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Thank You All
I took the plunge this morning and decided to jump in with both feet,and am now running the custom rom Cyanogen 6.0 RC-1 recommended here. This is a blast,and nowhere as difficult as what I thought it would be (believe me though..I was sweating bullets when I hit enter )
Without all the good information here I don't think I would have ever been able to do this myself.
I don't know what to do next,but it seems like everything,including my [email protected]& red haze on my camera is gone too...I am real happy camper now
OK guys..what to do next now. What should I download and install on here since it's a clean slate.
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Mac11700 said:
I don't know what to do next,but it seems like everything,including my [email protected]& red haze on my camera is gone too...I am real happy camper now
OK guys..what to do next now. What should I download and install on here since it's a clean slate.
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Glad we could help -- that's why we're here
Well, don't feel like you NEED to do anything next. But I'll offer a couple general suggestions.
1) Browse around the Themes and Apps section. There are lots of cool themes, apps, mods, etc. that you could add that provide even further customization and additional functionality. Also consider browsing around the Development forum to see if you might like to try any of the other ROMs out for a bit.
2) Think of what else do YOU want your phone to be able to do? Think of some things you'd like to see out of your phone. Then start searching around here, or in the Market, and see if such an app/mod already exists or if someone here is working on it.
Basically, you don't NEED to do anything next, but just know that you can do plenty of exploring here for all kinds of stuff, and you now have the ability to customize further.
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Glad we could help -- that's why we're here
Well, don't feel like you NEED to do anything next. But I'll offer a couple general suggestions.
1) Browse around the Themes and Apps section. There are lots of cool themes, apps, mods, etc. that you could add that provide even further customization and additional functionality. Also consider browsing around the Development forum to see if you might like to try any of the other ROMs out for a bit.
2) Think of what else do YOU want your phone to be able to do? Think of some things you'd like to see out of your phone. Then start searching around here, or in the Market, and see if such an app/mod already exists or if someone here is working on it.
Basically, you don't NEED to do anything next, but just know that you can do plenty of exploring here for all kinds of stuff, and you now have the ability to customize further.
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Thanks..appreciate the advise.
I did manage to download the gapps and flashed that (starting to feel pretty good ) and will check out what you suggested as well. I can't get over how much faster this phone is now and love the os typewriter over the stock one. I only made 20 mistakes with it first time typing on it instead of 200 I usually do with the stock one
I can't wait to show this puppy off tonight at work to the Evo boys...I'm going to have a nice laugh back at them when they see it now,since a bunch of them were putting my "putzy" little Hero down last night. That really was one hell of a motivating factor for me to do this BTW I would love to get that matrix type start up screen on this today...if I can keep me eyes open long enough..(graveyard shift) especially if it will work right,that aught to blow their little minds ehh..
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Mac11700 said:
Thanks..appreciate the advise.
I did manage to download the gapps and flashed that (starting to feel pretty good ) and will check out what you suggested as well. I can't get over how much faster this phone is now and love the os typewriter over the stock one. I only made 20 mistakes with it first time typing on it instead of 200 I usually do with the stock one
I can't wait to show this puppy off tonight at work to the Evo boys...I'm going to have a nice laugh back at them when they see it now,since a bunch of them were putting my "putzy" little Hero down last night. That really was one hell of a motivating factor for me to do this BTW I would love to get that matrix type start up screen on this today...if I can keep me eyes open long enough..(graveyard shift) especially if it will work right,that aught to blow their little minds ehh..
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Couple easy things would be to download a new ADW Launcher theme (just type that into the market search box) and then you can look at other themes. BlackMod and Dark envy are my favorites.
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Couple easy things would be to download a new ADW Launcher theme (just type that into the market search box) and then you can look at other themes. BlackMod and Dark envy are my favorites.
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Thanks...I'll check them out
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Welcome to the Dark Side.....bwahahah.
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Welcome to the Dark Side.....bwahahah.
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Looks like I'll be doing 3 more hero's for my wife and 2 son's.They all want theirs done now OMG what have I done.....
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which are you using?
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which are you using?
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Cyanogen 6.0 RC-1
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How long did it take? Have you tried it with Bluetooth?
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How long did it take? Have you tried it with Bluetooth?
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Well..since it was my very first time doing any of this,about 1-1/2 -2 hours actually doing it...but about a week of reading and trying to understand it
I still don't have it down pat and am not 100% comfortable doing any of it,but if your wanting to try it sooner or later your going to have to jump in and get your feet wet too..
Yes..the Blue tooth works with my older Platronic's headset very well. That's as much as I have done with it. I don't have any of the external speakers or use it through any radio in the car..sorry.
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There's nothing to really do next because everything is all user preference. I would suggest you download Titanium Backup from the market and backup all your apps+data so you don't lose anything if something goes wrong. Also, do nandroid backups prior to make modifications to your phone. What I did when I first started was just read, read, and read. There's so much to do and the members of XDA are very supportive. Welcome to our world. LOL
Step by step?
So for a newbie, can you post the step-by-step things you did to root and update your phone?
Like people say do nandroid, and I have not a clue where to get that.
Thanks,
Jim
jarome1 said:
So for a newbie, can you post the step-by-step things you did to root and update your phone?
Like people say do nandroid, and I have not a clue where to get that.
Thanks,
Jim
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The search feature and Google are really a good tools to use here and on the web.You will be pleasantly surprised at all of the information you can come up with.
Now..a step by step guide to rooting my phone..No..like I said..I am still not 100% comfortable doing this yet,and I just don't feel I am qualified enough to explain the process to you..sorry
I will give you some good advise though..RESEARCH RESEARCH..and then RESEARCH what you are wanting to do to your phone..before you do anything at all. I spent a whole bunch of hours reading everything from here and elsewhere just trying to get a good idea of what to do before doing anything..and you should too.
1) Figure out what exactly you want from your phone and decide then before you do anything.
2) Take a look at all of the different Rom's that are available and what each offer you, and while your looking at them and reading about them you should be looking at all of the issues each have and decide if you can live with them before you do anything.
3) Use the search feature here and Google. You'll have hundreds of hours of reading at your finger tips to digest. Sure..you'll have more questions then answers right off the bat,but keeping researching and you will most likely find enough stuff to help you understand the process enough to jump in eventually.
It really isn't difficult to root you phone anymore nor is it difficult to do a nandroid back up but you need to put forth some effort to have a basic understanding of what you are wanting to do and what all the terminology means.. Sorry if this sounds condescending to you, I'm not trying to be in any way, but this is just some friendly advise from one newbie to another.
4) Once you got a good idea of what you would like to try,and a basic idea of what the terminology means, then get comfortable hooking your phone up to the computer and see what happens on it.Look up here or elsewhere what it means to do a nandroid back up..and also backing up a sd card to your computer..Look at what it means to wipe the data and making a partition on your sd card. Once your familiar with all of this...then go look at the universal 1 click method to root your phone and then also look at the guide to rooting your phone via the a terminal that is posted on this forum and what has been said about both of them. See what your comfortable with. Now once you done all of this.. go look the instructions each of the chef's give with their Roms, and see if it starts making sense to you or not. You will need to follow these instructions word for word to make it work right the first time you try this....same for using the long way to root via a terminal too..
If you do your homework and still can't figure out what it all means..then in all reality you really shouldn't try it..at least not till you at least understand it..This is how I did it..and my suggestion to you is to do the same. I know the terminology is strange and it may seem overwhelming at first..but if you spend enough time researching it,it will help you in the long run.
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Well said, Mac.
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You are now on the slippery slope of obsessive tweaking!
I was just like you...sweating over taking the plunge. But once I put my toes in the water, it was all in all the way!
I started with CM6 RC1...after a couple weeks, I flashed CM nightly 9/7 and saw improvement. Just yesterday I flashed Darc's #14 kernel. AWESOME... more speed....more zippiness. I LOVE my Hero
Don't load up a bunch of crap. You don't need task killers and such. I did pop #2 for SetCPU and run my Hero very nicely at 729mhz. Can you say "zing"?
Enjoy your phone, and say "Take that, Sprint!"
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So for a newbie, can you post the step-by-step things you did to root and update your phone?
Like people say do nandroid, and I have not a clue where to get that.
Thanks,
Jim
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This is what I used to get started...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
As of CyanogenMod 6.1 this is built in. As long as you're using RC1 or above you don't need this. If you want to overclock stock 2.2 you need to use BlaY0's latest kernel
Everything is the quote below is there for history. If I had control of the second post I'd put it there... Over the next few days I'll write a bit about overclocking on the newer ROMs (BlaY0's ROM, post CM 6.1 ROMs). Essentially, you do not need to flash a new kernel to overclock on those, they have it built in. All that has changed is that you need to use scripts or SetCPU (or similar) to boost the CPU speed on boot. BlaY0's ROM will got to 806, CM will go to 864.
Yeah, that's right. Nice little guide coming right up! Oh, why have I made this? Well, despite there being a couple of threads already talking about overclocking there is no real "guide". If there is, I'm sorry. You're now twice as likely to find a guide though...
Credits:
Kyosa - for being the first to overclock the HTC Legend
Dumfuq - for making the kernels I link to.
Anyone who's ever helped either of those two to do what they did
BlaY0 - for pointing out the bits in blue
And, of course, you guys; for owning the HTC Legend.
Please read the whole post, as well as the whole thread. Loads of useful information, that should answer most of your questions. Also: read this post carefully
What is overclocking?
Making the CPU of your phone go faster than HTC intended. If you don't understand this, or it scares you, STOP! Just back away from the thread slowly, and don't worry about it.
Why would you want to overclock?
Well, there only one real reason: to make the phone go faster. But there is debate on how much impact this actually has. Yes, benchmarks are improved, but benchmarks very rarely translate into real world performance.
What are the consequences?
I'm gonna focus on the negative ones here, because they are more important. The battery life will become worse, you're making the hardware work harder than it was designed to, it's gonna need more electricity. The CPU could also be damaged. It's known by some as a burnout. If you push the CPU too hard it can just overheat, and die. Never to return. What you might call a permanent brick, a very expensive paperweight, a window breaker, a tennis ball or just a projectile for 3 man slingshots. That last one is great fun by the way. So, be careful and start with low frequencies
Why can some phones be overclocked more than others?
Good question. All chipsets are different, this is a well known and inherent flaw in the way that silicone microprocessors (what makes all your phones, computers, games consoles and microwave ovens work) are made. Some just can just go faster. Get used to it.
Enough talk, how do I do it?
Cleverly.
Nah, only joking. You're gonna need to download a new kernel. What's a kernel I hear you ask. Well, my little minion, it's only the most important part of the Android (and any other OS) system there is.
So, go ahead click here, then come back and read the rest of these instructions.
In the post I just linked to: scroll down to the bottom of the first post, and click on the link under "legend source based" in the v3.5 section. That will take you to a mediafire page, where you can choose which kernel to use. I would strongly advise going for either the 768 or the 787. (Sidenote: the kernels are named thus: ocXXX-v3.5-legend-cm-2.6.29-signed.zip, where XXX is a number. That number refers to the max clock speed) You now have a kernel, in .zip format, that you need to copy to the root of your SD card. Don't rename it.
Copied? Good, let's move on:
So, on you phone go ahead and open up ROM manager, then tap "Install ROM from SD Card". Then navigate to, and tap on the "ocXXX-v3.5-legend-cm-2.6.29-signed.zip" file you just copied across, and a menu will pop up: ROM Pre-installation". Make sure "Backup existing ROM" is checked, and that "Wipe data and cache" is unchecked. Then tap OK. Your phone will reboot, install the OC kernel, then boot back up into normal Android. Your phone is now overclocked. Sorted. Oh, I almost forgot. Well, I did forget actually, this is an edit. You only need to back up when you go from no overclock to overclock. That way you have a copy of the original kernel. Which is a good thing...
Note: Yes, well noticed. The links to the OC kernel are in the myTouch 3g Slide forum. Don't worry about it, it works perfectly on our Legend.
More info
BOOM! That's right, more information coming right up!
SetCPU, what is it, what does it do?
Well, it's an app. You can find it on the Android market, it's also kicking around on XDA somewhere...(thanks coolbho3000) What it does is control your CPU speed, without it the phone just does what it thinks is best; which is exactly right in most cases. Using it you can overclock without a noticeable impact on overall battery life. Neat, eh?
Yeah, it's neat. But how do I use it?
Well, go check this out. But you basically choose the min and the max frequency, then choose a frequency governor. In the kernels I linked to "interactive" is best, for many many reasons, otherwise ondemand is often good. I can't make how to use it any clearer than the site I just linked to, so go read it. Twice. Also, with these overclock kernels disabling perflock is not needed.
I'm stuck in a boot loop, help!
This is another option, cheers pjgodd: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9738369&postcount=83
If you're feeling cool, or advanced, issue "adb reboot bootloader", then skip over to the bit in blue
Otherwise, take a couple of deep breaths and calm down. You calm? Good. Let's move on. First you need to take the battery out of your phone, wait a few seconds, and put it back in. Now, read what I have to say next carefully
Press and hold the volume down button while you press the power button. You'll get to a white screen with little Android dudes at the bottom. Ain't they sweet, riding their little skateboards. Anyhoo, what you see now is the bootloader, the pesky little thing that made rooting so hard. Within this area of your phone you need to use the volume buttons to move up and down in the menu, and the power button to select. So, wait for the list of files to appear and disappear again, click on the "RECOVERY" menu, and wait until you get to the infamous "red-exclamation-mark-in-a-red-warning-triangle-on-top-of-a-picture-of-a-phone-that-looks-nothing-like-the-one-you're-holding-and-just-screams-danger-at-you" screen. When you see this, ignore your instict and don't run for the hills. Just press and hold the volume up key while you press the power button. Ignore the error, and wait until you see a blue menu. Using the volume and power buttons navigate to, and click, "apply sdcard:update.zip" (If you weren't feeling cool or advanced, then ignore the bit in blue
Welcome, cool people. You got straight to the "red-exclamation-mark-in-a-red-warning-triangle-on-top-of-a-picture-of-a-phone-that-looks-nothing-like-the-one-you're-holding-and-just-screams-danger-at-you" screen, without the need for a battery pull. Now press and hold the volume up key while you press the power button. Ignore the error, and wait until you see a blue menu. Using the volume and power buttons navigate to, and click, "apply sdcard:update.zip"
Wait for it...
Wait for it...
BOOM! ClockworkMOD recovery. We're back in business! In these menus you need to use the optical trackball that HTC so kindly provided us, and click on "nandroid".
What's that? Your screen went black? Didn't I just tell you to use the optical trackpad? Use that for clicking too. Kicking youself now, aren't you?
So, moving swiftly on, click on the "Advanced Restore" menu, and choose a backup (you know, the one I told you to make earlier) to restore from. If you only have one then your choice is simple, if you have 2 or more you need to use the most recent one (duh). They're named with the date and time of the backup: "YYYY-MM-DD.HH.MM.SS". From the most recent backup, restore the "boot" and "system" backups, then press the back button a few times and select "reboot system now"
What caused the bootloop?
Well, like I said earlier, some phones don't overclock as much as others. You obviously chose an OC that was too much for your phone. Try again with a lower frequency.
What is v4? How do I use it
Hmm... I'd suggest reading up in the thread where the kernels live. The first post, and from about page 67 is all the info you need. I'll write a bit more about this in the future. This post is a nice guide though, and this is a neat idea
Further reading
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787596
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nice job dude.
In last days I tried up to 806.after all the afternoon I got the first reboot.And I noticed the reduce of battery life.
Now my Legend running at 787
Nice job m8 newbys will now most probably stop whining and start grinning
Or not
nice post ^^
GrammarFreak, please dont mind my being a little critical.
The subject does deserve a place amongst the other "How Tos" in the very first post in this forum but it needs to be handled with some degree of maturity IMO.
You must also give credit to Kyosa and dumfuq with appropriate links alongside because they were the very first ones to bring this idea to our community. Its unfortunate that Kyosa could not come back and give it a "complete" form as such.A link to the Benchmarks of various roms with oc by snakehult should also be given even though it may not have much significance.
Then again, overclocking Legend is possible with stock roms as well.
You may say that I should go ahead and do such a 'how to'.....in that case thanks for the effort. carry on....
Arghh, I knew I forgot something. Credits are on their way. Thanks for the heads up.
May I ask what you mean by "maturity"? Where am I not mature?
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Nice job m8 newbys will now most probably stop whining and start grinning
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I really hope so. Oh well, patience and they'll learn.
Excellent guide Grammar. Hopefully with this thread people will stop asking and start learning aout overclocking. Job well done an a guide well written.
Cheers mate.
It would be useful to explain how to enter clockworkmod recovery and flash another kernel in the case the phone doesn't complete the boot
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It would be useful to explain how to enter clockworkmod recovery and flash another kernel in the case the phone doesn't complete the boot
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In my opinion it isn't necessary, that are basics you have to know otherwise this howto have to start with "how i root my legend"
Btw thanks for this howto, one month earlier and i would have saved a lot of time
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In my opinion it isn't necessary, that are basics you have to know otherwise this howto have to start with "how i root my legend"
Btw thanks for this howto, one month earlier and i would have saved a lot of time
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Many people asks what to do when encountering boot loops
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okay, you are right, but in dumfuq's thread it is described that not every legend is able to run with 806 or 844 mhz...so those boot loops are signs that you have to try another frequency/kernel, aren't they?
no offense, if you tune your car for example and your engine won't start because you tuned too much you go back to defaults, don't you?
FML
I just spent half an hour writing a bit on clockworkMOD, and recovering from bootloops, and my internet died when I clicked "save". I've now regained my internet, but lost all my work. Grr... I'll rewrite it a bit later.
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okay, you are right, but in dumfuq's thread it is described that not every legend is able to run with 806 or 844 mhz...so those boot loops are signs that you have to try another frequency/kernel, aren't they?
no offense, if you tune your car for example and your engine won't start because you tuned too much you go back to defaults, don't you?
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Of course, but people need to know how to go back to defaults without using rom manager, if their system doesn't boot
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Of course, but people need to know how to go back to defaults without using rom manager, if their system doesn't boot
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I'm working on it. Check back later on today
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Check back now actually, just finished. Also, do these OC kernels work on ROMs that aren't CM based?
In the case of boot loops, from clockworkmod recovery I find way more practical to flash a different kernel with less OC (downloaded before or copied to sd from the pc). Why restore an entire backup?
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I gotta say thanks for this. The part about the optical trackpad while in recovery just made my life much easier
I gotta say thanks for this. The part about the optical trackpad while in recovery just made my life much easier
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How so?
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Also, do these OC kernels work on ROMs that aren't CM based?
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I've tested for a short time "768" and "804" kernels on stock 2.03 ROM, both seemed to work fine.
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I've tested for a short time "768" and "804" kernels on stock 2.03 ROM, both seemed to work fine.
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Cool, thanks for that. I'll update the op later on, when I'm home.
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Hello everyone, first post I'm an android noob, I love gadgets and cell phones, but am not computer savvy. I am almost ready to flash my first ROM onto my captivate, which is currently running android 2.1 update 1, OCLF v2.2+ Donate Version, autokiller, autostarts, and has touchwiz and Launcher Pro Plus (launcher pro is the default skin), but before I flash to a new ROM, I want to make sure I'm doing everything right to minimize the possibility of bricking my captivate. I think that is all the relevant information but let me know if there is anything else I should mention... I LOVE LOVE LOVE my captivate and I'm a teacher with more debt than income so I would really be quite sad if it bricks.
OK here's the rundown!
Clockwork Recovery
I don't really understand the different versions of Clockwork Recovery, but I know that I have *some* form/version of it on my captivate. I rooted using RyanZA's OCLF (MAJOR props to him; his app made me me fall in love with my phone/android in general) which I *think* made me get Clockwork Recovery, or maybe it was busybox. About a month ago I downloaded Titanium Backup, which I also *think* made me download Clockwork Recovery. Then I deleted TB about an hour later because at the time I didn't have any use for it (although I guess perhaps now I should get it back). Most recently I downloaded the "pro" or "full" or something version of ROM Manager (what a great app, I'm surprised something so essential isn't already part of android. I forked out the 5 bucks because, like RyanZA, the dev deserves the props if you can afford it, but nothing other than "free stuff" appears in the "download ROM" section, which sounded super convenient, and was supposed to come with the paid version... anyone know why this might be?), and I know for sure that I installed/downloaded/? Clockwork onto my phone through the ROM manager because I just did it like two days ago. --> OK I Just went into ROM Manager to look at it again and it says "current recovery: Clockwork Mod 2.5.1.2"
Anyway the reason I'm asking about this is because I remember reading a couple of different articles that said something like "make sure you have the right version of clockwork before you flash to a new ROM or you will brick your phone and you will never be happy and nobody will ever love you." However I might be thinking about busybox? which brings me to:
Busybox
To be honest I never even really understood what exactly busybox is but I think I read somewhere that, like clockwork, it said something like "make sure you have the right version of clockwork before you flash to a new ROM or you will brick your phone." I do not know if I have it on my phone or not, much less what version.
OCLF v2.2 Donate
So I am going to undo the lagfix, but not undo the root that came with the OCLF app that came with the app because I need it to stay rooted. Is this a problem? I switched the scheduler back to "cfq" because that was what it used to be, but I used "deadline" before I started planning the ROM flash. Fun fact: I have no clue what any of that means, but boy did it make things speedy
Which ROM?
I know this has been asked before and I know it comes down to preference, but given the information about the current state of my phone, is there a particular ROM that you would suggest? If that doesn't make sense, what I mean to say is, does anyone know if, for example, people who have at any point used a lag fix are predisposed to bricking their phone during a flash, or if people who run Clockwork Recovery can't use ROM x?
The biggest things that concern me are 1. stability 2. that the ROM is still supported 3. froyo 4. easy sync/integration with everything google (mail, maps, calendar, etc). I like a clean, elegant look and feel, but I imagine I can skin whatever ROM to my liking. I am leaning towards Cognition, simply because I seem to read that one the most often.
Thank you for any help, it is greatly appreciated
Any other advice out there or links to good guides would be great too
oh hey sorry one more thing, as long as I'm asking noob questions: I know that live wallpapers drain battery but I love the earth one with a black background, looks so damn good. Anyway does it drain the battery CONSTANTLY as long as it's the wallpaper or only when you're on the home screens and can actually see it?
thanks again guys!
Hello everyone, first post I'm an android noob, I love gadgets and cell phones, but am not computer savvy.
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Welcome! As has been said, come on in, the water's fine!
I LOVE LOVE LOVE my captivate and I'm a teacher with more debt than income so I would really be quite sad if it bricks.
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Don't be afraid of your phone. Just don't be stupid about it. READ EVERYTHING.
Clockwork Recovery
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ClockworkMod comes to you via Rom Manager. The reason you don't see the list of downloadable roms is.... they ain't none for that list. There are a few Roms, but they are not subscribed (or whatever) to that service. You gotta get 'em here from their respective threads in xda.
Busybox
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Tibu will give you the option to download and install the latest busybox. It'll give you a button at the bottom that says Problems? That button will put the latest on your phone.
OCLF v2.2 Donate
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You'll need the root actually to get anywhere at first so yeah, disable the lagfix but leave the root.
Which ROM?
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Try them all! They all have their plus and minus. I like cognition, but I've tried Deviant and CDE too. Only way to know what ya like best is take a bite of each.
Any other advice out there or links to good guides would be great too
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Make sure you can do the 3 button thing to get into recovery or download modes. As far as I know that's the only way you can really 'brick" your phone. Some cappy's can't do any 3 button combos from power off. This is bad as you can't get out of the loop into recovery. DesignGears has a post about this, with a fix if you have this issue. Find it, Read it, Know it. And stuff.
Get the androidSDK and learn about abd. Sometimes this can get you out of trouble when nothing else can. There are tons of references to it in xda and google will get you a ton of reading material. Beyond a single post in scope to explain that one. Here's a start: http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/adb.html
Familiarize yourself with Odin and Odin One-Click. Not sure where to point you there as I found my info slogging through the cognition beast...err... thread. Pretty sure you can find a couple threads by DesignGears in development that will get you the programs and get you started.
oh hey sorry one more thing, as long as I'm asking noob questions: I know that live wallpapers drain battery but I love the earth one with a black background, looks so damn good. Anyway does it drain the battery CONSTANTLY as long as it's the wallpaper or only when you're on the home screens and can actually see it?
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I dunno that!
OK, well first off, thanks Sulphur. Bummer I can't use ROM Manager to download new ROMs, that would make things even easier.
Sulphur4724 said:
Make sure you can do the 3 button thing to get into recovery or download modes. As far as I know that's the only way you can really 'brick" your phone. Some cappy's can't do any 3 button combos from power off. This is bad as you can't get out of the loop into recovery. DesignGears has a post about this, with a fix if you have this issue. Find it, Read it, Know it. And stuff.
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Damn it's a good thing you said that. I just tried it to make sure that I could go into recovery mode... I always assumed that I could...
I seem to be one of those people that can't go into recovery mode using the three button press method. What's worse is that I have a mac so I (think) I can't use odin either.
Does this mean I can't fix my phone is it soft bricks while flashing? I can't take that risk...
*sniff*
people say cognition is so cool too...
Go on the development section. There is a fix for the there button issue and cog roms keep it intact
Sent telepathically using vulcan mind meld app.
Komodo Rogue said:
I seem to be one of those people that can't go into recovery mode using the three button press method. What's worse is that I have a mac so I (think) I can't use odin either.
Does this mean I can't fix my phone is it soft bricks while flashing? I can't take that risk...
*sniff*
people say cognition is so cool too...
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Dang. That sucks. Did you look for DesignGears thread on the 3 button issue? There's another one another guy posted but I don't remember who.
No Odin is bad yeah, if you soft brick. You can look at Heimdale (link to it on the Cognition DL page here). But it sounds fairly complicated. Might be fun just to figure it out and seein' as you're on mac it may be your only option. No idea where to send you to learn how to use it tho, just know that it can be used on a Mac.
Good luck to ya!
newter55 said:
Go on the development section. There is a fix for the there button issue and cog roms keep it intact
Sent telepathically using vulcan mind meld app.
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Based on what I read, it seems like I need odin to apply the fix though, right? Thanks though!
Sulphur4724 said:
Dang. That sucks. Did you look for DesignGears thread on the 3 button issue? There's another one another guy posted but I don't remember who.
No Odin is bad yeah, if you soft brick. You can look at Heimdale (link to it on the Cognition DL page here). But it sounds fairly complicated. Might be fun just to figure it out and seein' as you're on mac it may be your only option. No idea where to send you to learn how to use it tho, just know that it can be used on a Mac.
Good luck to ya!
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Thanks for pointing that out! It's WAY beyond my modest computer knowledge (I was using Terminal and typing in Unix commands, I'm sure it was all totally amateur, but I felt like such a computer bad-ass ), but now I actually have an option, where before I had none! Thanks!!
Alright, I'm rooted. Now, I want to have the WiFi tethering and I'd like to overclock. Can I do both? Is there a kernel that does both, or do I run em one at a time? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
ShredNasty said:
Alright, I'm rooted. Now, I want to have the WiFi tethering and I'd like to overclock. Can I do both? Is there a kernel that does both, or do I run em one at a time? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Depends, setiroN puts out a very nice kernel. I use his in my ROMs. On a side note, I would move this to the Q&A before the army shows up!
Edit: you need a custom ROM to gain access to the tethering function.
ShredNasty said:
Alright, I'm rooted. Now, I want to have the WiFi tethering and I'd like to overclock. Can I do both? Is there a kernel that does both, or do I run em one at a time? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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If you haven't done it yet, flash Perception or Cognition, they both have wifi and usb tethering on. I haven't played with the others, but if you do some reading you find out about the others.
adamholden85 said:
Depends, setiroN puts out a very nice kernel. I use his in my ROMs. On a side note, I would move this to the Q&A before the army shows up!
Edit: you need a custom ROM to gain access to the tethering function.
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Yeah, I saw more technical stuff over here so I posted. My bad. I think I want to stay away from ROMs. Idk though. I've heard they're cool, but always break something. I just came from iPhone and I was up to speed. Now I'm such a lost n00b! My goal WAS to overclock and enable tethering and stay with the stock ROM. Are there any ROMs that don't break ANYTHING? Thanks dude.
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Yeah, I saw more technical stuff over here so I posted. My bad. I think I want to stay away from ROMs. Idk though. I've heard they're cool, but always break something. I just came from iPhone and I was up to speed. Now I'm such a lost n00b! My goal WAS to overclock and enable tethering and stay with the stock ROM. Are there any ROMs that don't break ANYTHING? Thanks dude.
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You can always go back to stock, but you never will once you play with some lagfixed kernels and custom roms. I thought this thing blew the iCrap out of the water stock, and its amazing now. Overclocking sounds cool, but unless you are a gamer and actually need the extra clock speed, i'm not sure its worth the effort. I have had ridiculous battery life just using 1GHz and Voodoo lagfix. I would def recommend you try P9.5 (perception) as I have no problems with anything and the best GPS ever.
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You can always go back to stock, but you never will once you play with some lagfixed kernels and custom roms. I thought this thing blew the iCrap out of the water stock, and its amazing now. Overclocking sounds cool, but unless you are a gamer and actually need the extra clock speed, i'm not sure its worth the effort. I have had ridiculous battery life just using 1GHz and Voodoo lagfix. I would def recommend you try P9.5 (perception) as I have no problems with anything and the best GPS ever.
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Right on dude. I'm gonna give it a shot! P9.5 it is.....
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Right on dude. I'm gonna give it a shot! P9.5 it is.....
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Cool, lemme know what you think.
used2hvatreo said:
Cool, lemme know what you think.
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Dude. Could you PM me a link to a how to? Haha!
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Dude. Could you PM me a link to a how to? Haha!
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Don't forget to check out Axura!! I will be putting out 2.6 by the end of the week most likely.
Here is the link if you are interested:
Axura 2.5.1
adamholden85 said:
Don't forget to check out Axura!! I will be putting out 2.6 by the end of the week most likely.
Here is the link if you are interested:
www.kizzmiazz.com/AXURA/AxuraCE_2.5_1.zip
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No disrespect meant to the other ROM devs. I am a DG fanboy and found what I was comfortable with and haven't looked around at all, but I know there are a lot of people out there that like roms made by other devs, and I'm sure they are just as good.
the Perception 9.5 in my signature is the link to the perception thread. The sticky at the top of the thread has all of the guides for beginning to flash roms.
check this out as well, haven't watched it but it should give you an idea of whats going on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
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Cool, lemme know what you think.
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Alright. Finally got back home and got it flashed. Seems fine. Battery life seems a little shorter. I only have about an hour with it. A few questions, what is Blinky? And what is BLN?
bln is back light notification. it can sometimes be turned off in recovery if the kernel has a modded recovery. basically if you get a text email or other alert the phone will put on the soft key back lights. i dont care for it because im never looking at my phone at it is never in a visable location for the lights to catch my attention. basically if i can see the lights im probably about to unlock my phone anyway in which case i can see the notification in the status bar.
blinky is an app that has something to do with bln but it didnt work when i tried to use it.
give the battery a couple days to calibrate. the batstats file can get all screwy making you think you have battery drain. if you charge the phone while it is off and then start the phone the two battery meters should be close to each other. if they are not then the batstats are likely off. you can clear them in clockworkmod recovery. over the coarse of a few days you may see the battery life appear to get longer.
i believe the accepted procedure for calibrating is charge to full. clear batstats. charge to full +1-2hrs. turn off phone and charge to full again +1hr, turn on phone and charge to full.
but i tend to just clear bat stats once and use the phone. im not gonna dis anyones method but i see no point in the calibration thing.
so i just flashed cognition 3.04, and i love it. so much smoother and faster. i was tired of waiting for the officail 2.2 froyo release. the only thing that i dont understand is that it says that the unlock screen should be the stock glass pane swipe thing. but its not. its just the standard froyo unlock screen. not a big deal just wondering about it. so i guess thats my question.
More people requested stock lockscreen over the glass one. It's really upto DG to change whatever he wants in his rom. I guess he likes to satisfy all his followers
yeah i am not upset with the lockscreen. just wondering if i missed something. its a really nice rom. now i am wondering what else should i add to the phone. i want to keep this rom but maybe overclock it next.
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yeah i am not upset with the lockscreen. just wondering if i missed something. its a really nice rom. now i am wondering what else should i add to the phone. i want to keep this rom but maybe overclock it next.
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I'm thinking of trying glitterballz lethal with an i9000 rom. Glitterballz' kernel has always worked well for me.
thejanitor86 said:
so i just flashed cognition 3.04, and i love it. so much smoother and faster. i was tired of waiting for the officail 2.2 froyo release. the only thing that i dont understand is that it says that the unlock screen should be the stock glass pane swipe thing. but its not. its just the standard froyo unlock screen. not a big deal just wondering about it. so i guess thats my question.
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You have to actually read the change log.
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v3.04 Changelog:
EXTREMELY FAST FIRST BOOT!
No update version
Stock Lock Screen
Moved Launcher Pro to /data
Fixed Dialer touch sounds
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This is from his thread.
lol i did read everything in the change log. even researching the things i didnt understand, which was quite a few. ha. but your right. i mistook that for meaning the STOCK captivate lockscreen. and also the two large screenshots threw me off, since the picture posted by designgears of the rom layout clearly shows the lock screen being the glass style one. but if thats the only mistake i made then so be it. what overclocked kernal do you guys recommend with the cognition rom.
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lol i did read everything in the change log. even researching the things i didnt understand, which was quite a few. ha. but your right. i mistook that for meaning the STOCK captivate lockscreen. and also the two large screenshots threw me off, since the picture posted by designgears of the rom layout clearly shows the lock screen being the glass style one. but if thats the only mistake i made then so be it. what overclocked kernal do you guys recommend with the cognition rom.
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No worries man, just thought I would make sure you knew it was in the change log. I personally am not using a OC/UV kernel because every time I have it has killed my battery. I just left Serendipity for that reason. I have run both Hardcore and Glitterballs kernels and I just never had good luck like others have had.
yeah i probably will leave it alone for now. but i feel i want to do more. any suggestions for other stuff i can add/do to the phone now.
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No worries man, just thought I would make sure you knew it was in the change log. I personally am not using a OC/UV kernel because every time I have it has killed my battery. I just left Serendipity for that reason. I have run both Hardcore and Glitterballs kernels and I just never had good luck like others have had.
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Serendipity has given me the best battery life ever. And its rinnin oc.
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Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
Serendipity has given me the best battery life ever. And its rinnin oc.
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That is the beauty of these phones; I was running Serendipity and just yesterday alone I had to charge twice because it killed my battery. I was running extremely mild settings so I would try and help my battery and it still died. That is why I went away from it, but my phone has been that way with all OC/UV kernels. On the other hand with Cognition I flashed yesterday at 85% battery (yes everyone says flash from 100% and I don't care lol) and after 14 hours I am at 70% battery with normal use for me. If I were on Seredipity or any other OC/UV kernel my phone just sleeping would die. It sucks how much of a difference these phones have between each other.
15% drop in 14 hours.....normal use... :/
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15% drop in 14 hours.....normal use... :/
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If you dont cut out the rest of my sentence it says at the end "for me". So simply changing the rom immediately made my battery better because i had serious issues on serendipity. Please dont take a part of what i said and try to twist it around.
This is my captivate. There are many like it buy this one is mine.
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15% drop in 14 hours.....normal use... :/
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If normal use is screen off on airplane mode
flashman2002 said:
If you dont cut out the rest of my sentence it says at the end "for me". So simply changing the rom immediately made my battery better because i had serious issues on serendipity. Please dont take a part of what i said and try to twist it around.
This is my captivate. There are many like it buy this one is mine.
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Sorry, wasn't trying to twist anything. Just surprised at what you would classify as normal.
I just like to look at the screen too much
Why so serious
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Sorry, wasn't trying to twist anything. Just surprised at what you would classify as normal.
I just like to look at the screen too much
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I only speak for myself and my stats. I was using that point based on what i have had happen. I have used my phone more today than the previous couple because the battery lasted. On serendipity which is a good rom overall i would lose atleast 35% during the day with airplane mode on. Working in a clinic att does not work in my area so i keep it on to help savebattery. Too bad my phone hates oc/uv kernels.
This is my captivate. There are many like it buy this one is mine.
well i havent charged the battery since i flashed it and its still at 42 percent. and i have been messing with it alot. so apparently my phone loves cognition. ha. but i was wondering if its possible to put the touchwiz app drawer back in. i liked it better since you can move the apps where you want.