[Q] iPhone 4 vs Captivate fluidity - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm wonder what would is the reason behind the fluidity of the iPhone 4 ?
I got the captivate and most of friends got the iPhone 4 in, relatively, the same time.
The performance of their phones is superior to mine even though both phones have the mostly the same specifications !
BTW, I'm using CM7.

simply put, iphone is one OS meant specifically for one phone, developed by professionals..
Android is an OS that is spread over hundreds of different models.. Its hard to make everything perfect when the devices are constantly different (especially when different models are running different versions of Android). It's also open source and has the potential to be better than iOS but needs more time to develop IMO. I think the base SDK is pretty solid but then the carriers do thier own "tweaks" etc and we lose some of the functionality.
The reason I prefer Android over iOS is the ability to customize it. Your friends wont be flashing custom software on thier iPhones which to me is half the fun of having a "smart" phone.

Also iOS doesn't offer real multitasking. Its how they both handle memory and cpu usage. I'm not a fan of Apple mobile's BUT I have to admit that for single tasking and simplicity (ish) iOS is better.

prbassplayer said:
Also iOS doesn't offer real multitasking. Its how they both handle memory and cpu usage. I'm not a fan of Apple mobile's BUT I have to admit that for single tasking and simplicity (ish) iOS is better.
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Android is fundamentally going to be slower than iOS just because of the way it's structured. And yeah, a lot of it has to do with the multitasking aspect. Android is much more like a PC than iOS is
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there is a thread about this from a couple days ago on the xda (news) portal about the comparison of android/ios multi-tasking, and info about it in a recent XDAtv episode.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
http://www.youtube.com/xdadevelopers#p/u/3/FFuWQyH3trg
you should check both daily for info on everything xda.

Thanks everyone for sharing these info
What about hardware acceleration. As I understood, ICS support full HW acceleration. So does the iOS offer the same feature ?
If so, does would we witness a change in the performance of ICS ?

do your own research.
use google. its new but it works pretty good.....

AhmadAlmousa said:
Thanks everyone for sharing these info
What about hardware acceleration. As I understood, ICS support full HW acceleration. So does the iOS offer the same feature ?
If so, does would we witness a change in the performance of ICS ?
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https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/XAZ4CeVP6DC

Superior GPU, OpenGL, Hardware acceleration, software optimization for one architecture...it's really more than one, single thing. Android guys like to point at it not having "true" multitasking, but that's just not true. iOS can run apps in the background and it is just as easy to switch apps in iOS as it us Android.
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Hemlocke said:
Superior GPU, OpenGL, Hardware acceleration, software optimization for one architecture...it's really more than one, single thing. Android guys like to point at it not having "true" multitasking, but that's just not true. iOS can run apps in the background and it is just as easy to switch apps in iOS as it us Android.
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The multitasking that you speak off is false. It closes apps as it wishes and sometime blocks access to other apps. I'm not knocking it it works great for most ppl. I've used Iphone 4 for 6 months and It annoyed the hell out of me. The Gpu is exactly the same. Both ru PowerVR SGX 5 series (535 for Iphone, 540 for us). On paper ours is a tad better since it can process 20M triangles/s vs Iphones 14M/s. Hardware accel we do not have (for now).

I started to describe the 4s, which does have the best GPU in a mobile device. My bad. On paper the 540 is better, but the hardware accel of the 4 makes the 535 perform better. iOS doesn't randomly shut down apps, it prioritizes. The performance is still noticeably better, and you still have multitasking in much the same way you do on Android. As for the 4s, we will need quad-core processors and much better GPUs to see that kind of performance.
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After installing ICS on my Samsung Captivate, it's about 95% as smooth as an iPhone (which I sold to get this phone). I'm really impressed! The hardware acceleration makes a big difference.

It has made a difference on my NS, too, but there are still things I hope they improve.
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It has made a difference on my NS, too, but there are still things I hope they improve.
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Having gone to a Verizon store and used the Galaxy Nexus, I can report that it's pretty much right on par with the iPhone as far as fluidity and responsiveness. The browser in particular is light years ahead of the one in Gingerbread or Froyo.
I think the apples-to-apples comparison on our devices with GB vs ICS shows that the software is mostly responsible for the enhanced responsiveness. Go Google!

kimosen said:
After installing ICS on my Samsung Captivate, it's about 95% as smooth as an iPhone (which I sold to get this phone). I'm really impressed! The hardware acceleration makes a big difference.
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After installing ICS on my Captivate, I have been thoroughly impressed with its responsiveness. Considering it is a port and the Devs have not had the source to work with, I was ecstatic to see this. Once they integrate the recently released source, I truly believe that even my "ancient" Captivate will rival the new iPhone.

They have had source for a while now...
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They have had source for a while now...
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+1. The Team Hacksung build already has the source integrated.

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Sgs and iphone 4

I wonder why my sgs ui can never be smoother than my iphone 4 ui? A any one know how to make it faster
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japonesque said:
I wonder why my sgs ui can never be smoother than my iphone 4 ui? A any one know how to make it faster
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Zeam launcher + Universal Lagfix + tweaks + disable all animations = smooth as buttah
I own both as well. You can flash a custom ROM to the device with lots of the useless junk removed, and install a lag fix. Start with the FAQs on this site if you haven't already.
I must say though, I have never been so torn between two devices. I love the iPhone 4s stability and application quality. On the other hand, the SGS satisfies my primal need to mod and hack things. I also prefer the weight of the sgs. iPhone is a bit too heavy and fragile for my liking.
just install a custom ROM for your corresponding firmware and voodoo lagfix. done.
smooth and fast.
no need for taskkillers either.
The only thing that is (still) better on the iThing is the browser.
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It its smooth because iOS implements hardware acceleration. It uses the graphics chip to render the animations, which makes everything seamless and smooth. This is easy because iOS is designed completely around around the iPhone. Android was designed for use in hundreds of devices with different hardware, so it does not use hardware acceleration (yet).
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richan90 said:
It its smooth because iOS implements hardware acceleration. It uses the graphics chip to render the animations, which makes everything seamless and smooth. This is easy because iOS is designed completely around around the iPhone. Android was designed for use in hundreds of devices with different hardware, so it does not use hardware acceleration (yet).
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Well that is not the case completely. TouchWiz was indeed optimized for our graphics chip, however, without a lagfix, the access to the data is too slow and in froyo, the touchwiz launcher is too directly ported from the galaxy tab which causes our device to first render everything in 1024x600 and then scale down to 800x480 which costs a lot more resources than just rendering 800x480 or 960x640 (as on the iPhone). With the right mods, all this is corrected and you will find your SGS just as smooth as an iPhone 4. However all this requires a lot of reading and a significant amount of patience...
But It's definitely worth the reward.
Or we could wait for a:
-stable
-responsive-
-good battery life
-high performance (in addition to responsive)
-with all functions working
-with the original applications (Google and Samsung Apps)
-with the haptics
-long key press actions (menu/search, home/running apps, back/forceclose)
-sudo/root available
-apps2sd
-fully consistent user interface (with landscape mode)
build of the MIUI ROM
*drools...
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Or we could wait for a:
-stable
-responsive-
-good battery life
-high performance (in addition to responsive)
-with all functions working
-with the original applications (Google and Samsung Apps)
-with the haptics
-long key press actions (menu/search, home/running apps, back/forceclose)
-sudo/root available
-apps2sd
-fully consistent user interface (with landscape mode)
build of the MIUI ROM
*drools...
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Or we all could start mass complaint/class action against Samsung
This phone has been heavily advitised but does not work out of the box.
I received 1 offical update via Kies just after launch, phone went from totaly useless to usable to a degree. I updated to Froyo via reg hack and phone is better but still lags. GPS is still out. Battery life is still crap. Browsing crap, WiFi crap. Both were good on Eclair
Thats funny. Is there any device where someone hasnt brought up class action? Its like suing dodge cause they advertsed the 69 charger had big engine..but suspension and drag stunk... You could wait for the test drive results and dont buy one...unless you just think you have a right to have samsung make something better. i like mine. I also like finding improvements..sure.
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Darkstriker said:
Well that is not the case completely. TouchWiz was indeed optimized for our graphics chip, however, without a lagfix, the access to the data is too slow and in froyo, the touchwiz launcher is too directly ported from the galaxy tab which causes our device to first render everything in 1024x600 and then scale down to 800x480 which costs a lot more resources than just rendering 800x480 or 960x640 (as on the iPhone). With the right mods, all this is corrected and you will find your SGS just as smooth as an iPhone 4. However all this requires a lot of reading and a significant amount of patience...
But It's definitely worth the reward.
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I was going to question this and ask whether you were joking, but then I remembered this is Samsung, so it's probably true...
It's pretty tragic if that is what they're doing.
I think this is the same rant I see in all the posts about sgs, no point repeating in all the posts.
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I am using launcher pro and so far, super satisfied with it. I am on stock JP6 Froyo and no Voodoo but still smooth as butter. I am amazed, I didn't turn off any effects.
Side by side to an iPhone 4, no problem beating the smooth game although iPhone seems more consistent. At some point though, launching apps or swiping from left to right seems faster on the SGS. No kidding.
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I was going to question this and ask whether you were joking, but then I remembered this is Samsung, so it's probably true...
It's pretty tragic if that is what they're doing.
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Check this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817466
oohh... I see... so which custom firmware with froyo do you guys recommend for me as Im using a singapore singtel handset... Thank you
oh btw will I be able to do the flashing using linux? or it had to be windows? thanks

Wow..IPhone 4S explodes past SGS2 on all benchmarks!

Who'da thunk it? (Wink)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/iphone-4s-preliminary-benchmarks-800mhz-a5-slightly-slower-gpu-than-ipad-2
i think once Android introduces hardware acceleration (ICS??) that from a benchmarking standpoint it should improve. From what i understand of Android and iOS, iOS i think has potential to do better in benchmarking due to being pretty much on the metal where as android is "virtual" to account for all the different hardware sets. Some one smarter feel free to straighten me out!! That said, i don't think you have any one said that the ET4G feels slow!
Depends on iPhone graphics chip too... Not sure how good it is...
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it's very difficult to compare devices that run different platforms because there can be a lot of variables involved.
android still has a long way to go in terms of fluidity and refinement.
plus, this is what happens when software is designed for only ONE device made by ONE manufacturer as opposed to open-source and multiple devices manufacturers.
still, I don't dislike Apple by any means but nothing could make me get an iPhone 4s....
The iPhone is basically an app drawer.
Nexus Prime comes out soon. That will inevitably put the 4S to shame. As for hardware, I think the 4S is the greatest anticlimax of the year. They've changed a small number of things on the iPhone 4 and put a £400+ price tag on it.
Not to discredit Apple. It's a phenomenal phone but it's only just been released and will very quickly be sunk (again) by Android devices.
Just my two cents of course...
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it's very difficult to compare devices that run different platforms because there can be a lot of variables involved.
android still has a long way to go in terms of fluidity and refinement.
plus, this is what happens when software is designed for only ONE device made by ONE manufacturer as opposed to open-source and multiple devices manufacturers.
still, I don't dislike Apple by any means but nothing could make me get an iPhone 4s....
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Agreed!
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Yes I'm very impressive
Edit not impressed
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I could care less. I don't even run those on my phone as they don't mean anything to me.
rockky said:
Who'da thunk it? (Wink)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/iphone-4s-preliminary-benchmarks-800mhz-a5-slightly-slower-gpu-than-ipad-2
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Sorry, but did you mistakenly post this trash here in the Epic 4G Touch section? Cause I don't seen anything about your post that relates to this phone.
Damn you guys make me pissy, why can't you keep your crapple stuff where it belongs?
On a side note, it is funny how the image of his thumbs take up 50% of the screen.
Excuse me if I'm wrong, but is that not because of the hardware acceleration (From gpu.. If i make any sense here) because the Galaxy Tab has very high scores, Higher than the reast and close to the iphone in all of them, Honeycomb, unlike gingerbread has Hardware acceleration, so hopefully for ICS those scores will boost
I'm not surprised since iOS is optimized to the max, while Android is still crappy on most hardware. But i guess ICS will fix this.
Btw, the 4S' GPU is the same that will sit in the Nexus Prime (according to rumours).
But whether we like it or not, the 4S is a powerful gadget, and that's great for the iPhone users.
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Who'da thunk it? (Wink)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/...rks-800mhz-a5-slightly-slower-gpu-than-ipad-2
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I thunk it...when I saw the benchmarks I posted about in a different thread.
Apple never does anything frivolously. They may seem to be frivolous at times, but they always have valid reasons for what they do. It's why they prosper. And why they will continue to prosper.
I get a 3600 score on mt htc desire hd with ccm7 rom, overclocked....iphone couldn't even half that....BUT, i returned to a custom sense rom and clocked processor back down to standard speed and i noticed absolutely ZERO difference, it was still 100% as smooth and zero lag etc....BUT, my benchmark was only 1841...a lot less on Quadrant.
Quadrant scores, IMHO (or other benchmark tools) mean F**K ALL!!
my phone is 100% smooth
ZERO lag whatsoever
very fast
reliable
so i really couldn't care if it said (on quadrant benchmark) 100 or 5,000,000!
Matt
I've gotten over 5800 on quadrant on my Nexus S, Simms22 has even broken 6000 (same device) quadrants are debatable. iOS will again be playing catch up to Android in the very near future.
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Galaxy S - not as expected

People have been saying that the Galaxy S actually come close to be an iPhone killer. Or it already has that I'm not sure of. But after using the SGS for almost a year now, I do feel that it is slow. Much much slower than iPhones.
However, it is okay if they aren't many apps. Everytime my SGS slows down, I would resort to factory reset and it would be okay until I start spamming downloads again.
This is totally contradictory to the iPhone. The lags I experience isn't major though. But it is annoying for sure and comparing to iPhones, I always feel like my phone is somehow underpowered. Anyone has the same experience? By the way, I'm using stock 2.3.4 JVQ.
You are right and wrong.
Sgs is not slow.
Based on your descrioption it appears that your problem only apears after you have installed lot of apps. I would bet this is because a lot of these apps have services running and auto load at startup.
The android platform's implementation of true multitasking does inherently introduce issues like lags when when critical resources like memory is depleted. Sgs only has 512mb ram. So when lots of services run in the background, it slows down and although it tries to free up ram, it can overwhelmed when all those apps tries to restart itself.
Task killers / autostarts app / kernel and tunings can only do so much based on my experience.
Best option is to be more selective with app download and what you really want to keep on the phone.
IPhone doesn't have true multitasking thus don't havr the same issue and appears faster. Of course the UI is GPU accelerated which helps.
So really depends how much you yourself multitask at then of the day and whether you need it. Many don't and thus find iPhone ideal.
Ice cream sandwich will bring gpu acceleration mainstream to android.
Still loving my sgs. I have an ipad2 which I also love but squirm when I wanted it to multitask.
My 2 cents sharing
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I started answering OP's question, but I it's pretty much the same thing you said...
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^ +1
I started answering OP's question, but I it's pretty much the same thing you said...
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LOL same here
Personal opinion - I enjoy customizing the phone, flashing and changing things, right now I'm on MIUI Mint Berry Edition 1.10.28 and it's fast, behaves very well and I really can´t complain.
If you don't like customizing and "owning" your phone, that way I believe you would prefer the Iphone because in terms of sock stuff it behaves very well.
Those are different phones, people have different taste you have pros and cons on both sides
vash_stanped said:
Personal opinion - I enjoy customizing the phone, flashing and changing things, right now I'm on MIUI Mint Berry Edition 1.10.28 and it's fast, behaves very well and I really can´t complain.
If you don't like customizing and "owning" your phone, that way I believe you would prefer the Iphone because in terms of sock stuff it behaves very well.
Those are different phones, people have different taste you have pros and cons on both sides
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This man knows his stuff.
Apple clock their processors very high but Samsung don't. That's why many people report their iPod touch or their iPhone getting very hot and then starts smoking. I read on a tech site nearly 10 months ago that a Guy bought a iPod touch and some days later while listening music it started smoking then he went to apple store aand they gave him a new one , this happened to that Guy 4 Times and he got a new i pod touch everytime and had loose his data again and again everytime they gave him a new one. You can call that Guy unlucky but still it happened to him, so apple just wants to get the best out of their devices even though they start burning and you can cook food on them. I use doctorz rom and haven't faced even a single lag on the latest v8.1
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Apple clock their processors very high but Samsung don't. That's why many people report their iPod touch or their iPhone getting very hot and then starts smoking. I read on a tech site nearly 10 months ago that a Guy bought a iPod touch and some days later while listening music it started smoking then he went to apple store aand they gave him a new one , this happened to that Guy 4 Times and he got a new i pod touch everytime and had loose his data again and again everytime they gave him a new one. You can call that Guy unlucky but still it happened to him, so apple just wants to get the best out of their devices even though they start burning and you can cook food on them. I use doctorz rom and haven't faced even a single lag on the latest v8.1
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Whoa.
I'm pretty sure Apple underclocks more than overclocks the majority of their devices. I read that the iPhone 4S, for example, was underclocked to 800MHz (from 1000MHz, I'm assuming).
I don't think so it maybe different for iPhone 4s. As its dual core also has more ram.
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I don't think so it maybe different for iPhone 4s. As its dual core also has more ram.
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I don't know if Wikipedia is a good enough source for you, but it says so right under the Wikipedia article for Underclocking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underclocking
"Most smartphones and PDAs, such as the Motorola Droid, Palm Pre, and Apple iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s, use the "underclocking" of a more powerful processor, rather than the full clocking of a less powerful processor, to maximize battery life. The designers for such mobile devices often discover that a slower processor gives worse battery life than a more powerful processor at a lower clock rate. They select a processor on the basis of the performance per watt of the processor."
I'm sure you could find more credible sources if you googled it.
smiles.smiley said:
People have been saying that the Galaxy S actually come close to be an iPhone killer. Or it already has that I'm not sure of. But after using the SGS for almost a year now, I do feel that it is slow. Much much slower than iPhones.
However, it is okay if they aren't many apps. Everytime my SGS slows down, I would resort to factory reset and it would be okay until I start spamming downloads again.
This is totally contradictory to the iPhone. The lags I experience isn't major though. But it is annoying for sure and comparing to iPhones, I always feel like my phone is somehow underpowered. Anyone has the same experience? By the way, I'm using stock 2.3.4 JVQ.
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If you want smoothness and no lag, just flash froyo 2.2.1.
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If you want smoothness and no lag, just flash froyo 2.2.1.
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I keep hearing this and i want to try it for myself which froyo rom would you recommend?
I heard that a lot too. But I have friends running on 2.2.1 asked me to help them to get their device to 2.3.3/2.3.4. The reason they gave me was that their phones are much laggier than mine.

The Dar Knight Rises lagging excessively on Optimus 2X?!

The graphics are exceptional but the lag is so bad that it hinders my gameplay significantly.
I don't understand why this is happening. The game runs perfectly smooth on an ipod toucb 4th generation; sure I know that apple has a way of making their devices run apps smoothly. I also know that optimus 2x's tegra 2 gpu chipset isn't the most powerful but it's certainly not a low end GPU either. As a result coupled with a dual core processor surely it should play very smoothly, when a device like an ipod touch with its mere 1ghz can even execute it fine.
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The graphics are exceptional but the lag is so bad that it hinders my gameplay significantly.
I don't understand why this is happening. The game runs perfectly smooth on an ipod toucb 4th generation; sure I know that apple has a way of making their devices run apps smoothly. I also know that optimus 2x's tegra 2 gpu chipset isn't the most powerful but it's certainly not a low end GPU either. As a result coupled with a dual core processor surely it should play very smoothly, when a device like an ipod touch with its mere 1ghz can even execute it fine.
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Which android version/rom are you using?
ICS is known for using a lot of memory. So, there is a chance that the 512Mb of our device is not enough for using the android system + game.
If you're in ICS, I suggest you to downgrade to a rock solid CM7 GB rom. (temasek's unnoficial cm7 is just AWESOME).
I am really sad to say it, but i think our device is not capable of running ICS in a heavy use profile.
I think we need hwa driver to run those new games out there smoothly
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cool.guy said:
Which android version/rom are you using?
ICS is known for using a lot of memory. So, there is a chance that the 512Mb of our device is not enough for using the android system + game.
If you're in ICS, I suggest you to downgrade to a rock solid CM7 GB rom. (temasek's unnoficial cm7 is just AWESOME).
I am really sad to say it, but i think our device is not capable of running ICS in a heavy use profile.
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That's depressing, because i'm currently using temasek's unofficial cm7 ROM
On a side note, based on the Play Store reviews for Dark Knight Rises it looks like high end phones like the Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus and even the galaxy S3 experience occasional lag. Therefore i'm not entirely giving up hope of being able to play this game...
Also you say that our device has too little RAM. Once again i'll refer to the ipod touch 4th gen. It only has 256 MB of RAM and a 1gHz processor, yet my friends have shown me how TDKR runs quite smoothly on their device. I'd like to know how this is possible.
I know about smartphones' inferior gaming quality compared to portable consoles like PSP which only have 64MB of RAM and a 222mHz processor, because PSP's are specifically designed for gaming and don't have other processes that interfere with their performance. I don't think the same analogy can apply to ipod touches and android phones, because ipods are essentially mobile devices without the texting and calling capabilities. So I REALLY can't see why our phones are incapable of playing this game.
Use ramhack to have some more RAM available, overclock your processor and use the highest OTF value for the GPU if you use the Etana Kernel. You could also kill all running processes before running the game. Just make sure to have enough RAM free for the game.
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Just saying, PSP has 333 MHz
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Just saying, PSP has 333 MHz
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Well that's nice to know. Still frustrated about this game.
mybe is the rom problem instead of ICS laggy,
i had no issue while i m in ICS, but not with the game you mention
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mybe is the rom problem instead of ICS laggy,
i had no issue while i m in ICS, but not with the game you mention
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I'm sorry but I have no idea what you just said...are you suggesting that I use an ICS ROM?
Beplexor said:
That's depressing, because i'm currently using temasek's unofficial cm7 ROM
On a side note, based on the Play Store reviews for Dark Knight Rises it looks like high end phones like the Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus and even the galaxy S3 experience occasional lag. Therefore i'm not entirely giving up hope of being able to play this game...
Also you say that our device has too little RAM. Once again i'll refer to the ipod touch 4th gen. It only has 256 MB of RAM and a 1gHz processor, yet my friends have shown me how TDKR runs quite smoothly on their device. I'd like to know how this is possible.
I know about smartphones' inferior gaming quality compared to portable consoles like PSP which only have 64MB of RAM and a 222mHz processor, because PSP's are specifically designed for gaming and don't have other processes that interfere with their performance. I don't think the same analogy can apply to ipod touches and android phones, because ipods are essentially mobile devices without the texting and calling capabilities. So I REALLY can't see why our phones are incapable of playing this game.
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That it don't work good on the O2X can only be because of 3 things.
1. The developer have made the game primary for newer phones with more power.
2. The software on your phone don't make good use of the hardware.
3. Poorly written/bad code in the game-
That it runs fine on the PSP you seem to have a good understanding for. Good thing to mention about the PSP is that the resolution is really small compared to phones now days. But you miss the similarity to the iPod? Sure the iPod runs the "same" firmware as the iPhones. Only that when it's installed to the devices it leaves out all phone stuff(things thats ALWAYS on and use RAM).
This is also a common thing that it's nothing that people can deny. Most apps runs better on iOS then their counterpart on Android. Why? Because its easier to program for iOS. Not easier in the mean of writing the code but testing it and making sure that it runs on every or at least those devices you want. Without the need of posting a minimal requirement list like on PC's. Also goes for the PSP and every other game console, maybe I didn't need to mention that.
O yea for the record don't try ICS rom it will be a waste of time since it don't have any HW-acceleration.
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That it don't work good on the O2X can only be because of 3 things.
1. The developer have made the game primary for newer phones with more power.
2. The software on your phone don't make good use of the hardware.
3. Poorly written/bad code in the game-
That it runs fine on the PSP you seem to have a good understanding for. Good thing to mention about the PSP is that the resolution is really small compared to phones now days. But you miss the similarity to the iPod? Sure the iPod runs the "same" firmware as the iPhones. Only that when it's installed to the devices it leaves out all phone stuff(things thats ALWAYS on and use RAM).
This is also a common thing that it's nothing that people can deny. Most apps runs better on iOS then their counterpart on Android. Why? Because its easier to program for iOS. Not easier in the mean of writing the code but testing it and making sure that it runs on every or at least those devices you want. Without the need of posting a minimal requirement list like on PC's. Also goes for the PSP and every other game console, maybe I didn't need to mention that.
O yea for the record don't try ICS rom it will be a waste of time since it don't have any HW-acceleration.
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I see...so ipod touches don't multitask either. Well that actually makes perfect sense seeing as it's iOS.
And yeah I know about the lack of HW acceleration. LG has to release ICS officially so we can get the drivers...but the hopes of getting ICS on our phone are getting dimmer by the day especially with LG canada confirming no ICS for their phones -.-
*Edit: I'm going to be bold and deny the fact O2X is not powerful enough. I just saw 2 reviews in the newest reviews for TDKR on playstore, one using HTC One X and the other Nexus 7 both complaining about horrible constant lag. If some quad core devices experience this lag, then surely it must be the dev's problem?
Beplexor said:
I see...so ipod touches don't multitask either. Well that actually makes perfect sense seeing as it's iOS.
And yeah I know about the lack of HW acceleration. LG has to release ICS officially so we can get the drivers...but the hopes of getting ICS on our phone are getting dimmer by the day especially with LG canada confirming no ICS for their phones -.-
*Edit: I'm going to be bold and deny the fact O2X is not powerful enough. I just saw 2 reviews in the newest reviews for TDKR on playstore, one using HTC One X and the other Nexus 7 both complaining about horrible constant lag. If some quad core devices experience this lag, then surely it must be the dev's problem?
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The 3D hardware acceleration is working perfectly fine on ics. So there shouldn't be a difference between ics and gb in games. Except some that are caused by less free memory in ics.
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I have CM9 Nova HD - ICS, along with Chainfire 3d with all the drivers. Still the laggy performance of TDKR.
Guess they have not made the game accordingly.
tonyp said:
The 3D hardware acceleration is working perfectly fine on ics. So there shouldn't be a difference between ics and gb in games. Except some that are caused by less free memory in ics.
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[RSRCH] OB P970 Software research

So, i have been secretly venturing deep inside P970. So this is what i have found:
These are two phones specs:
Optimus Black
1GHz ARMv7 Rev71 Proccessor
Two Types
FOP CM9 SUPERCHARGED
CM7 SUPERCHARGED, KICKEDASS KERNELISED & 3G SUPERCHARGED
iPhone 4S
1GHz Dual Core A5 chip (UV To 800MHz)
iOS 6 Beta 3
These reviews will be against Apple iPhone. (Apple will be the hit ratio)
GRAPHICS
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The Optimus black's Graphics rendering is the same as iPhone 4.
After bringing it to CM7, It renders thrice as fast, almost reaching the 4S
9/10 = So after ICS(FOP) it surpassed the 4S. But you will need to Supercharge.
SPEED
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The TI OMAP 3630 Is our hatred. It has caused many problems for us but was the best of its kind a year ago. What renders it useless in ICS?? The styroscopic Driver, which has caused Camera issues. But in overall, it is fast with a maximum 1GHz of speed
The iPhone 4S' Dual Core A5 Chip, Renders itself the fastest of its kind. But sadly, it is reduced of its maximum performance to 800MHz from 1GHz to conserve battery life. In overall, the OB has an advantage of 200MHz. But in reality, A5 Chip has something unknown inside to render its speed much faster than a 800MHz capable Chip. Making the 4S a tie with OB.
10/10 = At CM7 SUPERCHARGED
NETWORKING
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OB, Like any other phone, is capable of CDMA and GSM. But is so common. Therefore it shall lose in this comparison.
The 4S has 2 antennaes that can intelligently switch between each other for downloads, reaching a 4G capable phone speed. This makes OB Lose upside down. BUT. THE 4S GETS OWNED THIS TIME BY 3G SUPERCHARGER. Bringing OB up to 32MBps and winning an LTE Speed.
12/10 = CM7 3G SUPERCHARGED.
More will be up!! Suggest whatever category you want and i will stage a test immediately!
Next up:
RAM
BOOT SPEED
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I wanna know how to supercharge.... ive tried so hard, someone should just include it in their roms or someone should work on an easy package so we can have SOMETHING to look forward to while camera is being impossible
Dude... what is this? Everyone knows the iPhone 4s is better than the LG OB, example: gaming and performance and the screen. The iPhone can run all games very smooth and iOS is just simply smooth. So why compare them? If you had the choise everyone, who has brains, would choose the 4s over the LG OB..
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wessyh0 said:
Dude... what is this? Everyone knows the iPhone 4s is better than the LG OB, example: gaming and performance and the screen. The iPhone can run all games very smooth and iOS is just simply smooth. So why compare them? If you had the choise everyone, who has brains, would choose the 4s over the LG OB..
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I wouldn't
And the 4s plays the games smooth becasue it is made for that specific device.
Not like android that has several 100 or even tousands devices.
RomWiz said:
I wouldn't
And the 4s plays the games smooth becasue it is made for that specific device.
Not like android that has several 100 or even tousands devices.
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You're crazy if you would choose a OB over a 4s.
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You're crazy if you would choose a OB over a 4s.
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You're crazy to consider iPhone better than OB.
Games on iPhone/iPad are made specifically for these devices and, when you run a today game on an older iDevice, look closely at it, it will lag. A lot.
Games on Android are made for Resolutions (MDPI, HDPI, XHDPI, ...) and not for each specs (except for some CPUs, but again, not for specific devices) so it will run perfect on a SGS(hit) III, and will lag on OB, because of the lower specs (and in some case, because of the constructor firmware). Don't blame OB, blame Android. (But I love Android, I'm not saying here that it is a bad platform, it is by far the best one, far ahead iOS, WP, webOS, and other ones.)
I had the choice between an iPhone 4 and OB, and as every geek would do, I chose OB, not because of the specs, but because of Android.
That's the point.
Nobody is crazy or wrong, everyone is different.
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You're crazy to consider iPhone better than OB.
Games on iPhone/iPad are made specifically for these devices and, when you run a today game on an older iDevice, look closely at it, it will lag. A lot.
Games on Android are made for Resolutions (MDPI, HDPI, XHDPI, ...) and not for each specs (except for some CPUs, but again, not for specific devices) so it will run perfect on a SGS(hit) III, and will lag on OB, because of the lower specs (and in some case, because of the constructor firmware). Don't blame OB, blame Android. (But I love Android, I'm not saying here that it is a bad platform, it is by far the best one, far ahead iOS, WP, webOS, and other ones.)
I had the choice between an iPhone 4 and OB, and as every geek would do, I chose OB, not because of the specs, but because of Android.
That's the point.
Nobody is crazy or wrong, everyone is different.
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I'd have taken the 4s, sold it and bought a better android phone. :bbb
Vinzgore said:
You're crazy to consider iPhone better than OB.
Games on iPhone/iPad are made specifically for these devices and, when you run a today game on an older iDevice, look closely at it, it will lag. A lot.
Games on Android are made for Resolutions (MDPI, HDPI, XHDPI, ...) and not for each specs (except for some CPUs, but again, not for specific devices) so it will run perfect on a SGS(hit) III, and will lag on OB, because of the lower specs (and in some case, because of the constructor firmware). Don't blame OB, blame Android. (But I love Android, I'm not saying here that it is a bad platform, it is by far the best one, far ahead iOS, WP, webOS, and other ones.)
I had the choice between an iPhone 4 and OB, and as every geek would do, I chose OB, not because of the specs, but because of Android.
That's the point.
Nobody is crazy or wrong, everyone is different.
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So your choosing lag, slow updates and less games over smoothness, fast updates, more games, better camera and screen etc? Don't get me wrong, i love Android aswell but you gotta be real. If it was between an GS3 and a 4s the decision was way more difficult.
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wessyh0 said:
So your choosing lag, slow updates and less games over smoothness, fast updates, more games, better camera and screen etc? Don't get me wrong, i love Android aswell but you gotta be real. If it was between an GS3 and a 4s the decision was way more difficult.
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Let me ask you a simple question. Do you like to mod your phone to your preference and to whatever you like?? If yes, then Android is the choice. iOS Can only do stupid repos you cant even change much of its looks. Unlike android. I can even change it to look 99% like WP7.5
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Choosing between GS3 and 4s is not too difficult, GS3 way better than 4s
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Let me ask you a simple question. Do you like to mod your phone to your preference and to whatever you like?? If yes, then Android is the choice. iOS Can only do stupid repos you cant even change much of its looks. Unlike android. I can even change it to look 99% like WP7.5
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Hey! Did you know that you can set a custom wallpaper on the lockscreen and desktop on iPhones? hahaha ok just trolling.
on topic: iPhones are stupid. I can't stand the fact that most of my friends have an iPhone and everytime we meet they're waiting for my phone's new look while they are stuck with one look. Expensive useless crap Compared OB with my pal's iphone 4 and the iPhone couldn't keep up with the OB. just sayin'
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Hey! Did you know that you can set a custom wallpaper on the lockscreen and desktop on iPhones? hahaha ok just trolling.
on topic: iPhones are stupid. I can't stand the fact that most of my friends have an iPhone and everytime we meet they're waiting for my phone's new look while they are stuck with one look. Expensive useless crap Compared OB with my pal's iphone 4 and the iPhone couldn't keep up with the OB. just sayin'
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I used to have an iDevice, and i so much modded it that I ended up making it dual booting Android
It looked so minimal and so sleek, but that was the good times of Installer4 and iPhone OS 2.2.1
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I just want to say one thing that I love Android...
And the fact is that any open source OS will provide much customization in future also.
gt-kingz said:
I'd have taken the 4s, sold it and bought a better android phone. :bbb
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That was i i was thinking about right now
RomWiz said:
That was i i was thinking about right now
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iPhone is bad as its iOS is only for iProducts. Android is widespread having many more customisations than iOS. So, thats why Android is booming now. And why did i get OB?? I was intrigue of the 700 nits NOVA. And of course, our cute mascots of the OS. iOS Doesent even have a mascot. -_- boring.
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iPhone is bad as its iOS is only for iProducts. Android is widespread having many more customisations than iOS. So, thats why Android is booming now. And why did i get OB?? I was intrigue of the 700 nits NOVA. And of course, our cute mascots of the OS. iOS Doesent even have a mascot. -_- boring.
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As far as I remember SoulExertz, you wanted to port Jelly Bean to OB. Then you were looking for developers to help you with the kernel stuff.
Then you wanted to make a light ROM based on android 1.6 for OB. Then you said that you're going to fix the camera to help FOP team finish their CM9 project. Now you keep spamming the forums with your bull**** worthless threads.
Just quit trolling.
He's just a thanks meter whore.
Shaggowa said:
As far as I remember SoulExertz, you wanted to port Jelly Bean to OB. Then you were looking for developers to help you with the kernel stuff.
Then you wanted to make a light ROM based on android 1.6 for OB. Then you said that you're going to fix the camera to help FOP team finish their CM9 project. Now you keep spamming the forums with your bull**** worthless threads.
Just quit trolling.
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I can prove it to you. Im gonna release ALL three things in November. WITH NO BUGS
dflt said:
He's just a thanks meter *****.
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Get a life. If you are working, you will understand how busy it is.
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