Going from i9000 to Captivate GB ROM? Bootloaders? - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm planning on going from JVS to KH3 or KI2 but really don't feel like ODIN'ing back to stock. I know issues could arise if I just flash the i897 Rom over JVS due to bootloaders.
Any way to do this and get the Captivate GB bootloader without wiping with ODIN?

The only confirmed issue I've seen is that the I897 GB Bootloaders break the I9000 Music player. You should be fine just flashing whatever ROM with your current Bootloaders just do the typical clearings/wipes. Might have issues with the music player but that's easily fixed.

I did the same thing you're hoping to do, but all I did was ODIN the I897 BLs. No back to stock, nothing, just the BLs. I did it with the Pinnacle or Apex flasher package (can't remember which one right now). Worked like a charm.

This is Just the I897 GB bootloaders

edtonn said:
I did the same thing you're hoping to do, but all I did was ODIN the I897 BLs. No back to stock, nothing, just the BLs. I did it with the Pinnacle or Apex flasher package (can't remember which one right now). Worked like a charm.
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Fix you flash the BL prior to the new ROM or after?
Thanks for the replies!
I don't think my phone gets along with JVS so well...

Either way is fine, before or after.

qwertyaas said:
Fix you flash the BL prior to the new ROM or after?
Thanks for the replies!
I don't think my phone gets along with JVS so well...
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studacris said:
Either way is fine, before or after.
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Agree with studacris—order doesn't matter. My experience was flashing the I897 BLs while still on Apex, then waited for the Pinnacle 1.3 update and flashed the ROM.

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[Q] GB Bootloaders

I am running Cog 5B2. It has the captivate GB bootloaders. If i want to change to a i9000 GB rom say Apex do I need to change bootloaders or will the GB captivate ones work?
No you do not need to change bootloaders to go to any other gb rom. Plus I've read on here that the gb bootloaders are backwards compatible with froyo/eclair though I have not confirmed that yet myself.
So there really is no need to ever flash bootloaders again.
I wouldn't say never. But it is good to avoid flashing bootloaders if possible, if something goes wrong flashing bootloaders can result in an actual bricked phone.
On the other hand just flashing roms, kernels and modems sans bootloaders the worst you can likely do is get into soft brick situation or a bootloop which can be easily fixed.
Yup I flashed Serindipty7 right on top of cog 5.2 and then Mosaic V right on top of that no issues to report just make sure you wipe data factory reset before. I haven't flashed anything that has the talon kernel, but still no need to flash bootloaders
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Keep it mind GB bootloaders are not backwards compatible with all of them. I know that CM7 does not work with GB bootloaders.
I prefer the I9000 gb bootloaders. They both work the same but The captivate ones have the same button combos which I've always thought were really stupid. The I9k's combos are just more intuitive and simplistic the way they should have always been if you ask me.
Vol up + power = recovery
Vol down + power = download
Nice
Clean
Simple
Well turns out going from Cog5b2 to OBSSESSION puts you in a bootloop. Reflashing Cog I guess for now.
vdubguy said:
Well turns out going from Cog5b2 to OBSSESSION puts you in a bootloop. Reflashing Cog I guess for now.
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Try flashing to stick KF1 before flashing a new rom (there is a 1 click without bootloaders to minimize risk)
I haven't still figured out a reliable way to flash back to Stock Froyo on my 2 captivates which ended up being bricked. I was on Cezar's 897 GB bootloaders. Tried flashing back to Froyo KB1 from here but it failed using Odin3 1.3. I got a new phone, which now has stock KB2. Does anyone know how to flash stock Froyo reliably ?
prbassplayer said:
Try flashing to stick KF1 before flashing a new rom (there is a 1 click without bootloaders to minimize risk)
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Really didn't know there was a 1 click without bootloaders. Time to hit up the search!
vdubguy said:
Well turns out going from Cog5b2 to OBSSESSION puts you in a bootloop. Reflashing Cog I guess for now.
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I read someone have similar issue and I was also on cog5b2 and followed their instructions (which I'm going to paraphrase now) and worked perfectly. I'm now running Mosaic V with the KF1/i897 boot loaders...
OP on Mosaic V has link for xcal's 1.2 i9000 kernel.tar download that. Start at step 5 on that OP, use Odin 1.7 (linked as 'Files you will need' in the MV OP) to flash xcal's kernel, make sure to not auto reboot from Odin and when it's done flashing kernel, do a battery pull and then go to recovery mode, factory reset and then flash Obsession.
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vdubguy said:
Really didn't know there was a 1 click without bootloaders. Time to hit up the search!
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This is KF1 without Bootloaders
Madtowndave said:
I read someone have similar issue and I was also on cog5b2 and followed their instructions (which I'm going to paraphrase now) and worked perfectly. I'm now running Mosaic V with the KF1/i897 boot loaders...
OP on Mosaic V has link for xcal's 1.2 i9000 kernel.tar download that. Start at step 5 on that OP, use Odin 1.7 (linked as 'Files you will need' in the MV OP) to flash xcal's kernel, make sure to not auto reboot from Odin and when it's done flashing kernel, do a battery pull and then go to recovery mode, factory reset and then flash Obsession.
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Cool Thanks everyone for the help. I may try Obsession again tomorrow. Gotta hit the sheets....and up early for work.
Srikar_NBK said:
I haven't still figured out a reliable way to flash back to Stock Froyo on my 2 captivates which ended up being bricked. I was on Cezar's 897 GB bootloaders. Tried flashing back to Froyo KB1 from here but it failed using Odin3 1.3. I got a new phone, which now has stock KB2. Does anyone know how to flash stock Froyo reliably ?
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this is the recommended way to go back to stock that contains both main and secondary bootloaders http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
also this one which contains no bootloaders http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995143
CremeFraiche said:
this is the recommended way to go back to stock that contains both main and secondary bootloaders http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
also this one which contains no bootloaders http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995143
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Yes, but aren't both of them methods to go back to Eclair and not Froyo ? My earlier Cappy got bricked bcoz I tried stocking back to Eclair, when it came with Froyo.
My question is how do you flash custom rom while on kf1 boots? Running cog 5 beta 2 with cwm4. Can I flash roms like I did before via cwm, even though I'm on cwm4, or should I flash a kernel with cwm 2 or cwm3 first, than flash rom thru that?. This question is for both froyo and GB/i9000 roms
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Cdub3 said:
My question is how do you flash custom rom while on kf1 boots? Running cog 5 beta 2 with cwm4. Can I flash roms like I did before via cwm, even though I'm on cwm4, or should I flash a kernel with cwm 2 or cwm3 first, than flash rom thru that?. This question is for both froyo and GB/i9000 roms
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Well most roms have a Kernel that they recommend. Best I can figure if you want to flash a froyo rom go back down to stock eclair with one click (don't flash bootloaders) and flash rom of your choice. For GB just flash stock KF1 and flash gb rom? That's just me guessing though.
prbassplayer said:
Well most roms have a Kernel that they recommend. Best I can figure if you want to flash a froyo rom go back down to stock eclair with one click (don't flash bootloaders) and flash rom of your choice. For GB just flash stock KF1 and flash gb rom? That's just me guessing though.
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Oneclick eclair contains bootloaders.
To simplify my question, are rom flashes compatible with cwm4, or do I need cwm2/or 3 to flash roms, whether froyo/GB?
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Cdub3 said:
Oneclick eclair contains bootloaders.
To simplify my question, are rom flashes compatible with cwm4, or do I need cwm2/or 3 to flash roms, whether froyo/GB?
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JF6 is eclair is it not? If it is here is a JF6 odin with out bootloaders. If Jf6 is Froyo well my mistake. Still 2.2 stock would still work i think. Point is cmw version wont matter if you go back to stock and flash from there, and its usually a better idea to flash to stock anyways.

Best way to get on GB 2.3.3?

I used Odin3 to flash back to stock/master clear. Man it feels so ancient!!!
Anyway, I've read a few different tutorials and just wanted to know which one do ya'll suggest is the best one to get to Gingerbread 2.3.3.
Thanks.
This seems the easiest and at least I'll be on the official I897 bootloaders...
Opinions?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129821
I found this to be the easiest/fastest way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127249&highlight=odin+kf1
AtomicFusion, Cog 5, and the one you already found are all simple "one-click" setups. They also are all I897 bootloaders.
For I9000 Bootloaders the accepted method is double flash via Odin (once for "stock" bootloaders, then once more for a CWM capable kernel/recovery) then CWM in your choice ROM.
You can use either or and the phone will boot and run on any ROM. The thing is, from ppls reports you might wanna try to keep your bootloaders aligned with your ROM base. There seems to be a few quirks but they have been minor problems ie. some "system" apps FC'ing. Using alternatives off the market can get you around those.
xThe Enforcer said:
I used Odin3 to flash back to stock/master clear. Man it feels so ancient!!!
Anyway, I've read a few different tutorials and just wanted to know which one do ya'll suggest is the best one to get to Gingerbread 2.3.3.
Thanks.
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I used the 1 click KF1 with optional fugu root (I did not use the root, i just flashed DG's Cog 5 kernel and used Cwm from there). Very simple and worked well (and i actually like i897's key combos) else u can just flash i9000's.
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Decided that I want to go with the latest Mosaic ROM.
Seems like most of the devs are still on I9000 bootloaders so should I just follow their tutorial in the OP of the Mosaic thread?
Why haven't they switched to the I897 bootloaders? I9000 more stable or something?
Thanks...
Yes use our instructions.
We haven't switched because the captivate ones bork the music player we include that has lock screen controls and who knows what other issues down the road...
Plus the I9k ones have much better button combos...
studacris said:
Yes use our instructions.
We haven't switched because the captivate ones bork the music player we include that has lock screen controls and who knows what other issues down the road...
Plus the I9k ones have much better button combos...
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Yeah, I was just searching the Mosaic thread and saw about the music player.
I just flashed to 2.3.3 with the I9000 bootloaders so I'm good to go now... Does the old Firefly theme work with the latest Mosaic? Thanks Studacris
Just read that the Firefly theme should work... Woohoo!
We have firefly theme for MVI so no need to worry about it, Once u are done with the flashing just check the OTA on the phone.
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(and i actually like i897's key combos)
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What are the new GB BL i897 combo's?
They aren't any different than before.
Only the I9k boots have different combos.
rkkaranrk said:
We have firefly theme for MVI so no need to worry about it, Once u are done with the flashing just check the OTA on the phone.
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Thanks. I went on the OTA app and it keeps saying, download unsuccessful... Hmn...
Palmetto_X said:
What are the new GB BL i897 combo's?
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Like studacris said I897 key combos don't change just the I9000's. I9000's Recovery and down load is either Vol down+power or Vol up+power. I897's is Vol up down+power for recovery and Vol up down+usb for download mode. But its personal preference.

Back to stock question

Wierd problem, I am having issues with the speaker on my captivate, sometimes its so quite you cant even hear it and other times its just fine I am assuming its a hardware issue and i am planning on sending it in on warranty before my year is up. So i am currently running gingerbread, I know the 3 button fix is a big nono but I have ran it tons of times before when on froyo. So my phone is capable of going back to stock jf6, should I use the Odin one click my phone is a 1010 build. Or is there just some way to flash the froyo/eclair bootloaders like the gb one click.
Running Dlevs 5.0, and latest talon kernel, modem JL2
if your phone will accept jf6 odin one click it, why flash just the bootloaders and then a stock package wehn you can do it all in one go?
studacris said:
if your phone will accept jf6 odin one click it, why flash just the bootloaders and then a stock package wehn you can do it all in one go?
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Yeah that's what I was thinking to I have never one clicked this phone before I just wanted a second opinion thanks.
Running Dlevs 5.0, and latest talon kernel, modem JL2

Best way to do this? Bootloaders...

I'm pretty confident at modding my phone, and have basically done everything that doesn't involve messing with odin or bootloaders. However, I would like to upgrade to GB bootloaders, mainly for features in the new glitch kernel (and perhaps better performance in some way). And yes, I have searched and read many threads on this, but there are so many different options and many things seem irrelevant. I am on CM7 Glitch v13, and I'm not sure what the best path is.
First of all, what stock firmware do I go to? There are so many, and I would assume something 2.3.x. But which? And I would assume with bootloaders? Once I get there, I would be able to figure out getting CWM. I think. But I'm mainly concerned about which stock firmware to pick. Thanks!
Look for the kf1 one-click. Can't get any easier.
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mbc663 said:
Look for the kf1 one-click. Can't get any easier.
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Ummm yes it can
You can flash the bootloaders only right over top cm7.
studacris said:
Ummm yes it can
You can flash the bootloaders only right over top cm7.
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I've never had any luck trying that. Usually end up bootlooping.
mrhaley30705 said:
I've never had any luck trying that. Usually end up bootlooping.
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I heard that that's what happens. By usually, do you mean it can sometimes work? How would you recover
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korockinout13 said:
I heard that that's what happens. By usually, do you mean it can sometimes work? How would you recover
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Put phone in dl mode and flash stock. Just back everything up before you start. Some have reported that it's worked for them, but most havesended up looping. I personally have looped the last time
I tried it.
Yahh flashing BL while on a MTD partitioned ROM will not work, have to be on BML(STOCK ROM)
b-eock said:
Yahh flashing BL while on a MTD partitioned ROM will not work, have to be on BML(STOCK ROM)
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Yeah that's what I thought. I saw your posts in the ICS thread. Thanks
EDIT: But wait, do I need to go back to stock froyo first or can I go straight on to KF1?
I would go to froyo first, then the kf1. Just to be safe, and you ALWAYS want to be as safe as possible with bootloaders.
mrhaley30705 said:
I would go to froyo first, then the kf1. Just to be safe, and you ALWAYS want to be as safe as possible with bootloaders.
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I did that, but I never went to kf1. I followed some other guide that installed speedmod and GB bootloaders, and am now back on CM7 after flashing froyo again. That was much easier than I expected.
NOW: Crap, no matter what I do, I can't get signal. I get no SIM passcode prompt, and my imei is unknown. What now?
NOW: Well it works on stock Froyo, but no connection on CM7

[Q] Can I use Himdall to go from ICS to KK4?

This may seem like it's been asked before, but I haven't really seen a clear answer. I am currently on ICSSGS 4.3 and I want to go back to GB until the "encryption unsuccessful - reset android" bug gets ironed out. My question is do I need to reflash the bootloaders? My gut tells me no considering I came to ICS from KK4, but I'd rather check with the xda community first.
I've used the Himdall KK4 one-click while on GB, could I use it again to go from ICS to GB. Bootloaders, no bootloaders? Should I use Odin and select to re-partition?
I've seen conflicting answers in regards to re-flashing bootloaders. I know re-flashing BL can also hard-brick the phone. Makes me nervous playing with BL.
The last bootloaders I flashed were from att, I flashed them when I went to GB.
Any input is welcome.
As long as you currently have GB bootloaders, there shouldn't be a need for you to reflash them coming back to Gingerbread.
I have personally used a Heimdall one-click to go from an ICS build (Fusion) back to stock KH3 without bootloaders, and it worked just fine.
Short answer
is yes. Actually I couldn't use CWM GB ROM zip due to YAFFS2 filesystem of ICS. So Heimdall was the only way to go.
Apex or SauromKK4 are good candidates. After Heimdall you can CWM flash any GB ROM.
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As long as you currently have GB bootloaders, there shouldn't be a need for you to reflash them coming back to Gingerbread.
I have personally used a Heimdall one-click to go from an ICS build (Fusion) back to stock KH3 without bootloaders, and it worked just fine.
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Thanks jmtheiss for the quick reply. That's what I thought, but I wanted to double check. I'd rather ask now than have to deal with a headache later.
I assuming that flashing ICS over a GB rom didn't change my bootloaders and I wont have any problems.
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is yes. Actually I couldn't use CWM GB ROM zip due to YAFFS2 filesystem of ICS. So Heimdall was the only way to go.
Apex or SauromKK4 are good candidates. After Heimdall you can CWM flash any GB ROM.
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Thanks for the input, bravomail. I remember reading about the file system difference between ICS and GB, I kind of figured CWM was out of the question. I'll charge to 100% and give it a shot in a bit. Thanks again for the reply.
Just successfully flashed back to stock KK4 via the Himdall one-click. Worked great. Thanks to brovomail and jmtheiss for the input, much appreciated.

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