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[Q] Nvidia Optimus or Not?

I was thinking of getting a lappy with
310m with i3, with Nvidia Optimus
or
310m with i5, without Nvidia Optimus?
Both are about the same price.
What do you guys think?

Save up for Sandy Bridge. It seems to bring about double the FPS rate in games, without the burden of a discrete card.
But, to answer your question, Optimus will only save battery. If you are looking to save battery, go for the Optimus.
If you are going to have some level of gaming on you laptop, go for the i5. There will be about 5-10 fps increase at least for games.
For reference, I can play COD4 and Dragon Age:Origins on a 210m at 1280*720 resolutions with all eye-candy tuned down.
One last note, if you wanna game, go for a desktop.
p/s: A lot of guesswork here, but I am assuming that you are getting a discrete mobility graphics for gaming amirite?

Well, obviously i5 (that's if I guessed right, and you talking about processors and graphics cards) is gonna be better. Faster at stock etc. Easier to overclock. Will need a higher source of power. About 800hz so the pc will last, as in for future upgrades..
And I don't know much about the card, but put up some details, eg mb/gb etc
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!PANDA said:
Well, obviously i5 (that's if I guessed right, and you talking about processors and graphics cards) is gonna be better. Faster at stock etc. Easier to overclock. Will need a higher source of power. About 800hz so the pc will last, as in for future upgrades..
And I don't know much about the card, but put up some details, eg mb/gb etc
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Erm... I believe that the 310m is a mobility card (read, stuck in laptops), otherwise I would have recommended that he beg his grandmother for cash to buy an AMD Radeon HD6950 NOW.

310m ... i wouldnt even call it a video card , get one with 335m ... theyre also available in $600 budget asus laptops
if u wanna play games , that laptop is gonna die on u , optimus or not
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-310M.22439.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-335M.24060.0.html
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Don't be nasty... some people really have the budget for only so much... and if you're talking about REAL GPUs...

The max I want to spend is around 600. Heavy gaming is not my forte but Ill be playing some MMORPGS.
Besides the 310m, how much difference is there between the i3 and i5?
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The Core i3-3xxM processors are based on Arrandale, the mobile version of the Clarkdale desktop processor. They are similar to the Core i5-4xx series but running at lower clock speeds and without Turbo Boost.[21]
no turbo boost .. and lower freq ... that means better battery ... the optimus one is looking better for a laptop configuration
but if ur not an nvidia fanatic and just need the best bang for the buck id go with this

Thank you for the input everyone! It made me think a little more!
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fezlopez said:
The max I want to spend is around 600. Heavy gaming is not my forte but Ill be playing some MMORPGS.
Besides the 310m, how much difference is there between the i3 and i5?
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Spot on. MMOs like WoW? The 310m will handle it just fine. The difference between i3 and i5 could be almost 10fps at laptop settings, because the GPU is underpowered.
souljaboy said:
The Core i3-3xxM processors are based on Arrandale, the mobile version of the Clarkdale desktop processor. They are similar to the Core i5-4xx series but running at lower clock speeds and without Turbo Boost.[21]
no turbo boost .. and lower freq ... that means better battery ... the optimus one is looking better for a laptop configuration
but if ur not an nvidia fanatic and just need the best bang for the buck id go with this
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Well, the i3 and i5 are on the same architecture, so... turbo boost and higher frequency just means that the processor is more capable if and when it is needed. Gaming is going to suck the hell out of your battery no matter what you do, unless you intentionally cripple your CPU and GPU.
Your suggestion seems a little overpowering, but the specs are good for the price. Nice find

First time buying a macboook: Doubts

I'm gonna get a macbook pro, keep in mind i will be selling my desktop pc and the mac will be my main device,i'll take it to the institute, etc i'm going start a graphic design course soon and naturally i will be usiong, corel, photoshop, and i suppose a little of video editing .
I plan on getting the 15" model, the 13" is a little small for my taste and the 17" model is off the budget and also i think it enters desktop territory ( is too big for a laptop) .
I've got a couple of doubts:
1.AMD Radeon HD 6490M with 256MB GDDR5 vs AMD Radeon HD 6750M with 1GB GDDR5 ? i know 1 gb sounds a lot better, but ive been told it only matters if im going to play videogames at large resolutions aka 1920x 1200
2.750GB 5400-rpm hdd vs 500GB 7200 rpm hdd , i already have an external 2 tb hard drive so i might be able to sacrifice the extra 250 gb for the increased speed, but does the 7200 hdd makes the mac run considerably hotter?
3.Choosing the 1680x1050 display over the standard 1440x900 is a no brainer, i wish there was a 1920x 1200 display instead but how is the Antiglare Widescreen Display worth the extra 150 $ ? how do they achieve the antiglare? won't the colors look dull or over satured?

I wish i could give you some good answers, but that's not the case, but i would go for the one with 1GB GDDR5, 500GB 7200 RPM HDD and of course the 1680x1050 display.
Regarding the GPU, won't it be better with the 1GB if you're going to edit videos?

1) 256 mb should be fine if you're not gaming
2) 7200 rpm will be faster and seeing as you have the external you may aswell, but it could be louder and it will not get too hot AFAIK
3) better display obv antiglare doesn't make image bad and it. Looks nice but imo its not wow like the glossy, professionals seem to prefer matte, maybe go down to the nearest apple store?
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Mainly CPU is used.. but some software can be aided by gpu.. however I'm not sure. If you'll notice much difference also op.. just checking are you going for quad i7, if not.. I'd reccomed more than the gpu
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I wish i could give you some good answers, but that's not the case, but i would go for the one with 1GB GDDR5, 500GB 7200 RPM HDD and of course the 1680x1050 display.
Regarding the GPU, won't it be better with the 1GB if you're going to edit videos?
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MacaronyMax said:
3) better display obv antiglare doesn't make image bad and it. Looks nice but imo its not wow like the glossy, professionals seem to prefer matte, maybe go down to the nearest apple store?
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Wow like the glossy? what do you mean? is the gloosy more saturated?

It looks more vibrant imo.. and just stands out,
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Wow like the glossy? what do you mean? is the gloosy more saturated?
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MacaronyMax said:
Mainly CPU is used.. but some software can be aided by gpu.. however I'm not sure. If you'll notice much difference also op.. just checking are you going for quad i7, if not.. I'd reccomed more than the gpu
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Yup, im going for the quad core i7 @ 2.2 GHz , the offer a quad core i7 @ 2.3 GHz for 250 $ extra dollars :/ just for 0.1 ghz? that's a steal, they dont even specifiy what cpus they're selling
I had forgotten sometimes the cpu switches to the gpu to render websites and play hd videos , i'll keep that in mind
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It looks more vibrant imo.. and just stands out,
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Searching online, looks there's a lot of divided opinions in the glossy vs matte subject, gonna have to check it out in person, naturally

LG Optimus 4X HD

This phone has the potential to be a beast. This has nothing to with the Evo 3D but you might as well read up a bit while you guys wait for ICS.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/22/lg-optimus-4x-hd-unveiled-quad-core-tegra-3-ice-cream-sandwich/

Damn, this phone looks like it will raise the bar for all the other phones, just like the Evo 4G did.
4.7 inch, HD (could be higher def), quad core - the perfect phone for mobile gaming

Pretty much. I think it will need a bigger battery. 2000+ or whatever won't cut it.

That phone does indeed look like a beast, and I look forward to MWC 2012, where I hope that HTC can deliver an equally beastly phone

Funny thing is, with all the negativity surrounding its predecessor, the Optimus 2X, previous owners are highly skeptical lol. They hate LG with a passion.
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Not impressed
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/23/lgs-upcoming-mwc-lineup-runs-into-some-italians-gets-documente/
engadget just dropped a video looks so smooth its in italian thou lol
im digging it so far. only thing im waiting to see is if a quad core a15 chip gets dropped at MWC. the tegra 3 is nice and im sure the exynos quad core will be very nice but they r both a9's. i believe the dual core a15's match up or beat the a9 quad cores so imagine an a15 quad core dont take my word for it thou haha im pretty sure i read that somewhere
only a couple days left cant wait. ill most likely get a dual core a15 over a tegra 3 need to see how they stack up next to each other!

swaze said:
Not impressed
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Yep... Pretty much

dylan6879 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/23/lgs-upcoming-mwc-lineup-runs-into-some-italians-gets-documente/
engadget just dropped a video looks so smooth its in italian thou lol
im digging it so far. only thing im waiting to see is if a quad core a15 chip gets dropped at MWC. the tegra 3 is nice and im sure the exynos quad core will be very nice but they r both a9's. i believe the dual core a15's match up or beat the a9 quad cores so imagine an a15 quad core dont take my word for it thou haha im pretty sure i read that somewhere
only a couple days left cant wait. ill most likely get a dual core a15 over a tegra 3 need to see how they stack up next to each other!
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Texas instruments just showcased dualcore A15 omap.it beats the tegra 3 and its just clocked at 800mhz.so imagine a 2ghz one.
Full article here
http://www.slashgear.com/ti-omap-5-blows-past-quadcore-tegra-3-23215003/
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josephnero said:
Texas instruments just showcased dualcore A15 omap.it beats the tegra 3 and its just clocked at 800mhz.so imagine a 2ghz one.
Full article here
http://www.slashgear.com/ti-omap-5-blows-past-quadcore-tegra-3-23215003/
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Ha yeah I thought so. That's insane can't wait to see these things fly I'll be skipping the whole quad core trend for one of these unless of course there happens to be some magical quad core a15. Performance over big numbers haha.. hope Sprint shows something off at MWC even thou they normally don't.
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dylan6879 said:
Ha yeah I thought so. That's insane can't wait to see these things fly I'll be skipping the whole quad core trend for one of these unless of course there happens to be some magical quad core a15. Performance over big numbers haha.. hope Sprint shows something off at MWC even thou they normally don't.
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have fun waiting till Q1 2013.
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I haven't heard anything about a microsd card in this thing yet. Am I missing something or does that seem to be the case? I don't want anything to do with a phone that doesn't have microsd.
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have fun waiting till Q1 2013.
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well now i meant an a15 processor TI isnt the only company announcing them. wait now that i look r they i thought there was more? what is the new sanpdragon krait based on? someone knowledgable chime in pls! and for the moment i dont mind waiting haha my 3d is still perfect in my eyes im just a tech junkie and whenever there is something new i either sell mine or hand it on down in the family and jump on the newest
wish it was as easy to do with my car

dylan6879 said:
well now i meant an a15 processor TI isnt the only company announcing them. wait now that i look r they i thought there was more? what is the new sanpdragon krait based on? someone knowledgable chime in pls! and for the moment i dont mind waiting haha my 3d is still perfect in my eyes im just a tech junkie and whenever there is something new i either sell mine or hand it on down in the family and jump on the newest
wish it was as easy to do with my car
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Pretty sure Qualcomm's S4 chips r A15 based, also being built with 28nm processing...that's where the difference is being seen. Smaller chips much more efficient in the end.
What's funny is Samsung is going to be showing off their new chips at MWC and they only went down to 32nm with A9 cores for the quad chip shown on engadget...
Thought it was a tad odd though Samsung only making it to 32nm while everyone else is pushing for 28nm and lower. Hell Intel stated they are shooting for 14nm at CES if i remember right! They will be one to keep an eye on in the long run. Imho
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Garbage
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Pretty sure Qualcomm's S4 chips r A15 based, also being built with 28nm processing...that's where the difference is being seen. Smaller chips much more efficient in the end.
What's funny is Samsung is going to be showing off their new chips at MWC and they only went down to 32nm with A9 cores for the quad chip shown on engadget...
Thought it was a tad odd though Samsung only making it to 32nm while everyone else is pushing for 28nm and lower. Hell Intel stated they are shooting for 14nm at CES if i remember right! They will be one to keep an eye on in the long run. Imho
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i thought the snapdragon s4 was but i wasnt sure, tried to search it and couldnt find anywere that mentions its an a15 although im sure it is. was thinking the same thing as i read that everyone is going to 28nm and samsung of everyone is only going down to 32nm but u know it will be a very nice one.
definitely need to keep an eye on intel i havent been impressed with what theyve shown off so far but them being intel they have the background and resources to make some serious competition around here. 14nm is crazy mwc hasnt even started and i cant wait for ces..

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Pretty sure Qualcomm's S4 chips r A15 based, also being built with 28nm processing...that's where the difference is being seen. Smaller chips much more efficient in the end.
What's funny is Samsung is going to be showing off their new chips at MWC and they only went down to 32nm with A9 cores for the quad chip shown on engadget...
Thought it was a tad odd though Samsung only making it to 32nm while everyone else is pushing for 28nm and lower. Hell Intel stated they are shooting for 14nm at CES if i remember right! They will be one to keep an eye on in the long run. Imho
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I read in andtech that S4 is modified architecture with a performance between A9 and A15.still sounds awesome
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That video was impressive. But I don't like lg phones....
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z50king said:
That video was impressive. But I don't like lg phones....
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same here bro.i never trust LG

josephnero said:
I read in andtech that S4 is modified architecture with a performance between A9 and A15.still sounds awesome
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yeah your right to an extent but its NOT "between" them its inline with A15 if not better...the write up at anandtech.com about the new S4's benchmarking is really well done. As are their other write ups concerning the chip.
...Qualcomm, unlike most ARM chip makers, does not license the architecture for its application processors directly from ARM Holdings. Instead, it designs its own cores in-house and simply licenses the ARM instruction set. At the most basic level, Qualcomm’s Krait core is more advanced than Cortex-A9, the current standard from ARM, and it may even best the next-generation Cortex-A15 core....
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GPU Suggestions, GTX560TI Top or wait for Kepler?

Hey guys, just wondering if anyone has any knowledge / opinions regarding graphics cards. I'm tossing up weather to buy an Asus GTX 560Ti TOP as they seem to be fantastic for the price point ATM..... or wait for the new nVidia chipset release? Any ideas !?

How is the rest of your system looking? It might be a bit of an overkill, i would go with the GTX560 of 580, It should be ok for the next 2 years. Are you a hardcore gamer?

Hey mate, I'm not really a hard-core gamer but i figure for the price point i might as well go for it, plus a little bit of headroom would be nice.
Intel i7-2600k
8GB G-Skill DDR3 18600
60GB Sata 6Gbps SSD (For OS)
Various Drives for storage.
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Hey mate, I'm not really a hard-core gamer but i figure for the price point i might as well go for it, plus a little bit of headroom would be nice.
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The 560 will give you some headroom too. And later down tbe road when prices drop on the Kepler drop you can upgrade to that one. Are you an overclocker? Squeeze a bit more out of the 2600k and 560 and you wont notice any real-life performance difference from the Kepler.

If Kepler flops like what I'm hearing I'll be pee'd off as I'm hoping for a price war at the high end so I can upgrade my GTX580.

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If Kepler flops like what I'm hearing I'll be pee'd off as I'm hoping for a price war at the high end so I can upgrade my GTX580.
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Then you can sell your GTX580 to the OP since he isnt a hardcore gamer and everybody is happy. Solution found! Damn, I'm good. Lol.
I dont know if I would purchase such a high end video card the second it came out. I would wait like 5 months or until a second revision of the product so they can work out bugs with drivers or even with the manufacturing process.

Not to change the direction or anything but have you taken a look over at AMD? i use both products and the 7000 series is pretty good not to mention its latest and greatest 7990 6GB GDDR5 lol way too much ($800). but anyways....
I use the AMD XFX HD 6770 and need to upgrade but if Nvidia is what your looking at you might want to get the GTX 570?

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Not to change the direction or anything but have you taken a look over at AMD? i use both products and the 7000 series is pretty good not to mention its latest and greatest 7990 6GB GDDR5 lol way too much ($800). but anyways....
I use the AMD XFX HD 6770 and need to upgrade but if Nvidia is what your looking at you might want to get the GTX 570?
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I use AMD..but 680GTX .. O_O

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I use AMD..but 680GTX .. O_O
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yeah but the 680 like the 580, 590 has problems with overclocking.
I rather have a stable card then a blazing fast card that will only last me a month

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nVidia seems to be better
But a little expensive I think
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Well it depends on what works best if you have intel Nvidia works best plus the processor speed too etc.....

680 GTX i tested a beta board for 2 weeks.
No issue's.. just damn power hungry.
I would suggest... once they revise and prices have dropped.
Else.. radeon makes some OP cards as well.
Memory
But basically aim for a 2GB Gddr5 card.. ^_^
Bus Width
Always check the bus width.. the wider the better. ^-^ 128 bit cards mostly suck. 256bit and upward are Can be OP cards..
Core clock speeds..
idk.. depend on manufacturer revision.. Higher clocks are almost always better.
Some cards like nvidia have shader and cuda engines... the may have separate clocks..
If you find a card you like... google it and see how it stacks up.. there are many sites will to provide info. ^_^
Good luck guy.

I disagree with the post above nvdia usually generate a lot less heat compare to amd and the definitely generate a lot less power.
In my opinion the best graphic card suited for the operator is hd6950 because of the price point and you can flash the bios to hd 6970 make it one of the best bang for buck .
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dD's custom gaming rig thread!

Aight ot, its time to build myself a overpowered gaming machine
Amount to spend $3000 give or take a few hundred.
Picked out a case already: http://www.epcservices.com/proddetail.asp?prod=3003023
So feel free to throw down your suggestions, and I'll update this thread to show my progress

Cool man! With your budget, this thing is gonna kick some ass.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130797 VGA
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501 CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233232 RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160 Case (better than urs)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131850 Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443 SSD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._Keyboards_&_Mice-_-Hot_Deal-_-26-201-003 Mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823114011 Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844 HDD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171055 Power supply
Well i didn't count the total cost but if you want a high end pc these items are the best of the best, enjoy

32 gigs of RAM, unless your board supports 64GB.
2 X NVIDIA Dual GeForce GTX 580 in SLI
Core i7 Extreme CPU
That leaves you with about 1000 for everything else, which is more than enough for a pretty large SSD

Hmm I spent 450 usd on my build and its decent enough
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Cool man! With your budget, this thing is gonna kick some ass.
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Yes indeed it is I desided it was time to step things up from this crappy $600 acer.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160 Case (better than urs)
Well i didn't count the total cost but if you want a high end pc these items are the best of the best, enjoy
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I chose that case based purely on aesthetics only... and I'm sticking to it
Thanks for all the other sugestions though, ill look into them all.
jaszek said:
32 gigs of RAM, unless your board supports 64GB.
2 X NVIDIA Dual GeForce GTX 580 in SLI
Core i7 Extreme CPU
That leaves you with about 1000 for everything else, which is more than enough for a pretty large SSD
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Thank you.
scoffyburito said:
Hmm I spent 450 usd on my build and its decent enough
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m1l4droid said:
I suggest going for ATI Radeon. I've had a 4850 for 3 years, and it still kicks ass. I run Skyrim on 1 lower than the highest quality, on at least 30 fps and 1680x1050 resolution.
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I'm a nvidia fan myself, but thanks.