Hi all,
I have TYTN II which was bought in duty free and it is not connected to any network.
ROM Version: 1.81.415.4 WWE
ROM Date: 10/29/07
Radio Version: 1.27.15.32
Protocol Version: 22.51.88.13H
Bootloader (TriColor) screen showing following:
KAIS130
SPL-1.93.0000
CPLD-8
Serial
Please let me know if i can upgrade my rom to the latest one HTC TyTN II-RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship.exe
which i downloaded directly from the HTC but without previously upgrading with HardSPL 1?
Thanks
Yes but why
You don't need to install hardSPL to run the HTC official upgrades from an existing official HTC installation. It's a very straightforward process but be aware many people have found the HTC official TyTN II Windows Mobile 6.1 upgraded ROM to offer deteriorated GPS performance with times to get a satellite lock taking significantly longer. I also found the latest WM 6.1 ROM and Radio combination (what you're looking at upgrading to) to contain quite a few bugs that weren't even in the original WM 6.0 ROM. If you upgrade and don't like it, it's not a straightforward process to put it back again (the HTC repair centre reverted my TyTN II) so make sure it's what you really want.
***Edit*** If your new ROM is for a different region eg Europe vs South East Asia, the ROM *may not be accepted either (I've never tried but I know flashing different languages is a definite nono the 'official' way). If the HTC Website offered up this ROM for your serial no, it should flash through ok.
Thank you for prompt answer Flying Kiwi ,
I have to try upgrading ROM to the latest one in order to try fixing problem i am facing described in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434884
Now, is it worth trying to upgrade to the latest ROM or my problem is of hardware nature?
Thanks
ROM flashing to fix such an issue not advisable
jeremija_de_niro said:
Thank you for prompt answer Flying Kiwi ,
I have to try upgrading ROM to the latest one in order to try fixing problem i am facing described in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434884
Now, is it worth trying to upgrade to the latest ROM or my problem is of hardware nature?
Thanks
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I've replied to that thread but I strongly suggest you don't go down the path of flashing a new ROM (even if you could) to fix a problem present in the device with an HTC official setup like this. It's time to call HTC and (possibly) send it off for Warranty investigation if you have correctly prepared the desktop PCs first. I'm sure that HTC wouldn't release a ROM which had issues that significant on a device so I'm sure the problem is not with the ROM itself.
gps software upgrade
hi
i have a problem that while purchasing my tyttn 2 the rom installed doesnt have the gps software . any body can provide me with a serial for another fone that can get me the software as while providing my serial they are giving me the update of the middle east which doesnt include the software
Ok, here is the deal...
I've got HTC phone with this on "ABOUT" page:
Model: HTC Schubert
OS version: 6360.WM7_PPEscrow (buildlab).20100618-1308
Firmware revision number: 0.81.0.0
Hardware revision number: XB
Radio software version: 5.22.33.09_22.10.30.00U
Radio hardware version: 1.102.0.D4
Bootloader version: 0.81.2230.100831
Chip SOC version: 2.2.3.0
On bootloader screen it says:
Security Unlocked
PD29100 MFG
SPL-0.81.2230.100831
MicroP(LED) 0x04
TOUCH ATME(v16)
Although I'm pretty sure that this is HD7 an it is security unlocked,it does not accept any ROM I've tried to put in via RUU. Always ends with: "error 296: Upgrade only. This NBF file cannot be used for your PDA phone. Please get newer NBF file."
Is there something I've overlooked?
This software on phone is some kind of testing software and is really old and buggy. No Zune or phone want to make update.
Bump! Anyone?!
This seems to be some sort of test device/ software. Definitely not developers Mazza version. What are the specs in about phone area? Not a Chinese copy... Post more detail
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No, it is not Chinese copy. I don't have it right now in my hands, but in first post you can find what it says in "About".
I also think that this is some kind of prototype/test device. Do you think that it is possible to do something with this procedure: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216393 ?
Also, it has blue area around camera and under tilt, and on HD7 it is yellow.
install HSPL and flash any ROM you want. This is a test device i think. May not be final however.
Phone is at my workplace, so I'll try it tomorow. I hope with success
Also I have one Mozart with same "problem". Do you think I can do same thing with it?
And nothing. This OSPL is not supported. Both devices...
How much you want for that phone? I will be interested if you want to sell it... PM me
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Interesting
I ordered a warranty replacement HD7 from TMobile.
I was playing with some bits from dev on this forum to see if I could backup my original phone and restore to the new one.
When I connected the new phone for the first time, Zune recognized it as a device named Schubert, along with my original device.
It eventually resolved to the phone ID I had previously assigned.
Any thoughts? I'd like to understand this better.
Mr wragg
I'm From Morocco and I have the Same Device and the Same Problemes, and no one in the Xda-Developpers have any idea i Post new Thread and no one can answer me just one persone tell me that maybe the device is Developper Device,
I have tried to install All ROM , Costum and Official and always the Myterious ERROR 296,
I search again and again, because in like this Phone I'll break him and buy another because Also it have one language ENGLISH and Market Place not WOrking
have you find any Solution ?
I have an AT&T branded HD7 (it says HTC T9295 in Zune) which I'm trying to update. I think the phone was originally a pre-release handset and the OS version is 7.0.7348. I can copy and paste so perhaps this is pre-NoDo build? Anyway, trying to update to NoDo and beyond - the phone plus Zune is telling me that an update (7392) is available. Zune is allowing me to get right to the last step of the update process before giving me a 80180048 error. I've tried the Windows Phone Support tool but get "The tool cannot recover this phone. Please contact technical support." Any help would be greatly appreciated!
you could 'start from scratch' and just flash the stock Shipped ROM...
the stock Shipped ROM is already NoDo. Shipped ROM link in my signature.
sh4d0w86.
Ah many thanks I'll give it a go now!
dedhandi said:
Ah many thanks I'll give it a go now!
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welcome.
sh4d0w86.
Worked like a dream, cheers!
Hey my question is the following.
Seeing as the Interop Unlock doesn't work for any HTC devices older than version 7720 I'm gonna try the following:
Restore a 7720 backup onto the phone, hard reset it and entirely start over.
Thing is, I dont own a 7720 backup anymore and I really dont wanna try flashing myself.
Question: Can anyone upload his/her 7720 backup from a European HTC HD7 (I'm Belgian btw) so that I can try this proces and hopefully get the interop unlock done this way without flashing?
I wanna start all over for the reason that my phone is draining my battery faster than a $20 hooker when the Navy ships come into port.
[edit]: If I hard reset now it will show up as a Mango phone with 8107 standard on it, which is NOT entitled to be Interop Unlocked, till Heathcliff comes up with something awesome!
[edit2]: In case you still have your 7720 backup available from Zune backup at this moment, you can find it under
"C:\Users\[your username]\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update", its the file that looks like "f3874e8d - c6f37f88 - c1504a27 - f0452346" that I need
[edit3]: I did read that backups are phone specific but it wouldnt hurt to give it a shot as I really dont want to flash
Any help / link to the backup is highly appreciated!
as you, yourself, said... back-ups are device specific. so, not worth it.
if the reason you want to revert back to a previous version is because of battery...
01. why not try a different Radio?
02. why not reset?
03. maybe try a Custom ROM? ...though that means flashing.
sh4d0w86 said:
as you, yourself, said... back-ups are device specific. so, not worth it.
if the reason you want to revert back to a previous version is because of battery...
01. why not try a different Radio?
02. why not reset?
03. maybe try a Custom ROM? ...though that means flashing.
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Well was worth a shot, what I had in mind that if i used that backup, I would have the stuff aka device of said person. Then hard reset and my system would be wiped clean, starting up with 7720.
01) I might try a different radio but I after searching a bit I found a few posts saying that the radio wont do much for the battery, well maybe a bit but not noteworthy.
02) I did try a reset, it starts up with 8107 then, and the battery IS fixed then... problem is, you cant interop unlock anything above 7720, which I kinda really need
03) I've read some tutorials about flashing a custom rom, and they all say to revert back to NoDo before even attempting it... thing is, I cant find any NoDo European rom (the links are dead). And even if I manage to find one (found just the one) its a branded one, while my phone is an unbranded phone.
Also that guide said in the comments that an unbranded phone is only flashable to NoDo with the goldcard method, which I'm not fond of using frankly.
So I guess I just have to wait till Heathcliff comes up with a way to interop unlock v2 mango devices
Thanks for your reply though!
01. everybody gets different results with battery... perhaps your device would greatly benefit from a different Radio. the great thing is, flashing a new Radio won't touch the OS.
03. did you see the tutorial i wrote? link in my signature.
also, i fixed all the download links on the XDA Wiki Shipped ROMs page. link in my signature, as well.
sh4d0w86 said:
01. everybody gets different results with battery... perhaps your device would greatly benefit from a different Radio. the great thing is, flashing a new Radio won't touch the OS.
03. did you see the tutorial i wrote? link in my signature.
also, i fixed all the download links on the XDA Wiki Shipped ROMs page. link in my signature, as well.
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01) Ah ok, I might try the radio thing then, only difficulty is that there are so many and no real threads saying which one could be more beneficial than which. (I know much of this is based on the personal device instead of the OS)
Especially I just read that it wont touch the OS, which I initially thought it did in some way.
03) however I did see the tutorial and im inclined to try that as well. The only issue is that I would like to use the 7.5 shipped ROM if any but that leaves me with 3 questions.
--> I see the HTC HD7 non shipped ROMS section, seeing as I'm from Europe there is only one (the european one) non shipped ROM under Mango, are you certain that that is the one I need? aka does that work on my HTC HD7 for sure?
--> Which is the version of that Mango, is that the 7720 I asked in my original thread or is that an updated version, like 7740 or so? (seeing as it says "Test ROM")
--> Or would you recommend using the "Windows Phone 7 Unbranded ROMs (NoDo)" and if so, there are 2 European ones, seeing as I'm a total noob on that, which one belongs to my phone and why? (cause 1 says ROM 3.03 and the other 1.70 which is a huge difference but no clue in what.. :$)
Thanks in advance, the answers gotten have been very helpful so far!
[edit] The ROM I just asked these 2 questions about.. I'm sorry to say this but I can't download it for the simple reason that apparantly the download button wants to go to MegaUpload but that site has been thrown offline by the FBI as you propably know.
01. visit the Radio Wiki page, instructions are there.
03. only use Shipped ROMs, not Test or Unbranded ROMs.
what is your device's Firmware revision number and Bootloader version?
sh4d0w86 said:
01. visit the Radio Wiki page, instructions are there.
03. only use Shipped ROMs, not Test or Unbranded ROMs.
what is your device's Firmware revision number and Bootloader version?
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For the wiki link, I've found that and I will try this unless the ROM works, seems like a more permanent solution. Its propably some app using battery without me knowing so just wanted to perform a hard reset, which is impossible without my 7720 backup (for interop reasons)
What I didnt really get out of that topic and related ones refered to in that topic is if I pick a radio above the one I now have (the mango with tethering) for say a 5.51...radio from preNoDo, will I lose anything special, like the tethering itself or is that just a "title name"?
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But I have an unbranded phone, wont it be bad to put a branded ROM on there or will that mather be erased when I hard reset after putting the ROM on?
Or am I missing the whole point of Branded ROM here, I thought that had to do with things as if you were a AT&T user or Tmobile user or summit cause I am neither of the above. As I said, first time.
It's just that on some threads for custom HD7 roms I've read that if you have an unbranded phone and want to downgrade: "forget it". Which is exactly what I have imo.
Firmware revision number: 2250.21.51004.401
Bootloader version: 5.10.2250.0 (132968)
[edit] I am that far (I know it's yet to begin ofc) that i've finally started the download of "RUU_Schubert_S_HTC_Europe_4.05.401.02_Radio_5.69.09.29a..." file (the only European file under Mango, 7720, the one above Ethernet Sharing)
01. that is just a label really; informing where the Radio originated from.
02. 'Unbranding' is really 'Branding' to the Europe Shipped version. the Europe Shipped version, however, isn't set-up to a particular brand [read: carrier], therefore 'unbranded.' make sense?
03. you should be Europe branded... therefore, on that XSPL Tutorial, you should be able to downgrade your 5.xx Bootloader using Step 06's method.
sh4d0w86 said:
01. that is just a label really; informing where the Radio originated from.
02. 'Unbranding' is really 'Branding' to the Europe Shipped version. the Europe Shipped version, however, isn't set-up to a particular brand [read: carrier], therefore 'unbranded.' make sense?
03. you should be Europe branded... therefore, on that XSPL Tutorial, you should be able to downgrade your 5.xx Bootloader using Step 06's method.
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Ok, that does make sense. Way more than the information I read on several other topics, wherefor thank you kindly!
I shall take note of the 06's method to downgrade my bootloader.
That leaves me with 2 small questions, there's a little section called "if RSPL'd and HSPL is desired". I have no clue what that is, should I just follow the steps and do as it says anyways or is that optional (refering to "if desired")?
And secondly, "38. download ROM of choice. Shipped ROMs are available, here."
I am downloading "RUU_Schubert_S_HTC_Europe_4.05.401.02_Radio_5.69.09.29a_22.50.50.21_Signed_SCHUBERT_RELEASE.exe" which should be the correct 7720 ROM for my phone (hopefully?). By "ROM of choice", does that mean I can put Deepshining or NextGen+ on there as well or isnt that an option for my Unbranded HD7? (like they both warn for in their install tutorials)
Now that I think of it my phone is like you said Branded to Europe, which means they warn for "unbranded ROMs" like the one in your siggy's third link amirite?
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But that aside, I thank you very much for the help, it's highly appreciated, now lets hope my HD7 wont brick on me and I'll be a happy man *moves mouse to the "Thank" button*
01. RSPL is a temporary SPL, which reverts back to OSPL after reset. HSPL is a permanent SPL, which replaces OSPL. so, if you don't want to go through the hassle of RSPL'ing every time you want to flash a Custom ROM... i suggest HSPL'ing.
02. with XSPL, one can flash any Schubert ROM, including Custom ROMs, yes.
03. unsure what you are asking, sorry.
Basically what I was asking if flashing the Mango 7720 shipped ROM works, if I could use this method (seeing as the tutorial says "Rom of choice") to Flash NextGen+ instead?
Cause in that tutorial (could be the one from Deepshining too) there's a line that says if you have an unbranded ROM dont even try to downgrade the bootloader cause that'll brick the phone.
But from the info you just gave me I can make up that my phone's ROM is not unbranded but Branded to Europe or am I that far off?
(meaning that I can in fact downgrade the Bootloader and Flash a custommade ROM instead)
[edit] being this kind of a noob and all I kinda got what HSPL and RSPL does, but what is XSPL? You've mentioned it in a previous post in HD7 General but cant seem to find any down-to-earth info. Its not in the tutorial either, unless XSPL just means Bootloader 3.xx or 2.xx, then I got it
So if i want Deepshining (aka custom ROM) I need to do XSPL instead of RSPL or HSPL? (XSPL, for custom Roms, I assume... means I need step 19 instead of 06 or run through everything from bootloader 5 -> 4 -> 3 to get to step 19 aka XSPL)
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Summing up, if I want the 7720 mango I do step 06 and continue at 30.
If I want a custom rom for say Deepshining I do step 06 -> 09 and from then on every step till the bottom? If that's correct I got the picture
(Thanks for the effort here btw)
XSPL is basically ?SPL, meaning it refers to both RSPL & HSPL.
during the downgrading Bootloader process and the XSPL process, only Shipped ROMs can be used. only once XSPL is installed can Custom ROMs be flashed to your device.
does that answer your questions?
sh4d0w86 said:
XSPL is basically ?SPL, meaning it refers to both RSPL & HSPL.
during the downgrading Bootloader process and the XSPL process, only Shipped ROMs can be used. only once XSPL is installed can Custom ROMs be flashed to your device.
does that answer your questions?
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Well now you see how much of a student I still am, but yes I think I got it
Refering to your tutorial, I see 2 scenarios
* I want the 7720 mango I do to step 06 and continue at 30.
* I want a custom rom for say Deepshining I do to step 06, then continue with 09 and from then on every step till the bottom?
If that's correct I got the picture and my questions are answered entirely
hmm, well, i haven't ever actually tried ansar's SLSPL before... so, i can't tell you what exactly to do after using it. maybe report back here after installing SLSPL, then i can guide you where to go from there?
Ok I will, I'll start right now and see where that brings me, starting off with step 01, downloading Task 29 and 00. Then the SLSPL.
Lets hope for a nonbrick
Ok, I now have
Os version: 7.10.7720.68
Bootloader version 4.5.2250.0
I assume I continue with step 09. in your tutorial if I want Deepshining ROM or stop if I'm happy to interop unlock my phone now and update to 8107 through Zune?
yep, continue to Step 09 on the XSPL Tutorial.
Okiedo, next step
Downloaded "Schubert_Europe_1.54.401.01_Radio_5.51.09.29_22.32.50.10U"
Did steps till 18.
Bootloader: 1.54.2250.0
[edit] nevermind what I wrote here, continueing with step 30 seeing as you suggested HSPL instead of RSPL seeing as I read that RSPL voids waranty or summit.
What is the difference "DFT_HSPL_WP7FG1_INSTALL" & "DFT_HSPL_WP7FG2_INSTALL". I know its Gen 1 & 2, but which one do I have and how do I check or is it just NoDo = G1 and Mango = G2, in that case I have to launch G2?
two rar files..? if referring to XSPL, only need FG2 aka the latest version.
There we go, HSPL3.1.2250.0
CotullaHSPL 0x07
So now I have the downloaded and extracted Deepshining ROM, I have "RUU_signed.nbh"
I run Task 29 or the ROMupdateUtlity.exe (inside the ROM) and that should be the end?
[edit] every time Deepshining comes up with a new rom or I want any ROM installed I have to go through all these steps again right? Or can I just flash another ROM on there as I desire, aka an updated version of Deepshining for example?