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Internet Speeds on device vs tethered

I was wondering if everyone experienced the same thing as I am regarding data speeds.
I use the wap.cingular access point and when I use Internet Connection sharing to tether my phone I generally get speeds ranging from 150-750kbps down and 100-350kbps up.
Tonight for instance I am at a location with EDGE network access (full bars) and am getting about 150 down 100 up when tethered.
These speeds were measured with speakeasy.net speedtest.
However, when I am just using my Tilt by itself (untethered) with PIE, or Google Maps, or another application my speeds seem much much slower.
For instance, when using tethering it took about 10 seconds to load the mail xda-developers.com forum page from scratch. On my device it can take well over a minute (or two) to download the page and become responsive enough for me to scroll it.
Even when i have a 3G connection and get tethered speeds in the 500-800 range my PIE connections seem to be slow like this as well.
I realize that the CPU power of the phone may mean slightly longer loading times to render a page, but the speed difference seems tenfold.
It also seems strange that if I were to download like a 3Mb file it would transfer at speeds more closely matching my tethered speeds, but HTML website browsing is very slow. Bringing up anything other than google usually takes at least a minute to get a usable page.
Am I alone in this? If so...any suggestions. If not...any explanations?
thx

3g speed too fast?

I ran a speed test at mobilespeedtest.com and got this
I think its way too good to be true, is anyone else at this speed?

kylez64 said:
I ran a speed test at mobilespeedtest.com and got this
I think its way too good to be true, is anyone else at this speed?
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If it goes through a proxy it will screw things up. I once did a GPRS test (on an SE W580i) and got 40kbps with the SE browser. On opera mini it would tell me I was on 56MB

I did the test off and on now with around the same results
it says compared to other isps its about 9 times faster, i thought for sure there was an error, or just extremely lucky.

kylez64 said:
I did the test off and on now with around the same results
it says compared to other isps its about 9 times faster, i thought for sure there was an error, or just extremely lucky.
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try some other speed test site
mobilespeedtest.com says my 3g speed is 11907 Kbps oO
lukluk says my max speed is 619 Kbps
Xtreme lab's speedtest app says my d/l speed is 447 Kbits/s

speed testing - the badass way
Okay if you want to do this right, first turn off any compression you may have enabled in Connections. Tether up a laptop with wmwifirouter (grab a trial). Might as well turn up your wifi strength on the phone but that may not matter. On the computer make sure you've got no crap running in the background that uses bandwidth including IM and p2p obviously on either the phone or the computer. Fire up a browser and do multiple tests from multiple servers on http://speakeasy.net/speedtest.
When you're done, for good measure, repeat but tethering through usb not wifi. I believe wifi may be faster than wifi and it does matter when you're testing a connection with possible but very unlikely throughput in the neighborhood of six bonded T1 lines.
Doug
edit: Sometimes carriers and ISPs cheat on their customers' bandwidth testing by packet bursting, shaping, throttling and proxy tricks. Since you're seeing insane (and most likely erroneous) speed results and if you want to bother getting to the bottom of this, in addition or instead of doing what I said, tether up with your computer, install this little simple bandwidth meter (on the computer) which I attached and download this 256.5MB copy of OpenBSD from this mirror on your computer:
ftp://filedump.se.rit.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.5/amd64/install45.iso
And watch your bandwidth meter. Also fire up your best stopwatch and clock the full download and do some math to get the speed.
While you're at it figure out a way to upload a >10MB file somewhere and clock that too. Be advised your throughput testing may be confounded by the time of day and your carrier's network saturation in addition to your signal strength which might vary if you've got your laptop screen in between your phone and the path to the nearest tower.
Wow I guess I turned this into a big project.
edit: if you don't have access to another machine or are too lazy to do the tethering thing at least use dslreports/mspeed to download a 1MB test as opposed to mobilespeedtest.com's 512KB.

d0ugie said:
Okay if you want to do this right, first turn off any compression you may have enabled in Connections. Tether up a laptop with wmwifirouter (grab a trial). Might as well turn up your wifi strength on the phone but that may not matter. On the computer make sure you've got no crap running in the background that uses bandwidth including IM and p2p obviously on either the phone or the computer. Fire up a browser and do multiple tests from multiple servers on http://speakeasy.net/speedtest.
When you're done, for good measure, repeat but tethering through usb not wifi. I believe wifi may be faster than wifi and it does matter when you're testing a connection with possible but very unlikely throughput in the neighborhood of six bonded T1 lines.
Doug
edit: Sometimes carriers and ISPs cheat on their customers' bandwidth testing by packet bursting, shaping, throttling and proxy tricks. Since you're seeing insane (and most likely erroneous) speed results and if you want to bother getting to the bottom of this, in addition or instead of doing what I said, tether up with your computer, install this little simple bandwidth meter (on the computer) which I attached and download this 256.5MB copy of OpenBSD from this mirror on your computer:
ftp://filedump.se.rit.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.5/amd64/install45.iso
And watch your bandwidth meter. Also fire up your best stopwatch and clock the full download and do some math to get the speed.
While you're at it figure out a way to upload a >10MB file somewhere and clock that too. Be advised your throughput testing may be confounded by the time of day and your carrier's network saturation in addition to your signal strength which might vary if you've got your laptop screen in between your phone and the path to the nearest tower.
Wow I guess I turned this into a big project.
edit: if you don't have access to another machine or are too lazy to do the tethering thing at least use dslreports/mspeed to download a 1MB test as opposed to mobilespeedtest.com's 512KB.
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well I did this and got around 1-2 mbps witch is still very good for me
one can always dream though lol

[Q] HD7 Data Connection Issues (T-Mobile USA)

Has anyone else had trouble with loading web pages occassionally on T-Mobile's data connection?
Every once in awhile, web pages simply won't load, and I get the "This Page Cannot Be Displayed" error. It seems like I have to close all my tabs and then open a page to get it working again. This "glitch" or whatever it is, doesn't happen on WiFi, but has happened numerous times on the data connection.
Is this happening to anyone else??? It's like T-Mobile is trying to throttle the connection or something... I haven't used THAT much data

ace10134 said:
Has anyone else had trouble with loading web pages occassionally on T-Mobile's data connection?
Every once in awhile, web pages simply won't load, and I get the "This Page Cannot Be Displayed" error. It seems like I have to close all my tabs and then open a page to get it working again. This "glitch" or whatever it is, doesn't happen on WiFi, but has happened numerous times on the data connection.
Is this happening to anyone else??? It's like T-Mobile is trying to throttle the connection or something... I haven't used THAT much data
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I have noticed this too, but when I look I usually have dropped to Edge from 3G. I think it has more to do with the 3G signal than the device itself. Possibly issues with your location the construction of the building you are in overhead fluorescent light, all of those might factor into the dropping signal. Just a theory.

I was pulling some CRAZY download speeds on mobile speed test website.
I was actually getting 25 Mb down consistently... With a 7 Mb sample size and about 5 different tests on 3G! The phone was blazing fast at the time too.
When I got home on wifi my speeds were back to normal - around 9 Mb.
I wonder if they were doing some network upgrades in Princeton NJ today?
Pretty crazy, and while it may have been the speed test was whacky, I really don't think it could've have been wrong on that many separate tests.
Anyway, that's my input. I think data has been good.

pittphan said:
I was pulling some CRAZY download speeds on mobile speed test website.
I was actually getting 25 Mb down consistently... With a 7 Mb sample size and about 5 different tests on 3G! The phone was blazing fast at the time too.
When I got home on wifi my speeds were back to normal - around 9 Mb.
I wonder if they were doing some network upgrades in Princeton NJ today?
Pretty crazy, and while it may have been the speed test was whacky, I really don't think it could've have been wrong on that many separate tests.
Anyway, that's my input. I think data has been good.
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Yea, speed is no issue. I get 9 or 10 Mbps download speeds regularly. The problem is as I described, once in a while pages simply refuse to load, and I basically have to restart the browser. You have never experienced that? Thanks to the other user for your feedback, that might be true about it switching from 3G to Edge, I'll try to pay attention to that the next time it happens.

yeah, i got the issue you mentioned earlier this afternoon. hitting the refresh button doesn't seem to help either.

On several occasions, I've struggled to get a decent data connection, despite there being an apparent signal. Turning the data off and back on again in settings->mobile network has fixed it, but it is frustrating.

zulu208 said:
yeah, i got the issue you mentioned earlier this afternoon. hitting the refresh button doesn't seem to help either.
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Yep. well it's good to know that others are experiencing it. I don't believe it is a problem with T-Mobile's network, since my old WinMo phone worked just fine. I wonder if people on ATT have this issue, cause I would say it is something that needs to be fixed in Windows Phone in general. I'll post the question in their Samsung Focus forums.

I usually do not have any problems with the data on my device.
But one thing I have noticed that is happening frequently on my phone was... It gets stuck in 'G' (which I think is GPRS, worst than Edge). After a bit of analysis, I have realized, that when I get into and out of a tunnel (I take a subway to work), at times, my device does not get the 3G and stuck in G.
But once I reboot the phone, I am back to full signal.
Again, this DOES NOT always happen. Only once in a while.
On the whole I am actually VERY HAPPY with the data speeds. I was actually amazed to see how Netflix app was streaming movies seamlessly on my device with out any hiccups even while passing through areas where the coverage fluctuates from 3G to Edge and back.

conection
hi all, I have the following problem: buy a t-mobile hd7 released, I need to manually configure the 3G connection and I have that option. I live in Argentina and so far with my previous phones had no problems (hd2 htc, htc desire, xperia x10) thanks

I have noticed this issue too and I don't think it's t-mobile but on a positive note the web pages load up very fast.

Is Verizon Throttling based on Protocol?

In the past month or so, I've surpassed 15GB of data due to lots of video streaming and some torrent downloading. Since then, it seems that any time I try to download another torrent, my speeds are throttled to less than 10KB/s. I usually use ADownloader, and find it more convenient and (previously) much faster than from my home connection, but now when I resume a torrent, ALL data suffers, and am unable to even browse the web or run a basic speed test without timing out. As soon as I pause/stop the download, speeds ramp back up. I should note that if I switch to Wifi, and use my home connection, speeds come back up to what I would expect. So it doesn't appear to be an issue with the software.
I haven't noticed anyone pointing this out, but it does seem that they will throttle torrent users. What I don't understand is why throttle to such a ridiculously slow speed? At least bring me down to 3G speeds (~1MB/s). To drop me to less than 10KB/s is an insult.
What's next? Will they throttle heavy Netflix users? Amazon Prime streaming? etc. Is there really not enough bandwidth to go around? I might call Verizon to confirm/deny my findings so I can figure out what they actually care about. I have a feeling I'm not going to get a straight answer, or they will just not know what is actually taking place

Are you using tTorrent or another client that will randomize the port? Try picking another random port, it usually fixes it.
Those apps are not gentle on your wireless modems. I wouldn't necessarily assume it was Verizon doing it.

I had talked to a verizon customer service lady over the phone and asked her about throttling and she say there poloicy is to never throttle there customers connection. she uses her hot spot on here thunderbolt and exceeds 10g all the time and has never seen throttling so I would think more that it was your software like the aboved has mentioned

having a lot of simultaneous connections like torrents do can cause issues with the modem and wireless hardware, I've crashed my router a few times getting too torrent happy, I assume doing it with something that wasn't made really to handles such traffic would cause issues as well.

[Q] Three UK "Tethering Block" by-pass??

I'm on 3 paying £34/month for "all you can eat data".
I can tether (wi-fi hotspot), but as soon as I attempt to download a torrent it just cuts off my download and I need to reset my mobile data to get anything working again. (this happens when downloading a torrent on my phone also)
I can download through tethering but it seems to be capped at 100kb/sec for ROMs, etc from Safari.
Is there any way to by-pass this? Or will I have to just pay the £5/month extra?
I'm rooted, FWIW...
Thanks

Your on 3, on 3G, which is max 20mbps (mega bits) divide that by 8 to get your true download speed. Which is about 2.5MBps (Megabytes) your only getting 100KB (Kilobytes) that's crap.
What I would do is try your phone on a speed test in different places, so outside. In the city, at the shops etc. See what speeds you get, 3 is an awful network in all honesty. Chances are your only going to get about 7 -8 mbps (max) (megabits) meaning a download rate of 0.93MBps (Mega bytes) which is a lot more than what you have reported, speak with 3 and see what they say, just take a DEEEEEEEP breathe before phoning them, their customer services is utter #%%##%%#£
hope this helps
PS: unless you have made 3 aware of you tethering, they can and will block your tethered device, if you plan to hammer your connection, you will probably want to let them know, saying that I have a friend on 3 who hurts his connection daily and for a few years still hasnt been blocked. Yet another friend of mine got blocked for tethering his iPad for simple browsing.
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dladz said:
Your on 3, on 3G, which is max 20mbps (mega bits) divide that by 8 to get your true download speed. Which is about 2.5MBps (Megabytes) your only getting 100KB (Kilobytes) that's crap.
What I would do is try your phone on a speed test in different places, so outside. In the city, at the shops etc. See what speeds you get, 3 is an awful network in all honesty. Chances are your only going to get about 7 -8 mbps (max) (megabits) meaning a download rate of 0.93MBps (Mega bytes) which is a lot more than what you have reported, speak with 3 and see what they say, just take a DEEEEEEEP breathe before phoning them, their customer services is utter #%%##%%#£
hope this helps
PS: unless you have made 3 aware of you tethering, they can and will block your tethered device, if you plan to hammer your connection, you will probably want to let them know, saying that I have a friend on 3 who hurts his connection daily and for a few years still hasnt been blocked. Yet another friend of mine got blocked for tethering his iPad for simple browsing.
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Well, I get an 'H' connection 95% of the time, I'm usually getting around 9 -11mbps when I do speed tests - it's only when I tether to my laptop or download a torrent it gets sh*tty.
When I first got the phone a few weeks ago I downloaded a 2GB torrent on my phone with its mobile data connection with speeds up to 1.3Mb/sec, it finished in no-time, they've probably had this flag up and just capped me at 100kbps or something, as well as cut off torrents completely.
I just assumed all-you-can-eat would have included unlimited tethering - apparently not... But they are still letting me tether although it's not on my plan - for now, which is pretty cool.
Just came here to ask if there's a root app that would let me by-pass their restrictions before I pay the £5/month. :fingers-crossed:
I know, I've been with 3 before - I prefer a stress ball when I'm on the phone with them...

dladz said:
Your on 3, on 3G, which is max 20mbps (mega bits) divide that by 8 to get your true download speed. Which is about 2.5MBps (Megabytes) your only getting 100KB (Kilobytes) that's crap.
What I would do is try your phone on a speed test in different places, so outside. In the city, at the shops etc. See what speeds you get, 3 is an awful network in all honesty. Chances are your only going to get about 7 -8 mbps (max) (megabits) meaning a download rate of 0.93MBps (Mega bytes) which is a lot more than what you have reported, speak with 3 and see what they say, just take a DEEEEEEEP breathe before phoning them, their customer services is utter #%%##%%#£
hope this helps
PS: unless you have made 3 aware of you tethering, they can and will block your tethered device, if you plan to hammer your connection, you will probably want to let them know, saying that I have a friend on 3 who hurts his connection daily and for a few years still hasnt been blocked. Yet another friend of mine got blocked for tethering his iPad for simple browsing.
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium
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Three filter all p2p connections on there network it's called traffic filtering and it is pretty aggressive, they do this to increase the overall network speed so it doesn't get bogged down with everybody torrenting.
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redbull123 said:
Well, I get an 'H' connection 95% of the time, I'm usually getting around 9 -11mbps when I do speed tests - it's only when I tether to my laptop or download a torrent it gets sh*tty.
When I first got the phone a few weeks ago I downloaded a 2GB torrent on my phone with its mobile data connection with speeds up to 1.3Mb/sec, it finished in no-time, they've probably had this flag up and just capped me at 100kbps or something, as well as cut off torrents completely.
I just assumed all-you-can-eat would have included unlimited tethering - apparently not... But they are still letting me tether although it's not on my plan - for now, which is pretty cool.
Just came here to ask if there's a root app that would let me by-pass their restrictions before I pay the £5/month. :fingers-crossed:
I know, I've been with 3 before - I prefer a stress ball when I'm on the phone with them...
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No app will allow you to pass three's traffic filtering, it's much the same as slowing speeds down at peak times so the network doesn't get stressed and slow down.
I'm pretty sure the £5 per month tethering bundle wouldn't help your downloading speeds while tethered either as the traffic filter still applies it just allows you to share your internet connection with other devices without breaching your terms and conditions within the contract.
Edit: You could try an app called Orbot (a port of Tor) which helps hide your traffic and see if that helps.
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Kstarz said:
No app will allow you to pass three's traffic filtering, it's much the same as slowing speeds down at peak times so the network doesn't get stressed and slow down.
I'm pretty sure the £5 per month tethering bundle wouldn't help your downloading speeds while tethered either as the traffic filter still applies it just allows you to share your internet connection with other devices without breaching your terms and conditions within the contract.
Edit: You could try an app called Orbot (a port of Tor) which helps hide your traffic and see if that helps.
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Thanks for this seems to be working fine now - downloading file speeds around 700 - 800 kbps. I will probably hardly ever use it but nice to know it works if I need it to...
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Kstarz said:
Three filter all p2p connections on there network it's called traffic filtering and it is pretty aggressive, they do this to increase the overall network speed so it doesn't get bogged down with everybody torrenting.
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I was not aware of that
Thanks.

redbull123 said:
I'm on 3 paying £34/month for "all you can eat data".
I can tether (wi-fi hotspot), but as soon as I attempt to download a torrent it just cuts off my download and I need to reset my mobile data to get anything working again. (this happens when downloading a torrent on my phone also)
I can download through tethering but it seems to be capped at 100kb/sec for ROMs, etc from Safari.
Is there any way to by-pass this? Or will I have to just pay the £5/month extra?
I'm rooted, FWIW...
Thanks
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I have the issue here in HK, the easiest way to bypass this is by setting up a VPN service. Once all your network traffic is going through the VPN tunnel, 3 won't be able to filter anything, as all they would see would be VPN traffic. :laugh:

g2525 said:
I have the issue here in HK, the easiest way to bypass this is by setting up a VPN service. Once all your network traffic is going through the VPN tunnel, 3 won't be able to filter anything, as all they would see would be VPN traffic. :laugh:
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Can't they just slow down VPN traffic as well?

danieljamie said:
Can't they just slow down VPN traffic as well?
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Yes they can, but realistically, they won't.
VPN is used for all sorts of different things (business and personal), and so, there is no way they can block all VPN traffic without causing a PR disaster.
To the ISP, all VPN traffic will look like VPN traffic, they can't distinguish it between p2p VPN traffic and say Youtube VPN traffic.
Also, there is more than one type of VPN protocol, so blocking all of them will again be pretty difficult as well.

tethering
If you got a android device. On playstore theres a app called orbot. I use it with torrent downloads as i had same problem as you. With orbot. Neverget a tether warning and need to reboot

wainsie said:
If you got a android device. On playstore theres a app called orbot. I use it with torrent downloads as i had same problem as you. With orbot. Neverget a tether warning and need to reboot
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It's people like you that ruin Tor.

Three tether and hotspot fix
Check my post here. this might work for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62315904&postcount=907