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Forgive me if a stupid question but the new rage going on is the new USB support for our NCs, what exactly can I do with that functionality now? Examples would be nice. Is it just simple stuff like keyboards, etc?
All of this is unconfirmed, but what I've seen mentioned includes webcams and game controllers in addition to keyboards/mice.
mass storage devices will work as well if you have an external power source
Another stupid question from my side:
How WILL this USB connectivity work? Meaning we connect any USB enabled device to the micro-USB port of the nook from which the charger connects?
That would be cool since that would enable USB keyboards to work with the nook..
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mass storage devices will work as well if you have an external power source
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And many USB thumb drives work without any external power at all. Not all of them, but an older 2GB of mine works perfectly (especially with the vold file modified so that mass storage devices auto mount)
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And many USB thumb drives work without any external power at all. Not all of them, but an older 2GB of mine works perfectly (especially with the vold file modified so that mass storage devices auto mount)
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Would you mind sharing your vold line? Does it work regardless of the sdx partition actually mounted? (In other word, is it wildcarded for any type of flash, or just for your particular drive)
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Would you mind sharing your vold line? Does it work regardless of the sdx partition actually mounted? (In other word, is it wildcarded for any type of flash, or just for your particular drive)
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This is all i used (the example line): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14548442&postcount=159
all of my micro usb cards work with a reader.
perhaps they need lesser power to run
So basically, I can plug up a webcam and video chat with a market app? Or am I being too wishful?
Still rocking the Incredible with the XDA Premium App.
flu13 said:
All of this is unconfirmed, but what I've seen mentioned includes webcams and game controllers in addition to keyboards/mice.
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Is there a Keyboard/Mouse that will work with the Nook that anyone is using today? Of course, I don't understand how a mouse would work because there is no pointer/cursor in Android is there?
I'd love to be able to have a mouse/keyboard and not have to lug my laptop around on business trips but just use the Nook instead. May be wishful thinking I suppose.
As soon as you connect a mouse, a pointer appears.
flu13 said:
As soon as you connect a mouse, a pointer appears.
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Cool, I'll have to monkey with this I suppose. Sounds promising.
flu13 said:
As soon as you connect a mouse, a pointer appears.
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Cool, thanks. I have a few micro USB cables and a couple of female to female adapters on the way so I can hook a USB mouse and keyboard up to the cables.
flu13 said:
As soon as you connect a mouse, a pointer appears.
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Did you need a powered USB hub for this, or does the nook power the mouse?
Requia said:
Did you need a powered USB hub for this, or does the nook power the mouse?
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Depends on the mouse. If the mouse can run on 100mA, it will work with no hub (personally tested with a Logitech wireless).
Just wondering if anyone knows whether they've gotten the usb headphones with mic to work. I've been following that usb thread in development pretty closely (although I can't post there; not enough general posts, so I guess I'll have to start spamming), and it appears as though they are close, but I haven't seen a post definitely stating that it works. Seems as though they were getting some noise through the mic, but the rate was off. Too fast or too slow or something. Maybe someone knows?
Which Female to Female adapter to get?
I found some Female to Female adapters on Amazon, but they had mixed reviews. If you are using one successfully , I would appreciate more information about where to get it.
-Mo
Moritzio said:
I found some Female to Female adapters on Amazon, but they had mixed reviews. If you are using one successfully , I would appreciate more information about where to get it.
-Mo
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Same here. I bought one from ebay for $1.98 but what they sent did not match the description or picture so I killed the charge with AmEx.
As for webcam support, not working as far as I have been able to test. I can get the nook to recognize the cam but the apps do not see it. Have tried yahoo msgr,tango, ooVoo,fring, ect...
As for uses, mouse,keyboard,sd card reader,direct connection to DSLR's for photo transfer, flash drives.
As for flash drives, I have about 20 here from various mfr and only 1 will worrk without a powered hub but using a powered hub, everything works.
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Does anyone know of any way you can use the webtop adapter on a laptop? I plug it in via HDMI and nothing happens. can you only use this on a tv/monitor?
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can you only use this on a tv/monitor?
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Yep.
Your laptop only has an HDMI out.
webtop adapter
what exacly is the webtop adapeter
how do you use it if you hook it up to a tv without a keyboard or mouse? is there any way to navigate through or do you need a keyboard and mouse? I saw a video with the atrix had a hack to hook it up and it turned the phone into a mouse and such....wondering if that happens at all or not
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how do you use it if you hook it up to a tv without a keyboard or mouse? is there any way to navigate through or do you need a keyboard and mouse? I saw a video with the atrix had a hack to hook it up and it turned the phone into a mouse and such....wondering if that happens at all or not
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at the vzw store the adapter has 2 more usb ports on it and the rep was saying you could use those ports to put the wireless adapters in to make a keyboard and mouse work. not sure if it works i just overheard the convo between him and a customer.
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Does anyone know of any way you can use the webtop adapter on a laptop? I plug it in via HDMI and nothing happens. can you only use this on a tv/monitor?
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I think a better question is this:
Where did you find a laptop with an HDMI INPUT?
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I think a better question is this:
Where did you find a laptop with an HDMI INPUT?
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He didn't. He plugged his phone's hdmi cable into his laptop's hdmi port. It's the same port on either end.
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how do you use it if you hook it up to a tv without a keyboard or mouse? is there any way to navigate through or do you need a keyboard and mouse? I saw a video with the atrix had a hack to hook it up and it turned the phone into a mouse and such....wondering if that happens at all or not
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If you plug it into the tv without the hack to enable webtop, without the webtop adapter, you get a "remote" screen on phone, which runs the media player. If the webtop adapter does what I think it will do, it will make the phone's screen work like the touchpad on your laptop, and give you a button to bring up the keyboard, which is what the Atrix does with the webtop hack. You can also tether a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to the phone.
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He didn't. He plugged his phone's hdmi cable into his laptop's hdmi port. It's the same port on either end.
If you plug it into the tv without the hack to enable webtop, without the webtop adapter, you get a "remote" screen on phone, which runs the media player. If the webtop adapter does what I think it will do, it will make the phone's screen work like the touchpad on your laptop, and give you a button to bring up the keyboard, which is what the Atrix does with the webtop hack. You can also tether a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to the phone.
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Thats what I was hoping to hear....I want to buy the adapter but I'm afraid someone will come out with the hack as soon as i do.
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Where did you find a laptop with an HDMI INPUT?
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I have a Lenovo with an HDMI port.
Any finding anything interesting about the adapter. VZW rep gave me one at a discount for a problem with my bill.
With the ammount of money ans headaches you would spend to do be able to do that, you're probably better off just trying to find the docking station for the bionic and selling your laptop.
FYI, the Droid BIONIC Support Bluetooth Keyboard & Mouse.
I Use the same on I use for my Tablet.
but here's a keyboard made by moto. A co-worker has it, and he loves it he says
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...ess-Accessories/Atrix-Wireless-Keyboard-US-EN
Pretty sure there is software out there than does it... But its only the size of the phone screen... Look in google code
Has anyone cracked open a Webtop adapter yet to actually see what is inside?
Considering there is that cardock hack which was pretty much just drilling a hole and adding a micro-HDMI cable, the only thing triggering Webtop vs. mirroring mode might be a magnet.
I would love to find that out to be true. A four dollar cable from ebay is a lot better than the 30$? they charge for the adapter....
Just wondering, since some of the newer tablets let you hook up mini usb devices to it and so. Was wondering if there had been any adapters yet or so for us streak 7 users? Would be cool to get a wired controller hooked up and so.
You would need an OTG cable to do that, as dell doesnt make any you will have to make your own or use the HDMI dock.
Well I have the HDMI Dock, so I could use the dock then insert the usb device to that? Was thinking about getting that Logitech F710 with that usb dongle, heard it had support for android. What else would I need? Or hows that work fully.
As for the non dock part, has anyone made a cable yet to work?
if your device had a usb-a connector you have no choice then but to make a cable.
the sixaxis/ds3 uses a mini usb connector and might work though usb,
I know it and the wiimote will work over bt, with the wiimote being the easier to pair one.
Well I have the wiimote working fine, Issue there is.. Yea.. Battery drain on that remote. So figured maybe getting a adapter. I guess I need a USB to Mini micro usb? (The new style mini usb thing.. man I miss the old big RAZR size ones) How many of you have used a HID device or so on android or the streak 7?
you'd need to splice together the dock connector to preferably a USB-A female port, it'd be the most useful as you'd have a cable that could accept anything, but it'd mean you'd always need a minimum of 2 cables.
You'd also have to dissemble to dock connector itself i believe as the OTG pins are different from what's wired in the normal sync/charge cables, you cant simply cut the cable and rewire it, you'd prob have to cut the dock connector open and resolder
If you made a dock to micro usb connector it'd only accept devices that have a micro usb port on it.
Keep in mind usb mode means that the controller would be drawing power from the device itself, while controllers dont draw that much, it's still something to point out
Wouldnt this be all I need?
http://www.amazon.com/USB-Female-Mini-Male-Adapter/dp/B0016RNX2I/ref=pd_sbs_e_4
Would take the normal size usb dongle or cord, fits into the USB slot of the dock itself.
I havnt actually tried it but it sounds like that should work, i know that port is designed for otg connections so i'd assume it'd take care of the hard work.
When on 2.2.2 Did I need a special program for this to work? I know 3.x had native support. Just wondering. =) (Or can any game/emulator with key remapping auto detect)
if it's anything like the hoops needed for the s5 on 2.2.x yes, unless dell included their own code stuff to make it work, then i'm not sure.
I've never attached a controller to anything, wired or not so I can only say that much
Wonder what the app would be called or so, anyone know? I mean I ordered the part, should be here in a few days, then I can report any tests I have with a Rumblepad 2.
Ok tested it out, So far nada. Dont know if its even supposed to work.
Has anyone here hooked a wired controller up to their android? Running Honeycomb now too.
I know people talk about the F710, which I wonder if that works cause its battery powered?
So what's the verdict guys? Can a controller or other USB device be connected to the mini USB port on the docking station and work? If not, will it work if you plug in a mini USB OTG cable (like this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-USB-Re...757?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6edf5335) into the docking station and then plug the controller into the OTG cable?
So far my verdict is nada.. dont think its supplying power to the usb ports. Now its been said that adapter based ones may work, something where controller is powered by batteries. Tho again. No one ever gives a real confirm.
My next area to branch out is http://www.onlive.com/controller 50$ but you can use a adapter for the pc. However it also works with bluetooth, something that the tablet DOES support and no adapter needed. Since I have the onlive app, least it will work 100% for THAT. Once my tax money comes in, Ill order the controller and see if it can work on emulators and so too. least then we will have 1 solid answer that has some good use. (Since honestly, onlive on the tablet really isnt bad at all!)
Why not bluetooth your ps3 controller though the sixaxis app on the market thats what I've done works great
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I have used my Wii remote that way
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To answer both. If I am not mistaken. PS3 controllers have to be "paired". Which means when you wanna play PS3 or Tablet.. got to re-pair them all the time, correct?
Wii-Motes I know you dont have to re-pair them. However.. one thing I hate... that to use the classic controller.. you need to have the Wiimote laying around somewhere.. then the cable for classic. Seems bulky for normal use.
Both controllers all are battery too. Would be nice for wired solutions. If I do anything wireless, I may as well get that Onlive controller with BT support.
If you have a sixaxis/DS3 dedicated to non-ps3 use: you only have to re-pair it every time you want to use it on a different device.
The sixaxis/ds3 do work in usb mode, at least on pcs. I dont recall if there's a solution to use it in usb mode on android (though i'd imagine it should, as usb mode is trivial to enable)
If you only have a single device to use it with, you only ever need to pair it once and then you're done.
Well, I finally went and tried hooking up a usb hub to my S7, and my results were absolute failures.
I bought an OTG <-> dell 30 pin a while back and a standard OTG <-> dock cable.
I dont have a baseline as I dont know offhand which kernels are specifically tested to work.
It seems to enable the hub (by enable I mean it powers up on detection of a host, it's wall powered)
on my S5 with ICS/Phoenix kernal (which is known to support usb hosting), but nada on my S7 with ICS B4/mod and stock 514.
Can anyone explicitly confirm that the b4 and stock kernals work with host?
I'm pretty sure nothing is happening on either of those, and as it works fine on my S7 it's definitely not bad cables/hardware.
Edit: at least the S5 is even capable of powering the hub itself, and with a dock it can charge at the same time. If it wernt for the terrible HDMI out on it, it would be a full on android pc with the dock.
The S7 on the other hand: I still cant get anything, remotely powered or self powered: it gives no response
I can tell you, yes, ICS kernel does have otg drivers but may not provide power to those devices.
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So I'm currently running Carbon ROM B6 on my Nook HD+. I was hoping to connect a keyboard via USB to the Nook HD+. In order to do that, I figure I'd have to get a female to female USB adapter, and plug in the keyboard on one side, and the Nook in the other. Before I buy a female to female USB adapter, I figured I'd ask if this would even work. To take it one step further, could this work with any USB device at all, such as a mouse, flash drive, PC Xbox controller, etc?
It works on CM10. I am not sure if Carbon has that feature but USB adapter is only a couple of dollars.
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And the answer is?
RySean said:
So I'm currently running Carbon ROM B6 on my Nook HD+. I was hoping to connect a keyboard via USB to the Nook HD+. In order to do that, I figure I'd have to get a female to female USB adapter, and plug in the keyboard on one side, and the Nook in the other. Before I buy a female to female USB adapter, I figured I'd ask if this would even work. To take it one step further, could this work with any USB device at all, such as a mouse, flash drive, PC Xbox controller, etc?
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SOOoo, did this work? Was a long time ago, was wondering if anything came of the attempt. MANY would like to know. Thanks!
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SOOoo, did this work? Was a long time ago, was wondering if anything came of the attempt. MANY would like to know. Thanks!
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Yup, worked fine. I tested a keyboard and a mouse and both worked perfectly. I also tested an external HDD (Seagate Backup Plus) and was able to get that working with USB host mode turned on.
RySean said:
Yup, worked fine. I tested a keyboard and a mouse and both worked perfectly. I also tested an external HDD (Seagate Backup Plus) and was able to get that working with USB host mode turned on.
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Did you manage to get the 360 controller to work?
Thanks
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Did you manage to get the 360 controller to work?
Thanks
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For the Xbox Controllers you should be able to use the normal xpad kernel module, I will test that when my USB genderchanger arrives
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For the Xbox Controllers you should be able to use the normal xpad kernel module, I will test that when my USB genderchanger arrives
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okay let me know how it works! very interested in doing that =)
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okay let me know how it works! very interested in doing that =)
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as far as I know, those commands like under debian should do it:
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su
modprobe xpad
I will test it as soon as possible
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as far as I know, those commands like under debian should do it:
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su
modprobe xpad
I will test it as soon as possible
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okay thanks =)
ive purchased a female to female usb adapter, would i not need a powered hub to get the controller working?
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okay thanks =)
ive purchased a female to female usb adapter, would i not need a powered hub to get the controller working?
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I don't know, that depends on the electrical current it needs and reports to the host controller.
If a device is over that curent, the host controller will turn it off.
So if I buy a female-female adapter and plug in a usb stick I should to be to access the content i.e Movies?
Yes, but you need this apk installed on official cm builds.
http://nook.rootshell.ru/hd/USBHostSwitcher.apk
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Yes, but you need this apk installed on official cm builds.
http://nook.rootshell.ru/hd/USBHostSwitcher.apk
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Hi
I've downloaded this and tried it but my Nook HD+ doesn't seem to do anything different after I have enabled the program and plugged in a usb stick. I'm running a nightly build of CM11 if that makes any difference.
Then your USB stick needs a too high current, try it with an actively powered USB hub.
Check out http://www.zen24223.zen.co.uk/TPUSBUMount6.apk
The instructions are here http://rootzwiki.com/topic/33033-otg-usb-insufficient-available-bus-toolthingy/
plug in your usb device and "press fix insufficient power req" button. works like a charm for my ps3 controller, no usb hub in between the controller and nook required.
Hello, I didn't see anyone post anything on this yet from either device (HD, HD+) but I haven't been able to connect a controller when on the 7/8 build of CM 10.1 or Carbon 7/7. I'm not sure if is an isolated problem or if there is known issues with bluetooth. I was able to get it working on Stock + root but much prefer Carbon or CM (Great Roms!!). If anyone has found a workaround I would really appreciate any advice or suggestions! :fingers-crossed:
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Hello, I didn't see anyone post anything on this yet from either device (HD, HD+) but I haven't been able to connect a controller when on the 7/8 build of CM 10.1 or Carbon 7/7. I'm not sure if is an isolated problem or if there is known issues with bluetooth. I was able to get it working on Stock + root but much prefer Carbon or CM (Great Roms!!). If anyone has found a workaround I would really appreciate any advice or suggestions! :fingers-crossed:
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Several of us have tried sixaxis to no avail. We can only hop this will get fixed at some point. I personally would love to see BT and the PS3 controller work rather than using USB. Time will tell.
darknetone said:
Several of us have tried sixaxis to no avail. We can only hop this will get fixed at some point. I personally would love to see BT and the PS3 controller work rather than using USB. Time will tell.
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Thanks for the reply. How did you get USB to work with the proprietary cable connection of the B&N devices?
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Thanks for the reply. How did you get USB to work with the proprietary cable connection of the B&N devices?
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Been a few days and wondering if anyone found a workaround or fix for this.
you get a small usb hub, and a female to female gender changer.
hookup nook usb cable to gender changer, plug that into usb hub pc connector end, plug ps3 controller
into it via usb cable. then change it to force usb host or vice versa. It's explained in the other Nook forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358535
I hate it, but it does work.
hoping for a blue-tooth working fix as well...
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you get a small usb hub, and a female to female gender changer.
hookup nook usb cable to gender changer, plug that into usb hub pc connector end, plug ps3 controller
into it via usb cable. then change it to force usb host or vice versa. It's explained in the other Nook forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358535
I hate it, but it does work.
hoping for a blue-tooth working fix as well...
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Still a lil confused but I'll check out that link. thank you very much
Recognizing my controllers
I'm using a ps2 controller with a generic USB adaptor. I set up CM 10.1 (awesome awesome awesome) and have a gender changer but no USB hub. When I do forced USB host, the controller lights up when I press the Analog button on the controller so I don't think I need a USB hub. How do I get the Nook to recognize it as an input method? I have done lots of research and tried the USB/BT joy center app and still my controller is not recognized. I also got a generic SNES controller and same issue. Is this because they are generic and there are no drivers for Android to recognize these devices, or do I just need a USB hub? How can I get an emulator to recognize these? Thanks for taking a look.
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I'm using a ps2 controller with a generic USB adaptor. I set up CM 10.1 (awesome awesome awesome) and have a gender changer but no USB hub. When I do forced USB host, the controller lights up when I press the Analog button on the controller so I don't think I need a USB hub. How do I get the Nook to recognize it as an input method? I have done lots of research and tried the USB/BT joy center app and still my controller is not recognized. I also got a generic SNES controller and same issue. Is this because they are generic and there are no drivers for Android to recognize these devices, or do I just need a USB hub? How can I get an emulator to recognize these? Thanks for taking a look.
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Wow yeah I have no clue. It would be much easier to just have sixaxis working. Otherwise I got to buy a bunch of stuff to get it working and carrying a bunch of wires around kinda ruins the portability factor of having a tablet in the first place lol
Was wondering is there any update on this issue as i would like to try out one of these roms but this is putting me of doing so
any updates? im yet to get mine going =/
you need to lean on the developers of sixaxis app.
It appears to be the only one not working.
I got tired of waiting and just got a cheap 20 dollar blue-tooth controller from gamestop (red samurai controller)
works great.
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you need to lean on the developers of sixaxis app.
It appears to be the only one not working.
I got tired of waiting and just got a cheap 20 dollar blue-tooth controller from gamestop (red samurai controller)
works great.
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i would love to purchase the gamestop 10 or 20 dollar gamestop controller, that would be great!
but i live in the UK and its basically getting chinese cr*p or a expensive moga =/
i cant find the gamestop bluetooth controllers anywhere but gamestop!! =<