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Hey guys,
Last night I installed ROM Manager and ClockworkMod Recovery on my Roger's Samsung Captivate and proceeded to watch some YouTube videos on how it works. It would appear that this app has made flashing extremely easy. Too easy one might say.
My question is: Is flashing via ROM Manager safe? Better? Or not, compared to the "old school" method?
Any feedback on ROM Manager or flashing in general for my i896 Captivate would be much appreciated!
TheShamsMan said:
Hey guys,
Last night I installed ROM Manager and ClockworkMod Recovery on my Roger's Samsung Captivate and proceeded to watch some YouTube videos on how it works. It would appear that this app has made flashing extremely easy. Too easy one might say.
My question is: Is flashing via ROM Manager safe? Better? Or not, compared to the "old school" method?
Any feedback on ROM Manager or flashing in general for my i896 Captivate would be much appreciated!
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I'd say Rom Manager is downright essential, but your mileage may vary. Besides the uber easy flashes there are a number of utility type things it does, not least of which is it gives us cappy users the ability to make nandroid backups.
As far as safe? As safe as any other method I guess. If you do your homework and the Rom's cook has his/her shizzle together (and most of them do.) you should be good using it to flash.
You'll find with some of the newer kernels that a modified CWM is actually replacing the stock 2e/3e recovery also, so it's not a terrible idea to get familiar with it a bit first.
Just some thoughts, hope they help.
Thanks for the reply dude!
Does ROM Manager automatically present users with the option to backup their existing ROM before proceeding with a flash?
I attempted to back up my current ROM with ROM Manager. It rebooted into a recovery menu, but non of them gave me the option to back up. Just wipe and reboot (can't remember the exact options). Is it possible the Captivate is no supported? How would I enable nandroid for Captivate?
TheShamsMan said:
Thanks for the reply dude!
Does ROM Manager automatically present users with the option to backup their existing ROM before proceeding with a flash?
I attempted to back up my current ROM with ROM Manager. It rebooted into a recovery menu, but non of them gave me the option to back up. Just wipe and reboot (can't remember the exact options). Is it possible the Captivate is no supported? How would I enable nandroid for Captivate?
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You open the app and tap flash clockwork recovery, select your phone, and it will proceed to reboot into recovery mode. At this time, you move down to reinstall packages, and it will then load clockwork recovery. It is from there that you can make your nandroid backup.
miztaken1312 said:
You open the app and tap flash clockwork recovery, select your phone, and it will proceed to reboot into recovery mode. At this time, you move down to reinstall packages, and it will then load clockwork recovery. It is from there that you can make your nandroid backup.
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What he said. It sometimes chokes on loading itself. It puts a file named update.zip on your sdcard. When you get to the blue menu (2e recovery) you select reinstall packages and it should load right up. Sometimes it will reboot and get stuck there again. Just do it again and it'll come up.
Yes, before you flash through rom manager it asks you if you want to do a backup. You'll find over time tho that you'll just go straight to clockworkmod and skip the whole rom manager thing. At least I did. And if you go to one of the kernels with the modified cwm in place of the recovery menu rebooting to recovery with rom manager will bring you to the wrong one. The modified has extra stuff like lag fixes and that sort of thing that the original cwm doesn't have.
Yeah. So far, I find it easier to just use ROM Manager to boot into Recovery and do everything else from there.
I like how it only presents you with ROMs available for your specific device. I look forward to the list populating for the Captivate. It's currently empty.
You open the app and tap flash clockwork recovery, select your phone, and it will proceed to reboot into recovery mode. At this time, you move down to reinstall packages, and it will then load clockwork recovery. It is from there that you can make your nandroid backup.
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the very first time i did this clicked reboot instead of reinstall packages. (i have fat thumbs) now every time i do 'tap flash clockwork recovery' instead of rebooting it just says 'successfully downloaded clockworkmod recovery'. how am i supposed to reinstall if i cant get to the option to do so?
im using a rooted captivate.
"Reinstall Packages" is in Android Recovery. When you perform the action "Flash Clockwork Recovery", you are downloading update.zip (which is Clockwork). "Reinstall packages" will install that update.zip and bring you into Clockwork.
So for you nawlage, now you can select "Reboot into Recovery" in ROM Manager, and your phone should boot into Android Recovery (blue text). Once there, reinstall packages (you'll probably have to do this twice), and you'll be brought to Clockwork Recovery (green text). If for WHATEVER reason "Reboot into Recovery" isn't working for you, use the 3-button combo to boot into Android Recovery.
thanks a load. i had just read this... posted by big99gt:
After these steps you won't really have to "hack" your phone lol. Root your phone and download Rom Manager from the Android market...then have it flash a recovery (the first selection at the top) choose your device when prompted. Now after that finishes select "reboot into recovery" and as the above post states you may need to select "reinstall packages" (I did). Once that goes through, you'll see your new custom recovery menu. DO A NANDROID BACKUP of your current Rom as soon as you can....then (as long as your current rom isn't messed up, if its stock your fine) from there on out you can play as much as you want with very little risk of bricking your phone. There are others who can explain it better but your stuck with me till they chime in lol. Its a very easy process and nearly foolproof.
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..and did just that. and it takes me to the clockwork recovery (green text). because of this i dont have to reinstall packages?
also, is the backup option in clockwork recovery (green text) equivalent to nandroid backup?
Once you are in Clockwork Recovery (green text), there is no more need to reinstall packages.
The "Backup Current ROM" in ROM Manager makes a nandroid backup.
very nice. two thanks for you. thank you.
Ive been flashing roms for some time, though this is my first attempt on the captivate.
Followed the instructions np.
Using rom manager backed up my stock rom.
made sure it saved to sd.
used titanium made sure all apps were backed up.
downloaded cogs newest version.
opened rom manager selected flash for captivate.
turned phone off.
rebooted into rom manager
wiped phone via directions.
selected cog via sd card
now Ive been sitting at the installing update window for roughly 20 minutes without the progress bar moving at all...
any advice?
I did just do a battery pull and it seems that im back to att stock. No rom.
ive just tried running it again and I just sit at installing update...
I did have ryan zas oclf on prior and I dont know if I removed. however since Im back to stock now shouldnt it be gone?
Wouldnt be able to prevent it now would it?
Been there done that
Usb debugging, enable it
Simple mistake man, no big deal
From a phone
Well turning on usb debug wasnt it but i did reinstall oclf and it shows its still active batteries just to low to remow waiting...
Ok any othet ideas? Oclf says its not inthe one running its a different one. Guess ill try to reflash agafin and install anyone else got an idea?
Finding
opening
installing
then it just sits forever
anyone?
Try to download the file again, it may have been corrupted during download
Edit...not clear are you booting into recovery, selecting the rom zip file, etc or actually rebooting phone and going into rom manager?
You need to boot into recovery and select the zip there if you are not doing it that way
Correct im in recovery and selecting it.
Download the stock ODIN 1 click and flash that then re-root and install ROM manager and then flash COG
sadly ive done this also.
used odin one click last night went back to stock then rooted again and tried and it still just sat at the installing line for an hour.
something is not working and I cannot figure it out.
1. make sure you move the zip (as you downloaded it, don't unzip) to the root of your sdcard.
2. open rom manager, flash CWM if you haven't already.
3. using rom manager, backup your current stuff under a name you'll recognize
4. turn off phone. boot into recovery
5. if it shows the 2e or 3e recovery, choose the 2nd option: "install update.zip", this should open up CWM recovery
6. from CWM recovery, go down to "install zip from sdcard"
7. then: "choose zip from sdcard"
8. then you select the zip that you moved to your sdcard in STEP 1.
that should do it.
waikuk said:
1. make sure you move the zip (as you downloaded it, don't unzip) to the root of your sdcard.
2. open rom manager, flash CWM if you haven't already.
3. using rom manager, backup your current stuff under a name you'll recognize
4. turn off phone. boot into recovery
5. if it shows the 2e or 3e recovery, choose the 2nd option: "install update.zip", this should open up CWM recovery
6. from CWM recovery, go down to "install zip from sdcard"
7. then: "choose zip from sdcard"
8. then you select the zip that you moved to your sdcard in STEP 1.
that should do it.
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every step done. Even a odin flash to stock prior. Locks up every time at installing update, it will sit there all night.
Thought I was reading on Cog's latest build a few people having issues installing using the latest ROM Manager and CWM.
I think this is the older version of the update.zip and maybe it will install Cog.
Also you can bypass the whole rooting/dowloading ROM Manager prior to flashing if you use this update.zip.
Odin 1-Click back to stock.
Put in the update.zip to your SDCard
Reboot into recovery.
Run the update.zip under recovery.
It will do a short reboot back to the screen.
Run it once more and you should be in Clockwork Recovery advanced menu.
Attempt to install the Cog.zip again and see if it works.
Unfort I'm running Assonance's latest build and didn't run into any issues.
Going to try it in a bit.
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Going to try it in a bit.
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Check out the wiki thread for adam's Axura ROM. The process should be the same, just use the ROM of your choice. I'd try another download/different ROM, there may be an issue with your download, or a bug in the ROM possibly?
http://thwackd.com/axura/wiki/index.php?title=How-To:_Flash_Axura_CE_ROM
waikuk said:
1. make sure you move the zip (as you downloaded it, don't unzip) to the root of your sdcard.
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I screwed up before by forgetting to move the zip to the root of my sdcard. I don't quite understand why this is necessary, but I can confirm that it is.
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Going to try it in a bit.
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Two suggestions - not sure if you've already attempted these.
1. Have you tried flashing an older version of Cognition? Possible that there is just something silly about your setup that is preventing you from flashing this specific version.
2. Along the same lines, have you tried flashing to Cognition using one of the Odin flashable ROMs? I'm personally a bit mystified by these, but I'm just a wimpy Mac user.
Older versions of Cognition here.
The version of CWM rom manager downloads should be okay. A master clear and stock fhlash should help
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so i went to download mode and flashed back stock with odin i896 rogers,
rooted the phone was going to install firefly rom. But when i downloaded rom manager and tried to do the captivate clockworkmod flash it doesnt work. I have tried using a update.zip and everything from 3e recovery pressed the reinstall packages doesnt work. I have tried to copy the recovery file to the system/bin and stuff, still doesnt work. Any way to fix this.
Also, i saw in the reviews everybody with a captivate is having issues with that TODAY.
anybody know how to fix this? I have tried a recovery file replacement and all that doesnt work? Anybody? I have read other threads about this those files dont work...
If you have 3rd recovery issues. You need either get into download mode and odin to your stock firmware or use odin to flash a kernel with recovery built in using the standalone odin. I know that firebird offers an odin flashable kernel which you could use.
is their a way to downgrade from 3e to 2e, to be able to flash? for rogers 2.2?
What are you even talking about, in terms of 3e and 2e?
Just flash back to stock ROM, put update.zip in your root of storage, and once you've done that, reinstall packages TWICE, by now you should be in a green menu, this is the Clockwork Recovery menu. Using the volume keys and the power button, navigate to 'Install from .zip from sdcard', and select the ROM you want to install. Once you've done that, all you have to do is reselect it to confirm.
If that doesn't work, or it's telling you something funny when you try to install, your .zip is corrupt and you might need to redownload it.
I believe you can use sgs kernel flasher app to flash a new kernel. I would suggest which ever fire fly uses. This will fix your recovery and allow j you to flash the rom
i think this is a server issue with rom manager, because captivate cwm flash isnt working, i will try later.
If you have 3e recovery this won't make difference
this is a known issue of recovery 3e - signature issue.
you can do the followings for flashing the rom:
1. copy the update.zip to your sdcard root folder;
2. shut down your phone and use key combo to boot into recovery mode;
3. apply the change twice to get into cwm;
4. select your rom zip file and flash the rom;
mengbo said:
this is a known issue of recovery 3e - signature issue.
you can do the followings for flashing the rom:
1. copy the update.zip to your sdcard root folder;
2. shut down your phone and use key combo to boot into recovery mode;
3. apply the change twice to get into cwm;
4. select your rom zip file and flash the rom;
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if you are on 3e recovery...you can apply the update.zip a million times but it wont work .....
need to be on a modded 3e recovery that allows unsigned zips or on 2e recovery...
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if you are on 3e recovery...you can apply the update.zip a million times but it wont work .....
need to be on a modded 3e recovery that allows unsigned zips or on 2e recovery...
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since he is on the stock rom, using key combo will get him into the stock recovery and apply the changes will work for him if using the correct update.zip.
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since he is on the stock rom, using key combo will get him into the stock recovery and apply the changes will work for him if using the correct update.zip.
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not everyones 'stock' is 2.1 with 2e recovery....maybe he just got his phone from rogers and it had 2.2 on it already. considering in his first post he says hes already on stock rom and it has 3e recovery.....
to clear it up, im on rogers 2.2, i was on stock from kies then flashed to firefly with ease when i did the recovery file change, the problem i think is you know the first button u click in rom manager it isnt downloading the thing. Last time i downloaded it for captivate did the switch and worked, this time i think the server is offline.
i flashed from firefly to stock, the/now the recovery...^^^^^^^^
Owais1437 said:
to clear it up, im on rogers 2.2, i was on stock from kies then flashed to firefly with ease when i did the recovery file change, the problem i think is you know the first button u click in rom manager it isnt downloading the thing. Last time i downloaded it for captivate did the switch and worked, this time i think the server is offline.
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if you did the recovery file change so that you bypass 3e recovery signature verification, just drop the update.zip onto your /sdcard/
you dont need to use ROM manager for anything
how do you get into recovery mode on a i897 the phone is just rooted
which update.zip? theres a bunch
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how do you get into recovery mode on a i897 the phone is just rooted
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Three button combo
Phone off
Volume up and down and power
At&t comes on
Let go
it worked! flashing firefly as im typin this, i used the update.zip i attached.
mounted sd card (internal) and put it as update( i dont think i put zip)
and put in the recovery file with root manager into system/bin replaced it and
then flashed into recovery from rom manager and did reinstall packages twice and it worked. Thanks for the info ^^^^^^everybody.
I've never flashed a rom before. I currently have stock froyo with the paragon kernel i flashed using the app sgs kernel flasher. I have clockwork mod rom manager, I created a backup of my current rom. So then I tried installing the serendipity rom from the sd card but i get an error message. I read on the sticky on how to flash a custom ROM you need to use ODIN and flash back to stock 2.1 then do a master wipe and re root it and stuff.
Their link to download ODIN is broken so I don't know how to get it. And is there really no other way to flash it besides doing a master wipe and using ODIN?
flash to stock and master clear is not needed. what IS needed are specifics on WHAT error message you get when trying to flash the rom you want
The error message is
"E: failed to verify whole-file signature"
"E: signature verification failed"
"Installation aborted"
Then it brings be to the blue menu so i just select reboot system now
bad download, re-download rom.
May be completely off, but it doesn't sound like you're actually in clockwork mod recovery, but rather stock recovery.
But here's the post with the one click odin with mirrors and I personally would suggest useing it since I generally like to stick to as clean a flash as I can:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Second, I don't know if you've ever seen MobileTechVids tutorial on how to flash custom roms, but I suggest you watch the full series first if you haven't already.
here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsafJ-9uRqk
I watch the series and try and stick as close to the tut as I can when I'm unsure (or the one provided by the Rom maker as they know what's best for their rom)...
One suggestion, when flashing Serendipity disconnect your phone from cable right before the actual flashing (gave me a glitch in which I couldn't mount storage via usb). Other than that, read read read. I feel it's all I do when it comes to this stuff, but proper research is indispensible.
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May be completely off, but it doesn't sound like you're actually in clockwork mod recovery, but rather stock recovery.
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Is the text on Recovery mode blue or green? If its blue, you're on stock recovery.
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Ok I got the stock rom flashed back and rooted it using one click. Now for some reason I can't reboot into clockwork recovery mode. I flashed it successfully. So i click on reboot into recovery and nothing happens. I try clicking on install room from sd card and that doesnt work either
Power off, hold 3 buttons att screen will come on. Keep holding. Screen will go off. Keep holding. Screen comes on again let off the power button but keep the volumes held, this will boot you into stock recovery, since you said you flashed cwm already I'm assuming you mean with rom manager, so the update.zip should be on your sdcard, so just reinstall packages twice and you should boot into cwm.
AIO tools work well and make flashing roms for new people easy and painless
use a search for it
steph2 said:
AIO tools work well and make flashing roms for new people easy and painless
use a search for it
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+1.
AIO and superoneclick for root/flashing roms makes the process much easier.
crag11 said:
Ok I got the stock rom flashed back and rooted it using one click. Now for some reason I can't reboot into clockwork recovery mode. I flashed it successfully. So i click on reboot into recovery and nothing happens. I try clicking on install room from sd card and that doesnt work either
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On serendipities main "download" page they have instructions to install. In those instructions is a link to a file you can download. Place that file along with the serendipity 6.3.zip file in the root of your sd card. Use the " 3 button" technique or Rom managers "reboot to recovery" option to get into stock recovery. Hit "reinstall packages" once/possibly twice. That will put you into clockwork mod recovery. Select install zip from sd card, find the serendipity6.3.zip and click power to flash. Confirm. And after it does some stuff it will ask you to reboot. Upon reboot it will as if you want to enable lagfix. Hit plain "Yes". Watch it do its thing and viola...
You have the "dirty" way of how to flash serendipity... But first I please ask you to spend atleast a day reading this forum or others and understanding these instructions and the reasons behind them.
followed instructions off the website and still doesn't work
I was running 2.2 and have done a lot of reading a video watching (thanks Mobile Tech videos) and finally conjured the guts to flash serendipity.
I flashed stock using odin...that went great. Copied the update.zip to sd card. Installed zip twice in 2e recovery. Copied Serendipity.zip file to sd card. started in recovery mode, selected "install from sdcard" selected serendipity.zip file and it seemed to go through that process rather quickly. Then I selected reboot and then everything just started FCing all over the place. Can't even load the stock that I had on there. I don't know what to do. Help please. I can get it back into recovery mode. Tried doing the wipe data/factory reset. That did help either. Help please. I really want to try serendipity. Thanks again in advanced.
Did you run a restore using TiBu at all? Or was it just a straight flash from stock to Serendipity?
Plus, were you running a phone that came with 2.2 out of the box? Or did you upgrade to stock Froyo yourself?
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Did you run a restore using TiBu at all? Or was it just a straight flash from stock to Serendipity?
Plus, were you running a phone that came with 2.2 out of the box? Or did you upgrade to stock Froyo yourself?
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I did run TB and I had originally flashed up to froyo (took me all night one night) and then went through the process I explained and hit the dead end. I finally was able to get odin to read the phone and flash back to stock. It was a learning process. I realized that I needed not only the Serendipity_6.3.zip file but ALSO the kitchen file to included with it. That wasn't in the directions I don't think. Finally got it all on there. I love it now. I appreciate everyone's help. Any word on a how-to for Bluedipity?
How do i flash a rom? I see there is an AmonRa recovery for the Droid Eris that doesn't require a trackball....is there something similar for the Nexus One?!
My current rom doesn't let me add an account, the trackball doesn't work and the home button and search button are a little weird.
I need help! x/
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How do i flash a rom? I see there is an AmonRa recovery for the Droid Eris that doesn't require a trackball....is there something similar for the Nexus One?!
My current rom doesn't let me add an account, the trackball doesn't work and the home button and search button are a little weird.
I need help! x/
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You'll need the trackball for Amon Ra and CWM too IIRC.
i figured it out!
download this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1291970
it installs an app that will install recovery and also allow you to create a script to run in recovery.
so if your trackball doesn't work, you don't have to select anything in recovery, just do everything from within android itself.
be sure to go through the options and allow SUPERWIPE to be included in the options. it's the best route because you can't wipe DATA 3 times with this method!
If you are already rooted, ROM Manager lets you boot directly into the recovery!
If you are running a modded ROM right now, the power off menu will have an option where you can boot in recovery too
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If you are already rooted, ROM Manager lets you boot directly into the recovery!
If you are running a modded ROM right now, the power off menu will have an option where you can boot in recovery too
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The problem is once you get into recovery, you need to use the trackball to select your items. His trackball isn't working.
ROM manager actually lets you do pretty much everything from within the booted OS. You can download and flash ROMs, change recoveries, make and restore from backups, etc.
I don't think you can do custom kernels (i.e. something other than what comes with whatever ROM you choose)...but actually, you might be able to. If you choose "Install ROM from SD card," it will let you choose any zip file. I don't know if it performs a check to see if the zip file is a rom or not, but if this menu entry merely tells CWM (the recovery) to install that zip file, you're good on ROMs too.