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Since everything I need to know is scattered across various threads and there is no specific information regarding my question AFAIK so I decided to post a new thread. Forgive a newb for being worried.
I've decided to root my N1 and am running the EPF24B European build. I just had some questions and concerns:
1. What ROM do you think is best? I think the majority of people like Cyanogen.
2. If I root my phone now and flash on Cyanogen, when Cyanogen releases a Froyo ROM how will I update? Does that happen through a dedicated app? OTA?
3. How do I keep all my current programs and settings? I've heard of Nandroid but have no idea what it does. I presume it has something to do with the NAND memory?
4. btw how stable is a rooted phone?
5. I've seen a number of guides here, but don't know whether or not they are the latest versions. Can anyone point me to a proper guide? Or are they all the same?
Thanks if anyone can answer this.
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hackm0d said:
Since everything I need to know is scattered across various threads and there is no specific information regarding my question AFAIK so I decided to post a new thread. Forgive a newb for being worried.
I've decided to root my N1 and am running the EPF24B European build. I just had some questions and concerns:
1. What ROM do you think is best? I think the majority of people like Cyanogen.
2. If I root my phone now and flash on Cyanogen, when Cyanogen releases a Froyo ROM how will I update? Does that happen through a dedicated app? OTA?
3. How do I keep all my current programs and settings? I've heard of Nandroid but have no idea what it does. I presume it has something to do with the NAND memory?
4. btw how stable is a rooted phone?
5. I've seen a number of guides here, but don't know whether or not they are the latest versions. Can anyone point me to a proper guide? Or are they all the same?
Thanks if anyone can answer this.
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you might get flamed for this or get this thread closed but i will try to help u.
1)while cyanogen is the best rom in my opinion, froyo is the ****. no matter what. and when cyanogen finally puts his touches on it, it will be even better.
3)no you cant keep them. u would have to be ROOTED first and then you can use titanium backup to make a backup or all your settings and freeze apps. til then, nope u have to completely wipe and start over again. i know when i switch from rom to rom, google automatically downloads the apps that i have had installed before i switch roms if that helps you any.
4)rooted phones are VERY stable and even faster than stock. more memory, runs smoother. the only one that might not run as smooth is the Desire Rom because of sense ui but i love sense ui and have it on my G1 but yes rooted phones are stable.
5)i have followed the instructions of this guide that was for macs tho. u have to be a bit specific if your on mac or pc
I'm using a PC.
And thanks for your input.
btw you didn't answer question 2. If I update to CM now, will I be able to update OTA when a Froyo version comes out?
Im very new to rooting and rom switching so please go easy
I just tried the cyanogen mod 6 for my nexus 1 and i have a few questions about it.
First, i cant really see anything new accept a few things in the cyanogen menu under "settings". Second, i cant see a speed increase either. Stock is actually working faster!
After all the amazing stuff i keep hearing about cyanogen, i just wanna know, what is it about this one (cm6) that im missing??? I just wanna appreciate it like everyone else
I have no clue.. i went back to Geo411m's ROM..
Personally i want a ROM that is more closer to stock as possible, and i really have no need for certain tweaks really. I used the 5.0.8 N1 quite abit before i went over to Froyo. It was allright for me but later on i really like stock based ROM's.
i agree. its seems as though the stock roms work best with froyo (for now anyway) i have been using a rom called "frf_blackbar_v3_signed" and its working great.
Since im new to this stuff (coming from an iphone!) i just figured i was missing out on something right under my eyes! I know its a new rom and it will get better too.
Have faith and give CM some time
They've been working on it for two weeks and its only their first official froyo release(RC1). Im sure things will pick up and get more exciting soon.
I also tested the performance of stock vs cm, and they didn't differ by that much...
Cyanogen has tons of additional features. What I recommended you do is look at his changelog.
He has listed all the new goodies.
Personally I like the kernal which allows overclocking, the music app which has support for flac right out the box, and the renderer which switches the screen color to save you battery.
I will pay attention to Cyanogen ROM for sure..
yea il be keeping an eye on it as well. Can i ask...
What is a kernel?
What is a online kitchen?
why do we have to flash different radios? (do they mean TMO and AT&T radios?)
Sindroid said:
I have no clue.. i went back to Geo411m's ROM..
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Exact same here. Went from CM6 to Geo411m's ROM yesterday. Its fast, I know what I have, and battery life is good. Tried LeoFroYo this morning but there was just too much there for what I need. A quick Nandroid restore to Geo411m and that's where I'm staying for now
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blunted09 said:
yea il be keeping an eye on it as well. Can i ask...
What is a kernel?
What is a online kitchen?
why do we have to flash different radios? (do they mean TMO and AT&T radios?)
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kernel is the guts of your system
online kitchen is where users can create their own roms
new radios add new features that some roms depend on
i don't recommend you messing with any of these things until you do a lot of reading
from what i understand the only way to truly screw up is if i DONT do a nandroid backup. If i do a nandroid backup once when i just rooted and unlocked the bootloader do i still have to do them every time i wanna put on a new rom to fully ensure that i dont brick or badly screw up my phone?
not necesarily, i nandroid before i do any mods to my system just in case i trash it i can boot it right back up just like it was 5 mins prior
If you truly brick your phone, you won't be able to boot into recovery to restore. You do a nandroid once you have your rom setup the way you want, so when you restore you go back to that point. Cyanogen is one of the best, if not the best. The man went through it with Google, just to bless us with his gift, show some RESPECT!!!!! I just flashed his latest & greatest, and I love it. Although im not a fan of white status bar. I like nothing stock, but I flashed black status bar, and pushed black goggle search box, and rm the apps I didn't want, like twitter and gmail. It's a keeper, and will only get better.The more ability to customize the better. That's why I root in the first place. Options, options, options, I love it.
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from what i understand the only way to truly screw up is if i DONT do a nandroid backup. If i do a nandroid backup once when i just rooted and unlocked the bootloader do i still have to do them every time i wanna put on a new rom to fully ensure that i dont brick or badly screw up my phone?
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You don't brick your phone by flashing a new ROM that doesn't contain radio. You don't brick your phone with almost anything that you do, in the worst case - you're left with a phone that doesn't load OS and needs wipe+reflash, and you lose all your settings and data.
But:
You DO brick your phone by flashing the wrong radio / interrupting radio flash before it finishes.
As with the rest of your questions: I suggest you use this forum and Google and read a lot. That would answer your questions.
Also, I was a user of CyanogenMod on 2.1, kept it until LeoFroyo hit 1.2-beta, flashed, liked, and now I'm with Enomther, who has a fast, stable ROM with most of the features Cyanogen has, and it covers everything I want/need. I'll wait for CyanogenMod to integrate Apps2SDExt into framework, and then compare it again.
Now that i have done the one click rooting to my phone"nexus one 2.2 Froyo with ""universal androot"" I was just wondering what would be the BEST rom to install on my phone.What advice would you give me with your experiences. what extra things do i need to consider putting on my phone. what would be a good security apps to hold intruders from getting in my phone..i have heard of overclocking but have no clue as to set it up and at what frequency...I would like to keep my hot-spot , perhaps increase the sound quality and have a 720 cap camera just to name a few.Any help would be greatly appreciated
Regards
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 on mine and I've loving it. Fast, stable, and looks great!
cool.now my question to you is where do i get a safe link to download and what are the steps to do so..thanks for your feed back
Go to Development section and read. Each ROM has a thread containing instructions for installation.
I suggest Enomther's ROM.
hey!!!
I am so happy.I tried into recovery mode but I could not find the rom there.did not know if i had to rename it or....anyways ...i went into the rom manager that I had downloaded from there the whole thing was self explanatory.I did download the cyanogenmod 6 fist and then the kernel .wow this is amazing .I wish I had done that a long long time ago.My contribution to this great team is on the way ang in the near future!! thanks guys!!
Nice going! Where did u find universal androot?
so if i use this on my unrooted nexus one 2.2, i can get root access apps?
Im not interested in custom roms just want to uninstall apps like amazon and twitter and use apps like titanium backup.
Will i receive OTA updates? and you can un-root right?
inhuman5000 said:
so if i use this on my unrooted nexus one 2.2, i can get root access apps?
Im not interested in custom roms just want to uninstall apps like amazon and twitter and use apps like titanium backup.
Will i receive OTA updates? and you can un-root right?
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Yes to all...see this thread for easy details & info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747598
Im a noob to this. I've been searching the forums and can't find the what I'm looking for. i have a cdma hero and I've rooted using Z4. my question is it possible to flash roms and kernals using Z4. if possible i would like to have Live wallpapers on my phone and looking into Froyo or Gingerbread that are the most stable for daily use, and the steps in doing so. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks
512heroATX said:
Im a noob to this. I've been searching the forums and can't find the what I'm looking for. i have a cdma hero and I've rooted using Z4. my question is it possible to flash roms and kernals using Z4. if possible i would like to have Live wallpapers on my phone and looking into Froyo or Gingerbread that are the most stable for daily use, and the steps in doing so. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks
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I'll tell you right now, lwp's don't work very well on the hero. There are a few that do, but imho, not worth the battery drain. Still, it's your baby, do as you wish. You can find them in the market.
As for roms, froyo builds are a little bit more stable, as there has been more time spent tweaking them. With that said, I have no issues with cm7 #7, other than reduced camera quality. That is an easy fix by downloading a camera from the market, though, do no big deal for me. I just hope you don't want a sense build, as froyo sense is still lacking and there are no gingerbread builds.
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On the CM7 #7 is it possible run LWPs? @ this point I really don't care if it does or doesn't.My main concern is bricking my phone, have u heard any one using Z4 to use custom roms and if u have what was the process in doing so with Z4. All the info i have in installing custom roms are for other methods of Root, or should i just dump Z4 and go with another Root. I really appreciate the help..
From what I've heard, z4 works fine, just not sure if it flashes a custom recovery (necessary). Personally, I prefer to root via the learning method which would use Regaw's tutorial (in the dev forum, I would link, but I'm on my phone), it'll start you on the process to learning the things you need to know anyway. As for bricking your phone, the only way you're gonna do that is if you flash a GSM radio to your phone. Best advice I can give you is to read, read, read. When I first rooted, the DarchDroid 2.8(thanks Darch!) thread was about 400 posts and I refused to root until I read it all and I was confident that I knew what I was doing, and what to expect when it was done.
XDA is a great community, and we will all help you in your endeavor, but you will benefit the most by trying to help yourself. Good luck and have fun.
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AFAIK, z4 does not flash a recovery. You would need to get one from somewhere. Either Amon-RA, which I use, or ClockworkMod. The only way I can think of to actually brick your hero is to flash a gsm radio. As an aside, z4 does nothing other than root your device, so no, you cannot flash roms with it.
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Unless Something was Changed in the past few months, z4root ONLY ROOTS YOUR PHONE.... But it Does Work Well, I've Used it on about 4-5 Different Phones!!
But if I can I Recommend Using ROM Manager for your Custom Recovery, Especially since you Said Your New to the Root Stuff!!
Good Luck!!
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I really appreciate all the help...So far i have Rom Manager,Titanium Backup. I backed up every thing on my phone. I'm just about ready to Flash CM7 but I just can't find where I can download it to my Laptop. If someone can link me to where I can download it.Thanks Again for the help.
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I really appreciate all the help...So far i have Rom Manager,Titanium Backup. I backed up every thing on my phone. I'm just about ready to Flash CM7 but I just can't find where I can download it to my Laptop. If someone can link me to where I can download it.Thanks Again for the help.
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http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=heroc
You can also find the link in the cm7 thread.
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Thanks! I'll keep you all posted how it goes.If you all don't hear from me in several days (5 days max) something whent wrong since I use my phone to access the internet from my Laptop. Thanks again!
Thanks for the help. I just got around to flashing the new rom yesterday. I've been really busy working, but i noticed my Google Maps GPS is not working properly. It tells me the directions but can't see the map, any idea how to fix....
DO A NANDROID BACKUP IN YOUR RECOVERY MODE(HOLD VOLUME DOWN THEN POWER BUTTON WHILE PHONE IS OFF)
I also have a hero running cm7 no problems, if you want to do everything really easy just download ROM manager from the market. With this flash a recovery image, then go toa website with some custom roms (google android candy and you'll find a few good ones) once you've downloaded the rom of your choosing, go back into ROM manager and select "install ROM from sd card" WIPE DATA! BACKUP CURRENT ROM!
It'll take about twenty minutes to boot the first time, have patience
ok, well I do own an EVO (Spint) that has been rooted and numerous mod's installed and feel comfortable around it (currently running c7 and loving it).
Now I have a new Galaxy S (7 inch) and looking to test some ROM's and wanted to confirm a few basic things b4 I jump in. It came with 2.2 and I am hearing about 2.3, even 3 on it, but is 3 around yet? Having the evo, the market has more items, launchers, etc. which I am assuming is due to the carrier/vendor so I am hoping some new mod's will make it more customizable!
It is rooted (used z4 from my readings, hope that was OK), have the normal stuff installed, but can I simply ROM manager full backup, then d/l some ROM's and play? Upon installing ClockWorkMod recovery it asked to confirm a phone model;
Galaxy S i9000 and Galaxy S i9000 (MTD). Now it's not a phone, there is no carrier, etc. so I am not sure what to select on that.
Lastly is similar to the above, but is the process of flashing, restoring, etc. the same as on the phone? I mean since it's so new, I am a bit concerned with bricking the thing, but since it's not a phone I don't think I need to worry as much.
Thanks to all replies as usual.
All your questions will be answered with a quick visit to the Dev forum. Each thread has a mini/full installation guide on the 1st post
Galaxy Tab came with 2.2 onboard...and if you ever register at Samsung's site, it is listed under smartphones...lot of customization options exist for the tab...
Overcome rom is the best rom out there for the GSM Tab...both Froyo and GB roms are there...GB still in beta though...Overcome comes with its own CWM...it also comes with detailed flashing instructions so no worries...
Z4root is fine...have that installed and it works as good as anything else...
Don't think rom manager has the correct Rom for this...the tab is P1000 or other variants and the ones you mentioned looks to be for the Galaxy S phones...
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I did continue my reading from last night and saw overcome seems to be the 'weapon of choice'.
I will start simple and register, then start to look at the flashing process and how it differs from the EVO regarding full backup (just in case), mod changes etc.
Looking forward to this new route to go down.
Thanks.