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Former Nokia N95 owners

I have had a 8125, 8525 and currently a 8925. I am disappointed with the camera of this phone, battery life and some other things. I was looking at changing phones and the one I am looking at is the N95. I have been using a T9 software dial pad to see if I can take the text input, I have no issue. I checked and all the apps I used are available for the symbian OS for the most part. My question is what did you guys not like about the phone to make you switch to the Kaiser. Was the phone slow etc? If this thread is waste of time for you please disregard.
Thanks in advance
-McMex

The phone is not slow at all. I just recently swithed back to Windows Mobile tonight, Symbian is great, but I'm not bias, both OS have the same software and apps, and technical similarities. I switched back to Windows to see what they have to offer for WM6. I swithed to Symbian when the first WM6 os we leaked, and kept moving up until I got the N95 8GB.
Windows firmware is more leniant in terms of modding however ;D
And a hardware keypasd is a must for me.

mcmexican said:
I have had a 8125, 8525 and currently a 8925. I am disappointed with the camera of this phone, battery life and some other things. I was looking at changing phones and the one I am looking at is the N95. I have been using a T9 software dial pad to see if I can take the text input, I have no issue. I checked and all the apps I used are available for the symbian OS for the most part. My question is what did you guys not like about the phone to make you switch to the Kaiser. Was the phone slow etc? If this thread is waste of time for you please disregard.
Thanks in advance
-McMex
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Currently (with the crappy video driver of the Kaiser - and also taken into account the camera "quality", the size, weight etc. into account), IMHO, the N95 is better than the Kaiser UNLESS you need a specific Windows Mobile app not available on Symbian OR you definitely need the touch screen (to, for example, make remote desktop control or something similar - that is, mouse / stylus-dependent - much easier).
You might also want to follow my articles - in my latest Bibles, I publish extensive comparisons between the two operating systems.

we3zy said:
And a hardware keypasd is a must for me.
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1, welcome to xda-devs
2, use the ThinkOutside SA keyboard. It's working just great with my N95. And, the cumulative (!) weight of the two dvices are still under that of the Kaiser (not to mention it's a full keyboard, not a slow-to-operate thumbboard.)

Thank you all for the feedback I am really let down by the Kaiser. I don't even use the hardware keyboard I have been using the cootek soft keyboard. Guess it makes my decision pretty easy then. I need to look into the ThinkOutside SA keyboard.
Thanks again
-McMex

I will only consider buying a Nokia again when they decide to add a touchscreen. That's what made me sell mine. For me a phone without a touchscreen is like a computer without a mouse. It wasn't a N95 though, it was a S60 1st Edition phone.

Smaniac said:
I will only consider buying a Nokia again when they decide to add a touchscreen. That's what made me sell mine. For me a phone without a touchscreen is like a computer without a mouse. It wasn't a N95 though, it was a S60 1st Edition phone.
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Well, I have tons of Windows Mobile Pocket PC's, Smartphones and non-WinMo devices. In most cases (except in some games and tasks like remote desktop control, drawing on screen instead of using a keyboard for input etc.), I find the lack of touchscreen a minor problem on both my MS Smartphones and the N95 - it doesn't reduce my efficiency in most cases (for example, reading/ answering mail, Web browsing, watching video, listening to audio, playing games etc.). It even helps a lot because it lets for one-handed usage.
Of course, if one uses his/her phone for remote desktop control (and similar stuff), he/she should go for a phone with a touchscreen.

Not to mention that the N95 misses out on the TyTn's high 'coolness' factor.
Next to that, i think developers in general are more interested in making software for a Windows Mobile device than a device running on Symbian.
If you really want a phone that can outmatch the TyTn in probably every way (except for the IMHO lame Symbian OS) you'll have to wait a few more weeks and buy a Nokia N82.
Sweet phone, check out it's stats here

Menneisyys said:
Well, I have tons of Windows Mobile Pocket PC's, Smartphones and non-WinMo devices. In most cases (except in some games and tasks like remote desktop control, drawing on screen instead of using a keyboard for input etc.), I find the lack of touchscreen a minor problem on both my MS Smartphones and the N95 - it doesn't reduce my efficiency in most cases (for example, reading/ answering mail, Web browsing, watching video, listening to audio, playing games etc.). It even helps a lot because it lets for one-handed usage.
Of course, if one uses his/her phone for remote desktop control (and similar stuff), he/she should go for a phone with a touchscreen.
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For me everything is much easier with touchscreen. Browsing, home screen (my Nokia had only 2 home screen shortcuts, one for each soft key), using a full on-screen keyboard instead of the sometimes extremely annoying T9, etc. But that's just my opinion.
troyk said:
Not to mention that the N95 misses out on the TyTn's high 'coolness' factor.
Next to that, i think developers in general are more interested in making software for a Windows Mobile device than a device running on Symbian.
If you really want a phone that can outmatch the TyTn in probably every way (except for the IMHO lame Symbian OS) you'll have to wait a few more weeks and buy a Nokia N82.
Sweet phone, check out it's stats here
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Is the N82 better than the N95? I thought N95 was still the best one, because it is 13 model numbers higher! (just kidding lol, but I did think a lower number meant a lower model).
One thing I'm really concerned on the Kaiser is the screen, that IMO is way too big for QVGA. Mine is 2.4" and I can already see the pixels. Kaiser could be a lot smaller if it also had a 2.4" screen.
And speaking of that, how about the colors? N95 has a 16m color screen, my phone has a 262k, but Kaiser is only 65k. Doesn't that make a big difference on movies and stuff?

Crappy video driver for Tytn II ...
Menneisyys said:
Currently (with the crappy video driver of the Kaiser - and also taken into account the camera "quality", the size, weight etc. into account), IMHO, the N95 is better than the Kaiser UNLESS you need a specific Windows Mobile app not available on Symbian OR you definitely need the touch screen (to, for example, make remote desktop control or something similar - that is, mouse / stylus-dependent - much easier).
You might also want to follow my articles - in my latest Bibles, I publish extensive comparisons between the two operating systems.
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Any news about HTC on this driver ? Hardware clearly indicate much more possible performance ... any chance to get our device and OS delivering their power ....

adebilloez said:
Any news about HTC on this driver ? Hardware clearly indicate much more possible performance ... any chance to get our device and OS delivering their power ....
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Not much... see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351986

I wanted to thank all of you it did help me make my decision I should have my N95 here tomorrow. I dont think anyone here is going to care if I like it better than my Kaiser or not. I will keep my Kaiser just in case I do not. Again thank you guys for all the information and opinions.
-McMex

mcmexican said:
Thank you all for the feedback I am really let down by the Kaiser. I don't even use the hardware keyboard I have been using the cootek soft keyboard. Guess it makes my decision pretty easy then. I need to look into the ThinkOutside SA keyboard.
Thanks again
-McMex
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So, your last 3 PPC's have been slideouts - yet you don't use it? Why don't you just get an iphone? Just kidding...really.
I don't use it much as well but do if the the text is long enough it gets its moneys worth. I'm been let down somewhat but at the sametime
things like internal GPS keep me stable - and the ROM Cooking community as well does of good job of filling in areas I feel are lacking...like
performance. Although, AKU 0.4.4 and 1.27.14.09 isn't all that bad. Most every phone I have been through on any platform has disappointed me.

You might consider the Sony Ericsson P1a.
It's beautiful and they have certainly fixed the flaws the they introduced in the P990. No support for US 3G Bandwidths, though.

When I bought my Kaiser I figured I'd switch between it and my N95 depending on what I'm doing... the speakerphone on the N95 is better than the one in my business-class phone on my desk for example.
Anyways, my thoughts were I'd use the N95 when not working, or when I needed to be on con-calls all day, and use the Kaiser when I needed something more communication oriented (read email and whatever else would make the character recognition/qwerty keyboard an advantage).
Well, fast-forward to today - my N95 pretty much only leaves the house if I'm going to be using the camera on it. The T9 on it is the second best I've ever used, so typing on it isn't too bad, the multimedia features are second to none, and its a nice, light phone, unlike the brick that is the Kaiser.
I guess if you're going to do a side by side of the features as I see them, it would go something like this;
GPS: Kaiser comes out ahead... getting a lock is easier/faster, plus you could always hook up an external antenna (not that I ever would).
Video: N95 hands down better since hardware acceleration in the Kaiser isn't being used appropriately at this time.
Audio: About equal.
Phone: N95 comes out ahead due to the superior speakerphone.
Apps: Both are equally useable from a smartphone point of view... Symbian has a huge community, WM has a huge community.
Camera: N95 hands down. Takes some of the best Macro shots I've seen.
Portability: N95 is smaller and much much lighter.
Build quality: There's some question about the slider mechanism in the N95 - some of them feel 'loose' but its easily fixed. I've never felt like I was going to break it. Kaiser feels more solid, but that's probably due to the extra weight.
Battery life: N95 battery sucks, hands down. New firmware is supposed to make a big difference though, and I haven't had a chance to update it yet.
I can't comment on the transfer speeds the N95 is capable of as I have a first gen N95 and live in the US, so the 3G radio is incompatible, but I will say the browser in the N95 is very good.

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Audio: About equal.
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Let me disagree. Audio playback-wise, the N95 is way better, for several reasons:
- stereo (!!!), very loud and good speakers with built-in (supported by Music Player) stereo widening. There simply isn't anything comparable in HTC's repertoaire. The only stereo HTC models, the Universal and Wizard, are way worse, both maximal volume- and frequency response-wise (I've done several A-B tests for my forthcoming Multimedia Bible between these three devices to see which is the best for music playback. The N95 won hands donw in every respect.). That is, if you often listen to music thru the speakers, there simply isn't anything better than the N95.
- A2DP quality. Doesn't really need to be further explained Of course, the A2DP quality of the Tilt is passable, but in no way as good as that of non-Microsoft-based devices (Nokias; Samsung's dumb phones etc). That is, if you plan to listen to music via A2DP and you know you're an audiophile, go for the N95 (or anything non-Microsoft; or, if you go for a MS device, get one that you can "hack" the Widcomm BT stack to)
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Battery life: N95 battery sucks, hands down. New firmware is supposed to make a big difference though, and I haven't had a chance to update it yet.
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Yes, that indeed was a big problem with the old firmware. However, you MUST upgrade to the new one. You'll be pleasantly surprised. The N95 with the old firmware is pretty much useless if you compare it to the capabilities, battery life etc. of the new firmware. It's like the difference between Windows and MS-DOS. Or, Pocket PC 2000 and WM5. The entire device is MUCH, incomparably better.

rlpaul said:
I can't comment on the transfer speeds the N95 is capable of as I have a first gen N95 and live in the US, so the 3G radio is incompatible, but I will say the browser in the N95 is very good.
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In the US, you get EDGE only - unless you get the N95-3 or the N95 8G-3, which is stated to reach the States soon. This means no for example video calls and (depending on your wireless operator, somewhat) reduced transfer speeds.

rlpaul said:
GPS: Kaiser comes out ahead... getting a lock is easier/faster, plus you could always hook up an external antenna (not that I ever would).
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Did you open the dialpad to get a more reliable lock as is also recommended in the manual? Do you have firmware version v11 or v12? If the latter, did you enable assisted GPS? With the latter, particularly with v20, I get a lock in 10-20-30 seconds most of the time (depending on the weather conditions). Without it, it's indeed painfully slow.

Menneisyys said:
In the US, you get EDGE only - unless you get the N95-3 or the N95 8G-3, which is stated to reach the States soon. This means no for example video calls and (depending on your wireless operator, somewhat) reduced transfer speeds.
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Yeah I bought the N95 -3 North American Version and it just got to my house. How do I know if I got the old firmware or the new firmware? I guess I should start looking for symbian forums.
Thanks you all again.
-McMex

mcmexican said:
Yeah I bought the N95 -3 North American Version and it just got to my house. How do I know if I got the old firmware or the new firmware? I guess I should start looking for symbian forums.
Thanks you all again.
-McMex
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The N95-3 already has the a firmware - it's the N95-1 (the non-American version) that used to have a much worse one.

xperia x1 looks like a possible let down.

Not sure if this is old news. The Sony Xperia X1 was displayed today. The video acceleration is the same as my un-modded Tilt. Here is a video link and approx 3:30 into the video you need to pay attention. Watch how long it takes after the qwerty keyboard is exposed for the video display to draw to landscape. It also seems as this device is a resistance display and not capacitance. I was under the impression that there were video drivers being used on this device. however the overall design is well thought out, and the GUI, as far as the pannels go, are nice. But overall i think i will just stick with my tilt.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q9C3zUJIi1k

of course, it's made by HTC. What did you expect.
Or perhaps it a April Fool's joke...er.

I'l still be buying one.

SH4YD33 said:
I'l still be buying one.
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Me too.
Also, you have to remember it is still pre-production. The drivers prolly haven't been implemented.

my95z34 said:
Me too.
Also, you have to remember it is still pre-production. The drivers prolly haven't been implemented.
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I'm not falling for that one again.
*looks at his crippled tilt on the desk*
I need to see some real world, real user benchmarks before any phone company sees another dime of my money.

Yeah, I guess that is true, lol.

i'm still down for an x1 whether it fixes the issue or not

cp_kirkley said:
I'm not falling for that one again.
*looks at his crippled tilt on the desk*
I need to see some real world, real user benchmarks before any phone company sees another dime of my money.
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Ditto
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Fish panel
Am I the only one that really likes the fish panel? I wish we can have that for our tilt

The fish pannel.
when she touches it does it seem like it has the Touch bug? i cant really tell.

Sorry guys, we've already got several xperia threads floating around that could have been used.
Mike

Be Fair to The Diamond!

I have been reading in this forum ,and many other sites about the Diamond and one would think that this is the worst device ever created.I have one and have been using it for about a week ,I got it as a replacement to the Kaiser and I think that it is a worthy replacement.It can do everything the Kaiser did ,I got used to the keyboard.No device is perfect but I think that all the minor problems are being overblown.
i am using 3dTF without any tweaking and it is working well.
My only comment would be maybe that the battery life is not so great.

I think the Touch Diamond is better than any other device currently available, and it will be for the forseeable future. I suppose people just have different opinions. However, if they don't like the way HTC is going, it makes you wonder why they're using these forums...

But for the £450/$900 you've probably paid out, wouldn't you expect no problems? Or maybe not no problems, but the battery is pretty poor from what I hear, and thats a pretty major concern to me.
But fair enough if you can deal with it, as you say, it's a personal thing.
Rory

I think the niggling problems will be fixed in rom updates anyway.. especially once its released on loads of operators, i think we'll see alot of rom versions around.
Its actually the first phone i can see myself keeping for more than a year.

rorydaredkign said:
But for the £450/$900 you've probably paid out, wouldn't you expect no problems? Or maybe not no problems, but the battery is pretty poor from what I hear, and thats a pretty major concern to me.
Rory
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The thing is that all of the problems that people talk about are problems that I've never lived without or that I can easily cope with. Poor battery? I've always charged overnight anyway. Laggy interface? TouchFLO was laggy too. Random things happening? I'd bet that my Sendo M550 did more random things more often.
Don't forget that, until a year ago, I was still using my Sendo M550 on a daily basis.

Must say that after 2 days of owning my diamond I am hugely impressed - it does everything I want and more - sure, if you are a heavy user and you are going to be away from an electricity supply for more than 12 hours you will have a problem, beyond that I don't see any issues!

I am absolutely ecstatic with my Diamond. I've had it for a couple weeks now and it is by far the best phone I've ever had. Honestly, I think some people just like to *****. A lot of the real complainers have never even used one, and for those that have - I don't know what the hell they've BEEN using that they expect such perfection out of the Diamond.
I think also that a lot of people just don't even understand the concept of mass appeal. If the phone doesn't work exactly the way THEY want it to work then the phone must SUCK.
It's particularly interesting to me because I see the same attitudes in the anti-PC/pro-MAC crowd. I think a lot of people just don't understand the value in a flexible, customizable device. The things that I love about WinMo are the very things others complain about. I like that I can tweak the registry to adjust the touch sensitivity to my preference. Or the flow of animations, etc.
Others expect it to work precisely the way that is best for them out of the gate and don't want to have to tweak it, but they don't seem to consider the reality of the fact that they aren't the only person in the world, and manufacturers have to design products that work for the greates number of users out there...

you can also can read this (sorry for self promoting) but is good to read something good about diamond:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2315506#post2315506

How can I be positive about the device which sucks my battery within 8 hours (as if the GPS was still on) or where I cannot simply remap stupid Home button to Start Menu which I am deeply used to without any weird 3rd party tools like AE Button Plus etc etc... so far this is my first and last htc unless the major issues are fixed. TF3D? Removed, not impressed... I got this for work and not for fancy show-outs in a pub :/
Edit - also forgot about the cathastrophical speaker quality (not the one used in a call, the "loud" one) - my grandma's phone rings better...

czbird - you are clearly unhappy with your purchase - why don't you return it/ sell it and look for something that will be more suitable for your needs?

czbird said:
How can I be positive about the device which sucks my battery within 8 hours (as if the GPS was still on) or where I cannot simply remap stupid Home button to Start Menu which I am deeply used to without any weird 3rd party tools like AE Button Plus etc etc... so far this is my first and last htc unless the major issues are fixed. TF3D? Removed, not impressed... I got this for work and not for fancy show-outs in a pub :/
Edit - also forgot about the cathastrophical speaker quality (not the one used in a call, the "loud" one) - my grandma's phone rings better...
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The power in phones like this are precisely that you CAN do what you want via 3rd party tools. If you want everything to work the way that is best for you (and who really cares about the rest of the buyers, right?), just start your own phone company.

OK, taken into extreme - how'd you like to have to install some crappy freeware to scroll through your contacts? Some features are simply supposed to be built-in
This ain't my first PDA, no need for teaching.

czbird said:
OK, taken into extreme - how'd you like to have to install some crappy freeware to scroll through your contacts? Some features are simply supposed to be built-in
This ain't my first PDA, no need for teaching.
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Well... I recall going through quite a few freeware apps, and even some trial versions of purchase software, to scroll through my contacts in the way I wanted to scroll through them (i.e. with my finger w/ kinetic scrolling instead of the tap tap tap of my stylus). It's not like your Home button doesn't work - it doesn't work the way YOU want it to. And that's what 3rd party apps are for.

Still misunderstood - I was used to assign special functions to the buttons only by tweaking the scan code settings in the registry, now the problem with the Diamond is, that it ignores whatever I try to set up the key to, as there are some htc handlers which deal with these keys. Now these have to be overriden by another keyboard handlers which will finally give me the possibility to change the key behavior. This way is quite complicated, annoying to set up, and the extra software also unnecessarily eats device resources...

czbird said:
I got this for work and not for fancy show-outs in a pub :/
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The Touch Pro is the business-equivalent of the Diamond. You've got the PPC world's equivalent of a Ferrari, and you're trying to use it like a tractor. The Diamond was designed with the pub in mind...

Well put Dark Fire.

Surely its primary use is as a business phone, if you want a phone to pull out in the pub, you get one everyone knows is amazing like the N96 (when released), or stupidly the iPhone.
Nobody knows what the Diamond is, unless you know about PPC's.
Rory

hate all this futile winning! if you bought it and u are not happy with it send it back! stop complaining! yes, it's not perfect but i don't dare to think how would you react after buying an iPhone.
i don't get it. ppl come here to ask (sometimes stupid) questions BEFORE they buy a diamond. i can't stand that they came back after buying it and keep complaining.
look at all the ppl here that are learning one from each other, look and read about the already new ROM and all the tweaks. try some. take yr balls in you hand, accept the risk of bricking it and flash it!! than come back and tell us how you made it or why you didn't. be useful! nobody is interested in yr complains.
i begin to think that three are only 2 ways with diamond: love it or hate it!

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Surely its primary use is as a business phone, if you want a phone to pull out in the pub, you get one everyone knows is amazing like the N96 (when released), or stupidly the iPhone.
Nobody knows what the Diamond is, unless you know about PPC's.
Rory
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More of the people that I know, know about the Touch Diamond than the N96 (probably my fault). TBH, the only reason I know about the N96 is because one of my friends has the N95. And as I've said before, most people I know think that people with an iPhone are retards.
The HTC Touch Diamond is perfectly designed for the pub - it's amazing, and rare, so you can show it off to satisfy people's curiosity instead of just showing it off to look cool (which makes you look sad). Also, as the Touch Diamond is not well known, it's less likely to be stolen (wouldn't you rather go for an iPhone than a random phone you've never heard of, with unknown specs?). Also, the Touch Diamond has a distinctive design, so your mates at the pub will be more likely remember the device and associate you with it.
Also, as it has been shown before, business people generally like keyboards and the general public generally hate keyboards. Therefore the Touch Diamond is not a business device. Business people also prefer complex UIs, which can show all of their calendar events (or fulfil any other random but important business requirements) - simplified stylish UIs are just not normally suitable for business...but they can still be appreciated after several pints of Magners.

Normal users dont use the calendar on their phone. They dont use the web browser, then done have tasks, all they use it for is calls, texts and entertainment.
And, saying its been proved that normal users don't like keyboards is total crap, we have however proved that almost every phone ever released has a keyboard of some type, so theyre used to it.
Plus, I bet the Diamond as its network branded variants will be in the Business type section of all the stores and brochures, much like the Touch, Dual and Cruise were.

2 simple question before buying Diamond

Hi!
I'm thinking about buying a Diamond, but I've got some wuestions about it.
1.) Is it possible to change the default TF3d to something more iPhone-like? Maybe with some SPB application?
(I like iPhone's simplicity, that control with short, little finger-moves, but at general iPhone is too dumb for me.)
2.) Is it possible to turn off threaded SMS-viewing?
Thanks for the replies.

1. yes, seen it on Youtube somewhere...if you search the forum you might find the link ~
2. yes possible and extremely easy -> via advanced config. tool
...now, head out and buy your Diamond jewel

TF3D is just another shell like any SPB-application or other cab.
After all, the Diamond is nothing more then a Windows Mobile fone...

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After all, the Diamond is nothing more then a Windows Mobile fone...
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I like that, better than iPhone. I have a HTC P3300, and wan tto upgrade to DImaond. My collegue got az iPhone, it's nice, it's comfortable, it has awesome browser, but it has strict rules, and a little dumb for me. I love when i can change almost everything, when something is real configurable.

Well, as for the browser, there's nothing better than Opera in the mobile world right now.

I'm gonna get flamed for this but you should SERIOUSLY consider your purchase mate. There are many hang-ups, battery life and screen issues being huge ones. I love my Diamond, but perhaps that's because it's just an interim phone until the Sony Xperia 1 comes out some time this month. The Omnia is a worthy alernative if you want to buy a phone now however as it's more of an all-rounder.
However, if battery life and the need to tweak lots doesn't bother you, you couldn't ask for a better phone right now.

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I'm gonna get flamed for this but you should SERIOUSLY consider your purchase mate. There are many hang-ups, battery life and screen issues being huge ones. I love my Diamond, but perhaps that's because it's just an interim phone until the Sony Xperia 1 comes out some time this month. The Omnia is a worthy alernative if you want to buy a phone now however as it's more of an all-rounder.
However, if battery life and the need to tweak lots doesn't bother you, you couldn't ask for a better phone right now.
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consider yourself flamed by a very satisfied diamond user.
hang-ups? BS!! never experienced one, not even when i had the original ROM.
screen issues? BS!!!! (best VGA screen).
battery life? BS!! my battery last 24 hours....more than i need. i do charge my diamond during the night...
tweaks a lot? BS!! used once Shaps Advanced Configuration, export the settings and that's all the tweaks i need. always using the same file.
i played with Omnia today. first i look around to be sure nobody sees me (from the distance looks sooooo much like an iPhone!) then i had to get used to the pixels on the screen (lots of them) and then i tried to put it in shirt pocket...and that was all i need...

I meant hang-ups as in disadvantages. The screen is great, but the build quality seems to be inconsistent. 24hrs battery may not be enough for some.
Just trying to give this guy all the info he needs.

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I meant hang-ups as in disadvantages. The screen is great, but the build quality seems to be inconsistent. 24hrs battery may not be enough for some.
Just trying to give this guy all the info he needs.
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i really want to understand. i am not joking, i am not trying to be sarcastic or a smart ass.
who needs more than 24 hours of battery??
who is far from an electrical socket or his car more than 24 hours??

Look at this
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=849
Some want the iphon look's like a Diamond

As your questions have been answered already i won't answer them but i would suggest looking at the Sony Xperia (however it's spelt) depending on your preference but if you really want a Diamond then definately get one

True, 24hrs is sufficient.
But for some, they need/want more battery power to browse internet, watch films/listen to music and use gps. I don't think the Diamond would let you do all that in one day. I'd say it would give you 24hrs if you browsed on the internet moderately and used gps sparingly. Films and music really exhaust battery life...
Don't get me wrong, I love my Diamond. But it's not a multimedia/internet powerhouse in terms of battery. I think people will be dissappointed if they think it is, that's all.

simcarloc said:
True, 24hrs is sufficient.
But for some, they need/want more battery power to browse internet, watch films/listen to music and use gps. I don't think the Diamond would let you do all that in one day. I'd say it would give you 24hrs if you browsed on the internet moderately and used gps sparingly. Films and music really exhaust battery life...
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Can you name any handheld device,let alone a mobile phone that will give you over 24 hours of use after watching movies,playing music/games or using gps,I cant think of one.
I usually get around 2-3 days out of my diamond,thats with some web browsing,youtube,calls and texts and maybe a short journey using gps.All i have done is updated to duttys 1.8 rom with the new radio and it made a world of difference.

simcarloc said:
True, 24hrs is sufficient.
But for some, they need/want more battery power to browse internet, watch films/listen to music and use gps. I don't think the Diamond would let you do all that in one day. I'd say it would give you 24hrs if you browsed on the internet moderately and used gps sparingly. Films and music really exhaust battery life...
Don't get me wrong, I love my Diamond. But it's not a multimedia/internet powerhouse in terms of battery. I think people will be dissappointed if they think it is, that's all.
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you forgot boiling eggs and making coffee....
ppl, this is a phone with some extras!. this is not a digital camera, not a personal PC, not an MP3 and movies player, not a GPS dedicated device. it does a little of everything, and it does it well enough.

Ok you know what, read-read my posts - i'm not saying the Diamond is a bad phone. The omnia etc does what the diamond does but has more battery life. So all i'm saying is, if you intend to use the above named features a lot, the Diamond may not be for you. Of course, no phone will last you a long time when using such features.
Jeez, what is it with some of you people?

simcarloc said:
Ok you know what, read-read my posts - i'm not saying the Diamond is a bad phone. The omnia etc does what the diamond does but has more battery life. So all i'm saying is, if you intend to use the above named features a lot, the Diamond may not be for you. Of course, no phone will last you a long time when using such features.
Jeez, what is it with some of you people?
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You forgot to say that Samsung omnia is far bulkier and looks rather ugly.
Right?

hiVe said:
You forgot to say that Samsung omnia is far bulkier and looks rather ugly.
Right?
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And reading around some forums, some peoples omnia's have a fast battery drainige issue.
I was actually considering an omnia,great specs,but after having a look at my mates,I think i made the right choice in the diamond.The omnia's screen is to pixelated for me after using the gorgeous vga screen on the diamond.

Most games can be played on it, but you can use the resize app, which comes with Panosha's Rom, but I havent used it really.
Go for the Diamond - 480 x 640 VGA - thats INSANE.
The pic quality is awesome.
Movie play back is great.
Only limitation is the unswappanle 4Gig internal drive.
But for some of us thats enough.
The iphone is just a ipod with phone function as a gimmic, like when phones came out with built in cams.
Whats the use of bluetooth if you cant transfer files over it??????
And for those are going to say how good the ipod sounds and blah blah blah - you shoud try the Cowon music players and others.
The Diamond is a pocket PC ! Enough said
Its a very impressive device , which is packed full of featues.
But be carfull when you buy , some unfortunate people have got a few bad eggs, where the screens have a yellow tint and the back heats up.
Mine however, knock on wood - is working perfectly.
Bought in Sinagapore.
Its such a sic little device.

I thought the back heating up was not a problem?

Some people report excessive heating. Though I think majority of them just overstates! (clearly)
Also I can't confirm whether the "minority" really suffers from that problem.
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Sick and tired! Where is sky map!

I'm tired of all this andriod talk that you can have sky map or google sky map whatever... I want it for htc touch pro windows.... I don't like the boring ones I got I want to be able to move around and look at all the stars while the phone is being move...i dont want to drag with my hand thats lame and outdated...
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agreed. i want skymap too.

indeed, if i possessed the knowledge or the will to obtain the knowledge.... this app would have been created long ago

you would need a compass in the device to get that type of movement accuracy.

I know someone that has somthing like that for his android, just need to port it to wm.

t0y0da said:
I know someone that has somthing like that for his android, just need to port it to wm.
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and his android device also has a compass.
any sort of augmented reality program will not run usably on our devices. the gsensor just isnt enough. we can define y axis and x axis, but no z axis. which is what the compass does, it gives the device a control, a constant, a place that is always going to be the same. it can then use the other relevant info from the accelerometers to always know exactly how the phone is positioned.
run one of the xandroid builds, install skymap, and just try to use it. if youre some how able to get it lined up, and move VERY slowly, you might be able to get it to work. again, one small jerk of the phone, and you will be looking through the screen in a totally different area.
the only wm phone i know of with a compass built in, is the hd2. there might be another one, but i never heard about it.

hartleyshc said:
the only wm phone i know of with a compass built in, is the hd2. there might be another one, but i never heard about it.
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Sorry to bring up this old topic, but the Omnia II also has a compass.

bobzero said:
Sorry to bring up this old topic, but the Omnia II also has a compass.
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Thats good to know.
Does the Omnia II have a capacitive touch screen or is that just the Leo?