who have not been convicted in a court of law as being involved in criminal or terroristic activity; or, even had been benefit of the judicial process, as they are unknowingly being spied upon......is.....
...diabolical ..........and certainly, ............anti-American.
Well again this is a technical forum.
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Take the PC offline. Use Android for interfacing with the internet. It's far less likely to be compromised or infected by malware.
Use Karma Firewall to see what's connecting and where to, block if needed. Fully functional on Pie and below, freeware that uses almost no battery.
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blackhawk said:
I'm being somewhat sarcastic about the paid phone apps. Really if you are under their suspicion and a high value target... they can be quit adaptable with a lot of resources at their disposal.
I wasn't being sarcastic about FB etc, pure poison. Don't dime yourself out... social malware.
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I understand, now, you were being a little "tongue and cheeck" with me; but, I think: your recommendations still apply, for anyone trying to understand: what it would take, not to be tracked easily. I as well understand: later, what you were alluding to, and your overall point -- about the magnitude of surveillance resources that could be brought to bare against you; if, you were quite important, to substantial figures.
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Take the PC offline. Use Android for interfacing with the internet. It's far less likely to be compromised or infected by malware.
Use Karma Firewall to see what's connecting and where to, block if needed. Fully functional on Pie and below, freeware that uses almost no battery.
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Thanks for the gold nugget of info on this protection mechanism. I will certainly be checking this out!
Happy Halloween Black Hawk.
ALEX
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I understand, now, you were being a little "tongue and cheeck" with me; but, I think: your recommendations still apply, for anyone trying to understand: what it would take, not to be tracked easily. I as well understand: later, what you were alluding to, and your overall point -- about the magnitude of surveillance resources that could be brought to bare against you; if, you were quite important, to substantial figures.
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Not exactly. My PC is always offline, but that's simply because it's mission doesn't require internet connection so it's a needless liability.
All else applies in that statement.
It's blackhawk...
Didgeridoohan said:
Welcome to XDA.
If you're concerned about privacy I would unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM without Google services. It won't be perfect but a little less data will be transferred. Maybe something like a PinePhone would be better for privacy, or better yet an old time "dumbphone"...
You should be able to find most of the info you need in the LG V40 section of the forums. Check it out...
And just a heads-up: keep the politics off the forum. To quote the forum rules:
Again, welcome and I hope you have a good experience here on XDA.
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With all due respect, we live in a pervasive, corrupt corporate and political technocracy that has weaponized our phones, and all technology, to surveil and track our every move, views, opinions, activities, locations. The Borg is exempt from this illegal invasion of privacy and operates in secrecy with impunity for their tyrannical crimes against humanity. Ignoring this tragic reality is why our privacy, rights, and freedoms are all being stripped away. Those who bury their head in the sand and refuse to wake up to this travesty and resist on all relative platforms. Are useful idiot slaves who are playing right into their hands and are assimilated by the Borg! Just keeping it real because this harsh reality must be spread far and wide since capitulation is assimilation and assimilation is extermination. Comply and you Die!
Anti-Trans-Humanist said:
With all due respect, we live in a pervasive, corrupt corporate and political technocracy that has weaponized our phones, and all technology, to surveil and track our every move, views, opinions, activities, locations. The Borg is exempt from this illegal invasion of privacy and operates in secrecy with impunity for their tyrannical crimes against humanity. Ignoring this tragic reality is why our privacy, rights, and freedoms are all being stripped away. Those who bury their head in the sand and refuse to wake up to this travesty and resist on all relative platforms. Are useful idiot slaves who are playing right into their hands and are assimilated by the Borg! Just keeping it real because this harsh reality must be spread far and wide since capitulation is assimilation and assimilation is eradication!
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Good thing that the Borg are fictitious then...
Still, my original statement stands: leave the politics out of any discussions/posts on XDA. It's perfectly possible to discuss privacy concerns without bringing up politics...
Didgeridoohan said:
Good thing that the Borg are fictitious then...
Still, my original statement stands: leave the politics out of any discussions/posts on XDA. It's perfectly possible to discuss privacy concerns without bringing up politics...
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Obviously the Borg taken from Star Trek is fictitious but it's a single word representation of a conglomeration of secret societies. That includes the Freemasons, Jesuits, Illuminati and other psychopathic death cults with an anti human, genocidal agenda.
Your name implies you reside or are from Australia which is being overtaken and decimated by them. In part because the good people of Australia have fallen right into their trap. Which includes spinning and twisting words to subvert the truth and distort reality. Such as inferring the use of this fictitious title to describe a conglomeration of very real, nefarious, evil, elements. Ridiculously suggests I'm some psychotic conspiracy theorist that blurs the lines between truth and fiction.
The distinction's very clear to me because I'm awake to reality unlike the masses that are like lemmings running straight off a cliff to their death. I'll leave it at that.