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Galaxy S - not as expected

People have been saying that the Galaxy S actually come close to be an iPhone killer. Or it already has that I'm not sure of. But after using the SGS for almost a year now, I do feel that it is slow. Much much slower than iPhones.
However, it is okay if they aren't many apps. Everytime my SGS slows down, I would resort to factory reset and it would be okay until I start spamming downloads again.
This is totally contradictory to the iPhone. The lags I experience isn't major though. But it is annoying for sure and comparing to iPhones, I always feel like my phone is somehow underpowered. Anyone has the same experience? By the way, I'm using stock 2.3.4 JVQ.

You are right and wrong.
Sgs is not slow.
Based on your descrioption it appears that your problem only apears after you have installed lot of apps. I would bet this is because a lot of these apps have services running and auto load at startup.
The android platform's implementation of true multitasking does inherently introduce issues like lags when when critical resources like memory is depleted. Sgs only has 512mb ram. So when lots of services run in the background, it slows down and although it tries to free up ram, it can overwhelmed when all those apps tries to restart itself.
Task killers / autostarts app / kernel and tunings can only do so much based on my experience.
Best option is to be more selective with app download and what you really want to keep on the phone.
IPhone doesn't have true multitasking thus don't havr the same issue and appears faster. Of course the UI is GPU accelerated which helps.
So really depends how much you yourself multitask at then of the day and whether you need it. Many don't and thus find iPhone ideal.
Ice cream sandwich will bring gpu acceleration mainstream to android.
Still loving my sgs. I have an ipad2 which I also love but squirm when I wanted it to multitask.
My 2 cents sharing
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I started answering OP's question, but I it's pretty much the same thing you said...
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I started answering OP's question, but I it's pretty much the same thing you said...
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LOL same here

Personal opinion - I enjoy customizing the phone, flashing and changing things, right now I'm on MIUI Mint Berry Edition 1.10.28 and it's fast, behaves very well and I really can´t complain.
If you don't like customizing and "owning" your phone, that way I believe you would prefer the Iphone because in terms of sock stuff it behaves very well.
Those are different phones, people have different taste you have pros and cons on both sides

vash_stanped said:
Personal opinion - I enjoy customizing the phone, flashing and changing things, right now I'm on MIUI Mint Berry Edition 1.10.28 and it's fast, behaves very well and I really can´t complain.
If you don't like customizing and "owning" your phone, that way I believe you would prefer the Iphone because in terms of sock stuff it behaves very well.
Those are different phones, people have different taste you have pros and cons on both sides
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This man knows his stuff.

Apple clock their processors very high but Samsung don't. That's why many people report their iPod touch or their iPhone getting very hot and then starts smoking. I read on a tech site nearly 10 months ago that a Guy bought a iPod touch and some days later while listening music it started smoking then he went to apple store aand they gave him a new one , this happened to that Guy 4 Times and he got a new i pod touch everytime and had loose his data again and again everytime they gave him a new one. You can call that Guy unlucky but still it happened to him, so apple just wants to get the best out of their devices even though they start burning and you can cook food on them. I use doctorz rom and haven't faced even a single lag on the latest v8.1
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Apple clock their processors very high but Samsung don't. That's why many people report their iPod touch or their iPhone getting very hot and then starts smoking. I read on a tech site nearly 10 months ago that a Guy bought a iPod touch and some days later while listening music it started smoking then he went to apple store aand they gave him a new one , this happened to that Guy 4 Times and he got a new i pod touch everytime and had loose his data again and again everytime they gave him a new one. You can call that Guy unlucky but still it happened to him, so apple just wants to get the best out of their devices even though they start burning and you can cook food on them. I use doctorz rom and haven't faced even a single lag on the latest v8.1
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Whoa.
I'm pretty sure Apple underclocks more than overclocks the majority of their devices. I read that the iPhone 4S, for example, was underclocked to 800MHz (from 1000MHz, I'm assuming).

I don't think so it maybe different for iPhone 4s. As its dual core also has more ram.
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BHuvan goyal said:
I don't think so it maybe different for iPhone 4s. As its dual core also has more ram.
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I don't know if Wikipedia is a good enough source for you, but it says so right under the Wikipedia article for Underclocking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underclocking
"Most smartphones and PDAs, such as the Motorola Droid, Palm Pre, and Apple iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s, use the "underclocking" of a more powerful processor, rather than the full clocking of a less powerful processor, to maximize battery life. The designers for such mobile devices often discover that a slower processor gives worse battery life than a more powerful processor at a lower clock rate. They select a processor on the basis of the performance per watt of the processor."
I'm sure you could find more credible sources if you googled it.

smiles.smiley said:
People have been saying that the Galaxy S actually come close to be an iPhone killer. Or it already has that I'm not sure of. But after using the SGS for almost a year now, I do feel that it is slow. Much much slower than iPhones.
However, it is okay if they aren't many apps. Everytime my SGS slows down, I would resort to factory reset and it would be okay until I start spamming downloads again.
This is totally contradictory to the iPhone. The lags I experience isn't major though. But it is annoying for sure and comparing to iPhones, I always feel like my phone is somehow underpowered. Anyone has the same experience? By the way, I'm using stock 2.3.4 JVQ.
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If you want smoothness and no lag, just flash froyo 2.2.1.

disclaimernotice said:
If you want smoothness and no lag, just flash froyo 2.2.1.
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I keep hearing this and i want to try it for myself which froyo rom would you recommend?

I heard that a lot too. But I have friends running on 2.2.1 asked me to help them to get their device to 2.3.3/2.3.4. The reason they gave me was that their phones are much laggier than mine.

[Q] iPhone 4 vs Captivate fluidity

I'm wonder what would is the reason behind the fluidity of the iPhone 4 ?
I got the captivate and most of friends got the iPhone 4 in, relatively, the same time.
The performance of their phones is superior to mine even though both phones have the mostly the same specifications !
BTW, I'm using CM7.

simply put, iphone is one OS meant specifically for one phone, developed by professionals..
Android is an OS that is spread over hundreds of different models.. Its hard to make everything perfect when the devices are constantly different (especially when different models are running different versions of Android). It's also open source and has the potential to be better than iOS but needs more time to develop IMO. I think the base SDK is pretty solid but then the carriers do thier own "tweaks" etc and we lose some of the functionality.
The reason I prefer Android over iOS is the ability to customize it. Your friends wont be flashing custom software on thier iPhones which to me is half the fun of having a "smart" phone.

Also iOS doesn't offer real multitasking. Its how they both handle memory and cpu usage. I'm not a fan of Apple mobile's BUT I have to admit that for single tasking and simplicity (ish) iOS is better.

prbassplayer said:
Also iOS doesn't offer real multitasking. Its how they both handle memory and cpu usage. I'm not a fan of Apple mobile's BUT I have to admit that for single tasking and simplicity (ish) iOS is better.
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Android is fundamentally going to be slower than iOS just because of the way it's structured. And yeah, a lot of it has to do with the multitasking aspect. Android is much more like a PC than iOS is
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there is a thread about this from a couple days ago on the xda (news) portal about the comparison of android/ios multi-tasking, and info about it in a recent XDAtv episode.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
http://www.youtube.com/xdadevelopers#p/u/3/FFuWQyH3trg
you should check both daily for info on everything xda.

Thanks everyone for sharing these info
What about hardware acceleration. As I understood, ICS support full HW acceleration. So does the iOS offer the same feature ?
If so, does would we witness a change in the performance of ICS ?

do your own research.
use google. its new but it works pretty good.....

AhmadAlmousa said:
Thanks everyone for sharing these info
What about hardware acceleration. As I understood, ICS support full HW acceleration. So does the iOS offer the same feature ?
If so, does would we witness a change in the performance of ICS ?
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https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/XAZ4CeVP6DC

Superior GPU, OpenGL, Hardware acceleration, software optimization for one architecture...it's really more than one, single thing. Android guys like to point at it not having "true" multitasking, but that's just not true. iOS can run apps in the background and it is just as easy to switch apps in iOS as it us Android.
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Hemlocke said:
Superior GPU, OpenGL, Hardware acceleration, software optimization for one architecture...it's really more than one, single thing. Android guys like to point at it not having "true" multitasking, but that's just not true. iOS can run apps in the background and it is just as easy to switch apps in iOS as it us Android.
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The multitasking that you speak off is false. It closes apps as it wishes and sometime blocks access to other apps. I'm not knocking it it works great for most ppl. I've used Iphone 4 for 6 months and It annoyed the hell out of me. The Gpu is exactly the same. Both ru PowerVR SGX 5 series (535 for Iphone, 540 for us). On paper ours is a tad better since it can process 20M triangles/s vs Iphones 14M/s. Hardware accel we do not have (for now).

I started to describe the 4s, which does have the best GPU in a mobile device. My bad. On paper the 540 is better, but the hardware accel of the 4 makes the 535 perform better. iOS doesn't randomly shut down apps, it prioritizes. The performance is still noticeably better, and you still have multitasking in much the same way you do on Android. As for the 4s, we will need quad-core processors and much better GPUs to see that kind of performance.
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After installing ICS on my Samsung Captivate, it's about 95% as smooth as an iPhone (which I sold to get this phone). I'm really impressed! The hardware acceleration makes a big difference.

It has made a difference on my NS, too, but there are still things I hope they improve.
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Hemlocke said:
It has made a difference on my NS, too, but there are still things I hope they improve.
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Having gone to a Verizon store and used the Galaxy Nexus, I can report that it's pretty much right on par with the iPhone as far as fluidity and responsiveness. The browser in particular is light years ahead of the one in Gingerbread or Froyo.
I think the apples-to-apples comparison on our devices with GB vs ICS shows that the software is mostly responsible for the enhanced responsiveness. Go Google!

kimosen said:
After installing ICS on my Samsung Captivate, it's about 95% as smooth as an iPhone (which I sold to get this phone). I'm really impressed! The hardware acceleration makes a big difference.
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After installing ICS on my Captivate, I have been thoroughly impressed with its responsiveness. Considering it is a port and the Devs have not had the source to work with, I was ecstatic to see this. Once they integrate the recently released source, I truly believe that even my "ancient" Captivate will rival the new iPhone.

They have had source for a while now...
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They have had source for a while now...
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+1. The Team Hacksung build already has the source integrated.

Given this is the best... Any other new ones out that can compare?

Hola
So i am one of those types of users that likes to indulge with new tech especially phones. Windows Phones are too limited, Apple is controlling (though yes the same can be said about Microsoft mobiles), so I am pleased that Google came out with an open platform.
Now that Sammy has brought out the Galaxy S2, which was a really excellent device, and afterwards the great Note, is there really anything better that we can expect soon? It's like we have hit the top edge with no where to go at all. None of the other OEM's can't seem to make decent phones to compete...
What is your opinion?
So what you want me to do 'bout that?

Probably a bit premature to make that pronouncement as most tech is quickly out of date but am guessing this was for discussion
Am looking forward to Tegra3 quad core coming out to mobiles (check out the Transformer Prime), increased cpu and gpu speeds with ics, improved battery life, faster internet speeds 4g or more.
i saw a tech demo where a guy connected his galaxy nexus to a monitor, bluetooth keyboard and trackpad, and mouse and used that as his main computer.
also hoping for a galaxy note the size of an 8.9 tab with the notes' digitizer.
Lots more to look forward to.

huawei announced a quad-core with 16 graphics cores at mwc 2012.
looks like we still have a way to go just yet, most likely lower power consumption.
i wouldnt let that stop anyone from purchasing a galaxy note though. in my opinion it is by far the best android phone currently on the market.

htc one x...quad core tegra 3..awesum device...beats the note in every benchmark
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jai147 said:
htc one x...quad core tegra 3..awesum device...beats the note in every benchmark
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Personally I find huge amounts of processing-power quite meaningless on a mobile device, it's useful only if you play lots of games. If one could slap the mobile on a dock and turn it into a full desktop then it would be a different matter, then all the processing-power would actually start to make sense.
I just hope one or another manufacturer does come out with a mobile with a good dock and properly-supported desktop OS, there is no such a solution available yet.

Good thing I use my phone for real life applications like videos, Web surfing, drawing etc and not benchmarks then, and there the note is by far better.
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htc one x...quad core tegra 3..awesum device...beats the note in every benchmark
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except screen size!!!

jai147 said:
htc one x...quad core tegra 3..awesum device...beats the note in every benchmark
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So you like messing with quad-core on a passive-cooling device?
Tell me more about its usefullness on a longer period of useage.
Also to point out the Note actually does what its supposed to with the S-Pen, taking notes on the spot.

'Ubuntu for Android' is a usage scenario that will warrant quad-core processing. Check it out on the Ubuntu site.
Some manufacturers argue that quad-cores use less energy due to lower clock speeds, and shorter utilisation times. I know nothing about hardware though so I couldn't argue for or against this mindset.
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htc one x...quad core tegra 3..awesum device...beats the note in every benchmark
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Benchmarks = donkey turds
From the big ole Note

The Galaxy Note is now what was the HD2 then... the top performing AND
customizable phone for almost 2 years running. HD2 is still a top-phone, considering it will run anything from winmo 6.5, WP7, Android 2.3 on SD and in NAND, as well as ICS, ubuntu etc.
This fossile HD2 still runs my ubuntu in the car pretty darn fast!
You just know when such a "long lasting gadget" is released, if your blood runs a datastream and your hart pumps in cycles.
SonyWalkMan,C=64,Amiga500,PortableMp3player,Any1,8Ghz laptop, HTC HD2, Galaxy Note, Porsche 911.
You just know.

[RSRCH] OB P970 Software research

So, i have been secretly venturing deep inside P970. So this is what i have found:
These are two phones specs:
Optimus Black
1GHz ARMv7 Rev71 Proccessor
Two Types
FOP CM9 SUPERCHARGED
CM7 SUPERCHARGED, KICKEDASS KERNELISED & 3G SUPERCHARGED
iPhone 4S
1GHz Dual Core A5 chip (UV To 800MHz)
iOS 6 Beta 3
These reviews will be against Apple iPhone. (Apple will be the hit ratio)
GRAPHICS
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The Optimus black's Graphics rendering is the same as iPhone 4.
After bringing it to CM7, It renders thrice as fast, almost reaching the 4S
9/10 = So after ICS(FOP) it surpassed the 4S. But you will need to Supercharge.
SPEED
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The TI OMAP 3630 Is our hatred. It has caused many problems for us but was the best of its kind a year ago. What renders it useless in ICS?? The styroscopic Driver, which has caused Camera issues. But in overall, it is fast with a maximum 1GHz of speed
The iPhone 4S' Dual Core A5 Chip, Renders itself the fastest of its kind. But sadly, it is reduced of its maximum performance to 800MHz from 1GHz to conserve battery life. In overall, the OB has an advantage of 200MHz. But in reality, A5 Chip has something unknown inside to render its speed much faster than a 800MHz capable Chip. Making the 4S a tie with OB.
10/10 = At CM7 SUPERCHARGED
NETWORKING
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OB, Like any other phone, is capable of CDMA and GSM. But is so common. Therefore it shall lose in this comparison.
The 4S has 2 antennaes that can intelligently switch between each other for downloads, reaching a 4G capable phone speed. This makes OB Lose upside down. BUT. THE 4S GETS OWNED THIS TIME BY 3G SUPERCHARGER. Bringing OB up to 32MBps and winning an LTE Speed.
12/10 = CM7 3G SUPERCHARGED.
More will be up!! Suggest whatever category you want and i will stage a test immediately!
Next up:
RAM
BOOT SPEED
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I wanna know how to supercharge.... ive tried so hard, someone should just include it in their roms or someone should work on an easy package so we can have SOMETHING to look forward to while camera is being impossible

Dude... what is this? Everyone knows the iPhone 4s is better than the LG OB, example: gaming and performance and the screen. The iPhone can run all games very smooth and iOS is just simply smooth. So why compare them? If you had the choise everyone, who has brains, would choose the 4s over the LG OB..
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wessyh0 said:
Dude... what is this? Everyone knows the iPhone 4s is better than the LG OB, example: gaming and performance and the screen. The iPhone can run all games very smooth and iOS is just simply smooth. So why compare them? If you had the choise everyone, who has brains, would choose the 4s over the LG OB..
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I wouldn't
And the 4s plays the games smooth becasue it is made for that specific device.
Not like android that has several 100 or even tousands devices.

RomWiz said:
I wouldn't
And the 4s plays the games smooth becasue it is made for that specific device.
Not like android that has several 100 or even tousands devices.
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You're crazy if you would choose a OB over a 4s.
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wessyh0 said:
You're crazy if you would choose a OB over a 4s.
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You're crazy to consider iPhone better than OB.
Games on iPhone/iPad are made specifically for these devices and, when you run a today game on an older iDevice, look closely at it, it will lag. A lot.
Games on Android are made for Resolutions (MDPI, HDPI, XHDPI, ...) and not for each specs (except for some CPUs, but again, not for specific devices) so it will run perfect on a SGS(hit) III, and will lag on OB, because of the lower specs (and in some case, because of the constructor firmware). Don't blame OB, blame Android. (But I love Android, I'm not saying here that it is a bad platform, it is by far the best one, far ahead iOS, WP, webOS, and other ones.)
I had the choice between an iPhone 4 and OB, and as every geek would do, I chose OB, not because of the specs, but because of Android.
That's the point.
Nobody is crazy or wrong, everyone is different.

Vinzgore said:
You're crazy to consider iPhone better than OB.
Games on iPhone/iPad are made specifically for these devices and, when you run a today game on an older iDevice, look closely at it, it will lag. A lot.
Games on Android are made for Resolutions (MDPI, HDPI, XHDPI, ...) and not for each specs (except for some CPUs, but again, not for specific devices) so it will run perfect on a SGS(hit) III, and will lag on OB, because of the lower specs (and in some case, because of the constructor firmware). Don't blame OB, blame Android. (But I love Android, I'm not saying here that it is a bad platform, it is by far the best one, far ahead iOS, WP, webOS, and other ones.)
I had the choice between an iPhone 4 and OB, and as every geek would do, I chose OB, not because of the specs, but because of Android.
That's the point.
Nobody is crazy or wrong, everyone is different.
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I'd have taken the 4s, sold it and bought a better android phone. :bbb

Vinzgore said:
You're crazy to consider iPhone better than OB.
Games on iPhone/iPad are made specifically for these devices and, when you run a today game on an older iDevice, look closely at it, it will lag. A lot.
Games on Android are made for Resolutions (MDPI, HDPI, XHDPI, ...) and not for each specs (except for some CPUs, but again, not for specific devices) so it will run perfect on a SGS(hit) III, and will lag on OB, because of the lower specs (and in some case, because of the constructor firmware). Don't blame OB, blame Android. (But I love Android, I'm not saying here that it is a bad platform, it is by far the best one, far ahead iOS, WP, webOS, and other ones.)
I had the choice between an iPhone 4 and OB, and as every geek would do, I chose OB, not because of the specs, but because of Android.
That's the point.
Nobody is crazy or wrong, everyone is different.
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So your choosing lag, slow updates and less games over smoothness, fast updates, more games, better camera and screen etc? Don't get me wrong, i love Android aswell but you gotta be real. If it was between an GS3 and a 4s the decision was way more difficult.
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wessyh0 said:
So your choosing lag, slow updates and less games over smoothness, fast updates, more games, better camera and screen etc? Don't get me wrong, i love Android aswell but you gotta be real. If it was between an GS3 and a 4s the decision was way more difficult.
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Let me ask you a simple question. Do you like to mod your phone to your preference and to whatever you like?? If yes, then Android is the choice. iOS Can only do stupid repos you cant even change much of its looks. Unlike android. I can even change it to look 99% like WP7.5
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Choosing between GS3 and 4s is not too difficult, GS3 way better than 4s
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SoulExertz said:
Let me ask you a simple question. Do you like to mod your phone to your preference and to whatever you like?? If yes, then Android is the choice. iOS Can only do stupid repos you cant even change much of its looks. Unlike android. I can even change it to look 99% like WP7.5
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Hey! Did you know that you can set a custom wallpaper on the lockscreen and desktop on iPhones? hahaha ok just trolling.
on topic: iPhones are stupid. I can't stand the fact that most of my friends have an iPhone and everytime we meet they're waiting for my phone's new look while they are stuck with one look. Expensive useless crap Compared OB with my pal's iphone 4 and the iPhone couldn't keep up with the OB. just sayin'

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Hey! Did you know that you can set a custom wallpaper on the lockscreen and desktop on iPhones? hahaha ok just trolling.
on topic: iPhones are stupid. I can't stand the fact that most of my friends have an iPhone and everytime we meet they're waiting for my phone's new look while they are stuck with one look. Expensive useless crap Compared OB with my pal's iphone 4 and the iPhone couldn't keep up with the OB. just sayin'
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I used to have an iDevice, and i so much modded it that I ended up making it dual booting Android
It looked so minimal and so sleek, but that was the good times of Installer4 and iPhone OS 2.2.1
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I just want to say one thing that I love Android...
And the fact is that any open source OS will provide much customization in future also.

gt-kingz said:
I'd have taken the 4s, sold it and bought a better android phone. :bbb
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That was i i was thinking about right now

RomWiz said:
That was i i was thinking about right now
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iPhone is bad as its iOS is only for iProducts. Android is widespread having many more customisations than iOS. So, thats why Android is booming now. And why did i get OB?? I was intrigue of the 700 nits NOVA. And of course, our cute mascots of the OS. iOS Doesent even have a mascot. -_- boring.
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SoulExertz said:
iPhone is bad as its iOS is only for iProducts. Android is widespread having many more customisations than iOS. So, thats why Android is booming now. And why did i get OB?? I was intrigue of the 700 nits NOVA. And of course, our cute mascots of the OS. iOS Doesent even have a mascot. -_- boring.
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As far as I remember SoulExertz, you wanted to port Jelly Bean to OB. Then you were looking for developers to help you with the kernel stuff.
Then you wanted to make a light ROM based on android 1.6 for OB. Then you said that you're going to fix the camera to help FOP team finish their CM9 project. Now you keep spamming the forums with your bull**** worthless threads.
Just quit trolling.

He's just a thanks meter whore.

Shaggowa said:
As far as I remember SoulExertz, you wanted to port Jelly Bean to OB. Then you were looking for developers to help you with the kernel stuff.
Then you wanted to make a light ROM based on android 1.6 for OB. Then you said that you're going to fix the camera to help FOP team finish their CM9 project. Now you keep spamming the forums with your bull**** worthless threads.
Just quit trolling.
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I can prove it to you. Im gonna release ALL three things in November. WITH NO BUGS
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He's just a thanks meter *****.
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Get a life. If you are working, you will understand how busy it is.
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Have iPhone 5c and Nexus 5...

I have the two phones I had to get the iPhone as nexus 5 on T-Mobile was out of stock even though I had one since YOU HAVE TO GET A DEVICE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR ETF OFFER so I said why not iPhone
So I bring this icrap with me home with my nexus 5 let's take a few seconds here to discuss pricing msrp
IPhone 5s MSRP : ~$500 baseline
Google nexus 5 MSRP: $350 baseline
What the baseline is its the lowest capacity of storage available.
Build quality I would say that though the iPhone 5c was more the pricy msrp the nexus 5 does stand out with its soft touch tone back and ceramic power and volume rocker buttons
OS iOS vs Android
Having both it seems iOS just doesn't seem right.. The 5c stuffers some lag doing basic tasks where ad nexus 5 is solid performance throughout the entire system.
IOS is simpler on some levels however have you tried putting your own custom ringtone on iOS its a mess check it out
http://m.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-make-ringtones-for-iphone/
The nexus 5 and android simply allows me to download a third party app to trim it then and there and set it or just go on google play long press the song and boom set as ringtone so android is easier on some levels than iOS fair enough give one take one.
Camera : I would say nexus 5 is better but its just preference on the HDR+ which I love.
Battery life; sorry but I give this to apple as the amp hours are smaller on the iPhone than the nexus 5 and it still somehow gets through the day better than the nexus 5 (this doesn't mean you can't improve it though) custom kernals under clocking etc.
Cellular radio performance; sorry giving this to apple hands down the iPhone 5c beats the nexus 5 by almost having no service in room on nexus 5 or 1 bar of LTE on iPhone. Granted the radio is optimized and then google has not yet have a chance to play around.
Overall I'm switching my Sims back and forward the T-Mobile chat reps hate me for switching so much times per day (micro Sim to nano Sim) but overall my head is leaning towards the nexus 5
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I soon as I read that I guessed this would be biased towards the N5. If you're gonna compare at least put them both on a level playing ground.

I will say that IOS's supposed speed/smoothness advantage is really overblown. I've spent enough time using iOS 7 on the iPhone 5S to get a good feel for the OS and the phone, and honestly, it feels slow next to my N5. I also don't understand why so many people are content to use a phone with such a tiny screen. Different strokes, I guess.

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I will say that IOS's supposed speed/smoothness advantage is really overblown. I've spent enough time using iOS 7 on the iPhone 5S to get a good feel for the OS and the phone, and honestly, it feels slow next to my N5. I also don't understand why so many people are content to use a phone with such a tiny screen. Different strokes, I guess.
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Or they have never tried anything else and think android is laggy and buggy and reboots all the time. Its all in the iKoolaid

I'm no apple fan but there's no way the nexus 5s camera is better than the iPhone's although I noticed you did qualify what you said with reference to HDR+. I've found that over a period of time the iPhones camera will give consistently better results. It really annoys me but it seems to be the way it is.
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They aren't equal though. It was compared to a 5c.
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I love my iPad air, but I could never go to Apple for all my devices. I love Android too much. Otherwise, I personally feel that both have their pros and cons and it's up to the user to decide what's important to them.

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Or they have never tried anything else and think android is laggy and buggy and reboots all the time. Its all in the iKoolaid
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I always have to laugh when someone tries to make an argument about Android being laggy. Maybe in 2011. It's no longer a valid argument.

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I will say that IOS's supposed speed/smoothness advantage is really overblown. I've spent enough time using iOS 7 on the iPhone 5S to get a good feel for the OS and the phone, and honestly, it feels slow next to my N5. I also don't understand why so many people are content to use a phone with such a tiny screen. Different strokes, I guess.
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Agreed. I just updated my iPad mini to the retina one and was expecting to be blown away by its speed and fluidity. Needless to say I was more than a little disappointed. It's fast, don't get me wrong, but the 2013 N7 feels more responsive to me even though it has only an S4 pro in it. Also, the iPad is quite laggy at times. Another big thing is stability- all the iOS fanboys argue about is how stable iOS is compared to Android, yet my experience has been the exact opposite. With my old 4s, my old 5, and my iPad I get constant app crashes and occasional UI freezes. Far more than on Android. The difference is that Android lets you know if something force closes whereas iOS tries to hide it. I still think iOS and iDevices in general are great products and have their merits, but Android has come a looooong way since its birth and there really is no comparison anymore. Android > iOS in pretty much all fronts.
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I soon as I read that I guessed this would be biased towards the N5. If you're gonna compare at least put them both on a level playing ground.
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Better yet, lets not compare at all. Various threads doing this and they are already too many in numbers
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I love the iOS's vast library of apps and sleek phone/tablet designs, but that's about it. I can not use a 4-inch screen. It literally hurts my eyes. I honestly wish that they made a 6 inch Nexus phone, because I love big screens. And like others have said, Android has come a very long way in terms of stability, support, and smoothness. But most people still think of those crappy Droid phones when they hear Android. Droid was a good name, but ultimately too close to "Android", so now people get them mixed up.
The Apple tax is just too much. I won't pay close to 100% more just for a logo and some aluminum.

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I will say that IOS's supposed speed/smoothness advantage is really overblown. I've spent enough time using iOS 7 on the iPhone 5S to get a good feel for the OS and the phone, and honestly, it feels slow next to my N5. I also don't understand why so many people are content to use a phone with such a tiny screen. Different strokes, I guess.
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IOS runs better on bad hardware, but Android is pretty smooth if you have a mobile/pad with good hardware.

Yeah I'll agree with you on a few things but not all. Price (32gb 5s is $749, 32gb N5 is $399). Build quality on the 5S (only iPhone I had) is great...way better than the Nexus 5. Camera is much better on the N5 with HDR+. Battery life is better on the 5S, no idea why. Apple customer service is miles ahead of LG's CS.
The major reason why I returned the 5S (I've been using android since the beginning of time and wanted to try the dark side out ) is because it was SO SLOW. Everything lagged and stuttered and crashed about 3 times a day. I have now lost all respect for iOS users who say Android crashes and lags. What are they comparing it to, some Alcatel phone?
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IOS runs better on bad hardware, but Android is pretty smooth if you have a mobile/pad with good hardware.
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No, this used to be right. But with iOS 7 finally having the features that Android has (some), it lags a LOT on a CPU (A7) that supposedly beats the S800.

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What are they comparing it to, some Alcatel phone?.
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Some phone running Gingerbread most likely because that's all people know and it's cemented into their minds.

aooga said:
Yeah I'll agree with you on a few things but not all. Price (32gb 5s is $749, 32gb N5 is $399). Build quality on the 5S (only iPhone I had) is great...way better than the Nexus 5. Camera is much better on the N5 with HDR+. Battery life is better on the 5S, no idea why. Apple customer service is miles ahead of LG's CS.
The major reason why I returned the 5S (I've been using android since the beginning of time and wanted to try the dark side out ) is because it was SO SLOW. Everything lagged and stuttered and crashed about 3 times a day. I have now lost all respect for iOS users who say Android crashes and lags. What are they comparing it to, some Alcatel phone?
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No, this used to be right. But with iOS 7 finally having the features that Android has (some), it lags a LOT on a CPU (A7) that supposedly beats the S800.
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then i tell everyone, simply don't use IOS 7

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then i tell everyone, simply don't use IOS 7
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How is that possible with a 5S?
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Some phone running Gingerbread most likely because that's all people know and it's cemented into their minds.
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Even gingerbread didn't lag as much as ios7 on my Captivate. ios7 is truly hopeless.

That's one opinion I guess.
2 Points don't make sense. You can't just give a win away by saying the iPhone wins battery life with less amps and still makes it thru the day. The iPhone is also 4" vs 4.95" screen. <720P screen vs 1080P etc.
The key point is to compare if either phone can get thru the same day doing the same things. Unfortunately out of the box the Nexus 5 does more things. G+, Gmail, GDrive they're all set to stayed sync'd out of the box. The iPhone out of the box does less background data movement.
Radio reception... how can you compare via the bars? They don't mean anything, they're 'feel good' bars. Can you make a call? how fast is the LTE etc... would determine which one wins. From many reviews online and looking at dbi comparisons with devices in hands there's no clear winner.
The Camera, even tho I own an N5 I'd have to give to the iPhone. The color accuracy is better on the iphone, the software stabilization is good enough. Overall it's also easier for the novice to use.
I came from an iPhone to the N5 and was hoping Apple would do something more with iOS7 other than make it look different and work slower. Android for my use has surpassed Apple in functionality. Though I will say for the things iOS does it does it really well and Android can still learn from it. Eg. The calendar the stock one sucks compared to Apple's stock calendar.
That all said the iPhone isn't worth the premium over the $350-$400 for the N5.

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Older versions of iOS run better on bad hardware. I don't think a lot of iPhone 4 owners were thrilled with their iOS 7 update.

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on phones running gingerbread, gingerbread is often the best option... it depends on hardware, jb has more hardware acceleration, but gingerbread is lighter on ram. as smooth as jb can feel on the home screen i think the overall performance os better with gb on many single core phones which is why cm7 was supported while cm9 was already out. still everyone has to have the latest and greatest and often convince themselves the new stuff is better when it's sometimes not true..
as far as the feel, apple has animations that may be smooth but there is a noticeable wait. with ios7 its not only a wait but there is a choppyness that android phones might have shown 2-3 years ago. the "long press" on apple also seems a bit longer. i really don't find apple phones to feel fast as much as they look smooth. just my opinion. don't get me wrong..i don't like the company but the device isn't that bad and as much as i hate the elitism of things that exist elsewhere but apple makes them proprietary and brands them for use on apple products only, they do make new tech easy and unintimidating to people that would never discover these things on a pc or android.
i prefer android but the android "ecosystem" is all over the place, some devices get updates, others don't. feature sets vary, build varies. there are literally thousands of devices and many gave people bad experiences. there are too many choices with android while there are no real choices with apple. you chose a color, storage size and 2 performance levels... the screen size doesn't change. the interface stays much the same. i actually prefer the old androids from a feature set point of view. i can do without a keyboard, actually i hate them, but a track ball make text navigations more precise and the menu button was useful. unfortunately people found it confusing (which says volumes about the intelligence of the general population) but i don't know how i went without 300+ ppi for all those years... a 5" screen is kinda big but with a 16:9 aspect ration a 4.2-4.7" screen would be the butter zone. with 16:10 4"-4.2" is good. apple needs to make a wider phone. and android manufacturers need to stop making so many damn phablets..

maxpower7 said:
I always have to laugh when someone tries to make an argument about Android being laggy. Maybe in 2011. It's no longer a valid argument.
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I think that people always compare these and say android is laggy because they have the latest iPhone and some cheap $49.99 android phone and are wondering why it's so bad. Obviously if you get a budget android phone it's not gonna be that good.....
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Older versions of iOS run better on bad hardware. I don't think a lot of iPhone 4 owners were thrilled with their iOS 7 update.
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THIS. So true