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[POLL] Monitor or CPU

Gonna get something as its payday... but i cant decide what... so vote pplz... new 24in Samsung monitor, or AMD x6 1090T 3.2 CPU?
Current specs = 20in samsung 2ms lcd monitor and AMD x2 240 2.8ghz CPU.

Whats your current spec Then we can tell you what's worth it
Im going to say screen though, unless you've got a crappy cpu buecause you'll notice the screen more
I personally want an AMD Phenom x6 II 1055T (2.8ghz although it's stable to over 4Ghz) And a 24" LG lol

MacaronyMax said:
Whats your current spec Then we can tell you what's worth it
Im going to say screen though, unless you've got a crappy cpu buecause you'll notice the screen more
I personally want an AMD Phenom x6 II 1055T (2.8ghz although it's stable to over 4Ghz) And a 24" LG lol
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i updated the main post with current specs.

A 6 cored CPU. Where's the doubt?

C0mpu13rFr34k said:
A 6 cored CPU. Where's the doubt?
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Yeah, from a 2 to a 6 will be great dude

Display definitely, as long as it's high resolution.

Cpu!
Scent phrum mie fone!

Aiight pplz, I'm headed to Fry's... get your final votes in
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Got a really good deal on a 24in Viewsonic for $179 ill post pics in a bit.
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heres a few pics got a 24in Viewsonic VA2431WM + Logitech G500 gaming mouse for same price as the 1090T would have cost me... ill get the CPU later.

jeallen0 said:
heres a few pics got a 24in Viewsonic VA2431WM + Logitech G500 gaming mouse for same price as the 1090T would have cost me... ill get the CPU later.
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Looks awesome dude
Also just saying.. a 1055T is the same but at a lower clock speed (I think Might want to look it up though) and is still overclockable to 4.0ghz and is £30 less So if you're looking to save money (Like me) ...

MacaronyMax said:
Looks awesome dude
Also just saying.. a 1055T is the same but at a lower clock speed (I think Might want to look it up though) and is still overclockable to 4.0ghz and is £30 less So if you're looking to save money (Like me) ...
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What about cooling?

C0mpu13rFr34k said:
What about cooling?
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They come with the same cooler... But i see your point

MacaronyMax said:
Looks awesome dude
Also just saying.. a 1055T is the same but at a lower clock speed (I think Might want to look it up though) and is still overclockable to 4.0ghz and is £30 less So if you're looking to save money (Like me) ...
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yeah the 1055T and the 1090T have pretty much the same specs just different clock speed, but it has to do with the internal memory clock controller having a higher default clock speed on the 1090T due to the higher core clock, thus being able to run faster than the 1055 but at the same temps for the size of die. Thats why im leaning to the 1090T, MORE potential and a stock clock of 3.2ghz. ive seen them at 4.5 on air running only at 105f under full load with a coolermaster V8. trust me, ive done my research... i tend to keep up with computers ever closer than i keep up with cellphones... and im ALWAYS on top of that ****e
besides ill just get a 1090t next paycheck

Oh okay lol Well.. then yeah the 1090T... I cant afford that though soo.
I've not really done much with PC's only been on Amazon looking for components which I still have to buy

MacaronyMax said:
They come with the same cooler... But i see your point
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ive already got an aftermarket coolermaster hyper n520 cpu cooler

jeallen0 said:
ive already got an aftermarket coolermaster hyper n520 cpu cooler
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Looks nice compared to my stock i5 cooler

Beast of a cooler ;P

MacaronyMax said:
Beast of a cooler ;P
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ehh its not that bad... i want a coolermaster v10 but it wont fit in my case

I've never know a fan to look so nice
I'm sure it would fit if you take some unimportant stuff out lol

[Q] Nvidia Optimus or Not?

I was thinking of getting a lappy with
310m with i3, with Nvidia Optimus
or
310m with i5, without Nvidia Optimus?
Both are about the same price.
What do you guys think?

Save up for Sandy Bridge. It seems to bring about double the FPS rate in games, without the burden of a discrete card.
But, to answer your question, Optimus will only save battery. If you are looking to save battery, go for the Optimus.
If you are going to have some level of gaming on you laptop, go for the i5. There will be about 5-10 fps increase at least for games.
For reference, I can play COD4 and Dragon Age:Origins on a 210m at 1280*720 resolutions with all eye-candy tuned down.
One last note, if you wanna game, go for a desktop.
p/s: A lot of guesswork here, but I am assuming that you are getting a discrete mobility graphics for gaming amirite?

Well, obviously i5 (that's if I guessed right, and you talking about processors and graphics cards) is gonna be better. Faster at stock etc. Easier to overclock. Will need a higher source of power. About 800hz so the pc will last, as in for future upgrades..
And I don't know much about the card, but put up some details, eg mb/gb etc
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!PANDA said:
Well, obviously i5 (that's if I guessed right, and you talking about processors and graphics cards) is gonna be better. Faster at stock etc. Easier to overclock. Will need a higher source of power. About 800hz so the pc will last, as in for future upgrades..
And I don't know much about the card, but put up some details, eg mb/gb etc
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Erm... I believe that the 310m is a mobility card (read, stuck in laptops), otherwise I would have recommended that he beg his grandmother for cash to buy an AMD Radeon HD6950 NOW.

310m ... i wouldnt even call it a video card , get one with 335m ... theyre also available in $600 budget asus laptops
if u wanna play games , that laptop is gonna die on u , optimus or not
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-310M.22439.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-335M.24060.0.html
read both

Don't be nasty... some people really have the budget for only so much... and if you're talking about REAL GPUs...

The max I want to spend is around 600. Heavy gaming is not my forte but Ill be playing some MMORPGS.
Besides the 310m, how much difference is there between the i3 and i5?
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The Core i3-3xxM processors are based on Arrandale, the mobile version of the Clarkdale desktop processor. They are similar to the Core i5-4xx series but running at lower clock speeds and without Turbo Boost.[21]
no turbo boost .. and lower freq ... that means better battery ... the optimus one is looking better for a laptop configuration
but if ur not an nvidia fanatic and just need the best bang for the buck id go with this

Thank you for the input everyone! It made me think a little more!
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fezlopez said:
The max I want to spend is around 600. Heavy gaming is not my forte but Ill be playing some MMORPGS.
Besides the 310m, how much difference is there between the i3 and i5?
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Spot on. MMOs like WoW? The 310m will handle it just fine. The difference between i3 and i5 could be almost 10fps at laptop settings, because the GPU is underpowered.
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The Core i3-3xxM processors are based on Arrandale, the mobile version of the Clarkdale desktop processor. They are similar to the Core i5-4xx series but running at lower clock speeds and without Turbo Boost.[21]
no turbo boost .. and lower freq ... that means better battery ... the optimus one is looking better for a laptop configuration
but if ur not an nvidia fanatic and just need the best bang for the buck id go with this
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Well, the i3 and i5 are on the same architecture, so... turbo boost and higher frequency just means that the processor is more capable if and when it is needed. Gaming is going to suck the hell out of your battery no matter what you do, unless you intentionally cripple your CPU and GPU.
Your suggestion seems a little overpowering, but the specs are good for the price. Nice find

Pop quiz! AMD or Intel?

So I'm working on my new computer, and I need help! I'm looking into bulldozer, but it keeps getting delayed. I feel like we may be seeing i9 before Bulldozer.
I'm looking for good performance, for a little bit less.
Opinions? No flaming!

Chandelure said:
So I'm working on my new computer, and I need help! I'm looking into bulldozer, but it keeps getting delayed. I feel like we may be seeing i9 before Bulldozer.
I'm looking for good performance, for a little bit less.
Opinions? No flaming!
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The Intel Core i5 would be nice.....because I've not been following up on AMD lately.....
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AMD fanboy since day one. Seriously, just buy whatever you can afford.

It depends. What do you plan on using this rig for?
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Currently i7 rules but bulldozer and ivy-bridge may change that
Also it'll depend on ur budget and what you plan using the rig for

bradleyG said:
It depends. What do you plan on using this rig for?
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Development.
And i7 is far to many $$$
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Well if i7 is out of your budget an AMD Phenom II x6 is real cheap right now with bulldozer around the corner (This is what I currently have).
I honestly would wait for bulldozer so you aren't feeling buyers remorse once it comes out. I highly doubt you will be able to afford ivy bridge if you can't afford i7. Intel is soo pricey.

if ur budget is less than 500$ than amd if more than that move to intel..

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Development.
And i7 is far to many $$$
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I recommend those fast i5s .
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2600K at 300$

I have the quad core i5 750 Oc'ed to 4Ghz with no problems and only a cheap upgrade to stock cooling.
It FLIES!
Half the cost of an i7 too
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How did u oc it?
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How did u oc it?
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jsplace said:
I have the quad core i5 750 Oc'ed to 4Ghz with no problems and only a cheap upgrade to stock cooling.
It FLIES!
Half the cost of an i7 too
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Have a first generation core I5 processor coupled to am Asus motherboard !! Overclocked from stock 2.8 ghz to 3.5 ghz with just the right air cooling products and a good processor fan and heat sink combo !
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Amd. Will not buy intel.
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had you asked this question 2-3 years ago I would have said Amd hands down. On-die memory controller used to make all the difference. Now that Intel has on-die memory controllers with their core i3/5/7 line, Amd is definitely lagging behind in performance. I'd still recomend a black edition phenom II x4 or x6 for someone who loves to tweak and game out, but if you've got the cash, Intel sure seems to be the ring leader lately.
I had a 9550 BE phenom I, in a nice desktop system, ran it at 3ghz stable, was a fast box. Was given an hp dv6-3050ca which has an i5 in it, with the fancy on die memory controller and video acceleration. Wow was I EVER impressed at the progress intel has made, I even managed to run fallout new vegas at 15-20fps on low settings on this thing. We're talking intel graphics here, integrated. They've made leaps and bounds in the past few years. I currently have a Core i7 720qm sitting in a asus g73jh; I'd say it has a bit of a low clock speed with all 4 cores engaged, but with 8 threads, what's the difference. Takes a Phenom II x6 to match the same level of performance. Though either can be had new for about the same price.
Intel i7's are pricey as all hell, and unless you've got cash to dump and are looking for extreme performance, you'll probably be more than happy with an Amd. If you're looking to game matching up a nice Amd/Ati motherboard with an Ati video card, really does wonders in terms of compatibility, I've built a few myself and they were painless builds. Intels tend to be more efficient, expecially in the mobile arena. There's something sexy about a 140W cpu though, and that's where the phenom II line shines, they chew up power like nazi's chew up amphetamines, and they chew through like raped apes.
All in all amd is a good start/middleroad for the money, but for true high end power, or mobile efficiency stick to intel. I've noticed a trend across all cpu manufacturers, the more on die cache, the better. 2mb extra cache is worth more than 600mhz, imho.
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I think the biggest problem of AMD is compatibility. Usually They don't work truely in some Linux Distros.

Pure preference. What's your budget?

Hmmm, sounds like i5 it is. Thanks guys!

Chandelure said:
Hmmm, sounds like i5 it is. Thanks guys!
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one more thing, AMD heats fast. it can cook your PC within 8 hours

GPU Suggestions, GTX560TI Top or wait for Kepler?

Hey guys, just wondering if anyone has any knowledge / opinions regarding graphics cards. I'm tossing up weather to buy an Asus GTX 560Ti TOP as they seem to be fantastic for the price point ATM..... or wait for the new nVidia chipset release? Any ideas !?

How is the rest of your system looking? It might be a bit of an overkill, i would go with the GTX560 of 580, It should be ok for the next 2 years. Are you a hardcore gamer?

Hey mate, I'm not really a hard-core gamer but i figure for the price point i might as well go for it, plus a little bit of headroom would be nice.
Intel i7-2600k
8GB G-Skill DDR3 18600
60GB Sata 6Gbps SSD (For OS)
Various Drives for storage.
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO

freekaleekuk said:
Hey mate, I'm not really a hard-core gamer but i figure for the price point i might as well go for it, plus a little bit of headroom would be nice.
Intel i7-2600k
8GB G-Skill DDR3 18600
60GB Sata 6Gbps SSD (For OS)
Various Drives for storage.
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO
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The 560 will give you some headroom too. And later down tbe road when prices drop on the Kepler drop you can upgrade to that one. Are you an overclocker? Squeeze a bit more out of the 2600k and 560 and you wont notice any real-life performance difference from the Kepler.

If Kepler flops like what I'm hearing I'll be pee'd off as I'm hoping for a price war at the high end so I can upgrade my GTX580.

Intratech said:
If Kepler flops like what I'm hearing I'll be pee'd off as I'm hoping for a price war at the high end so I can upgrade my GTX580.
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Then you can sell your GTX580 to the OP since he isnt a hardcore gamer and everybody is happy. Solution found! Damn, I'm good. Lol.
I dont know if I would purchase such a high end video card the second it came out. I would wait like 5 months or until a second revision of the product so they can work out bugs with drivers or even with the manufacturing process.

Not to change the direction or anything but have you taken a look over at AMD? i use both products and the 7000 series is pretty good not to mention its latest and greatest 7990 6GB GDDR5 lol way too much ($800). but anyways....
I use the AMD XFX HD 6770 and need to upgrade but if Nvidia is what your looking at you might want to get the GTX 570?

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Not to change the direction or anything but have you taken a look over at AMD? i use both products and the 7000 series is pretty good not to mention its latest and greatest 7990 6GB GDDR5 lol way too much ($800). but anyways....
I use the AMD XFX HD 6770 and need to upgrade but if Nvidia is what your looking at you might want to get the GTX 570?
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I use AMD..but 680GTX .. O_O

OmegaRED^ said:
I use AMD..but 680GTX .. O_O
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yeah but the 680 like the 580, 590 has problems with overclocking.
I rather have a stable card then a blazing fast card that will only last me a month

bigboxrate said:
nVidia seems to be better
But a little expensive I think
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Well it depends on what works best if you have intel Nvidia works best plus the processor speed too etc.....

680 GTX i tested a beta board for 2 weeks.
No issue's.. just damn power hungry.
I would suggest... once they revise and prices have dropped.
Else.. radeon makes some OP cards as well.
Memory
But basically aim for a 2GB Gddr5 card.. ^_^
Bus Width
Always check the bus width.. the wider the better. ^-^ 128 bit cards mostly suck. 256bit and upward are Can be OP cards..
Core clock speeds..
idk.. depend on manufacturer revision.. Higher clocks are almost always better.
Some cards like nvidia have shader and cuda engines... the may have separate clocks..
If you find a card you like... google it and see how it stacks up.. there are many sites will to provide info. ^_^
Good luck guy.

I disagree with the post above nvdia usually generate a lot less heat compare to amd and the definitely generate a lot less power.
In my opinion the best graphic card suited for the operator is hd6950 because of the price point and you can flash the bios to hd 6970 make it one of the best bang for buck .
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dD's custom gaming rig thread!

Aight ot, its time to build myself a overpowered gaming machine
Amount to spend $3000 give or take a few hundred.
Picked out a case already: http://www.epcservices.com/proddetail.asp?prod=3003023
So feel free to throw down your suggestions, and I'll update this thread to show my progress

Cool man! With your budget, this thing is gonna kick some ass.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130797 VGA
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501 CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233232 RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160 Case (better than urs)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131850 Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443 SSD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._Keyboards_&_Mice-_-Hot_Deal-_-26-201-003 Mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823114011 Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844 HDD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171055 Power supply
Well i didn't count the total cost but if you want a high end pc these items are the best of the best, enjoy

32 gigs of RAM, unless your board supports 64GB.
2 X NVIDIA Dual GeForce GTX 580 in SLI
Core i7 Extreme CPU
That leaves you with about 1000 for everything else, which is more than enough for a pretty large SSD

Hmm I spent 450 usd on my build and its decent enough
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
Cool man! With your budget, this thing is gonna kick some ass.
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Yes indeed it is I desided it was time to step things up from this crappy $600 acer.
tarekkkkk said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160 Case (better than urs)
Well i didn't count the total cost but if you want a high end pc these items are the best of the best, enjoy
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I chose that case based purely on aesthetics only... and I'm sticking to it
Thanks for all the other sugestions though, ill look into them all.
jaszek said:
32 gigs of RAM, unless your board supports 64GB.
2 X NVIDIA Dual GeForce GTX 580 in SLI
Core i7 Extreme CPU
That leaves you with about 1000 for everything else, which is more than enough for a pretty large SSD
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Thank you.
scoffyburito said:
Hmm I spent 450 usd on my build and its decent enough
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m1l4droid said:
I suggest going for ATI Radeon. I've had a 4850 for 3 years, and it still kicks ass. I run Skyrim on 1 lower than the highest quality, on at least 30 fps and 1680x1050 resolution.
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I'm a nvidia fan myself, but thanks.