I'm tired of all this andriod talk that you can have sky map or google sky map whatever... I want it for htc touch pro windows.... I don't like the boring ones I got I want to be able to move around and look at all the stars while the phone is being move...i dont want to drag with my hand thats lame and outdated...
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agreed. i want skymap too.
indeed, if i possessed the knowledge or the will to obtain the knowledge.... this app would have been created long ago
you would need a compass in the device to get that type of movement accuracy.
I know someone that has somthing like that for his android, just need to port it to wm.
t0y0da said:
I know someone that has somthing like that for his android, just need to port it to wm.
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and his android device also has a compass.
any sort of augmented reality program will not run usably on our devices. the gsensor just isnt enough. we can define y axis and x axis, but no z axis. which is what the compass does, it gives the device a control, a constant, a place that is always going to be the same. it can then use the other relevant info from the accelerometers to always know exactly how the phone is positioned.
run one of the xandroid builds, install skymap, and just try to use it. if youre some how able to get it lined up, and move VERY slowly, you might be able to get it to work. again, one small jerk of the phone, and you will be looking through the screen in a totally different area.
the only wm phone i know of with a compass built in, is the hd2. there might be another one, but i never heard about it.
hartleyshc said:
the only wm phone i know of with a compass built in, is the hd2. there might be another one, but i never heard about it.
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Sorry to bring up this old topic, but the Omnia II also has a compass.
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Sorry to bring up this old topic, but the Omnia II also has a compass.
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Thats good to know.
Does the Omnia II have a capacitive touch screen or is that just the Leo?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LRbkHOllLA&eurl=http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6755.html
soo is this available as an update
if that was a real sales pitch count me out - a poor attempt to try and mimic the iPhone, they should innovate like their slogan instead of following behind.
Only new feature is the zoom - but honestly how many use your pda as a camera/picture viewer. Now if they also upgraded the camera so as to be on par with nokia's lens' and the n95's spec then I would agree with the R&D in this area.
forgot about the rotate feature...something tells me it would be easier to press the rotate soft key.....
overall you can tell that I am not happy with this upgrade. Sure it can't do no harm but I think that their time could have been spent researching new features yet to be seen by Windows Mobile.
how about a cube like this on your herald?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1552994&postcount=292
that cube looks pretty nice...lovin the skin. I am actually working on my own cube, trying to make a 6 sided cube (although i'm startin to think it will become quite aggravating to find a side quickly if you are in a rush...whaddya think) with some custom animations. recently inspired to make it into a matrix theme.
not sure if you have seen this thread but it makes it quite simple. YOu should try and implement it into your kaiser port
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325424
and btw in regards to the first post the gurus over at pocket cm seemed to have pretty much mimic most of the features from the new touchflo in their pocketcm picture viewer. Give em some time and it will be better than HTC's version, im sure of it.
I know of that link. thats where i got the one i posted
I am folowing that thread to see if there is anything I want to use.
BTW. having more "sides" on the cube is ok idea, but making one that wont kill memory is a tough one my brother in law is a compter programmer, and im talking with him about a multisided cube, maybe there is coming something cool from that part in a while but no promises
about the kaiser port, we will see, first I have to make it work flawless before thinking about what to put in it.
sounds good, keep us all posted on any future developments.
as for the original topic...we all know HTC use Qualcomm chipsets in the past. Maybe with this new deal of AMD liscensing the new graphics technology introduced in the xbox360 (Unified Shader Architecture) to Qualcomm, we should be able to be able to have the memory from the animations use a dedicated graphics card (graphics card in ppc is not new -i think the flame has one)....just imagine OpenGL 2.0 running ported on a pocket pc. Possibilities are unimaginable right now. I think this is where HTC's R&D money should be going....but for all I know its already in the making...one can only hope
yeah that would be a giant step forward.
Im hoping its not so, but im afraid they will take tiny mouse steps forward, just so they can sell more phones.....they know we are addicted, and will buy.....lol
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yeah that would be a giant step forward.
Im hoping its not so, but im afraid they will take tiny mouse steps forward, just so they can sell more phones.....they know we are addicted, and will buy.....lol
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yeh for sure, its proven already that they only include one maybe two major upgrades per phone. Much more profitable marketing scheme. Just gotta know which phones to get, the people who purchase the Tytn II are going to be getting a pretty good phone that should b around for long. Where as a phone like the HTC Touch will get outdated pretty quick (Touch Dual already in production.) I'm sure when phones begin to be released with graphics cards built in they will surely only make them w/o keyboards, then another one with keyboard...then some "New and Improved Graphics Card" that doesn't waste as much battery (which they probably had from the begining.)
I guess you just gotta know to wait for the last one...
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how about a cube like this on your herald?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1552994&postcount=292
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Guess the whole cube thing is useless. all of these skins mean nothing - when you use your device, and not just flicking this cube back and forth for hours
Sweet looks cool. I would love that for my phone. When will ver 2 be out? I have a problem with touthflo. I can use the cube once then if i try again it wont load. It just flips up then flips away. I have to soft reset the phone to use it again. Is there a fix for this? I have this prob with any touchflo rom. Even my mda with touchflo does this.
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Guess the whole cube thing is useless. all of these skins mean nothing - when you use your device, and not just flicking this cube back and forth for hours
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The cube thing IS useless ... but you know that EVERYONE wants to have the new touchflo 2 the moment its available .... don't ya? haha
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The cube thing IS useless ... but you know that EVERYONE wants to have the new touchflo 2 the moment its available .... don't ya? haha
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as far as i understand, TouchFlo contains not only Сube. As for me - i want only finger scrolling. And it is still imperfect
I am so sick of everybody making Iphone icons and themes and all this bull**** for their kaisers. If you want a ****ing Iphone, go buy one. Otherwise, don't deface your iphone-superior Windows mobile phone with all this gay super-mario-looking jellybean rainbow macintosh ****. Iphones suck balls. Macintosh sucks balls. It's like buying a Ford F-650 and trying to make it look like a volkswagen jetta. Be proud of your windows mobile device people. Instead of infesting your phone, and our forums with all this glittery, trendy, crap, just go buy a ****** phone and go hang out at some other forum. ****, go hang out at starbucks, I'm sure there's about 100 douchebags crammed in there right now who'd love to go make gay buttlove with you. Damn, that felt good. I could go off on this all night. I'm gonna try to get some anti-mac stickers printed out to put on the back of my kaiser. If anyone else wants to rock one hit me up. If enough people are interested I'll get a bunch printed. Here's what I was thinkin:
Horray for super-mario-looking jellybean rainbow macintosh ****!!!
EDIT: But to add something useful...
The iPhone UI is very unique, combined with the ease and 'hackability' of Windows Mobile 6 IT SHALL MAKE THE GREATEST PHONE EVER!!!!
Catch my drift?
Plus, no-one is forcing you to use it, simply give the noob a link and PM a mod to delete the topic.
No need for a rant.
You do have a short temper do you?
EDIT II: For got to add the clincher!
Your avatar suits you
That is great and i feel the same way. Minues all of the gay love and harsh words but exactly what i was thinking in a way. I do like my tilt the way it is but i dont mind making it custom to my likings. The stickers though are a greaat idea. I think they could become a hot item.
I can't tell you how many people have seen my Tilt and said
"Is that an iPhone?"
No, it's a Windows Pocket Pc.
"Huh?"
Apple did a great job advertising and promoting their product. I rarely see ads for high-end pocket pc phones. It's annoying how iPhone users act smug thinkin their device is "sooo superior" and "sooo chic". Blow me
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I can't tell you how many people have seen my Tilt and said
"Is that an iPhone?"
No, it's a Windows Pocket Pc.
"Huh?"
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Ditto, but I simply show them the sliding keybaord and i have to fight all the ladies off!
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I can't tell you how many people have seen my Tilt and said
"Is that an iPhone?"
No, it's a Windows Pocket Pc.
"Huh?"
Apple did a great job advertising and promoting their product. I rarely see ads for high-end pocket pc phones. It's annoying how iPhone users act smug thinkin their device is "sooo superior" and "sooo chic". Blow me
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for sure ... i just ask them " hows texting on your phone"...http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/the-tech-observer/2007/11/14/iphone-keys--stink
minus the video
Sorry for the harsh words, I tried without them at first, but was not satisfied with the results
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Ditto, but I simply show them the sliding keybaord and i have to fight all the ladies off!
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It's all about the magic fingers!
One thing though, I wish the kaiser was cap-touch instead of resitive touch screen, i dont like the plastic and I prefer the glass screen of the iPhone (even though I dont own one)
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One thing though, I wish the kaiser was cap-touch instead of resitive touch screen, i dont like the plastic and I prefer the glass screen of the iPhone (even though I dont own one)
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wuts cap touch instead of resitive
Ditto, but I simply show them the sliding keybaord and i have to fight all the ladies off!
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for sure. they just think its like a sidekick and are all over it. but then get all confused when they are able to touch the screen and cant manage their way around it w/o a scrolly ball and 4 buttons to get around the whole phone
Capacitive touch (like the iphone) uses the bodys natural capacitance (ability to store electricity) to detect when a finger is placed on the screen and where, determined by capacitive touch sensors.
Resistive touch is based on a series of many MANY resistors under the screen, in a matrix form (not Neo...) and when you touch the screen, a resistor goes low (no resistance) which tells the TS (touch screen) controller to tell the processor (Qual7200) that a finger has been placed at x,y with 0,0 being the upper lefthand portion of the screen.
o and its resistive, I cant spell
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Capacitive touch (like the iphone) uses the bodys natural capacitance (ability to store electricity) to detect when a finger is placed on the screen and where, determined by capacitive touch sensors.
Resistive touch is based on a series of many MANY resistors under the screen, in a matrix form (not Neo...) and when you touch the screen, a resistor goes low (no resistance) which tells the TS (touch screen) controller to tell the processor (Qual7200) that a finger has been placed at x,y with 0,0 being the upper lefthand portion of the screen.
o and its resistive, I cant spell
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Isn't the iPhone's touch screen patented under their "Multi-Touch" technology?
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for sure. they just think its like a sidekick
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Dont ever, EVER compare the Fuhrer Kaiser to the ****ty T-Mobile Sidekick.
Not now not EVER!!!!
My ex's brother has a sidekick, lets just say that the only way you could do ANYTHING cool/useful with it is to hack paris-****ing-hiltons account.
Otherwise... its useless.
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Isn't the iPhone's touch screen patented under their "Multi-Touch" technology?
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Multi-touch isnt a patent, its a STDIO (standard input-output device)
You can even make one, a BIG one, (if you have a projector and some time, with like 50 extra dollars to spare, build one!
Check forums.nuigroup.com
)
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Dont ever, EVER compare the Fuhrer Kaiser to the ****ty T-Mobile Sidekick.
Not now not EVER!!!!
My ex's brother has a sidekick, lets just say that the only way you could do ANYTHING cool/useful with it is to hack paris-****ing-hiltons account.
Otherwise... its useless.
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they just think its like a sidekick
think didnt say it was and i didnt say it was they think its like a sidekick. I know its a better device than that POS by far. Chill.
Me Too
I feel pretty much the same way...I think the I in IPhone stands for idiot....Yeah an Idiot phone. Anyway, but the IPhone UI is pretty slick and Microsoft has not been innovative with the today screen for 7 or so years. Point UI does a good job of not looking like an iphone and making it feel more like where MS should have had it by at least WM6. No love for the idiot phone here. Symbian before Iphone anyday.
Dont they teach you guys anything in school?
I mean c'mon im only 16 yet ive outsmarted my dad who is an electrical engineer with Cisco!
But that doesnt explain why you'all are so out of it...
There is always a place where you can find everything
If not, theres here, which has everything else
Now can someone be so kind as to pont me a iPhone UI?
Plaes? Im serious, I want it!
Anyone? A link?
Swurve? Hello?
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I'm gonna try to get some anti-mac stickers printed out to put on the back of my kaiser. If anyone else wants to rock one hit me up. If enough people are interested I'll get a bunch printed. Here's what I was thinkin:
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I want two. One for my phone, one for my car. Three! One for my computer. Shoot - put me down for a roll of 100 - I'll have a heyday.
Not sure if this is old news. The Sony Xperia X1 was displayed today. The video acceleration is the same as my un-modded Tilt. Here is a video link and approx 3:30 into the video you need to pay attention. Watch how long it takes after the qwerty keyboard is exposed for the video display to draw to landscape. It also seems as this device is a resistance display and not capacitance. I was under the impression that there were video drivers being used on this device. however the overall design is well thought out, and the GUI, as far as the pannels go, are nice. But overall i think i will just stick with my tilt.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q9C3zUJIi1k
of course, it's made by HTC. What did you expect.
Or perhaps it a April Fool's joke...er.
I'l still be buying one.
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I'l still be buying one.
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Me too.
Also, you have to remember it is still pre-production. The drivers prolly haven't been implemented.
my95z34 said:
Me too.
Also, you have to remember it is still pre-production. The drivers prolly haven't been implemented.
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I'm not falling for that one again.
*looks at his crippled tilt on the desk*
I need to see some real world, real user benchmarks before any phone company sees another dime of my money.
Yeah, I guess that is true, lol.
i'm still down for an x1 whether it fixes the issue or not
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I'm not falling for that one again.
*looks at his crippled tilt on the desk*
I need to see some real world, real user benchmarks before any phone company sees another dime of my money.
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Ditto
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Fish panel
Am I the only one that really likes the fish panel? I wish we can have that for our tilt
The fish pannel.
when she touches it does it seem like it has the Touch bug? i cant really tell.
Sorry guys, we've already got several xperia threads floating around that could have been used.
Mike
The crap grammar is deliberate in the title...
Now, I'm probably going to be getting a Hero... So, do I sell it and get a TP2, or keep it?
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The crap grammar is deliberate in the title...
Now, I'm probably going to be getting a Hero... So, do I sell it and get a TP2, or keep it?
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'twer it me, It would come down to only two things to decide.
1.) Do I want Windows Mobile or can I deal with Android.
2.) Do I want a slide out keyboard or screen keyboard.
Those would be the only two deciding factors for me. Everything else is either comparable or it not that important to me.
If the Hero comes with HTC Sense., that would sway me towards the Hero. ( WoW , cool, first one on the block factor )
Get both. Problem solved.
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Get both. Problem solved.
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Umm... I don't have £1000 going spare... well... £500... Hero will be pretty cheap on the contract, TP2 isn't coming on Orange for ages apparently.
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'twer it me, It would come down to only two things to decide.
1.) Do I want Windows Mobile or can I deal with Android.
2.) Do I want a slide out keyboard or screen keyboard.
Those would be the only two deciding factors for me. Everything else is either comparable or it not that important to me.
If the Hero comes with HTC Sense., that would sway me towards the Hero. ( WoW , cool, first one on the block factor )
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Damn... That's the sensible answer I was hoping I wouldn't get!
My preference is towards WM, and towards a hardware keyboard...
But has anyone used both, who can give me some kind of slightly biased view?
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Damn... That's the sensible answer I was hoping I wouldn't get!
My preference is towards WM, and towards a hardware keyboard...
But has anyone used both, who can give me some kind of slightly biased view?
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I would much rather the hardware keyboard. I have a Kaiser, and while I haven't used another HTC screen keyboard, I have used the one on my son's LG Vu and my wife's iPhone, and I still prefer the hardware keyboard. As does my son, who can't wait for me to upgrade to the TP II so he can inherit my Tilt.
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Damn... That's the sensible answer I was hoping I wouldn't get!
My preference is towards WM, and towards a hardware keyboard...
But has anyone used both, who can give me some kind of slightly biased view?
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Hi l3v5y
I haven´t used them but thinking on how important is to me the keyboard I´ll go for TP2 with my eyes closed
Cheers,
yeah me too inclined towards hardware keyboard factor
but then you should also consider the qualcomm driver issue if you use the device for heavy multimedia applications
i will choose touch pro 2 for my kind of use
Videos of the Hero show me that it's virtual keyboard is one of the best out there so maybe give it a shot before passing judgment. The Touch HD's onscreen keyboard was mediocre but Finger Keyboard 2.1 solved my issues.
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Videos of the Hero show me that it's virtual keyboard is one of the best out there so maybe give it a shot before passing judgment. The Touch HD's onscreen keyboard was mediocre but Finger Keyboard 2.1 solved my issues.
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Hehe...
I might have a Hero for sale soon... I might not though... Need to get it sorted out first though.
I like to follow the idea of not judging a book by its cover. For example, I decided an iPhone was not at all worth its sticker price after trying it out off friends. I did enjoy its apps and wanted them so I ended up getting an iPod touch just so I can use those apps. That's why you should try out that phone. If you are truly unsatisfied, then yes go for the TP2. Another phone that seems worth a look is the Samsung Omnia Pro btw. The OLED screen and 800MHz CPU make for attractive options.
Be a happy wm user and get the TP2!
ID rather had a hardware keyboard also after losing my Wing (repairs atm) its kind of a pain using an onscreen keyboard and im using the opal so now hardware keyboard .
Another TP2
WM & Hardware keyboard do it for me
Oh and it just looks awesome
had WM from the 1st orange spv (nov 2002)
now have a hero....got to say try one before you judge it
the phone is.......VERY good
im very happy with my new toy
liamhere said:
now have a hero....got to say try one before you judge it
the phone is.......VERY good
im very happy with my new toy
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Orange contracts only have 500mb "unlimited" data...
Need to get a contract organised, but it's looking like I might go towards the Rhodium... Purely because I really like WM at the moment, and like the direction it's going. But, I'll try a Hero if and when I get one, and might love it...
Questions for those of you who have or used both...
1) Does the accelerometer add any real usefulness to the WM experience ?
2) Is there much WM software out there that takes real advantage of the accelerometer ?
3) Besides automatic screen rotation, what great smartphone features are made possible by use of an accelerometer ?
I was just wondering whether the accelerometer has graduated from being a novelty/luxury to something that is actually indispensible to a WM smartphone.
had one in my n95, deactivated it!
my mate has a touch HD, hes also not suing it.
to be honest, there is no pratical use for it. u dont need it for anything usefull.
id allways swap a gyro for a compass cause if i hate something, then its navigating with google maps and not seeing in which direction i currently look at.
it ould be usefull in combination with compass for displaying aternate reality.
1 - No.
2 - Yes, but they are useless.
3 - Nothing else and the automatic screen rotation is super annoying. I always keep it off on my N95 or any other device for that matter.
Well, I felt that way when X1 was released, but I figured things would have been improved between then and now
just imagine.. i have many friends that use Nokia with Tilt sensor.. And almost all said that once they disabled their tilt sensor.. their phone hangups are almost nil... from almost everyday..
I'm happy with my X1's magnetic sensor.. it only triggers when i needed it...
I had a fuze and loved having the g-sensor for taking pictures. If you take a picture in portrait it saves it that way when reviewing it.
so I want want the accelerometer for this reason alone.
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I had a fuze and loved having the g-sensor for taking pictures. If you take a picture in portrait it saves it that way when reviewing it.
so I want want the accelerometer for this reason alone.
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this could be solved by software too, to a certain degree ofc.
Ive got a Panasonic lumix and that digicam has the same feature. it either has a gyro or its doing it by software somehow. i guess its a software thingy.
The accelerometer is nice to have for driving apps like measuring G and acceleration etc...
Did not use it in the Diamond, did not miss it in the SEX1, not impressed with it in the Diamond2.
I bought X1 in part because I don't care about accelerometer. I would love to have one in my next phone, but not for any practical purpose, and I frankly am not willing to pay any more money to add it. It's neat, but not necessary or even practical for just about anything.
Had it (iPhone 3GS), didn't miss it (Xperia X1i).
Finicky thing was a PITA.
^ U loved Xperia X1i over iPhone 3GS?????????
i am havin hard time which one to keep.
got both at home currently.
3GS is a strong competitor...and it makes good use of accelerometer
Nocturnal310 said:
^ U loved Xperia X1i over iPhone 3GS?????????
i am havin hard time which one to keep.
got both at home currently.
3GS is a strong competitor...and it makes good use of accelerometer
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Yeah, I find it weird as well.... There's something strange in prefering a vastly superior product to a piece of **** devioce...
orelsi said:
Yeah, I find it weird as well.... There's something strange in prefering a vastly superior product to a piece of **** devioce...
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orelsi. whats u view on the palm pre? i know u dont like the iphone as i also dont think much of it but been looking at the pre (not to replace my x1, but just out of interest). would like a play with one as it seem a nice phone.
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orelsi. whats u view on the palm pre? i know u dont like the iphone as i also dont think much of it but been looking at the pre (not to replace my x1, but just out of interest). would like a play with one as it seem a nice phone.
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Same here lol. I am intrigued by it and it is a curious device for sure. Unfortunatelly, I haven't been able to play with it, yet. I definitely want to, though.
There isn't much to say until I get it in my hands. It looks sleek and sexy when it's closed, but I don't like that particular form factor and that type of keyboard. The keyboard seems kinda small as well.
WebOS is something that I REALLY want to try. That card based interface looks very convenient and those cards are LIVE, a feature that had to be implemented in our panels...
Bottom point, I want to try one and it looks like a very good device (not as good as the X1 ) and it has a pretty good dev communiity as well.
Pre's build quality is apparently touch and miss. There was the "rotating" slider incident. (Which is severely WTF?!?!)
However the keyboard looks like it'd cut my thumbs (what's with that sharp looking lip?) and is smallish, too small for my large fingers.