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Questions for those of you who have or used both...
1) Does the accelerometer add any real usefulness to the WM experience ?
2) Is there much WM software out there that takes real advantage of the accelerometer ?
3) Besides automatic screen rotation, what great smartphone features are made possible by use of an accelerometer ?
I was just wondering whether the accelerometer has graduated from being a novelty/luxury to something that is actually indispensible to a WM smartphone.
had one in my n95, deactivated it!
my mate has a touch HD, hes also not suing it.
to be honest, there is no pratical use for it. u dont need it for anything usefull.
id allways swap a gyro for a compass cause if i hate something, then its navigating with google maps and not seeing in which direction i currently look at.
it ould be usefull in combination with compass for displaying aternate reality.
1 - No.
2 - Yes, but they are useless.
3 - Nothing else and the automatic screen rotation is super annoying. I always keep it off on my N95 or any other device for that matter.
Well, I felt that way when X1 was released, but I figured things would have been improved between then and now
just imagine.. i have many friends that use Nokia with Tilt sensor.. And almost all said that once they disabled their tilt sensor.. their phone hangups are almost nil... from almost everyday..
I'm happy with my X1's magnetic sensor.. it only triggers when i needed it...
I had a fuze and loved having the g-sensor for taking pictures. If you take a picture in portrait it saves it that way when reviewing it.
so I want want the accelerometer for this reason alone.
Stalix said:
I had a fuze and loved having the g-sensor for taking pictures. If you take a picture in portrait it saves it that way when reviewing it.
so I want want the accelerometer for this reason alone.
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this could be solved by software too, to a certain degree ofc.
Ive got a Panasonic lumix and that digicam has the same feature. it either has a gyro or its doing it by software somehow. i guess its a software thingy.
The accelerometer is nice to have for driving apps like measuring G and acceleration etc...
Did not use it in the Diamond, did not miss it in the SEX1, not impressed with it in the Diamond2.
I bought X1 in part because I don't care about accelerometer. I would love to have one in my next phone, but not for any practical purpose, and I frankly am not willing to pay any more money to add it. It's neat, but not necessary or even practical for just about anything.
Had it (iPhone 3GS), didn't miss it (Xperia X1i).
Finicky thing was a PITA.
^ U loved Xperia X1i over iPhone 3GS?????????
i am havin hard time which one to keep.
got both at home currently.
3GS is a strong competitor...and it makes good use of accelerometer
Nocturnal310 said:
^ U loved Xperia X1i over iPhone 3GS?????????
i am havin hard time which one to keep.
got both at home currently.
3GS is a strong competitor...and it makes good use of accelerometer
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Yeah, I find it weird as well.... There's something strange in prefering a vastly superior product to a piece of **** devioce...
orelsi said:
Yeah, I find it weird as well.... There's something strange in prefering a vastly superior product to a piece of **** devioce...
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orelsi. whats u view on the palm pre? i know u dont like the iphone as i also dont think much of it but been looking at the pre (not to replace my x1, but just out of interest). would like a play with one as it seem a nice phone.
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orelsi. whats u view on the palm pre? i know u dont like the iphone as i also dont think much of it but been looking at the pre (not to replace my x1, but just out of interest). would like a play with one as it seem a nice phone.
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Same here lol. I am intrigued by it and it is a curious device for sure. Unfortunatelly, I haven't been able to play with it, yet. I definitely want to, though.
There isn't much to say until I get it in my hands. It looks sleek and sexy when it's closed, but I don't like that particular form factor and that type of keyboard. The keyboard seems kinda small as well.
WebOS is something that I REALLY want to try. That card based interface looks very convenient and those cards are LIVE, a feature that had to be implemented in our panels...
Bottom point, I want to try one and it looks like a very good device (not as good as the X1 ) and it has a pretty good dev communiity as well.
Pre's build quality is apparently touch and miss. There was the "rotating" slider incident. (Which is severely WTF?!?!)
However the keyboard looks like it'd cut my thumbs (what's with that sharp looking lip?) and is smallish, too small for my large fingers.
I'm tempted to buy an N1, but I did a little research and saw here, that the Nexus One has a ClearPad 2000 which does not seem to hold the promise of a "true" multitouch mobile phone (saw the petition thread - it was funny ^^)...
But does anyone here use more than 2 fingers when using multitouch? And is it really such an annoyance or just non-sense to complain about such thing? So, if you had the chance, would you buy the Nexus One again?
This is not a thread which wants to compare the advantages and disadvantages of the N1 with any other device.
Would be nice if anyone could answer my questions...
Greets
i have an n1 and i hardly ever have problems with mulitouch ive had one for about 4 months now and ive had a problem with the screen like 2 times and all i did was try it again and it figured it out, the "problem" is nothing super noticeable
Is the ClearPad2000 a reason for not buying an N1?
no.
Is gaming a big aspect you look forward to in your phone? If so then yes it is a bit of an issue...
If you are looking for an extremely capable phone, then no - I only rarely use more than one finger on the screen, and never more than two. I have no need for such trifles :-D
If you are looking for a portable gaming platform that also can occasionally surf the internet and make calls, you might find it more of an issue. That said, I do plenty of gaming on my phone, and the only game I have an issue with is ToonWarz - but can work around that using the trackball rather than two fat thumbs on the screen.
If you buy this phone to mostly use it to play multi-touch games on, then yes it could be a reason for not buying it. Most games do work just fine though and if you were just gonna play games on your phone I would advise you to buy a handheld gaming console...
if you look back at how this whole multi touch issue was started/discovered you'll realize that it was from a game developer that wanted to put a virtual joystick and two buttons on the screen. I'm really glad he discovered the problem but games like those are rare even for gamers.
i'm not a gamer but even if i was i would assume that the n1 could hold up its own with games. so, yeah. not even a question...i would get the n1 again.
no its not an issue at all. sure some complex games would be limited, but i have yet to even see any games that are effected. of course i wish it were better so we WOULD see some cool games.
but for using the phone normally, like pinch to zoom, you wouldnt even know there was an issue. go ahead aand get the nexus.
Yes. Wait and see how deep the hacking gets on the better htc devices (incredible/evo).
If you plan on keeping the device longer than 6 months, make sure you're getting a fully functioning device.
i agree its not really an issue unless gaming. i never use more then 2 fingers only to pinch from time to time nothing else. i dont game so not required for me.
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I'm tempted to buy an N1, but I did a little research and saw here, that the Nexus One has a ClearPad 2000 which does not seem to hold the promise of a "true" multitouch mobile phone (saw the petition thread - it was funny ^^)...
But does anyone here use more than 2 fingers when using multitouch? And is it really such an annoyance or just non-sense to complain about such thing? So, if you had the chance, would you buy the Nexus One again?
This is not a thread which wants to compare the advantages and disadvantages of the N1 with any other device.
Would be nice if anyone could answer my questions...
Greets
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A) If you play a lot of multitouch games, yes.
B) Why do you care if you're already set on the Galaxy S (in your signature)?
I have my Galaxy Note now for a couple of months, and I realy like it. Never want to go back to a smaller phone again.
But using it for while now I only pull out the S-Pen when showing of my phone, telling everyone that it's a great feature to have.
So, maybe you guys want to share how you use your S-Pen in daily use?
I mostly use it at home, i guess about 70% of the time. Why don't you use it?
on the go i hardly use it...
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I mostly use it at home, i guess about 70% of the time. Why don't you use it?
on the go i hardly use it...
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And what do you do when you are using it at home?
Actually everything. Browsing, texting... I like the feel of it in my hand and when its sliding over the screen. long time ago i owned a PDA and now i noticed that i missed a stylus.
Maybe you just give it a try and get used to it - if u want to.
I used it couple of times.. When I actually wanted to write something on a paper but did not find it. Then I realized s-pen importance.
It can be very useful while travelling (when you have no piece of paper and want to write/remember something).
Sketching with Sketchbook Mobile
Games like World of Goo
At lunch times or at meetings when there is no paper or pen available to illustrate an idea or to help explain something
As way to talk/pass messages to friends in concerts or nightclubs. It's simpler than physical keyboard and quicker than onscreen one. Especially when a bit tipsy
So yeah, I use it few times a day and its really handy
I hate finger prints on my screen so i use it all the time other than when gaming.
I find it keeps the screen clean when im cooking if im using it for recipes, i also had a PDA back in the day an missed using a stylis.
I can't belive how well it fits in the phone body even though the s-pen so big, the only thing i dont like about it is the name. lol
I do not sketch, but I use it for drawing technical diagrams instead of doing the same on paper. I also use a flowchart type drawing app, and the pen is much better with that. That is for work.
I rarely write text, mainly because my writing is so awful even I cannot easily read it (I should have been a doctor). I do sometimes make quick notes with it rather than typing, and it is good for adding a note to the calendar instead of dicking with the entry for an event. I find that much quicker, like "drinks 4pm" instead of a couple of dozen clicks.
At home, I often fiddle with my launcher screen (ssLauncher - you can really fine-tune where everything is to 5 pixels), and the pen makes that much easier. I then typically just keep using the pen anyway, because it seems to glide over the glass more easily than my finder. I have very oily skin, and the peen keeps those prints off the screen.
I use it very often for shopping lists, and for other situations where I'd use a pen and paper. Last week for example I was out with one of my gfs friends, and she asked me. To remind my gf to give her a call about something. Perfect for the spen.
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hardly ever used it, only for doodling, i dont see the need for the pen for my uses of the phone
The only thing I use the S-Pen for is annotating pictures and screen-shots. I think my handwriting is incompatible with this device
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The only thing I use the S-Pen for is annotating pictures and screen-shots. I think my handwriting is incompatible with this device
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I couldnt agree more we are on same page
I use the pen all the time. I much prefer it to using fingers unless I'm on the move or writing messages. Then I use dual thumbs.
I actually feel like I get more precision with the s-pen, and I like not getting finger prints all over the screen.
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I couldnt agree more we are on same page
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Indeed you are. Page 2 of this thread
jorundtm said:
The only thing I use the S-Pen for is annotating pictures and screen-shots. I think my handwriting is incompatible with this device
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same here...
I don't use the S Pen much as it is too thin for my large hands however I use my Wacom pen regularly with it to take hand written notes as it is like using a real pen. Cannot work without it now.
As a side note for those of you with messy handwriting, try an app in the market called 7Notes, you will seriously be surprised with its accuracy in recognising your handwriting and converting it to digital text. Once you use it, you will find there's no going back!!! Currently its only in Beta, cannot wait for the full version.
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I don't use the S Pen much as it is too thin for my large hands however I use my Wacom pen regularly with it to take hand written notes as it is like using a real pen. Cannot work without it now.
As a side note for those of you with messy handwriting, try an app in the market called 7Notes, you will seriously be surprised with its accuracy in recognising your handwriting and converting it to digital text. Once you use it, you will find there's no going back!!! Currently its only in Beta, cannot wait for the full version.
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Wow, this Is amazing. I've never used a handwriting tool that's actually worked before. my handwriting Is awful, and this works perfectly. I used it to write this post!
Edit: I've been playing with it for 5 minutes and I've gone back to swiftkey x. It works great, it's just that even the best handwriting recognition is still a bit awkward. Especially when it comes to editing your posts.
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i love being able to annotate screenshots, and do so several times per day. this is the main feature that tipped the scales for me away from getting a Nexus.
otherwise, my handwriting is recognized quite well by the software, but i hardly ever bother with that
I don't use it much for writing, I find typing is far quicker and easier. My had writing isn't that bad on paper, but it looks like a child's scribblings on the Note.
I do use it for drawing though, which I'm getting quite good at. And often just for normal usage instead of my finger... no real reason for that, I just sometimes notice myself doing it.
I use it mainly for taking screenshots and to give my fingers a break. Installed this app called Freenote today which seems to be better than S Memo feature-wise. Will be using S Pen more with it from now on.
Also the pen is mightier than the finger when playing games like Fruit ninja.
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Indeed you are. Page 2 of this thread
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LOL
jellevanb said:
I have my Galaxy Note now for a couple of months, and I realy like it. Never want to go back to a smaller phone again.
But using it for while now I only pull out the S-Pen when showing of my phone, telling everyone that it's a great feature to have.
So, maybe you guys want to share how you use your S-Pen in daily use?
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S-Pen its a great feature,yes
Well am using Ultimate_N7000_V5.1 Jellybean rom and i have all the airview festures like galaxy note!
Btw. try the app from Play Store "Jotter for galaxy note" u have to pay for it but u can just crack it
Hi everyone
Lucky enough to get my nexus from currys last night before they'd made it properly onto the shop floor loving it so far but for one issue and that is REALLY slow rotation of screen in apps... chrome tapatalk YouTube everything takes forever as if it hasn't realised its been tipped over... a very heavy flick seems to help it along but that's really not good enough and I look a bit mental!
I tested with an accelerometer test app and all axes seem to register through all range of motion and even move v slowly so seems to me hardware fine and software bug? I read a Google post that there was an issue on nexus phones in December... anyone experienced it with the 7
Thanks
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I guess it makes me feel better to know that I'm not the one having this problem. I wish instead neither of us were though!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29016781&postcount=434
I'm going to to try and flash a stock image tonight in hopes that it isn't the hardware. I also downloaded an app from the market that tests the sensors, and everything appeared fine there. If flashing back to stock doesn't fix it, I guess I'll be forced to do another exchange.....
When using the pinch to zoom feature in the browser, gmail, maps etc I noticed there is a delay in that your fingers have to travel a certain distance before the phone/OS start reacting to the command and begin zooming, Once it begins to zoom its very responsive, it's just the initial delay when you first begin to initialize the zoom.
After the Jelly Bean update on my last phone the Galaxy Nexus I've become so accustom to a instantly responsive experience that this is driving me nuts. The phone is great in every other way, that's my only gripe but I haven't noticed anyone else complain which really surprises me. I'm really interested in trying this on the Optimus G to see if it's hardware related or the new version of Jelly Bean.
i believe its been like that for awhile. I guess its just the way android works. it doesnt want you to accidentally pinch to zoom when you might be trying to do something else
Yes, that's true. But the zooming out is not affected, only the zooming in. Should be a software issue. It doesn't bother me.
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Yes, that's true. But the zooming out is not affected, only the zooming in. Should be a software issue. It doesn't bother me.
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Yep you're correct zooming out is not affected which lead me to realize something. If you space your finger apart and zoom you wont get the delay. So it's definitely something where the phone is not recognizing multi-touch input until your fingers are spaced out.
Yep. This isn't an issue with just gmail, try and zoom within gallery. It's almost too stiff.
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seems not to be hardware related (puh...) check out this guy pinching and zooming on optimus g:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05rSXn96QrU&feature=related#t=7m44s
its definatly not hardware related...see above post... as for the argument that androids been lik this for some time is horse apples... and there is only the zooming feature that involves multitouch in the UI ..so saying it is to avoid mistaken inputs is also wrong... its definatly a software BUG which is to be fixed...
It is a software problem. Basically the screen is set to recognise touches as taps even after a certain amount of movement and not as swipes to allow for some movement of the finger and not be overly sensitive. The SGS2 had this 'problem' as well, but a guy (I think his name is vitalij, not 100% sure though) found where this value was stored and it could be tweaked perfectly afterwards. So I wouldn't worry a lot about this, probably it'll be solved similarly in the foreseeable future.
btw guys check out firefox it doesnt have the problem!
its much better
i made a video here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU-N3mEOwU0
I tried a N4 today and it was present in the gallery but not maps.
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I tried a N4 today and it was present in the gallery but not maps.
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Very true, just tested, so far iv found it in all browsers except Firefox and in the gallery
This is probably just google designing around a patent. Function patents need to describe extremely specific methods. This lets you design around them. Some vendors (ahem, Samsung) tend to use the "best" way instead of properly designing around, but the reason that Apple hasn't attacked Google directly is because Google designs around pretty well.
I hope all of you guys are reporting this to google here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...s Owner Summary Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=40445
Make a comment...the more comments, the higher on their priority it should become. Right now it only has a paltry 26 comments, so they won't think of it as a problem.
I'm suprised so few people are bothered by this issue. I for one am getting extremely annoyed everytime I try to zoom in the browser or gallery app. I settled with using just double tap for a while, since in my opinion pinching is not usable. I only just started using firefox. What a difference! Why the hell don't googles own app zoom properly like that??
I think it's a real shame googles own apps don't work properly on their own Nexus flagship phone for crying out load... this issue deserves more attention from google!
edit: I could not find a ticket about this specific issue (only about generic screen sensitivity) so I created one. If you think this issue is as annoying as I do, please star it/leave a comment so it will get noticed by google.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=54093&thanks=54093&ts=1365444331
Is there a fix for this problem in any custom roms?
I don't find it that bad in gallery but I must admit that pinch to zoom on Chrome is a real nightmare for my eyes. Just try Firefox or aosp browser. The difference is heaven and earth. The best way to see the difference is to magnitude the view as much as you can and then swipe. Scrolling on Chrome will be just physically painful. Firefox or aosp browser feels incomparably smoother.
I also came from Galaxy Nexus and I agree totally with OP about its swiping experience. After JB update pinching to zoom was being registered instantly and swiping felt almost perfect. Perhaps it has something to do with the lower touch sensitivity (due to new drivers that came with 4.2.2).
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In the MIUI Rom there's not the pinch to zoom issue. Hope someone can use it to solve the problem once and for all
If you want an instant pinch to zoom just put your fingers a little bit far from each other when you start pinching.
This is why zooming in works well for you guys