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(Newbie) - A couple of questions before flashing my HD

I posted this deep in another thread (a sticky), but I think it fits better as a new topic because it is not specific to that other thread. I'll make a note in the other thread to avoid duplicates.
Okay....
I'm absolutely new to the world of ROMs and SPL, HSPL, SSPL and USPL - but I've been doing my homework today and I've read all of the wiki links more than once.
Before diving into it and making some dumb newbie mistake, I wanted to run a couple of things by you guys.
I have the German o2 ROM 1.14.207.2 (24011) GER.
I don't want the o2 branding, but I still want it in German.
So, I want to flash RUU_BlackStone_HTC_GER_1.14.407.3_Radio_52.49a.25. 26_1.09.25.14_Ship.exe
My understanding is that since these are both stock ROMs (at least I believe they both are, right?), my stock SPL should accept the new ROM without any problems. In other words, I don't need anything like USPL. Am I correct? Or do I actually need USPL because the new ROM is not from my current vendor which is o2?
Based on what I learned reading all the info, this is what I plan to do:
Turn off my phone, remove SIM and MicroSD
Enter boot mode (tricolor screen)
connect phone via usb to WMDC (Vista 32-bit). The settings are set to ALLOW usb connections
Disable my antivirus program
Disable all power saving modes, screensavers etc.
Run the RUU Ship.exe mentioned above as administrator
Follow instructions until device reboots
So now my warranty should still be fine. If I have to send the device in for repair, to I need to put the o2 ROM back on it?
Thanks for your help (and patience) with a newbie that scared to turn his HD into a brick. I think I'll wear diapers while I'm flashing - just in case.
I'll wait for some responses before I tackle the 7 steps above.

Chris Cross said:
My understanding is that since these are both stock ROMs (at least I believe they both are, right?), my stock SPL should accept the new ROM without any problems.
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No, thats not true at all. For instance you can't flash a WWE Rom over a German Rom, although they are both stock roms. There is a country specific code (CID). The stock SPL is checking this, so its impossible to flash roms coming from another country.
I'm not sure if the stock SPL also checks the vendor/operator, but I guess it does.
Chris Cross said:
In other words, I don't need anything like USPL.
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You should just try it. The SPL will tell you whether it accepts the rom or not.
Chris Cross said:
Based on what I learned reading all the info, this is what I plan to do:
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First of all you should consider which SPL you want to use. If you really just want to flash this new rom, USPL is good for you, if you are going to change your rom more frequently then HSPL is the way to go.
Instructions on how to use this SPLs are given in the appreciate threads (with many comments of other users), so you should look them up (again).
Chris Cross said:
So now my warranty should still be fine.
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You warrany is fine, if the operator/vendor gets the device with the rom he shipped it to you (or any official upgrade provided by this operator/vendor). If you flash the official htc german rom, you might loose your warranty.
Chris Cross said:
If I have to send the device in for repair, to I need to put the o2 ROM back on it?
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Yes, normally you do.
Chris Cross said:
Thanks for your help (and patience) with a newbie that scared to turn his HD into a brick.
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If you are doing all as mentioned in the appreciate instructions nothing extraordinary should happen. I have flashed my HD for over 15 times in the last few days.
Chris Cross said:
I think I'll wear diapers while I'm flashing - just in case.
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Normally that shouldn't change anything .

Chris Cross said:
[*]connect phone via usb to WMDC (Vista 32-bit). The settings are set to ALLOW usb connections
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Read the USPL thread carefully - you have to disable allow usb connections. In vista you will probably find that you will have to downgrade the USB drivers - that is dealt with in Post 69 of the USPL thread - see also post 1 of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291723

apd said:
Read the USPL thread carefully - you have to disable allow usb connections. In vista you will probably find that you will have to downgrade the USB drivers - that is dealt with in Post 69 of the USPL thread - see also post 1 of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291723
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yes, I had read that about disabling usb connections. I just thought that if I did not need USPL then I could leave usb connections enabled and try the other german ship.exe rom. Anyway, I think might need to alter the SPL anyway.
THANK YOU ALL for your responses. They were very helpful and it is time for me to get working on it when I get home.
I will post back my results.

Well, everything worked out fine.
I ended having to use USPL because my SPL did not accept the new stock ROM (same language, but different vendor: o2 vs. non-branded).
I did have to downgrade my vista drivers for it to work. I followed all the wiki instructions and had no problems.
Thanks again for the help.

Sercurity Unlocker
Will the blackstone have to be security unlocked to flash cooked ROMs or will it be done in the HSPL?

primbcadman said:
Will the blackstone have to be security unlocked to flash cooked ROMs or will it be done in the HSPL?
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Security unlock matters for radio flashing only.

Security unlocker.
stepw said:
Security unlock matters for radio flashing only.
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thanks for reply. pity tho after bought unlocked thc touch hd will have to pay for that again just to get security unlocker, like I did for touch pro.

Problem installing HTC HD7 HSPL / RSPL

Hello to all ..
My problem is that here ..
In a few words I wanted to install in my HTC 7392 with node HD7 SPL Bootloader 4.5 and unlocked the rom modified mango ..
but before you do anything, I had to install HSPL / RSPL in my HTC HD7 ..
I downloaded the "DFT_XSPL_WP7FG1"
I followed a guide ..
MAH reached the point of selecting the SPL, the list of the program reached only up to 3.4 ..
so my HD7 being with SPL 4.5 you could not do so I tried to install the 3.4 "I did na bull****" ..
so going forward I get an error in the program where it was impossible to go on ..
So I unplugged the HD7 and I tried to do it again ..
MAH OSPL when I open "volume down and power button" not come out as written, but all I get only one written with the words "SS-BC PD29100 (4k) ..
What has happened? knows someone explain why?
I already tried to do the backup but nothing = (..

What does the spl screen say when your in bootloader?
Sounds like you have the 4.xx version.. If that's the case you need to flash an official nodo rom first. The hspl doesn't support spl's 4.xx yet.
Sent from my HD7 T9292 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

crazysax1 said:
MAH OSPL when I open "volume down and power button" not come out as written, but all I get only one written with the words "SS-BC PD29100 (4k) ..
What has happened? knows someone explain why?
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if your Bootloader does indeed only have one thing written on it...
then you have half-bricked your device.
according to cotulla, here, it is impossible to recover such devices.
though...
according to dj.95, here, you can recover your device using the goldcard method.
good luck.
sh4d0w86.

But you have to worry about?
What are the consequences?
Is serious?

crazysax1 said:
Hello to all ..
My problem is that here ..
so my HD7 being with SPL 4.5 you could not do so I tried to install the 3.4 "I did na bull****" ..
(..
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you didnt read the instructions that are in giant bold letters all over those threads...you had spl 4.5 and tried to install the hspl. youve unfortunately half bricked your phone and currently it looks like it may NOT be fixable at all. try the gold card method listed above, i havent done it or read the thread but briefly but it looks like it may be a work around. unfortunately tho youre phone is BBQ'd.

sh4d0w86 said:
if your Bootloader does indeed only have one thing written on it...
then you have half-bricked your device.
according to cotulla, here, it is impossible to recover such devices.
though...
according to dj.95, here, you can recover your device using the goldcard method.
good luck.
sh4d0w86.
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i don't thing with the goldcard method we recover our device! my device work ok, but don't go to boot usb host mode because bootloader is half bricked! then no gold card works...
(or maybe it's me, that does not access the USB host mode?) ( camera + vol- + power?)

alessio81pa said:
i don't thing with the goldcard method we recover our device! my device work ok, but don't go to boot usb host mode because bootloader is half bricked! then no gold card works...
(or maybe it's me, that does not access the USB host mode?) ( camera + vol- + power?)
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i honestly have no idea how goldcard method works.
haven't had any experience with it.
you may message the individual who's post i linked to and ask them.
sorry i can't be of more help.
sh4d0w86.

Half bricked possibilities
Hi friends. Do you really know anybody, if goldcard, Zune HTC update, JTAG or something another can solve hb problem? I am also in the "warnings late reading ignorants" club from last weak. But, I got a reply from a single "Half Bricked repairing" service near of Central Europe (GSM-TechNix.de): "Dear Sir, HTC 7 Pro is no Supported by JTAG! Sorry we can not help for this Phone." I have a little idea - to replace only internal information about bootloader version (I have no info on tricolore, but 3.2.2250.0 in Settings/about), connect to Zune and replace HTC update, if it is depend by this number. Is it possible? I have unlocked phone with pre-nodo (older backup has deleted by Zune), then HTC debug application or some homebrew features for values writing can work.
(From another forums:
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"Just updated my half bricked phone(bootloader problem) via Zune with HTC update for Windows Phone and the bootloader hasn't been fixed, so our only chance is with XTC Clip or DFT to come with a solution
Actually I got the same problem using an HTC Trophy A1 Version."
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"For now your/our phone(s) are half-bricked. But as soon as a new update is available - including a new Radio Version everything will work fine again. Had the same problem when debranding my phone. After updating to 7932 via Zune everything was fine again - until I applied the leaked Mango Update.
So again - be patient "
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"If your device is halfbricked you can use the goldcard method to recover your phone. If it's full bricked you need to make a jTag."
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"Goldcard cannot repair halbricked WP7 phone."
________
). Thanks for replies, sorry for my english. M.

[Q] Bad Zune OTA Update- Bricked.

Both a Q and a warning, as this was a new update.
I've had Mango for about 2 / 3 weeks (delivered through Zune)- yesterday received a notification of an update by HTC (There is chatter that this is the Wifi hotspot update?), which Zune failed to restart my HD7, giving me a bricked device.
Right now the device is powering on, giving one vibration to say hello, and then proceeding to give me 7 vibrations. I can reach both the bootloader and the recovery menu, but neither have been of any help.
This is what my bootloader screen looks like:
Code:
PD29100 SS-BC (4k)
SPL-5.0.2250.1(121000) MNG
MicroP(LED) 0x07
Touch S1(v2.B#1625)
SD SANDISK 15193MB
Partition Info v211v413
CRC is
Code:
BL CRC-0x7E63640E
OS(SI) CRC-0xB7077908
My warning is that I haven't done any ROMing on this device (it's unlocked and unbranded) so far, this was pure OTA- so if anyone gets this update in the next day or so, just be warned.
My concern is these flashing tools don't appear to support SPL v5. Does anyone have any ideas on how to get this show on the road? Downgrade the ROM and go from there?

have you tried recovering with Zune back-up?
have you tried flashing a stock Shipped ROM?

sh4d0w86 said:
have you tried recovering with Zune back-up?
have you tried flashing a stock Shipped ROM?
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Cheers for the reply.
Zune backup recquires to be able to go into the mode that Windows Phone Support tools needs, my phone gives the 7 vibrations before then.
Can I flash a stock shipped ROM without using HSPL / RSPL?

wint3rmute said:
Cheers for the reply.
Zune backup recquires to be able to go into the mode that Windows Phone Support tools needs, my phone gives the 7 vibrations before then.
Can I flash a stock shipped ROM without using HSPL / RSPL?
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yes, you can flash a stock Shipped ROM specific to your phone without XSPL.
check my signature for a link to all Shipped ROMs for the HTC Schubert.

On trying to put on the SEA ROM it seems to connect OK, comes up with the progress bar to 0% on the device, and then errors out to this:
http ://img13.imageshack. us/img13/2425/flashwrite .jpg
Any ideas?

wint3rmute said:
On trying to put on the SEA ROM it seems to connect OK, comes up with the progress bar to 0% on the device, and then errors out to this:
http ://img13.imageshack. us/img13/2425/flashwrite .jpg
Any ideas?
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error 226? unsure of what exactly that is.
had you tried reflashing?

No, this is the first time I've tried anything other than the OTA updates provided by Zune
Should I put the call through to HTC, or is there a way of taking back my SPL version so I can get a ROM on here? I've got SPL 5, which I can't find anywhere on XDA :S

Holy hell...was just about to get this update yesterday and just like that, decided against it...
Thanx a ton man...its been 2/3 weeks for me too with the Mango update.
Also, have U tried contacting the WP7 support on Twitter, which from my personal experience is quite hopeless and abject. But its also your best bet right now...

I've put the call out on twitter, I'll let you know how it goes.

wint3rmute said:
I've put the call out on twitter, I'll let you know how it goes.
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In my honest opinion they are quite hopeless. They will answer as if they are obliged to you and they owe you something. Anyways, its a personal experience.

Any luck? Did u hear anything from the (abject) Twitter support team ?
BTW, my update went fine. Finger crossing does help

No reply on anyone from twitter. HTC email support sent me through hard reset instructions, which I've already tried. Should be on the phone with them tomorrow with regards to the issue, will update this thread if there is a way of fixing this.
Had two mates at work whose updates went through fine as well :| Probably worth noting my phone and PC (Zune) region is set to US whilst my ROM is most certainly the SEA one. Maybe something's messed up there.

would out what Error 226 is...
it is a 'file write' error, suggesting the image (.nbh) is bad.
i suggest a redownload.
also, that ROM is now publicly available.
perhaps try flashing that?
link in my signature, as usual.

Thanks for your reply, getting an error similar to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263315
Except that makes sense, as my device is actually an SEA one, not a European one. Any idea when the shipped ROM for SEA will be available?

wint3rmute said:
Thanks for your reply, getting an error similar to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263315
Except that makes sense, as my device is actually an SEA one, not a European one. Any idea when the shipped ROM for SEA will be available?
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i do not know when or if it will, sorry.
hopefully, DFT releases a new version of XSPL soon.

sh4d0w86 said:
i do not know when or if it will, sorry.
hopefully, DFT releases a new version of XSPL soon.
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Okay. Do you have any insight into how these ROMs are released? Is it a matter of capturing it off another device that has the update?
I might be able to help in this regard, have a few mates with HD7 phones (Mine is personal but it's also the standard company-issue phone)

wint3rmute said:
Okay. Do you have any insight into how these ROMs are released? Is it a matter of capturing it off another device that has the update?
I might be able to help in this regard, have a few mates with HD7 phones (Mine is personal but it's also the standard company-issue phone)
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i don't, no. i know you can dump a ROM from a device with JTag.
but i don't know how to do that because it dumps as a 'bunch of mess.'

question

can i take the built in sd card out of my hd put it in my sd card reader and put nodo or any win7 os onit and then put t in my phone and boot up just wondering isit possible

messdup said:
can i take the built in sd card out of my hd7 put it in my sd card reader and put nodo or any win7 os onit and then put t in my phone and boot up just wondering isit possible
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no, this wouldn't work. not even sure why one would even want to do this...

sh4d0w86 said:
no, this wouldn't work. not even sure why one would even want to do this...i unlpugged my hd7 during restoring through zune due to lost contacts and it was easier to restore than type them all back in anyway i unplugged it and now it wont boot past htc splash screen
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looks like you have to start all over again.
put phone into bootloader...check which verision you have ... then reinstall custom rom
cheers
happy new year and have a gr8 day

jhonny said:
looks like you have to start all over again.
put phone into bootloader...check which verision you have ... then reinstall custom rom
cheers
happy new year and have a gr8 day
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happy new year to u dude but i got spl 5 so the whole problem with that makes things harder any ideas

there is a couple of ways mentioned here.
put phone into bootloader and install stock standard nodo rom. that will downgrade your hspl. there is a thread ....how to downgrade hspl with more detail.
just follow the instructions. once u have downgraded then you can install cotulla hspl and after that the custom rom
cheers

messdup said:
sh4d0w86 said:
i unlpugged my hd7 during restoring through zune due to lost contacts and it was easier to restore than type them all back in anyway
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add your contacts to your Windows Live account, will sync your contacts to your device automatically.
messdup said:
happy new year to u dude but i got spl 5 so the whole problem with that makes things harder any ideas
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if you have a Europe device, see here.
if you have a Zune back-up of NoDo, see here.
else try here.
if successfully downgraded Bootloader 5.xx, see here to XSPL.
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sh4d0w86 said:
messdup said:
add your contacts to your Windows Live account, will sync your contacts to your device automatically.
if you have a Europe device, see here.
if you have a Zune back-up of NoDo, see here.
else try here.
if successfully downgraded Bootloader 5.xx, see here to XSPL.
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thanks for the help guys but how do i change spl 5 when i cant get past htc logo and bootloader screen doesnt give me serial/usb so how will i install custom roms
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messdup said:
thanks for the help guys but how do i change spl 5 when i cant get past htc logo and bootloader screen doesnt give me serial/usb so how will i install custom roms
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jtag would be your guaranteed solution to your problem. here. riffbox is a popular choice.

[Q] Help regarding flashing hd7

Im a newbie in the world of Windows phone...
Can anyone help in giving a tutorial regarding how to flash my HTC HD7 with custome ROM's..
What are the requirements required..And the specifications..
Plz help me...

First you have to downgrade your spl to at 3.xxx or below. Then flash rspl or hspl to your device, then you can flash a custom rom! Just follow shadows tutorial here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295068
If you enter into bootloader and post your information back from the screen, can help walk you through it! To enter bootloader, phone off, hold down the volume button and power the phone back on while continuing to hold down the volume down button, this will bring you into bootloader mode a tri colored sreen.
If you found this helpful please click the thank you button!

xdrc45 said:
First you have to downgrade your spl to at 3.xxx or below. Then flash rspl or hspl to your device, then you can flash a custom rom! Just follow shadows tutorial here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295068
If you enter into bootloader and post your information back from the screen, can help walk you through it! To enter bootloader, phone off, hold down the volume button and power the phone back on while continuing to hold down the volume down button, this will bring you into bootloader mode a tri colored sreen.
If you found this helpful please click the thank you button!
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PD29100 SS-BC(4K)
SPL-5.11.2250.0
MICROP(LED) 0*07
TOUCH S1(v1.8,#1624)
SD SANDISK 7580MB
Partition info-v211v413
Can u give me the details...
+1 for ur help...

Ok with spl 5.xxx you have to use the goldcard method. Unless you have a backup through Zune... Meaning, did you upgrade the hd7 through Zune from pre mango to mago version?
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xdrc45 said:
Ok with spl 5.xxx you have to use the goldcard method. Unless you have a backup through Zune... Meaning, did you upgrade the hd7 through Zune from pre mango to mago version?
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I had updated today...its now windows 7.5

What is goldcard u mentioned...is this a different method other than u mentioned before...
And one more thing do u get balance notification after call or txt msg..,because im not able to get it...

Goldcard is one of the only methods of downgrading your spl from 5.xxx without having a backup. Goldcard, you need to make a Y cable out of USB cables and have a sd card reader to complete the process!
Not sure what you mean by balance notification?
Oh do you mean like phone credit balance? Are you on a pay as you go plan? Im on contract with month to month billing and get notification when my bill is due and can view my usage through my carrier account!
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xdrc45 said:
Not sure what you mean by balance notification?
Oh do you mean like phone credit balance? Are you on a pay as you go plan? Im on contract with month to month billing and get notification when my bill is due and can view my usage through my carrier account!
If you found this helpful please click the thank you button!
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Mine is prepaid, so after each call or message a notification will occur, like how notification occur on delivery of message...But before it was displaying now it has stopped, i think after the update...Are u able o get it...

roshand1 said:
Mine is prepaid, so after each call or message a notification will occur, like how notification occur on delivery of message...But before it was displaying now it has stopped, i think after the update...Are u able o get it...
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No I don't get notifications... I'm pretty sure it has to do with the update and I don't think there is a way to turn it back on either!
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I had updated today...its now windows 7.5
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That's good... We can do the spl downgrade without the Goldcard method then. So when your ready just let me know, I'll walk you through the process and we will have you running a custom rom in no time!

xdrc45 said:
No I don't get notifications... I'm pretty sure it has to do with the update and I don't think there is a way to turn it back on either!
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That's good... We can do the spl downgrade without the Goldcard method then. So when your ready just let me know, I'll walk you through the process and we will have you running a custom rom in no time!
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But after windows update to 7.5, my spl is 5.XXX, n for 5.XX goldcard method is required right...

This bootoader details,
PD29100 SS-BC(4K)
SPL-5.11.2250.0
MICROP(LED) 0*07
TOUCH S1(v1.8,#1624)
SD SANDISK 7580MB
Partition info-v211v413
what i sent was after my full update to 7.5...
And you quoted as i requires gold card method...Now how you ae saying it does not require goldcard.... Cann you explain in brief please...

Typically with a spl of 5.xxx or higher you would have to use the Goldcard method. But if you have a pre mango backup you can restore your phone through Zune, connect device to Zune - phone - settings - restore. It will restore your device to before the update, then re update the phone again through Zune like your upgrading to mango again. But this time once the Mango update happens (the phone will reboots twice after the update is applied, once for changing the spl and once for loading Mango) The spl is changed to 4.xxx that's when you stop the update and unplug the phone, you have to do this before the last update is applied which is the 7740/HTC Firmware Update, if you apply that too, it will change your spl to 5.xxx again, so you have to stop after the Mango update and then you can follow shadows tutorial for spl 4.xxx downgrade. Plus it will show you in the update box on the computer what update step it is on, so it's really easy to do! This is the same process that I used to downgrade my spl from 5.xxx to 4.xxx, then I finished using shadows tutorial to do the rest! The whole process took about and hour to fully complete and to have Deepshining rom installed on my device!

Why im not able to jail break my phone..When i run jail breaker, it say's phone is not connect through USB or Zune is not open..Though phone is cnnected through USB and Zune is open..
Should the phone be unlocked for it...Or it will work without unlock...

roshand1 said:
Why im not able to jail break my phone..When i run jail breaker, it say's phone is not connect through USB or Zune is not open..Though phone is cnnected through USB and Zune is open..
Should the phone be unlocked for it...Or it will work without unlock...
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Are you following the directions and steps that I told you or are you trying to do it with a different method? If so what step are you on?

xdrc45 said:
Typically with a spl of 5.xxx or higher you would have to use the Goldcard method. But if you have a pre mango backup you can restore your phone through Zune, connect device to Zune - phone - settings - restore. It will restore your device to before the update, then re update the phone again through Zune like your upgrading to mango again. But this time once the Mango update happens (the phone will reboots twice after the update is applied, once for changing the spl and once for loading Mango) The spl is changed to 4.xxx that's when you stop the update and unplug the phone, you have to do this before the last update is applied which is the 7740/HTC Firmware Update, if you apply that too, it will change your spl to 5.xxx again, so you have to stop after the Mango update and then you can follow shadows tutorial for spl 4.xxx downgrade. Plus it will show you in the update box on the computer what update step it is on, so it's really easy to do! This is the same process that I used to downgrade my spl from 5.xxx to 4.xxx, then I finished using shadows tutorial to do the rest! The whole process took about and hour to fully complete and to have Deepshining rom installed on my device!
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Im not getting anything like restore on zune..There is restore only for Media files..
In upadte option its says no moe updates and the restore option is not there...

roshand1 said:
Im not getting anything like restore on zune..There is restore only for Media files..
In upadte option its says no moe updates and the restore option is not there...
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Make sure your phone is plugged into the computer when trying to get the restore point. Should be select, phone - settings - update (Zune should check for an update and say, no updates availabe) and then there should be a restore button towards the bottom of the update box. If it's not there then you must not have a pre mango backup for it and you will have to use the Goldcard method to do it which is pretty easy once you have the Y cable put together and a sd card reader! Here's a pretty detailed tutorial for the Goldcard method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893152

Then there is no backup i feel, because no restore button is displayed....
I wanted to know without unlocking the phone like mine..Can we do jailbreak....
To download paid apps for free...

Hi,hope this is the right place to ask this. I bought this HD7 last week from Ebay and it's current specs are;
Software: Windows 7.5
OS: 7.10.8107.79
Bootloader: 5.11.XXX
Zune is saying there's an update available,haven't updated yet though.
So my question is,I want to install the Deepshining rom,do I do the following;
Flash the NoDo rom as listed in the Q&A section of the Deepshining thread,via bootloader,to downgrade SPL.
Flash RSPL via bootloader,then immediately flash Deepshining rom.
Is it that easy,or am I missing something (or everything !) Have flashed loads of roms on phones in the past with no bother,but this seems dodgy to me as I keep seeing the word 'brick' and that scares me a bit.
Thanks for any light you can shed on this.

transmaniacon said:
Hi,hope this is the right place to ask this. I bought this HD7 last week from Ebay and it's current specs are;
Software: Windows 7.5
OS: 7.10.8107.79
Bootloader: 5.11.XXX
Zune is saying there's an update available,haven't updated yet though.
So my question is,I want to install the Deepshining rom,do I do the following;
Flash the NoDo rom as listed in the Q&A section of the Deepshining thread,via bootloader,to downgrade SPL.
Flash RSPL via bootloader,then immediately flash Deepshining rom.
Is it that easy,or am I missing something (or everything !) Have flashed loads of roms on phones in the past with no bother,but this seems dodgy to me as I keep seeing the word 'brick' and that scares me a bit.
Thanks for any light you can shed on this.
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Wish it was that easy...lol! Sounds like you understand for the most part, but with the bootloader of 5.xxx there are really only two options for being able to flash a custom rom.
1. A pre-Mango backup/restore point on your p/c. Which since you just got the device won't be a possibility for you.
2. The goldcard/Y cable method. Which is really easy and inexpensive! You can build you own cable or purchase one.
Check out Shadows tutorial, he explains the whole process and steps to flash a custom rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295068

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Thanks,looks like I could do that and only for a small outlay. But,I may be back..lol.