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It does not like our phones. Has great options but.......it sucks. Everytime I flash it on my phone my recovery goes bad in a cpl days. Never had this problem with RA. Do a search rom manager pops up all over the place with bad recoveries. Stop using it ppl. Im sure ill get flamed for this but oh well. Kinda tired of reading of noobs that fall victim to a .apk that seems very easy to use until it craps out and then your stuck at the airport with a bad recovery and ADB no where in sight. Or even if u had ADB you still have no clue how to fix it!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742007
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762325
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7443928&highlight=revovery#post7443928
I couldn't agree more.
never used it thank goodness.........
Never happened to me
EDIT: Sorry for my rudeness, anyways, people should know that it's not the greatest idea to use rom manager with cm5/cm6. It has already been established that it may be a bad idea to use the program with the following roms. Sorry I get really cranky in the mornings, not the best idea to come onto the forum with some old news :|
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Never happened to me, you're obviously too stupid to use it.
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I have never used it and I agree with him just from all the posts I have seen related too it messing up people's recovery images. Does that make me stupid?
I've used it for a few weeks now with no problems on my MyTouch on 1.6, 2.1, and 2.2 ROMs. Not saying others aren't having legitimate issues, but people in general are much more likely to post negative reports than positive ones.
protomanez said:
Never happened to me, you're obviously too stupid to use it.
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hahahahaha good one. Not to stupid to use it. the ui is very simple and easy to use. Flash clockwork or flash alternate. What im to stupid to do is figure out how to fix it after it kills recovery. but thank you for your input, I'm sure it will help someone out.
protomanez said:
Never happened to me, you're obviously too stupid to use it.
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Please lead us retartds through your install procedure, current rom, set-up so we can be as learndededed as you. I have had cm5&6 with ra installed upon initial set up. No swap/ noext1234, stock mt3g spl 2.22.23.02 radio. Nothing special. I even did it with the donut mytouch rom w/root.I only use basic apps, nothing that would interfere with recovery. to me it seems that when u flash a cpl different roms a day is when it hangs up. I can usually get the phone to boot back up, which gives me a chance to get back into rom manager and flash ra recovery back to the phone. the last cpl times I had to wipe cache before it would actually flash RA recovery. so basically if u can get the phone to boot past the splash screen go to rom manager and flash the **** out of ra recovery until it works. First we found out that clockwork didnt like flashing zip's and backups on low batteries 30% and lower. then the always fun recoverly log issue(cant recall the exact error right now) and of course the cant get to recovery issue. I know it's not a widesporead problem but it is a problem that renders phones useless until u can find someone nice enough to help u and not treat u like a retard. Not everyone knows as much about phones as you guys do....congratulations you know all there is about phones. go learn some ****ing human decency, if u have nothing helpful to say then shut up.
have been using it without Rom manager and highly disagree with the poster.doing it 'wrong' or without knowing 'how to' can certainly cause problems but that should not be described as the problem of the product. lot of people can not use nuclear power correctly (look at the USA) and now we call describe nuclear power as menace which is lame :/
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have been using it without Rom manager and highly disagree with the poster.doing it 'wrong' or without knowing 'how to' can certainly cause problems but that should not be described as the problem of the product. lot of people can not use nuclear power correctly (look at the USA) and now we call describe nuclear power as menace which is lame :/
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hmmmmm. Maybe since its flashing clockwork from inside rom manager is what might be killing it for some of us. tonight I will try just flashing clockwork outside of rom manager and see how that goes. i like clockwork's set up and it is easy to use, just kinda freaks me out when my recovery goes bad.
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have been using it without Rom manager and highly disagree with the poster.doing it 'wrong' or without knowing 'how to' can certainly cause problems but that should not be described as the problem of the product. lot of people can not use nuclear power correctly (look at the USA) and now we call describe nuclear power as menace which is lame :/
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but at the same time thats why it is a part of rom manager. one click recovery flasher. to make it "easy". i highly doubt you can go into rom manager and incorrectly flash clockwork recovery. its a one click thing
it's also spoken out at many threads at xda that flashing the recovery from within the OS causes issues, so trying to install the recovery from PC or even RA1.7 should be a better option.
I'm considering that you already know the commands for that. better luck! remember, clock work will allow you to flash anything without signing - meaning? you can edit any update.zip to your liking and then forget about all the trouble of signing it before flashing. a simple toggle should do the trick while you are in recovery mode happy flashing.
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It is either a case of your phone, sd card setup/left over files etc..
I use rom manager on every phone I root with no problems since its release. 6 G1's, 3 Fender LE's, 7 Mytouch 1.2 and 4 Evos. Sometimes, it takes couple seconds to show up or go into recovery, but that doesnt mean its gone. Recovery cant just dissapear without something either trying to over write it or it being erased.
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It is either a case of your phone, sd card setup/left over files etc..
I use rom manager on every phone I root with no problems since its release. 6 G1's, 3 Fender LE's, 7 Mytouch 1.2 and 4 Evos. Sometimes, it takes couple seconds to show up or go into recovery, but that doesnt mean its gone. Recovery cant just dissapear without something either trying to over write it or it being erased.
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Im gonna give it one more try. I dont think I have ever.....
flashed clockwork from rom manager
reboot into recovery from rom manager right then (read some where that on some roms when u reboot to recovery using the regular way it might mess up....not sure about this one).
wipe everything (clockwork wipes more that amon ra)
reflash any rom
in my case... above steps then in this order
flash fireats custom mtd part 1.1
super E
Gapps
overclock update
fireats custom mtd part 1.2
anyone see a issue with what I have done so far??
Ok I will post back when clockwork fails again.....and if not f-in sweet
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It does not like our phones. Has great options but.......it sucks. Everytime I flash it on my phone my recovery goes bad in a cpl days. Never had this problem with RA. Do a search rom manager pops up all over the place with bad recoveries. Stop using it ppl. Im sure ill get flamed for this but oh well. Kinda tired of reading of noobs that fall victim to a .apk that seems very easy to use until it craps out and then your stuck at the airport with a bad recovery and ADB no where in sight. Or even if u had ADB you still have no clue how to fix it!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742007
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762325
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7443928&highlight=revovery#post7443928
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hahahahaha good one. Not to stupid to use it. the ui is very simple and easy to use. Flash clockwork or flash alternate. What im to stupid to do is figure out how to fix it after it kills recovery. but thank you for your input, I'm sure it will help someone out.
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You found your answer within the first example link that you provided, look at post #3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742007
rom manager is not for idiots like yourself. rom manager is a great tool for many different phones. sometimes it doesnt flash a recovery correctly maybe it be poor service to download the recovery, or low memory when flashing it. an advanced user (who its made for) can still flash recovery via fastboot, and have all the helpfulness and easy ui of rom manager and easy access to cm nightlies.
dont knock a dev who works on many different phones, and dont rely on noob application reports and bad reviews. anyone who finds rom manager crap is just a poor android user.
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sometimes it doesnt flash a recovery correctly maybe it be poor service to download the recovery, or low memory when flashing it.
dont rely on noob application reports and bad reviews. anyone who finds rom manager crap is just a poor android user.
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i didn't want to get into this pointless discussion, but you have made a ****ty argument for rom mgr, you have confirmed that it doesn't work properly in certain circumstances, which is a good enough reason to not bother with it.
also, why shouldn't we rely on bad reviews? that's the point of a review, to give some idea about what experience to expect.
(i have never used it myself, amon ra recovery is enough for me.)
I agree it is an 'easy' shortcut that is not the best decision.. Like for example I think it killed my phone. I repaired permissions via rom manager, rebooted as it told me to and now my g1 wont boot past the g1 logo. I could install from a backup but the backup is 1+ month old (my error oops!). I am hoping to find a solution... Really dont wanna wipe everything..
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i didn't want to get into this pointless discussion, but you have made a ****ty argument for rom mgr, you have confirmed that it doesn't work properly in certain circumstances, which is a good enough reason to not bother with it.
also, why shouldn't we rely on bad reviews? that's the point of a review, to give some idea about what experience to expect.
(i have never used it myself, amon ra recovery is enough for me.)
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I made a perfectly good argument. Yes it can "mess up", but thats not at the fault of the app. It's at the fault of the phone. There are things that can go wrong that Koush cannot control. It is for ADVANCED users as a quick helpful UI for recovery-based operations. People that don't know what they're doing, or only half-way do shouldn't be using it. However, too many Android users *think* they are advanced enough, yet 5 minutes after using it, post a "PLEASE HELP, PHONE IS BROKEN", because they DON'T know what they're doing.
I'm not saying that all bad reviews are missguied, but I can assure that 90% of them are from noobs that have no idea what they're doing. They rooted their phone because someone told them it was cool, and they have absolutetly no idea whats in their hands and what they can do with it. Let alone, how to properly work it and fix problems. It's easy as pie to point out noobs from those crowds of users, those 3 links in the OP's post are all perfectly examples. People who came to XDA, signed up, never posted anything, then messed up and came crying to the board asking for help (usually in Android Development because people like them, and the OP too, don't how to to post in the correct section).
So for the last time, if you don't know what you're doing on your phone, don't do it. Just because you have root, and an app says "for root users", doesn't mean its for you, which EVERYONE assumes it is. It's piss-poor users like that, that ruin app reviews and the name of Android everywhere.
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I made a perfectly good argument. Yes it can "mess up", but thats not at the fault of the app. It's at the fault of the phone. There are things that can go wrong that Koush cannot control. It is for ADVANCED users as a quick helpful UI for recovery-based operations. People that don't know what they're doing, or only half-way do shouldn't be using it. However, too many Android users *think* they are advanced enough, yet 5 minutes after using it, post a "PLEASE HELP, PHONE IS BROKEN", because they DON'T know what they're doing.
I'm not saying that all bad reviews are missguied, but I can assure that 90% of them are from noobs that have no idea what they're doing. They rooted their phone because someone told them it was cool, and they have absolutetly no idea whats in their hands and what they can do with it. Let alone, how to properly work it and fix problems. It's easy as pie to point out noobs from those crowds of users, those 3 links in the OP's post are all perfectly examples. People who came to XDA, signed up, never posted anything, then messed up and came crying to the board asking for help (usually in Android Development because people like them, and the OP too, don't how to to post in the correct section).
So for the last time, if you don't know what you're doing on your phone, don't do it. Just because you have root, and an app says "for root users", doesn't mean its for you, which EVERYONE assumes it is. It's piss-poor users like that, that ruin app reviews and the name of Android everywhere.
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Get a clue , its a program any gimp, including you, can install from the market, it is made in such way ...the fact that it dosent fail to write the recovery in fastboot mode means nothing!
This program shouldnt let the G1 user flesh any rec image. Till that happens it is the DEV's fault. Shouldnt be in the G1 CM's either.
I've been searching, and reading, and my eyes hurt. I normally don't like to post threads, but I'm left with no choice. If this topic has been covered, then I guess my searchin' skillz are stating to lack. Here is my delimna:
Rooted, Lagfix, enabled Side-loading, recently installed ClockworkMod, stock firmware. I ran a backup using ROM Manager/ClockworkMod. I was attempting to install the Mobile AP fix for WiFi Hotspotting from designgears. I downloaded the new kernel per instructions (Mobile AP ony). I first tried installing it using ROM Manager's boot option into Clockwork without renaming MobileAP.zip. Still received black screen when I open the Mobile AP settings that the new kernel was trying to fix. So I thought that the flash didn't work, so this time I renamed the kernel file to update.zip and did the standard method of flash using stock recovery mode.
Now the phone boots to the Galaxy S screen, then just a black screen. The bottom row buttons seem to be active, but nothing happens. Holding power....nothing. I have to pull the battery; however, I can boot into stock recovery.
Now here's the delimna. I can boot into recovery, but the update.zip file is NOT the one for ClockworkMod, its the modified kernel. Is there a way that I can browse the files on the phone so I can change the update.zip file? I want to put Clockwork's in place so I can restore using my backup made yesterday....It's not a huge order if I have to flashback to stock and lose everything as I usually do that everynow and again anyways (usually I'm prepared). I won't lose anything important that isn't already backed up except maybe some pictures....
BUT, I can't help but try. It's just me I like to break stuff and fix 'em. I want to try to run that backup I made. I have Odin, and I tried flashing the kernel back to stock (i had one hell of a time finding information on how to use it). As a matter of fact, I found instructions on HOW to use it, but I gave up trying to find useful information on how the program runs (like a user guide, what else can it do, that sort of thing....). I spent hours reading thread after thread........information overload I guess.
I figured someone might point me in the right direction. How can I browse/edit the contents of the phone while in Recovery or Download mode?
You could try letting the phone boot up, yes I know it's only a black screen, then plug in the usb to your PC and see if ADB works.
If so then just adb shell into it and work with command line.
I'm not sure if ADB would work in stock recovery mode but that's worth a shot too.
Excellent idea, but no luck. I can get the computer to recognize the phone in recovery mode, but ADB shows the device offline, and Windows Explorer shows 2 drives with the whole "insert disk into drive ..." message. Can't boot phone to enable "development mode", that might have something to do with it......unless I'm missing something?
swedishcancerboi said:
Excellent idea, but no luck. I can get the computer to recognize the phone in recovery mode, but ADB shows the device offline, and Windows Explorer shows 2 drives with the whole "insert disk into drive ..." message. Can't boot phone to enable "development mode", that might have something to do with it......unless I'm missing something?
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Wasn't sure if that would work or not.
So, if you turn it on and just let it sit as long as a normal boot, then try adb does anything work?
I actually let it sit for ~15 minutes. computer doesn't even register the usb being plugged in. I'm going to give it another go or two, but in about an hour I'm going to have to call it quits and just flash it with Odin. Don't want to give up yet, but I am driving out of town later this afternoon and must have my phone for the trip. Maybe I'll break it again tomorrow and play with it over the weekend!
Let me know if you have any other ideas. I'll let you know when I give up.
While on that subject (watch someone tell me to move my post after this.....), maybe I'll experiment with a new ROM. Any recommendations? (without OC, device is fast enough). I haven't read much on the different flavors available at the moment (I think I read something about a 2.2 from I9000 or something?).
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While on that subject (watch someone tell me to move my post after this.....), maybe I'll experiment with a new ROM. Any recommendations? (without OC, device is fast enough). I haven't read much on the different flavors available at the moment (I think I read something about a 2.2 from I9000 or something?).
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Hybrid from eugene is pretty fast especially if you add the voodoo kernel to it. Thats what I heard tho. Because when i tried it out it was pretty quick with out a lagfix and without autokiller. Only used it for 20 min tho as i couldn't get Titanium backup to work. I think the titanium problem is a hit or a miss.
well, I guess I'm going to have to load stock and wipe everything...oh well. Let's see how this goes. Then I'll start playing with ROMs this weekend. Thanks anyway!
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well, I guess I'm going to have to load stock and wipe everything...oh well. Let's see how this goes. Then I'll start playing with ROMs this weekend. Thanks anyway!
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Well, if your going to do that take an extra 2 minutes and load Eugenes Hybrid R3 while your at it. It's extremely easy to do and in my opinion the fastest thing we can put on these phones right now.
Vibrant ROM? is that safe? I mean, I know they are all Galaxy S, but is the hardware really that identical?
I don't think eugenes captivate hybrid is actually a vibrant rom. I think he just borrowed some of the better parts.
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Got it! I used the one click stock down loader to get the phone to boot. I then noticed that many of my files were still there, music, zips.....so I thought....maybe my backup is still there.
Instead of using my original root, I decided to try Unleash the Beast.applied it so I could load Rom Manager.i opened Rom manager and it showed my backup!
I tried restoring then without success (no update.zip) and had to flash clockwork (even though it showed it already loaded, guess it needed to be refreshed, makes sense since it is a fresh firmware), selected my restore and it ran like a charm.
I am just surprised. I thought the act of flashing the Rom would wipe everything. Apparently not if you never do the "master clear."
Thankfully I had just installed Rom Manager the day before and had a fresh backup. Looks liked I'm gonna have to start shelling out more beer money to the devs!
Now I can prepare to break it again and again. Let the fun begin!
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Nice. Yeah, stuff you have stored on your "internal SD" is safe between flashes. Of course apps, contacts, etc get wiped, but that's an easy fix.
"the more you know," eh? Ha!
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ROM Manager just does not work.
................... So mad anybody buys this program it installs Clockwork Boot Partition but IT DOES NOT ALLOW TO UNINSTALL !!!! This is like a virus.
To make matter worse the program just does not work.
Download any RON from ROM Manager it boots to Clockwork Recovery "the virus" and just sits the with the clockwork Android/exclamation.
Clockwork does not answer emails.
Their Forum is full of people that like me are kind of nobbish and very mad that you can not restore the normal android partition.
Two questions anybody have any clue why the program does not work for me?
Failing that how to uninstall revert back to normal Nexus One configuration?
I seen somewhere where somebody says you download a file.
Run some commands from somewhere??? not sure where. I think if you find the the Android ADK you can connect you Nexus One to a computer, turn on some sort of terminal emulator "how?", type these commands from a promote in this emulator. THEY SAY THIS IS EASY ???
You know I live in Toronto I would pay somebody to revert my N1 to stock and not go through the hassle.
All this rooting stuff maybe nice, Titanium Back up, Shoot me, "Cool ROMs which I can not install with ROM Manager" but the education curve is not worth it in my book.
Did you click "flash clockwork recovery" at the top of the program?
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Did you click "flash clockwork recovery" at the top of the program?
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I did but it still does not work. Oh well tried to load CyanogenMod 6.0.0 said there was an error in recovery and it did not work.
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Did you click "flash clockwork recovery" at the top of the program?
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I did but it still does not work. Oh well tried to load CyanogenMod 6.0.0 said there was an error in recovery and it did not work got the exclamation android again
Did you flash anything? Or just root and install Rom Manager?
Here are the steps......
Made sure I was rooted, ran a few apps that require root permissions.
Ran ROM Manager,
Flashed the latest Clockmod Recovery
Select Download ROM
Selected CyanogenMod 6.0.0 "I know it work well at least they say so here"
First time select backup current ROM, I did not go for a wipe, selected Google Apps addon.
Watched and it seemed to back up,
Rebooted but.... everything looked the same.
About phone, looked at Andriod Version 2.2 Baseband , kernal Build FRF91
see CyanogenMod nowhere.
Sucker for punishment opened ROM Manager and it asked me if I wanted to report an error "cancel" tried to install CyanogenMod again, it went staright to Andriod Guy/Exclaimation, hit up volume/power, rebooted.
Now whenever I try again I get Andriod guy/exclamation.
I think if I hit "fix permisions in ROM Manager", Flashed CLockwork recovery again .... I can go back to the first step above.
Have you downloaded a rom off of xda and attempted to flash it through recovery?
You can download ROMs from ROM Manager.
I downloaded them from ROM Manager.
Is Rom manager listed under the allowed list under the superuser apps? And it doesn't seem like clockwork is properly loaded on the system, otherwise you would not see the android/with exclamation mark when you boot into recovery. You would see that the latest clockwork recovery is listed twice on the top of the phone. If you have both lines there, that means you have the latest recovery. If you are still having problems with the latest clockwork recovery to install, have you tried the earlier versions to see if they properly install on the phone?
From my experiences, you need to indeed wipe and install gapps to properly install any rom. Then use titanium backup to restore your apps and settings. Looks like you are already backed up/nandroid before doing so.
Wipe first. My fault I didnt see that you ddint wipe
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Wipe first. My fault I didnt see that you ddint wipe
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I know most people say when you download ROMs you need to wipe.
I know with Android this should not be a big deal, enter your Google info, the market downloads everything you paid for and then set up exchange mail again but it does take me a few hours to go through the steps and I been lazy.
Try a wipe......
No one said rooting would be easy lol. Customizing one's possesion, let it be a car to a phone is no real small feat. Like anything, you can go into detail as much as you want or not depending on why type of Rom you choose and like. For CM6, that ROM is excellent for customizing pretty much everything on your phone, but it does take some time to get it to your liking.
If you like a "kitchen sink" ROM, have you looked at eVilD's Sense ROMs? Well thats if you like the Sense UI's really, which I do not mind, but everything is thrown in there lol. BUT CM6 is a great launching pad for a novice, like I still am.
I've had no problems with Rom Manager. which clockwork did you install? the beta or stable one? Cause i know when i was doing mine it asked me.
I did the following steps
1. Root
2. Installed Rom Manager and backed up
3. Downloaded Rom of my choice
4. Full wipe and installed rom (via rom manager)
The OP just didn't root, of course.
If the education curve isn't worth it - just uninstall the application. Because you didn't install anything besides the application - because you have no root privileges - because you didn't root. And since you state that you don't want to learn - then why did you start messing with it in the first place?
The only thing that I don't like about ROM Manager is that it creates a lot of people like the OP - starting to mess with something without any wish for understanding, how it works, screwing things up (or not), and start complaining. You did what you did, you didn't bother learning, so why exactly are you complaining?!
Well I will ignore Jack_r1 who is a troll.
"All boards have them ..... sigh"
For the people that were much more friendly and helpful,
Ok next time I try it I will do a full wipe.
Full wipe won't help you. Installing a root-only program without rooting the phone and expecting it to work wouldn't care if you wipe or not.
Guess you really have no clue...
Read my signature.
Calling me a troll won't help you either, and won't make you less infant. Especially for anyone who did bother reading my sig and my posts.
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Full wipe won't help you. Installing a root-only program without rooting the phone and expecting it to work wouldn't care if you wipe or not.
Guess you really have no clue...
Read my signature.
Calling me a troll won't help you either, and won't make you less infant. Especially for anyone who did bother reading my sig and my posts.
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I thought OP said he has root.
To OP: Open the app drawer, do you have the superuser app?
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I thought OP said he has root.
To OP: Open the app drawer, do you have the superuser app?
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I didn't bother reading his next post, where he said he had root. My mistake.
I believe he had the recovery installed initially (otherwise he wouldn't see it backing up), but the first reboot to stock ROM removed it. After that, he wasn't able to do anything, being booted to stock Android recovery. And came here to complain. I guess a difference between running a program and rebooting from different partition aren't common sense to understand? Should be a prerequisite list before rooting.
The correct way would be, of course, to reflash the recovery through ROM manager again, but for people who don't understand the concept of dual-booting and think they run an application - that's not obvious (and it's one of the reasons I think ROM Manager is bad, and manual installation is good). And the better way would be to read the guides and flash the recovery manually. And while going any of those ways, whining on internet boards instead of asking questions would be the most unwelcome way.
I use ROM Manager because I'm a lazy bastard and it has worked flawlessly for me. I have literally flashed over 50 ROMs (mostly CM nightlies) and it has yet to fail me.
But people that have no clue what they're doing shouldn't be using a program like this and I'm pretty sure it comes with a disclaimer of sorts? Although I've barely flashed anything manually I did read up on the processes before going the custom ROMs route, it just seemed obvious.
Me too - lazy bastard, that is...
However, there was an issue with one of the ROM Manager updates a while back, where backups wouldn't restore. That's when a bit of manual knowledge came in handy...
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Hello everybody. I've never unlocked, rooted, or done any modding to a phone before... I'm also not much of a unix/linux guy, but have SOME familiarity with it.
OK, so.....
I've been doing some reading around this forum & am still confused about some things, and also have some questions I haven't found answered. I apologize if these have been asked/answered elsewhere, but I have tried searching.
1. Some terms are used in this forum that I am unfamilar with: adw, adm? jig?
2. After flashing to froyo, everyone has the same Android Device ID? So, how do you restore your own ID, I haven't seen this answered anywhere.
3. I've seen people mentioning phone batches... what is this info needed for? Mine is batch 1009 if that matters.
4. OK, so if you screw something up & brick your phone... you can use ODIN w/JF6 to fix this? There is no way to be unable to un-brick your phone, as long as you have ODIN & JF6?
5. I've downloaded the GalaxyS OCR software, but you still need to use another program to flash your ROM file over? Am I understanding this correctly?
6. Where do I get the ROMs for froyo.. and what is the easiest software to use for flashing the rom? I see people mentioning Cognition a lot, but they also mention some others like Axura. Is there a definitive comparison of the various ROMs someplace that I am missing?
Thanks in advance everybody!
Hello everybody. I've never unlocked, rooted, or done any modding to a phone before... I'm also not much of a unix/linux guy, but have SOME familiarity with it.
OK, so.....
I've been doing some reading around this forum & am still confused about some things, and also have some questions I haven't found answered. I apologize if these have been asked/answered elsewhere, but I have tried searching.
1. Some terms are used in this forum that I am unfamilar with: adw, adm? jig?
Adw is a launcher
Not sure on adm
Jig is a device some have put together and used to recover from brick
2. After flashing to froyo, everyone has the same Android Device ID? So, how do you restore your own ID, I haven't seen this answered anywhere.
There is an app on the market android id changer. I believe you need to be rooted. Download app, click save id. When you load a froyo rom some will automatically use the saved id, others may not. In the case that it does not get same app load id, click change. Phone still reboot id will be changed
3. I've seen people mentioning phone batches... what is this info needed for? Mine is batch 1009 if that matters.
You should be fine. I am the same batch
4. OK, so if you screw something up & brick your phone... you can use ODIN w/JF6 to fix this? There is no way to be unable to un-brick your phone, as long as you have ODIN & JF6?
Odin will save you from just about everything. Couple things, only works on pc. Download drivers for the phone prior to flashing anything. Make sure your phone is recognized by the pc. Attempt to get into download mode. Pull battery, sim, external sd. Put battery back in. while holding volume up and down plug in usb while connected to pc. Screen should show orange guy with shovel. If works just pull battery to get out of that screen
Attempt to get into recovery. Volume up and down and per at the same time. When at &t screen comes up, let go of all three. A screen should come up with blue letters
If you can not get into either of these I would not flash
5. I've downloaded the GalaxyS OCR software, but you still need to use another program to flash your ROM file over? Am I understanding this correctly?
Yes
6. Where do I get the ROMs for froyo.. and what is the easiest software to use for flashing the rom? I see people mentioning Cognition a lot, but they also mention some others like Axura. Is there a definitive comparison of the various ROMs someplace that I am missing?
Roms can be found in the captivate development section. There are several froyo roms.
You install roms using free app, rom manager. Download app, open, top option says flash clockwork recovery, click and scroll to captivate. This puts an update zip on your sd card. Power phone off. Get into recovery, three button combo you tested before. Navigate in recovery using volume up and down, select with power. Scroll to reinstall packages. You may get butted back to the same screen, click reinstall packages, will take you to a green recovery screen. Reboot phone.
Find the rom you want and download, can be done directly on phone. Move file to the root If your sd card. Power off remove sim and external sd. Make sure your battery is fully charged. Open rom manager app. Click install rom from sd. Navigate to file, select clear cache and data. If you want to backup your current state there is an option to do so. Click ok, put your phone down, be patient. Couple minutes later you will be booting into your new rom.
Hope this helps
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Personally... I don't know if everyone should be trying to install custom ROM's on their phones.
Alot of people have too many issues figuring out how to root, sideload enable, and then download ROM Manager to install a custom ROM. Then when things go south they don't know how to restore their phone and end up having to warranty it.
Doing any of the above will immediately void your warranty.
But... with all that said I'm running a "stock" Eclair OTA JH7 right now with a few tweaks - and I really can't say I'm missing all the "Froyo goodness" at the moment.
I've rooted and allowed non-market apps with CLShortfuse's One-Click Root program.
Then I downloaded a Lag Fix (RyanZA's OCLF) from the market... and the phone has been screaming along just fine.
And of course.. GPS still doesn't work - but at this point I'm used to it.
No issues with headphone's not working, or terrible battery drain, or the other myriad of issues you will find by installing the latest and greatest. So... rather than start in with the latest popular ROM - I'd just Root and apply a Lagfix and see how it goes from there. If at that point your really comfortable with flashing a ROM - go for it.
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Then I downloaded a Lag Fix (RyanZA's OCLF) from the market... and the phone has been screaming along just fine.
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OK, so I've dipped my toe in & rooted the phone using TGA_Gunnman's "GalaxyS_One-Click_Root_All_Models"
According to the program, I'm rooted. Phone rebooted into that recovery mode & I chose "Reinstall all packages".
Phone rebooted as it's supposed to. Went into Market, all seems good, but I can't find this OCLF you mention. Searched on RyanZA, OCLF, and also "lag fix" but don't get any results... ??
Also, The AT&T programs are no longer listed under my applications manager, were they uninstalled by default? I still see a couple of AT&T apps when I go to view all applications, but can't find these apps to uninstall in the app manager section.
Thanks!
Bill
OCLF I believe had been taken off the market but I would not suggest using that program for anything other then rooting your f device
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So it has... whats the deal?
Not sure why it was removed but I only used it as an easy way to root. The lag fix on that app was an ext 2 lag fix that is obsolete. If you are willing to apply a lag fix and want froyo read the cognition, perception, auxura, etc threads in development and decide which one you want.
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If you just want your phone to work, I'd suggest just doing one of the lag fixes and staying as "stock" as possible. There's a one-click root/unroot for the captivate for rooting. The rest is up to you. But, for me having exchange support for work is a must and Froyo works perfectly with my company's exchange set up.
If you're a "tinkering" type of person, then go for some custom stuff! I believe best way to learn is just go do it. Read through the development section for a week or so (post your questions in this section though... devs seem to be a little snippy lately) and have fun. Odin has saved me from bricking my device a few times. Like was said before just make sure you download and test working usb drivers and can that you can access your device from windows.
Good luck!
Billbo1970 said:
2. After flashing to froyo, everyone has the same Android Device ID? So, how do you restore your own ID, I haven't seen this answered anywhere.
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ARG! I flashed Perception build 5 without backing up my original device ID. What is the importance of the device ID?
If I go back to the my stock ROM backed up with ROM Manager, will it still have my original device ID?
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ARG! I flashed Perception build 5 without backing up my original device ID. What is the importance of the device ID?
If I go back to the my stock ROM backed up with ROM Manager, will it still have my original device ID?
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I believe perception 5 generates a random one.
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mcord11758 said:
I believe perception 5 generates a random one.
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K, thanks, but that still doesn't answer my question regarding the significance/importance of the device ID. How is it used and what is it used for?
loonieryan said:
K, thanks, but that still doesn't answer my question regarding the significance/importance of the device ID. How is it used and what is it used for?
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The market and some games access it. So with leaked froyo, when everyone has the same id it causes issues because there can be like a thousand people with the same id trying to download at the same time.
As far as the games,i never had a problem do I can not say which ones and what the issue was
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Billbo1970 said:
OK, so I've dipped my toe in & rooted the phone using TGA_Gunnman's "GalaxyS_One-Click_Root_All_Models"
According to the program, I'm rooted. Phone rebooted into that recovery mode & I chose "Reinstall all packages".
Phone rebooted as it's supposed to. Went into Market, all seems good, but I can't find this OCLF you mention. Searched on RyanZA, OCLF, and also "lag fix" but don't get any results... ??
Also, The AT&T programs are no longer listed under my applications manager, were they uninstalled by default? I still see a couple of AT&T apps when I go to view all applications, but can't find these apps to uninstall in the app manager section.
Thanks!
Bill
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AT&T applications are system applications and therefore do not show under the default application manager view. If you are still "stock", you would do Settings>Applications>Manage Applications>Press Menu button>Filter>All. This will list all the applications on the phone. Be careful what you try and remove if you do this. Remove the wrong system app and your phone will dump. Most system apps won't let you remove them this way, you would have to use ADB or Titanium Backup to remove.
Search and read. Good Luck!
iirc batch 1009 doesnt have download mode.
you should flash the one click that enables the 3 button download mode before you do anything...
then make a jig so that you can recover if anything ever messes up...
then go nuts and flash 10x a day.
Ah thanks for the info, that shows them. So, I havne't done a thing other than root the phone so far. I've been trying to find the 'lag fix', but haven't been able to. I have however found a lot of posting on how the lag fix makes the phone much faster, but also drains the hell out of the battery. Any opinions on that? That's really all i wanted right now, a faster phone & get rid of some AT&T apps. One of them seems to run all the time (I use my wifi a lot), is it safe to kill AT&T Hot Spots, or will I lose wifi connectivity if I do that?
Bill
Billbo1970 said:
Ah thanks for the info, that shows them. So, I havne't done a thing other than root the phone so far. I've been trying to find the 'lag fix', but haven't been able to. I have however found a lot of posting on how the lag fix makes the phone much faster, but also drains the hell out of the battery. Any opinions on that? That's really all i wanted right now, a faster phone & get rid of some AT&T apps. One of them seems to run all the time (I use my wifi a lot), is it safe to kill AT&T Hot Spots, or will I lose wifi connectivity if I do that?
Bill
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The only lag fixes out there come with custom roms or kernals. Battery life depends on the rom but common sense would dictate if you are driving 100 mile per hr it will take more gas then going 50
I do not think you will have any issues killing at&t hot spots. It is gone from all custom roms so it can not be too important. Do not mess with anything google especially gtalk
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Thanks for the info! Well, I've bought the paid version of Titanium Backup & just backed up the phone; and I have Odin w/the correct ROM file, so I may start delving a little deeper into the phone now.
Any suggestions on a ROM for someone that just wants to speed up the phone a bit & lose the ATT bloatware? Don't really care if it's 2.2, I can wait for the official to come out & be ROM'd up by the geniuses here
Bill
Billbo1970 said:
Thanks for the info! Well, I've bought the paid version of Titanium Backup & just backed up the phone; and I have Odin w/the correct ROM file, so I may start delving a little deeper into the phone now.
Any suggestions on a ROM for someone that just wants to speed up the phone a bit & lose the ATT bloatware? Don't really care if it's 2.2, I can wait for the official to come out & be ROM'd up by the geniuses here
Bill
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If you do not care about 2.2 a good starter rom would be cognition 2.16. You can get it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
Click on get cognition here. It will bring you to a page with a bunch of links. Personally I would use the 2.16 without hsupa. If you never use bluetooth then it does not make a difference. This rom uses the voodoo lagfix. The only downfall is that everyone had moved to 2.2 roms do if you post questions in that thread I am not sure you will get much back.
If you are going 2.2 I would read and try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=856877
Perception is also an option but from what I am reading I would not flash the latest update until it gets worked through some.
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mcord11758 said:
Personally I would use the 2.16 without hsupa.
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What's huspa?
Billbo1970 said:
What's huspa?
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I am probably not the best to explain this but it is a faster upload and download capability that us not standard on the Captivate. Meaning if you have it, and the data in your area is strong, you should have a faster download/browser experience
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Literally spent all day trying to root my CDMA Hero. Nothing works. I cannot use sync because it disconnects with the debugging and does not allow me to install a previous RUU. So I decided to use an app on the store (one click rooters like z4) it seemed like it worked, got SuperUser, said that my XC Chip was still on...soo I guess Im not rooted. Didn't notice that till I tried to install Cyanogenmod 7 2.3.2 on my device, which sent it back to my saved place (forgot what its called lol). Have no Idea where to go, anyone have a solution to the sync, seems like it would be the easiest way to do it. I have read the wikis, searched, done all I could do. Now I come to you, Help pleaseeee.
Software if you need it
Baseband Version 2.42.02.10.29
well i personally have had the same issues with one click roots,
Id HIGHLY suggest look at the Cyanogenmod wiki
to root and before rooting setting up ABD through the SDK
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Hero_(CDMA):_Full_Update_Guide
edit: PM me if you need anything else
Are you still having trouble gaining root???
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iHusk said:
Literally spent all day trying to root my CDMA Hero. Nothing works. I cannot use sync because it disconnects with the debugging and does not allow me to install a previous RUU. So I decided to use an app on the store (one click rooters like z4) it seemed like it worked, got SuperUser, said that my XC Chip was still on...soo I guess Im not rooted. Didn't notice that till I tried to install Cyanogenmod 7 2.3.2 on my device, which sent it back to my saved place (forgot what its called lol). Have no Idea where to go, anyone have a solution to the sync, seems like it would be the easiest way to do it. I have read the wikis, searched, done all I could do. Now I come to you, Help pleaseeee.
Software if you need it
Baseband Version 2.42.02.10.29
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The XC, you are referring to is actually for Engineering bootloader S-ON or S-OFF. This has no effect on rooting your phone. Everyone here had S-ON until sometime late last year.
What OS are you running? Windows, Mac, Linux
32bit or 64 bit?
Did you flash a recovery?
Were you able to boot into recovery? (Power off phone, while holding home button, press the power button)
What did you get?
Did you try installing titanium backup to see if you were root?
Download busybox from the market and then open it up and install 1.18.
Try TB again.
Or try installing ROM manager and flash clockwork mod from the app.
Without more info it is really hard to help.
unCoRrUpTeD said:
The XC, you are referring to is actually for Engineering bootloader S-ON or S-OFF. This has no effect on rooting your phone. Everyone here had S-ON until sometime late last year.
What OS are you running? Windows, Mac, Linux
32bit or 64 bit?
Did you flash a recovery?
Were you able to boot into recovery? (Power off phone, while holding home button, press the power button)
What did you get?
Did you try installing titanium backup to see if you were root?
Download busybox from the market and then open it up and install 1.18.
Try TB again.
Or try installing ROM manager and flash clockwork mod from the app.
Without more info it is really hard to help.
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Still having troubles. Im running 64 bit Windows, I thought I flashed a recovery.
When I press home and power to power on I get
"Clearstorage" "Yes" "no"
thats all...
I installed wireless tether for root, when I went to install Cyano it deleted all my apps besides superuser and wont let me download any of them anymore...
You need anymore info?
coffeehandle said:
well i personally have had the same issues with one click roots,
Id HIGHLY suggest look at the Cyanogenmod wiki
to root and before rooting setting up ABD through the SDK
wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Hero_(CDMA):_Full_Update_Guide
edit: PM me if you need anything else
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Yes I read this, this is actually what I used. Problem is that I cannot use HTC Sync. It never lets me update my RUU for some odd reason...
Update lol. Seems like I am still rooted, I can download and use Wifi Tethering for Root Users. And when in Astro file manager I have a file called \root I believe. question is where do I go from now!
Well it depends on what you want to do with your phone. If its running fine then leave it and just boot into recovery and make a backup incase you need it in the future. To do this "make a backup "
Power off. Then hold down volume down and press power. After the white screen appears press home and wait until your recovery appears. Then select backup and restore. From there you should be able to figure it out. If not then just post and you'll receive advice from other members or my self. If you were looking to further mod your phone you could load one of many custom roms provided by the great developers here, increase internal memory to add more storage, load a different kernel to overclock or change the look of your phone
by flashing a custom theme. Its up to you how far you want to take your phone. Well hope this helps.
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laie1472 said:
Well it depends on what you want to do with your phone. If its running fine then leave it and just boot into recovery and make a backup incase you need it in the future. To do this "make a backup "
Power off. Then hold down volume down and press power. After the white screen appears press home and wait until your recovery appears. Then select backup and restore. From there you should be able to figure it out. If not then just post and you'll receive advice from other members or my self. If you were looking to further mod your phone you could load one of many custom roms provided by the great developers here, increase internal memory to add more storage, load a different kernel to overclock or change the look of your phone
by flashing a custom theme. Its up to you how far you want to take your phone. Well hope this helps.
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How do you flash it? Is it basically the same as when I did Cyanogenmod, just go to ROM manager and install it or what? Thanks for all the help btw, I got 2.3 now, just trying to get it the way I want now...
Im a little puzzled as to when you post "flash it" care to share what it is your referring to. If its a rom, then yes you could flash it threw rom manger, but I wouldn't recommend it. The safest way Imo is threw your recovery if you want to flash a rom. Also if your referring to a rom which one??? And when you post "the way you want" what is it that your trying to achieve???
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laie1472 said:
Im a little puzzled as to when you post "flash it" care to share what it is your referring to. If its a rom, then yes you could flash it threw rom manger, but I wouldn't recommend it. The safest way Imo is threw your recovery if you want to flash a rom. Also if your referring to a rom which one??? And when you post "the way you want" what is it that your trying to achieve???
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Looks wise and apps is what I mean by "the way I want". And basically what I am talking about is custom themes/looks. How would I flash those through recovery. Thats what I am puzzled about lol
Well if your on 2.3 you should have the theme chooser. If that's the case you locate the theme apk. Download it to your sd card. Then open up a file manger and install the theme apk as you would a regular app. Then exit out of your file manger and go to your app drawer and open up theme chooser. Then select the theme you just installed. After its done installing just reboot. Some of the theme chooser themes have extra add on you have to apply to get the full look of theme. The add ons you have to install via zip themer or metamorph. The zip themer you can find in the android themes and apps thread. It might be on the android market but I'm not sure. Metamorph you can find on the android market. If you need help with that aquire either app and just let me know. Now if your theme is flashable via recovery. Download the theme to the root of your sd card. Which means just put the theme on your sd card and not in any folders. Then boot into recovery by powering down. Then hold volume down. Then press the power button. After the screen appears press the home button. Then when your recovery appears. Always make a backup first. Then choose install update zip or flash update zip. Then locate the theme zip and press the track ball. It will ask you to confirm press the track ball for yes or home for no. Press the track ball and when its done press back and choose reboot. When you reboot you should have your rom themed. Make sure the theme your flashing is for your rom because not all themes are for all roms and if you flash the wrong theme you could be entering boot loop city. Also make sure your battery is at least 60 % to flash anything. This is just my opinion on the battery. Well hope this helps. If you find a certain theme you want to install let me know if you run into any problems.
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