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Should I run and buy one?

I just found out about Honeycomb being ported to the Nook Color and am wondering if I should run to buy one before they change it to prevent rooting.
I like tablets as a form factor but thought prices starting at 500 EUR were out of whack for devices with such limited functionality; at less than 250 EUR they become mightily tempting.
How does the Nook Color hold up as a Honeycomb device? Is it fast enough to handle the OS smoothly? Is the port stable enough for daily use (this is crucial to me, I do not want to be stuck with any non tablet optimized version of Android)? Where can I buy one in Italy? The lack of 3G connectivity or even GPS is not a deal breaker to me at that price.

As of now, Honeycomb kind of sux. It is slow, buggy, lot of applications won't even run (the ones that do are stable) and battery life is very bad. This is my experience.
Developers are doing great job, but if you want something, that is not just a gimmick, you will have to wait until HC is finally released by Google and not just a port from SDK.

Awwwwww

But to answer your original question. Yes, run out and buy one anyways. It's a great device at a great price. Even though HC isn't perfect yet, it is very usable in my opinion, but as another user mentioned some apps don't work currently and I reverted to CM7 for now, which I must say after a few nightly updates is currently working really welll.

If you are ready to get your hands dirty with some rooting, then install the latest CM7 (cyanogenmod) nighty. Go to CM7 Dev discussion thread to learn more. Works like a charm. Best ROM for Nook thus far!

Yeah I agree, I really like it, haven't touched my gtablet since i bought one and rooted it. I like the 7 inch size.

I'm using the NC with Honeycomb and am using it as my daily driver. Most application issues (other than video) have been fixed for me by moving the application to internal storage. For some reason apps are installing to the SD card by default, which is causing most of the problems.
I also use the eReader.com software since I'd already bought a ton of books long before B&N ever thought of buying them up. The only time I got an error with that app was when I set the app to NOT do animations when changing pages.
As to your origional questions, the NC boots with the SD Card first and then to internal memory. Without changing the hardware, there is no way that B&N can stop us from these mods. So now or later doesn't really figure into it.
That said, I think you should get one as soon as possible! lol... I love mine! I use it over my Sansung Tab due to it's form factor and solidness. With the 1.1GHz overclocked kernel it is a really nice unit. Most emmc distros of Honeycomb already include the 1.1 kernel so install is a breeze!
I can't help you with the whole Italy thing... But wish you luck!

What's the best internal rom?

Ok, I'm a little overwhelmed by the number of nook roms out there, and I would like to know what everyone uses and why.
I've tried 2, and they all have benefits/negatives and I'm trying to figure out which to be my daily driver, while we wait for the next generation of roms to come about.

constellanation said:
Ok, I'm a little overwhelmed by the number of nook roms out there, and I would like to know what everyone uses and why.
I've tried 2, and they all have benefits/negatives and I'm trying to figure out which to be my daily driver, while we wait for the next generation of roms to come about.
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well which 2 have you already tried?

I personally use CyanogenMod 7, but that's because I use it on my Droid, and that's because it's the first ROM I found when I got my droid.
I haven't had it crash on me yet, but there was a Wi-Fi problem I had to fix through ADB. (Link) Otherwise, it's been more than good enough for a daily driver. I really haven't had experience with other ROMs. I just flashed the thing with CM7 while I was still in B&N. I would recommend a Honeycomb ROM, but that's not very "complete" yet.
Sorry I can't say much else (), but I gave my $.02.

barrist said:
well which 2 have you already tried?
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I wasn't going to mention them so I could hear everyone's full opinion despite what I've tried and not hold back because I've tried it.
However, I don't want to be a **** so it's cm7 and HC v.4 now don't let that sway your opinions!

dkabot said:
I personally use CyanogenMod 7, but that's because I use it on my Droid, and that's because it's the first ROM I found when I got my droid.
I haven't had it crash on me yet, but there was a Wi-Fi problem I had to fix through ADB. (Link) Otherwise, it's been more than good enough for a daily driver. I really haven't had experience with other ROMs. I just flashed the thing with CM7 while I was still in B&N. I would recommend a Honeycomb ROM, but that's not very "complete" yet.
Sorry I can't say much else (), but I gave my $.02.
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I was having the wifi issues to (Atleast I assume it's the same, I would just lose connection and have to reconnect pretty consistently) the thing that actually bothered me most about it was the back and menu buttons up at the top right. To small, wanted a different more tablety layout.

constellanation said:
I was having the wifi issues to (Atleast I assume it's the same, I would just lose connection and have to reconnect pretty consistently) the thing that actually bothered me most about it was the back and menu buttons up at the top right. To small, wanted a different more tablety layout.
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Oh, no the Wi-Fi issue was much worse. I couldn't get the chip to activate! At least the fix worked, though.
If "too small" is the problem, increase the LCD Density.
If you want a more tablet-like layout, you will have to deal with Honeycomb in its current state.
If you don't like the CM7 buttons, use SoftKeys or Button Savior.
(I would post links, but I can't.)

I tried soft keys, but I haven't tried button savior. and didn't know about lcd density. If I go back (which isn't in my nature with roms) I may try it out.
I'm really liking honeycomb especially as far as layout, but I would like a bit more stability. But really I Can live with whatever, the nook is really my fourth internet device and currently just a toy.

constellanation said:
I tried soft keys, but I haven't tried button savior. and didn't know about lcd density. If I go back (which isn't in my nature with roms) I may try it out.
I'm really liking honeycomb especially as far as layout, but I would like a bit more stability. But really I Can live with whatever, the nook is really my fourth internet device and currently just a toy.
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The solution is patience, then.
Wait for the Google to give us the source, and all your problems will be solved.
(Don't forget that HC is a port of the SDK emulator image.)

well I knew that, that's why I wanted to know what everyone else is using so maybe I could try some other things out... during that wait it out time

Well... if you want to try a Galaxy Tab-like experience, try this:
Install Nookie Froyo
Set LCD Density to 250
Install ADW and set the app drawer to paged.
(Continue with other minor tweaks here)

i'm rolling nookie froyo 0.6.7, but i'm going to move up to 0.6.8 soon. i like it, but i'm sure honeycomb is much better. since the bugs in hc for the nook color are still being hammered out, though, i'm going to stick with the stable froyo rom for the time being.

dkabot said:
Well... if you want to try a Galaxy Tab-like experience, try this:
Install Nookie Froyo
Set LCD Density to 250
Install ADW and set the app drawer to paged.
(Continue with other minor tweaks here)
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Is this rom an actual port of the tab, or is it just made to look like the tab?
droiddoes69 said:
i'm rolling nookie froyo 0.6.7, but i'm going to move up to 0.6.8 soon. i like it, but i'm sure honeycomb is much better. since the bugs in hc for the nook color are still being hammered out, though, i'm going to stick with the stable froyo rom for the time being.
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Yeah this is kind of the info I was looking for, trying to see which roms had what features and still had the best stability.
HC is awesome, but not yet a daily driver (unless you're the adventurous type) I have a friend who is about to buy a nc for himself and he wants me to root it for him. I have no problems with a buggy rom for me, but for him I need stable yet best.

not sure where you are getting the idea that there are so many roms to choose from.
We have stock rooted, nookie froyo, honeycomb v3 and cyanogenmod (gingerbread).
there is one modified version of cyanogenmod -- firemod and one customized nookie froyo build. thats about it as far as i know... am i missing a bunch of roms somewhere?
you can try all of them out relatively quickly and form your own opinion but if you insist....
stock rooted is the most functional option at the moment. oc to 1100mhz for speed and other tweaks. nookie froyo is second with faster overall 'smoothness' but still has some bugs to work out. third is cyanogenmod which is quickly catching up to froyo and is my personal favorite. just needs video acceleration at this point. last is honeycomb but very fun to play with.

lafester said:
not sure where you are getting the idea that there are so many roms to choose from.
We have stock rooted, nookie froyo, honeycomb v3 and cyanogenmod (gingerbread).
there is one modified version of cyanogenmod -- firemod and one customized nookie froyo build. thats about it as far as i know... am i missing a bunch of roms somewhere?
you can try all of them out relatively quickly and form your own opinion but if you insist....
stock rooted is the most functional option at the moment. oc to 1100mhz for speed and other tweaks. nookie froyo is second with faster overall 'smoothness' but still has some bugs to work out. third is cyanogenmod which is quickly catching up to froyo and is my personal favorite. just needs video acceleration at this point. last is honeycomb but very fun to play with.
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That might be all of them, it seems a bit more for anyone walking into this dev thread, with the internal and on sdcard roms.
But seeing them listed out like this is very helpful thank you!
Is there large differences between the customized roms and their noncustomized origins?

personally id recommend rooted stock rom. Ive tried nookie froyo and honeycomb v4. Froyo was really slow. It was really frustrating browsing with it. Honeycomb is much faster than froyo but a lot of apps dont install. Stock rom was stable and I wasnt able to install just a couple of apps that I tried from the android market

personally, i'm only adventurous to the point of rooting. after that, i want stability. i don't mind staying a release or 2 behind the most recent releases just so i know the issues are being dealt with.
with froyo, i'm able to use my own launcher and customize pretty much to my liking. i still don't see all the apps i want in the market, but there are enough forum posts here and on android central that link you to apk downloads so that you can install them through adb. i've seen some fixes for this, but it seems to be an issue on both froyo and hc. hope this helps!

survivor_evil said:
personally id recommend rooted stock rom. Ive tried nookie froyo and honeycomb v4. Froyo was really slow. It was really frustrating browsing with it. Honeycomb is much faster than froyo but a lot of apps dont install. Stock rom was stable and I wasnt able to install just a couple of apps that I tried from the android market
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I didn't like how much the stock rom seemed like, well a nook color which is great but in this instance I wanted to get a tablet!
droiddoes69 said:
personally, i'm only adventurous to the point of rooting. after that, i want stability. i don't mind staying a release or 2 behind the most recent releases just so i know the issues are being dealt with.
with froyo, i'm able to use my own launcher and customize pretty much to my liking. i still don't see all the apps i want in the market, but there are enough forum posts here and on android central that link you to apk downloads so that you can install them through adb. i've seen some fixes for this, but it seems to be an issue on both froyo and hc. hope this helps!
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With my phone, I'm less adventurous, I have calmed down to where now I only put release candidate and stable cm roms.
However I got this nook for a really really great deal (100$ plus the cover) and I want to try out whatever I can (and if possible help, though I have little to none coding skills) I might have to try the froyo build out since it's technically the only one I Haven't tried based on the above list (minus the 2 custom roms)

I kinda wish there was a customized version of the stock rom.
I guess the oc kernel counts?

zealious said:
I kinda wish there was a customized version of the stock rom.
I guess the oc kernel counts?
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I actually just bought setcpu to try overclocking the kernals a little bit on my NC.
What would You customize about stock?

after flashing back to froyo i must say it is far better then I remembered.
maybe it's the newer kernels but it is fast and smooth. hardware video works which i was missing on cm7.
so i change my (current) order to nookie froyo, then stock rooted, followed by cm7 and then honeycomb. i would try them all though and see for yourself.

Is Nook Color in Limbo, or are we at the cusp?

Is Nook Color in Limbo, or are we at the cusp of something new?
I hope development for the Nook Color has not stagnated. Are we waiting for the new kernel or is there just nothing new on the horizon?
I am just wondering because I have been watching and waiting and it appears development has slowed up for the time being. Not implying anything, just looking to see if something new and wonderful is on the horizon???
I was so looking forward to Honeycomb and it seems Google has pulled the rug out from under us in some back room deal.
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What are you talking about? In limbo? Bluetooth, recent video fixes, new overclocked kernels, work on the next coming edition of kernel to prevent SOD. Man, you must be out of the loop or really impatient.

The Release Candidate of CM7 came out recently. That means a final release is eminent. That final release should include all these awesome tablet tweaks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002000
I don't know why you say development is slowing down. I have been flashing a new ROM everyday thanks to mad-murdock!

Im sorry, but what ARE you talking about? In the last month, both hardware accelleration for video and bluetooth were turned on. CM7 has reached release candidate stage, and our devs have said that work is progressing on both a newer kernel version, as well as fixes to the few remaining bugs. Maybe you should actually read some of those nifty development threads around here...
If i am coming off as rude... perhaps that is the intent. There are so many needless threads like this, where some reading and critcal thinking could answer alot of questions. I mean.. developent stopped? As it is, things are ramping up, and a quick read of the forum would show that. Add in the constant misleading talk about what the nook can and can't do, and it is rather frustrating. So yeah, I am venting, but i think it is well deserved.

On the contrary, I think that things are happening real fast. CM7 is heading for a stable release, Mad Murdock's tablet tweaks are a real innovation, as are brianf21's froyo status bar improvements, and real progress is being made in the kernel area - blue tooth, hardware acceleration, etc.
What more can we ask for?

only HC is at a minor hump, the rest are busy, and b&n update is dropping soon. you crazy!

had to chime in to see what the op is smoking...
cm7: hardware video acceleration, tablet tweaks, bluetooth, kernel mods.
froyo: status bar tweaks, 'nookie-comb' looks nice, new official rom coming soon
honeycomb: who cares. google screwed that one up so we wait for IC.

Honestly, right now I'm in limbo about WHICH custom, daily updated, feature rich build to use !
Rooted Stock is good enough for what I do, but then a few games didn't work... so i went to froyo... then tried CM7... then a custom froyo, then another CM7... (and a few hardlocks and flash to stocks in between)..
At this point i just want a "1.0" release of CM7, or for HC to become available... although i'm sure the weeks following HC will be daily build after daily build.
p.s. kinda jealous about the $300 Tegra2 tablet floating around.

Divine_Madcat said:
Im sorry, but what ARE you talking about? In the last month, both hardware accelleration for video and bluetooth were turned on. CM7 has reached release candidate stage, and our devs have said that work is progressing on both a newer kernel version, as well as fixes to the few remaining bugs. Maybe you should actually read some of those nifty development threads around here...
If i am coming off as rude... perhaps that is the intent. There are so many needless threads like this, where some reading and critcal thinking could answer alot of questions. I mean.. developent stopped? As it is, things are ramping up, and a quick read of the forum would show that. Add in the constant misleading talk about what the nook can and can't do, and it is rather frustrating. So yeah, I am venting, but i think it is well deserved.
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What madcat said
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roflmao
You want limbo?
My new Droid 2 Global has just one rom which works with global sim capability- flashed it shortly after I got it and no updates since.
Another crew did get D2 roms working on the D2G but no sim card use.
Nothing for months now...
My original DROID has more development work going on than THAT!
The NC has been fairly exciting as far as dev work since Christmas and the last month has been incredible...
I even saw a post fairly recently that leads me to think some folks are working on USB host.... Crossing my fingers on that one.
The last two weeks we have even had a guy working on tweaks for tablets that pretty much makes Honeycomb's issues irrelevant as far as I am concerned.
I'd say that is pretty good.

Sorry, not the intended result.
I guess I am waiting for BN to come out with Android 2.2, I wasn't denegrating all the hard work that has gone on here. A couple of developments have kinda skewed my perceptions, one of which is Honeycomb source being yanked, and the other is of course the expected update from BN not materializing yet... I guess I am getting a little impatient. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I am using Nookie Froyo at the moment and it is working, however I really liked Stock 1.1.0. but with the NC using Android 2.1 I can't do some things I'd like to do. It just seems to me that BN is dragging their feet. Hence my concerns.

As I understood your original post you are waiting for the official 2.2, not a developer build.
The last rumor that I heard (from these forums) was that it was to go out this month. (but that was a rumor)

Not really sure why people are flaming the OP so hard. Besides CM7 nook color development has practically stopped dead in its tracks. HC is stuck, froyo has been dead for a while.
So i can see how it seems that way unless you watch CM7 development it does look very dead. CM7 is usable enough that froyo is not really relevant and with googles decision to not open source HC means its pretty much dead in the water.

Actually with Tablet Tweaks, CM7 is still seeing updates almost every day. And there's I believe an Experimental Kernel hiding in the CM7 User Thread which seems to have cleaned up the Battery Life on CM7.
As far as the official 2.2 update... Who needs it when you've got CM7? I mean, even if it does come out and we nooter it, it's still not going to do everything that CM7's custom rom can.
HoneyComb, yeah it sucks that it's not coming out right away. And I was pretty upset myself, but with tablets coming out (with similar prices to the nook) that have HC already... I can wait.

notinterested said:
Not really sure why people are flaming the OP so hard. Besides CM7 nook color development has practically stopped dead in its tracks. HC is stuck, froyo has been dead for a while.
So i can see how it seems that way unless you watch CM7 development it does look very dead. CM7 is usable enough that froyo is not really relevant and with googles decision to not open source HC means its pretty much dead in the water.
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Why waste any more time (right now) on anything BUT CM7? I mean, yes, Froyo and Eclair are dead in the water, but that is good; it just means all the devs are working on the best system we have. When HC source drops, i expect most work on CM7 to dry up, and again move to the better OS.
So yes, dev is on one OS right now, but my oh my, what sweet dev it is. If you call that stagnation, you are crazy..

I'm eager for the bn update just because I like to actually us my nook as an ereader rather than just a tablet. I'm a big fan of the mags and the kid books. Besides, I get my cm7 fix on my dinc.
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Actually with Tablet Tweaks, CM7 is still seeing updates almost every day. And there's I believe an Experimental Kernel hiding in the CM7 User Thread which seems to have cleaned up the Battery Life on CM7.
As far as the official 2.2 update... Who needs it when you've got CM7? I mean, even if it does come out and we nooter it, it's still not going to do everything that CM7's custom rom can.
HoneyComb, yeah it sucks that it's not coming out right away. And I was pretty upset myself, but with tablets coming out (with similar prices to the nook) that have HC already... I can wait.
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if you know of such a kernel can you link to it?
Also if stock goes to 2.2 and gives us all ability to play flash and the extr speed improvements of a JIT compiler ad can then be nootered and overclocked, why would one need CM7? This way you also get the ui from B&N which includes built in back and menu buttons. It also includes the full B&N experience for reading magazines subscriptions books......You los that on custom Roms.
So while I laud the Devs work, getting nook color to froyo might make much of their work unnecessary, unless it gives them a better platform to make the NC even better.

Unless the stock update brings bluetooth, CM7 will always be better. Sure, i guess there are some people that want the ereader functionality, but there are those the enjoy better hardware functionality.
Not to mention, i guess i am one of few, but i really hated B&N's framework modifications, and really enjoy a stock Android UI..

Divine_Madcat said:
Unless the stock update brings bluetooth, CM7 will always be better. Sure, i guess there are some people that want the ereader functionality, but there are those the enjoy better hardware functionality.
Not to mention, i guess i am one of few, but i really hated B&N's framework modifications, and really enjoy a stock Android UI..
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I really hope someone manages to port over the slick reader app from stock to CM7.
I like reading on my nook but not at the cost of such horrible performance in everything else.

Divine_Madcat said:
Unless the stock update brings bluetooth, CM7 will always be better. Sure, i guess there are some people that want the ereader functionality, but there are those the enjoy better hardware functionality.
Not to mention, i guess i am one of few, but i really hated B&N's framework modifications, and really enjoy a stock Android UI..
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Bluetooth works awful at best.
Regular headset doesn't work and range is a foot.
So far most people have keyboard trouble. Seems ext. bluettoh gps seems to be the best bet. So for me a stock rom with all the current missing goodies fixed with nooter and o/c?
I'd be happy.
Outside of bluetooth, if you had fully supported 2.2 on your device so hardware accel video and flash worked perfectly and yet you still had the B&N experience when you wanted it for free instore reading and subscriptions .....what else would you really want?

What's next for stock rooted development?

I'm very happy with the manualnooter setup for the new update. I like the stock feel and apps while having the ability to overclock, use the market, etc. After all, I do use it for reading. But is there nothing more to develop with this setup until B&N releases a new update? Maybe the ability to merge specific CM7 features with it to gain performance if nothing else?
Honestly, I'm not seeing any reason these days to switch back to CM7. The only thing currently on my wishlist is better flash browsing performance. But that's more of a hardware issue than anything from what I've read.

Kayak83 said:
I'm very happy with the manualnooter setup for the new update. I like the stock feel and apps while having the ability to overclock, use the market, etc. After all, I do use it for reading. But is there nothing more to develop with this setup until B&N releases a new update? Maybe the ability to merge specific CM7 features with it to gain performance if nothing else?
Honestly, I'm not seeing any reason these days to switch back to CM7. The only thing currently on my wishlist is better flash browsing performance. But that's more of a hardware issue than anything from what I've read.
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Thankfully, all of the current developer resources are being spent on more fruitful ventures like CM7. Sorry, but sticking with the old OS is silly, unless you specifically need the nook app features. CM7 has more hardware features enabled, a new OS, and a good classic Android experience (none of B&N's blah framework).
I think the best that stock users can hope for is some newer kernels every now and then, but ill be honest; i really hope he keeps up with CM7 first and foremost. Again, it is the better OS, and more deserving of the development time.

Divine_Madcat said:
Thankfully, all of the current developer resources are being spent on more fruitful ventures like CM7. Sorry, but sticking with the old OS is silly, unless you specifically need the nook app features. CM7 has more hardware features enabled, a new OS, and a good classic Android experience (none of B&N's blah framework).
I think the best that stock users can hope for is some newer kernels every now and then, but ill be honest; i really hope he keeps up with CM7 first and foremost. Again, it is the better OS, and more deserving of the development time.
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Bluetooth thats not very useful/practical. Decreased battery life. No stock B&N reader app (the market one doesn't have near the stock's polish).
I'm not sure why this makes the ROOTED stock OS "silly." This is, of curse, coming from a non-developer/programmer. Standing plainly from a consumer perspective, I don't see the "blah" framework nor do i care since the performance seems to be nearly the same. I'm not getting into a Quadrant score argument here either .
That being said, honeycomb would be deserving of my attention....with the B&N reader. haha.
*I realize this might read as being negative, but I promise you it's not. I'm just carrying a conversation of the pros/cons. I obviously appreciate the development, whichever way it goes, because it benefits everybody.*

Kayak83 said:
Bluetooth thats not very useful/practical. Decreased battery life. No stock B&N reader app (the market one doesn't have near the stock's polish).
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Sorry, but that is crazy. The bluetooth is incredibly useful. It allows me to use the Nook as a standalone nav device (and let me tell you, nav on a 7" rocks), or use my bluetooth speaker set. The battery life is fine for what it is. even overclocked, i have never run out of battery in a heavy days use. Charge at night, and i am good to go. I understand the reader, which is why i gave it as the one exception.
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I'm not sure why this makes the ROOTED stock OS "silly." This is, of curse, coming from a non-developer/programmer. Standing plainly from a consumer perspective, I don't see the "blah" framework nor do i care since the performance seems to be nearly the same. I'm not getting into a Quadrant score argument here either .
That being said, honeycomb would be deserving of my attention....with the B&N reader. haha.
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I am talking as a consumer as well. I hated the changes B&N made to the Android look and feel. I understand it was done with the goal of making it an eReader, but given an alternative, i had no desire to keep it. Even benchmarks aside, Ginerbread has always felt faster (and has better app and memory management).
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*I realize this might read as being negative, but I promise you it's not. I'm just carrying a conversation of the pros/cons. I obviously appreciate the development, whichever way it goes, because it benefits everybody.*
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I have no problems with discussion.

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I understand the reader, which is why i gave it as the one exception.
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Yeah, but the reader is a pretty big exception depending on what you use the Nook Color for. While I can't see myself going back to stock OS from CM7, I have to say that the B&N reader in the market blows in comparison to what comes stock on the NC. Most critically, opening a book with highlighting can take 1 1/2 to 2 minutes on the App, wheras it's instant on the stock reader.
My Nook Color journey will be complete and I'll finally be able to use this thing the way I truly want when (1) Movies play as well on my NC as they did on BN OS 1.1, and (2) the Nook App for Android opens books as quickly as the stock reader does.

dsf3g said:
Yeah, but the reader is a pretty big exception depending on what you use the Nook Color for. While I can't see myself going back to stock OS from CM7, I have to say that the B&N reader in the market blows in comparison to what comes stock on the NC. Most critically, opening a book with highlighting can take 1 1/2 to 2 minutes on the App, wheras it's instant on the stock reader.
My Nook Color journey will be complete and I'll finally be able to use this thing the way I truly want when (1) Movies play as well on my NC as they did on BN OS 1.1, and (2) the Nook App for Android opens books as quickly as the stock reader does.
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The reader is the only reason I can justify having a tablet. The Transformer is REALLY tempting but I can't really find a specific use aside from the "because I can," attitude.

Hate to say it, but I tend to agree with Madcat on this one. CM7 is a constantly growing project with lots of development support. Stock is... Well stock... You may never see another update for it and I don't feel it comes with anywhere near as much customization.
If you're truly happy with an "eReader" than updates are silly past Manualnooter. It's overclocked and you can read just fine. If you want a "tablet" that's why there's CM7.
That said, had I just wanted an eReader, I would have just bought a Nook or Kindle, battery life is far better for those, and you can easily read your books. Like Madcat said, it's very easy to use the Nook Color heavily (overclocked to 1.3ghz on .29 kernel/Debateable on .32 till PBD is fixed) for a whole day and charge at night. I don't think you're going to see much better even on Stock...
Bluetooth... Silly? LOL, the only thing missing from the Nook color is video out, and I would have a highly portable video game system for vacations, family get togethers, etc.. As Madcat also mentioned, bluetooth gps is pretty awesome on this screen, makes me regret recently buying a TomTom.
But you're also forgetting USB host support that will soon be baked in, allowing the nook to use external usb keybords, mouses, webcams(possibly?), video game controllers and hard drives!
Something goes wrong with CM7 you have a lot of dev support and other user support. Something breaks in Stock and you have the manual spoken to you in verbatim, with an Indian Accent and an American name.
My Nook Color journey will be complete and I'll finally be able to use this thing the way I truly want when (1) Movies play as well on my NC as they did on BN OS 1.1, and (2) the Nook App for Android opens books as quickly as the stock reader does.
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Not sure why it hasn't ended for video... Overclock it and use Moboplayer and you can easily watch videos. That or learn to encode videos with handbrake to the specs of the nook color for hardware acceleration.
As far as the Nook App goes... I don't really read books outside of pdfs, so correct me if I'm wrong... But couldn't you use other programs like Kindle? or Moon Reader or Aikido?

I'm a little confused about the Bluetooth usability comments. Has the extremely short range issue been resolved and I missed it?
Personally I did want a device that was mostly an eReader with added capability. A rooted/over-clocked Nook Color running Smart Taskbar, Button Savior and a few other goodies fits that bill. Sure the user interface is not Android but that wasn't my intent from the start.
If the Bluetooth range can be/has been resolved, that would be icing on the cake if it gets ported to the rooted NC.If Bluetooth range while using WiFi is still sub par, I wouldn't describe it as very useful even if I were running CM7.
Even though we're on XDA, not all of us are interested in constantly tinkering with our toys all the time. If that is your thing, I say more power to you but there is no call to ridicule others who are looking for something different. Hopefully we can rise above such rudeness and treat each other with common courtesy.
-Joe

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Hopefully we can rise above such rudeness and treat each other with common courtesy.
-Joe
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Who's being rude? Seems pretty civil so far.

I just nooted last night with the lastest MN and Dalingrin's 2.6.32 OC kernel and let me tell you I am as happy as I can be. I did consider CM7 or Phiremod which I think are great but then I realized I am using this baby more for ereading than anything else.
I do like the BN reader launcher and I want to enjoy it a little bit more, the OC brings new life to it (is laggy as hell out of the box). I have now installed around 50 apps including ADW EX, customized it to my taste and to be frank regarding UI I have it to the level CM7 or Phiremod is. I can't imagine it faster than it is (it actually beats my Cognition 4 Samsung Galaxy S in feel and in Quadrant 1800 vs 2300 for the nook).
So I might change later but my needs are fulfilled for now, same situation with my Galaxy S, until CM7 is stable over there I'm sticking with stable froyo Cog goodness.

Honeycomb v3.1 vs CM 7.1.0 for nook

Hi Guys,
I'm planning to install my first custom ROM on nook color. However, I am wondering how good is honeycomb port on nook. Ideally and I know the right answer is to try it out myself both and find out, but I don't have enough time to try out both since I have to give away the nook to someone.
I have honeycomb on my EEE transformer and really love it...that's why i'm favoring for HC but still if anyone can anyone details pros and cons for both HC and CM7, regarding stability, battery life and overall quirks, bugs and performance, it would be really helpful..
Regards,

HC isn't really ready for the NC.. its very buggy and still has several issues running on the NC. cm7 is very stable and well running few problems at all. just my 2 cents

Since honeycomb isnt open source, the Nook port is made from the SDK rather than source. As such, its incredibly buggy and very slow. Dont get me wrong, its impressive that it works in the first place. But by no means is it a daily driver.
CM7 is the way to go unless you absolutely must have HC app compatibility. Even if you do, we'll have ICS in a few months.

Another vote for CM7. I tried an older release of the Honeycomb port and it was pretty bad -- very laggy and a lot of stuff didn't work. Several people have said that it's not really much better even now since we don't have an official release of HC's source. I ended up going back to stock for a long time until I tried CM7. They have done great work, and even though it's based on a "phone OS" (Gingerbread), it's adapted very well to the Nook.

Thanks for reply guys..
Actually I just saw some videos of NC running HC, so I got excited..didn't know it was that buggy..i'll put CM7 on it today

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Thanks for reply guys..
Actually I just saw some videos of NC running HC, so I got excited..didn't know it was that buggy..i'll put CM7 on it today
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HC may be buggy, but some of the lag that a lot of people experience is because they install it to SD and their SD card is a low class giving it lower read speed. And the default launcher is terribly slow and buggy. If you decide to use it, use a lightweight launcher like zeam.
If you're still interested in trying it out, look into dual booting it and cm7. That's what I currently have set up.

I know this ROM was not included in your original question buy I highly recommend MIUI. I have found it to be incredibly stable and fast and the UI just looks great on the NC. I have tried CM7, Phiremod, and Honeycomb and to me the look and feel of MIUI just seems to fit the NC. Anyways, just my two cents : )

when i used to have my NC dual booted with Phiremod and Honeycomb i hated using the Honeycomb because it was glitchy and slow.. i went to using CM7 Nightly 150 and havent looked back.. it runs smooth as can be, is overclocked to 1.2 ghz, and battery life is with reading alot and searching the web ( 2-4 hrs of usage a day ) i can get a solid 4-5 days on one charge... if i only use it for an hour or so a day easily 9 days.. CM7 works great and you can theme it to look like honeycomb in alot of ways..

It's not even close. Honeycomb is pathetic. Go with CM7.
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I have a Transformer too and would love to see Honeycomb on the Nook but I'd rather wait for ICS on both
I have a feeling that ICS will run better on the Nook than HC does but that is just speculation.
These developer at XDA rock so I have faith they'll make it happen as soon as Google releases the code. Yeah, I believe in Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy

I have a feeling that ICS will run better on the Nook than HC does but that is just speculation.
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Of course it will as long as the source code is available.