Wierd problem, I am having issues with the speaker on my captivate, sometimes its so quite you cant even hear it and other times its just fine I am assuming its a hardware issue and i am planning on sending it in on warranty before my year is up. So i am currently running gingerbread, I know the 3 button fix is a big nono but I have ran it tons of times before when on froyo. So my phone is capable of going back to stock jf6, should I use the Odin one click my phone is a 1010 build. Or is there just some way to flash the froyo/eclair bootloaders like the gb one click.
Running Dlevs 5.0, and latest talon kernel, modem JL2
if your phone will accept jf6 odin one click it, why flash just the bootloaders and then a stock package wehn you can do it all in one go?
studacris said:
if your phone will accept jf6 odin one click it, why flash just the bootloaders and then a stock package wehn you can do it all in one go?
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Yeah that's what I was thinking to I have never one clicked this phone before I just wanted a second opinion thanks.
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So i just want to be sure if I was reading the threads right, if we flash to GB we CANT flash back to stock eclair or can we?
rabbivj said:
So i just want to be sure if I was reading the threads right, if we flash to GB we CANT flash back to stock eclair or can we?
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it depends on the build number and history of the phone.
if you have successfully used odin oneclick jf6 or maybe ji6 froyo first try without needing a 3button fix or reflashing because of a soft brick you can use a oneclick odin to flash back to stock
if you needed 3 button fix you will need to use adb or a jig after odin oneclick to get download mode and flash the 3-button fix version.. do this only after using odin one click! 3button fix is only secondary bootloader! a mismatch will beak the phone!
if you have a 1010 build or greater there is a major risk because odin jf6 2.1 oneclick has a history of bricking these phones. some report success, some report that the phone goes into the phone+computer screen but is recoverable with a jig, some report that the phone is hard bricked.
i have a 1007 phone that never needed a 3-button fix. and on this phone i was able to use the gingerbread bootloaders on 2.1 and 2.2 roms without issue. unfortunately this was not the case for another member i talked to over pm who has a 1010 phone. his phone booted but the bootloaders did not give him 3 button capabilities on 2.1 untill after the phone was rooted and he used rom manager to tell the phone to reboot into recovery once. after that the combos worked. this was very odd, im not sure what to make of that, but trying to get the phone recovered ultimately ended in a bricked phone.
if you have a 1010 it might maybe be posible to use ji6 froyo (that old beta we all used for a while) odin oneclick but i am unsure if it flashes both bootloaders. if i get time tomorrow i might flash back to stock then to ji6 just out of curiousity to see if it has boot.bin. there is no way to break down the .exe and check that i know of.
that said icezar is/will be working on an odin package for odin 1.7 to flash a good combo of bootloaders that will give 3 button fix on any captivate.
Dani897 said:
it depends on the build number and history of the phone.
if you have successfully used odin oneclick jf6 or maybe ji6 froyo first try without needing a 3button fix or reflashing because of a soft brick you can use a oneclick odin to flash back to stock
if you needed 3 button fix you will need to use adb or a jig after odin oneclick to get download mode and flash the 3-button fix version.. do this only after using odin one click! 3button fix is only secondary bootloader! a mismatch will beak the phone!
if you have a 1010 build or greater there is a major risk because odin jf6 2.1 oneclick has a history of bricking these phones. some report success, some report that the phone goes into the phone+computer screen but is recoverable with a jig, some report that the phone is hard bricked.
if you have a 1010 it might maybe be posible to use ji6 froyo (that old beta we all used for a while) odin oneclick but i am unsure if it flashes both bootloaders. if i get time tomorrow i might flash back to stock then to ji6 just out of curiousity of if it has boot.bin. there is no way to break down the file and check that i know of.
that said icezar is/will be working on an odin package for odin 1.7 to flash a good combo of bootloaders that will give 3 button fix on any captivate.
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I have build 1006, i got my cappy the day it got released...and i have used odin 1click in the past.
you should be good to go.
How do you know what the build number is?
MaxRabbit said:
How do you know what the build number is?
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Under the battery.
have you ever used odin 1 click before? If so and didn't have a problem, no matter what build number, you won't all of a sudden have one with it.
I have 3 1010+ cappys and I'm lucky enough that ALL of them work fine with 1 click...
How much different is odin 1 click compared to odin3?
The only Odin I have ever used is the one that can be downloaded from the official serendipity page.
I've used many 2.2 roms and successfully flashed back to stock, will going to 2.3 be and back be that much different for me?
That is the only thing I'm skeptical about.
Odin 1 click contains both bootloaders and stock eclair rom/kernel/modem. It has a start button, and a master clear button and that's it.
That will replace the gingerbread bootloaders
it can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Odin 3 has more options and can be used to flash all kinds of stuff. Idk what firmware package you are using with odin 3 but if the .tar contains BOTH boot.bin AND sbl.bin it will flash both bootloaders as well and your good to go, if it doesn't have EITHER, then the gb bootloaders you are on are backward compatible and your good to go.
If it only contains ONE of the 2 it will brick your phone. No question about it.
here is a package for odin 3 that contains NO bootloaders http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995143
my fone has 1010 under the battery, ive used odin one click several times never had a problem with it. but i really want to try gingerbread. now im not sure if it will brick or not. can someone explain what is the 3 button combo, my fone has always had it. did some fones not have the ability to go into recovery or download mode?
I said already, if you have used one click before your fine, you would know the first time if there was a problem with the build number and one click. I've been to gb back to eclair just to test. All 3 1010+ phones are good.
ok thx studacris, just want to be as sure as possible before i give it a try, cant afford to replace fone if i jack it all up. but, i am pretty sure i can handle this with all the flashing and reflashing and stock and cwm and back that ive done on this and an old xperia x10. however have only used oneclick and not odin 1.7 so this will be a leaning experience for me. will post my results later thx.
So I was on a froyo rom and flashed to a gb. All was working well for a week. I ran into an issue and flashed (Odin3 one click 1.7) back to my previous froyo set=up. The gb rom I was using has been fixed and I want to go back to it again. Is it ok just to cwm the gb rom or do I need to go through the whole process of flashing bootloaders etc...
odin one click flashes eclair/froyo bootloaders. yes you will have to flash gingerbread bootloaders again. don't be afraid, how many times have you used odin one click? that has the exact same risk involved when flashing to gingerbread. repeat flashing gingerbread bootloaders is the exact same risk as odin one click.
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odin one click flashes eclair/froyo bootloaders. yes you will have to flash gingerbread bootloaders again. don't be afraid, how many times have you used odin one click? that has the exact same risk involved when flashing to gingerbread. repeat flashing gingerbread bootloaders is the exact same risk as odin one click.
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Hmmm interesting, I thought you couldn't do it ONLY if you used full Odin.
For future reference, you can go back to froyo/eclair roms and still use the gb bootloaders. They are backward compatible. If you want to flash jf6 just to start from stock, cezar has a safer method for Odin. It flashes JF6 rom, but not the bootloaders. You can find it in Development, it has its own thread and he's also put it in the op for Continuum v5.
There is one draw back. You can't flash Cognition or you'll brick your phone. Cog uses a secondary bootloader.
Hey guys I hard bricked my captivate and need help evaluating what I did wrong so I can prevent it from happening in the future. I just received the device in the mail (it was a replacement device) and tried to use odin one click JF6 to flash it to eclair. I've done this process 100's of time with my previous captivate but with my new one I saw that it was hanging at sbl.bin and my device turned off. I unplugged the usb, did a battery pull, and used my jig and the phone went into download. PHEW... Thinking that my JF6 odin was corrupt or something I decided to use Odin One click JI6 and the odin hung again but this time I wasn't so lucky. The phone wasn't showing any thing and the jig was infective. The phone hard bricked. My question is how did I brick it and why did it hang when I tried odin one click,. (Odin one click has always worked flawlessly for me in the past). Also are froyo and eclair bootloaders the same? If were to flash JF6 2.1 eclair using odin3 over Rogers Froyo should that work?l (BTW my device is 10.11 build)
edit: I understand that odin one click always has a risk involved because your flashing boot loaders but I just want to distinguish whether it was just an unlucky odin flash or something to do with the build number. Thanks
thats a good question. As far as I know Froyo and Eclair have the same bootloaders, but as far as the Odin problem- im sorry I have no idea.
A lot of people on here have bricked their captivates by using OneClick Odin. What happened was that your replacement captivate came with stock froyo which does not work with OneClickOdin. You were on the right track by going to stock JF6. Not sure why it failed for you but if you would have tried it again I'm betting money it would have successfully flashed. Sorry to hear about your troubles.
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A lot of people on here have bricked their captivates by using OneClick Odin. What happened was that your replacement captivate came with stock froyo which does not work with OneClickOdin. You were on the right track by going to stock JF6. Not sure why it failed for you but if you would have tried it again I'm betting money it would have successfully flashed. Sorry to hear about your troubles.
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Lol.. now I'm even more confused. You start out by saying the reason it wont work is because his phone came with stock froyo...then you finish by saying your on the right track, it should have worked. ..wtf??
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Coreym said:
Lol.. now I'm even more confused. You start out by saying the reason it wont work is because his phone came with stock froyo...then you finish by saying your on the right track, it should have worked. ..wtf??
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Yes search for other threads about oneclick NOT being cooperative with newer model captivate sthat came with stock froyo. I said he was on the right track because the correct method to go back to stock is JF6. Which can be found in Icezar1's continuum thread which requires odin 1.3, the pda file, etc. If he would have simply tried the JF6 process again it would have completed rather than using 1 click odin and messing up everything. Read the second post of this thread where ZELENDEL says that newer captivates with froyo don't work with oneclick
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093926
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Yes search for other threads about oneclick NOT being cooperative with newer model captivate sthat came with stock froyo. I said he was on the right track because the correct method to go back to stock is JF6. Which can be found in Icezar1's continuum thread which requires odin 1.3, the pda file, etc. If he would have simply tried the JF6 process again it would have completed rather than using 1 click odin and messing up everything. Read the second post of this thread where ZELENDEL says that newer captivates with froyo don't work with oneclick
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093926
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First of all JF6 is NOT a "method" of going back to stock. JF6 is stock firmware. And I could be wrong but I thought icezars program gave you
Stock firmware 'JI6'? I'm not next to my computer so I do t really know off the top of my head.
*EDIT* Your right, icezars1 program is JF6 firmware. However it is only given as an alternative. Even states in his OP the only reason why Odin3 Oneclickdownload would not work would be because of an unreliable USB driver. So this is indeed a safer way to get back to stock JF6. Odin3 one click should work too. It's unfortunate that it doesn't "always" work.
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First of all JF6 is NOT a "method" of going back to stock. JF6 is stock firmware. And I could be wrong but I thought icezars program gave you
Stock firmware 'JI6'? I'm not next to my computer so I do t really know off the top of my head.
*EDIT* Your right, icezars1 program is JF6 firmware. However it is only given as an alternative. Even states in his OP the only reason why Odin3 Oneclickdownload would not work would be because of an unreliable USB driver. So this is indeed a safer way to get back to stock JF6. Odin3 one click should work too. It's unfortunate that it doesn't "always" work.
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I'm sure you understood what I meant when I said JF6. It is certainly a rom and the process mentioned in Icezar's thread is one of the preferred methods of downgrading a newer model captivate that is on stock froyo. Let's hope that we have answered and clarified all questions for the OP.
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I'm sure you understood what I meant when I said JF6. It is certainly a rom and the process mentioned in Icezar's thread is one of the preferred methods of downgrading a newer model captivate that is on stock froyo. Let's hope that we have answered and clarified all questions for the OP.
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i actually didn't understand what you meant. You make 2 refrencses to using JF6 as a method. First you said the correct method to go back to stock is "JF6", then you said the JF6 process. Again...both refrences to a single JF6 method, when that is not the case. Both methods used to get back to JF6 stock firmware use Odin. One is a one click program, the other a manual flash using .tar.md5 file.
Duuhdave, if im on stock froyo (im in canada btw, so rogers) and use cezars method of flashing stock firmware through full blown odin, should I be flashing jf6(i897 2.1) or rogers 2.1? I ask this because ussualy they want you to on jf6 before flashing.
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As far as flashing to stock with Odin 1click from stock Froyo, it has worked fine for me MANY times. Bricking using the odin 1click may be related to build number. I went from a 1007 (with stock 2.1) to a warranty repacement 1008 with froyo stock. I flashed 2.1 without a problem, and have several other times.
Using Odin 3 one-click, and icezar1's stock rom will both take you to I-897 AT&T stock JF6. If you want to return to Rogers stock 2.1 without flashing bootloaders, use TRusselo's Rogers Captivate Stock ROMS no ATT logo!.
Thanks for the help!
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its the build number that caused it
More than likely it was something about the phone having stock froyo with the 3e recovery. I have never had the issue with any of my 2 captivates 1007's and wife's 1010 build but they came with stock eclair. I know many people have had issues due to the stock froyo with 3e recovery as why there is a modded 3e recovery how to somewhere on this forum. Since he laready had froyo boot loaders it has nothing to do with that, and either was a fubar flash due to 3e recovery, bad USB cable, etc that messed things up.
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Hello, I am currently on Miui but I want to flash official Rogers 2.3.3 to get Rogers bootloaders, as i hate flashing AT&T stuff when I don't have an AT&T phone. What is the safest way to return to either 2.1 or 2.2? I have tried returning to stock from an i9000 based rom a long time ago, and ended up bricking so I'm very careful and kinda scared to do it again since I haven't flashed in a while lol I do have a jig now in case things get hairy, but I'd rather be safe then sorry. I do have Heimdall 1.3.0 and a Rogers 2.2 package with everything included, should i just use that?
Use the Rogers package and flash. You don't really have a choice since to go back from CM7 or MIUI you need to repartition your phone.
use the stock roms in my signature. herehttp://bit.ly/eqg4W2
because your are coming from miui / cm7 it is recomended to flash the att one click first then the rogers stock roms
i was on miui for 3 hours yesterday. i HATED it. buggy and iphone phanboy bs.
but i did a nandroid backup before flashing miui, that i restored after by flashing ATT one click, rogers 2.2, talon kernel, then my nandroid backup.
Last time I tried to get off the i9000 rom's I used the at&t one click, and it bricked my phone, it would show an at&t screen for a few seconds and then it would shut off and keep doing that, but I had no download mode or anything, the Heimdall package has the bootloaders and everything in it, isn't it safe just to use that?
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ive never used heimdall never needed to.
if you had no download mode last time then how is it working now?
it works. everyone has done it. i did it twice yesterday.
ATT one click, 2.2 rogers with odin, flash custom kernel with odin, boot into kernels built in CWM, flash new rom. done,.
Well i ended up making my own jig to get it into download mode and then tried to flash to stock, and my phone's screen turned green, and stayed like that for a while, so I unplugged, pulled the battery, tried it again and it was hardbricked, as in the jig didn't work and nothing else did either, so I sent it into rogers for repair. Plus my phone is a 1010 model, which is why it doesn't play well if the AT&T one click. I don't want to use that. Why must i use odin? does Heimdall not do the exact same thing?
I'm planning on going from JVS to KH3 or KI2 but really don't feel like ODIN'ing back to stock. I know issues could arise if I just flash the i897 Rom over JVS due to bootloaders.
Any way to do this and get the Captivate GB bootloader without wiping with ODIN?
The only confirmed issue I've seen is that the I897 GB Bootloaders break the I9000 Music player. You should be fine just flashing whatever ROM with your current Bootloaders just do the typical clearings/wipes. Might have issues with the music player but that's easily fixed.
I did the same thing you're hoping to do, but all I did was ODIN the I897 BLs. No back to stock, nothing, just the BLs. I did it with the Pinnacle or Apex flasher package (can't remember which one right now). Worked like a charm.
This is Just the I897 GB bootloaders
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I did the same thing you're hoping to do, but all I did was ODIN the I897 BLs. No back to stock, nothing, just the BLs. I did it with the Pinnacle or Apex flasher package (can't remember which one right now). Worked like a charm.
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Fix you flash the BL prior to the new ROM or after?
Thanks for the replies!
I don't think my phone gets along with JVS so well...
Either way is fine, before or after.
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Fix you flash the BL prior to the new ROM or after?
Thanks for the replies!
I don't think my phone gets along with JVS so well...
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Either way is fine, before or after.
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Agree with studacris—order doesn't matter. My experience was flashing the I897 BLs while still on Apex, then waited for the Pinnacle 1.3 update and flashed the ROM.