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Froyo out, Camera still 4:3?

What is Google thinking releasing a camera app with only 4:3 instead of widescreen?
No touch to focus... why!? This is like a standard an most phones now. The camera supports it, why not use it?

Because photos look wrong in 16:9?
I hated it when I had the Desire ROM on the phone, and all they end up doing is cropping of the a bit from the top/bottom which you could do yourself in any good photo editing software.

What about touch to focus?
And just because you like 4:3 doesn't mean everyone does or should.

Just because you don't like 4:3 doesn't mean everyone doesn't or shouldn't.

bcpk said:
Just because you don't like 4:3 doesn't mean everyone doesn't or shouldn't.
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They could have added both, and let you choose.

x986123 said:
They could have added both, and let you choose.
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It would've just been a cropped 4:3 image anyways, I don't really see the point. It has to be either a cropped 4:3 image or a cropped 16:9 image, you make the choice...
Here you have a 4:3 image from the sensor, you can crop it any way you like.

Both as options would have been tits.
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13MP in 16:9

Hi,can someone change aspect ratio in 13MP from 4:3 to 16:9 because I took pictures in 16:9 but for Xperia Z is it only 9MP .
It could to be happy

dryla said:
Hi,can someone change aspect ratio in 13MP from 4:3 to 16:9 because I took pictures in 16:9 but for Xperia Z is it only 9MP .
It could to be happy
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+1. Would be great. I hate that grey/black cut when using 13 MP... somehow it should be possible to show 16:9 but shoot in 13MP...
Would be fantastic! Even if in liveview the sides would be cut off and not visible!
Maybe some Xposed framework-dev can do something about that?
There is one xposed-module which shoots 20MP (Z1) / 13MP (Z) in superior mode... I'll ask that dev if he can try to get rid of the black/grey cut
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Can someone make this? Please

I belive it is impossible due to aspect ratios being different. If you really want 13mp at 16:9, the image would probably have to look stretched

You dont know what megapixel is? The reason 16:9 is 9MP is because it's just a cropped 13MP shot. There's no real widescreen on these phones, so there's not much point to use anything except 4:3 13MP. Later, on your computer, you can crop the images if you really feel like getting that pseudowidescreen feel. What I'd love to see is if someone could make a mod so the camera could shoot in 4:3 HD, instead of "widescreen" HD only. Like 960x720.

Kocayine said:
You dont know what megapixel is? The reason 16:9 is 9MP is because it's just a cropped 13MP shot. There's no real widescreen on these phones, so there's not much point to use anything except 4:3 13MP. Later, on your computer, you can crop the images if you really feel like getting that pseudowidescreen feel. What I'd love to see is if someone could make a mod so the camera could shoot in 4:3 HD, instead of "widescreen" HD only. Like 960x720.
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And you probably didn't get what we are searching for:
Shooting with 13MP but without the ugly dark grey background behind the buttons (shall be transparent like in 9MP-mode): see screenshot.
As already said: I wouldn't care if the LiveView would crop the left/right pixel, as long as the resulting image has 13MP

this app will do it for u!
it's normally paid, but i have it in my computer for free for everyone
MOD EDIT: warez is not allowed
dryla said:
Hi,can someone change aspect ratio in 13MP from 4:3 to 16:9 because I took pictures in 16:9 but for Xperia Z is it only 9MP .
It could to be happy
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sea2605 said:
And you probably didn't get what we are searching for:
Shooting with 13MP but without the ugly dark grey background behind the buttons (shall be transparent like in 9MP-mode): see screenshot.
As already said: I wouldn't care if the LiveView would crop the left/right pixel, as long as the resulting image has 13MP
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I still don't get it. Do you want to take a 4:3 picture but make it so it looks like 16:9 on your screen so that the camera app looks nicer?

Erm, Google Stock 4.3 Camera??
Erm Despite of having JPEG 13MP in 16:9 Ratio, how about "feeling" of snapping 13MP pictures in 16:9ratio?
I found this thread here and installed without root access. It provides Google Stock Gallery and Camera. PhotoSphere working, everything working under 4.3 stock firmware. So give a try?
Example of screenshot cropped under my screen without navigation bar (I was unable to screenshoot directly because the camera used it as shutter button) It was 16:9 UI looks using 13MP, but output of picture is 4:3
PS: If this helpful, pls don't mind to hit "thanks" button here and original thread ya Cheers
Whitefang

Woah. Now some people like 16:9 ratio photos...
Maybe someday, phones use 16:9 sensor?
Back in old days, 35mm film is 3:2. Digital photography changes to 4:3 (still 3:2 for high-end/DSLR). Now 16:9 because of phone screen?
for who wants 13MP in Xperia Z -> you can't. That pixel and ratio is because of the hardware, not the software
If you want real 13MP in 16:9 ratio - you must change the image sensor (hardware that captures color and changes to voltage)

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Woah. Now some people like 16:9 ratio photos...
Maybe someday, phones use 16:9 sensor?
Back in old days, 35mm film is 3:2. Digital photography changes to 4:3 (still 3:2 for high-end/DSLR). Now 16:9 because of phone screen?
for who wants 13MP in Xperia Z -> you can't. That pixel and ratio is because of the hardware, not the software
If you want real 13MP in 16:9 ratio - you must change the image sensor (hardware that captures color and changes to voltage)
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Indeed. But I think these people just want the 16:9 look on-screen but 4:3 result in picture. Meaning, they dont mind that they cant see the entire 4:3 photo they're taking, on the screen.
All for the sake of how it looks.

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How selfish and disrespectful to the OP to carry on battles in his thread
This matter has been handled and closed
There is also NEVER any reason to post profanity or personal attacks on this development site
Take it to My Face or Twitbook
Now stick to the 16:9 discussion
Thank you for your cooperation
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Guys, i want to shoot 13 MP photos in 16:9 aspect ratio, so that while shooting the grey background will be gone and also the picture should be shown in 16:9 ratio in the album. So it will look like i have taken a widescreen picture in 13 MP mode. Is there any possible app or a mod that can be used to tweak the camera?

For that to happen, you would have to change the resolution of the image captured by the camera sensor and I don't think that's possible without stretching it as previously stated.
As previously discussed, the 16:9 aspect ratio settings available in the stock camera are simply crops of a larger 4:3 image.
I'm no expert on digital photography, but that's how I understand it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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[Q] Hope for the Nexus 6 Camera?

Alot of the reviews says, nexus 6 camera experience has been a "hit or miss" from taking a good pic even with HDR on. Would it help to install a new camera app and do some tweakings over it, or better yet use an xposed module (if any) to fix the issue?

I'm a photographer. Here's the thing.
Camera reviews on cell phones are reviewed by gadget freaks, not photographers. They're interested in specs, they think megapixels are important, they don't even mention the important stuff.
Android L is the first OS to have a decent camera api. This will allow the nexus camera - which is only inherently different from the note 4 camera in terms of software - to vastly outperform anything on the market given a good camera app.
This mythical camera app should take advantage of a few things - full manual control. Exposure compensation and AE/AF lock. Auto bracketing. Proper metering, with selections for spot through to matrix. FPS control. Video control with framerate and resolution options, and the ability to manually control or lock exposure and focus. And finally, take advantage of L's .dng output, so we can work on this in lightroom after we're done. I don't trust my $2000 camera to spit out a nice jpg processed the way I want it, I shoot raw, I sure as hell don't trust a phone.
The nexus 6 looks to have some nice hardware. Let the software take advantage of it and you'll be happy.

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I'm a photographer. Here's the thing.
Camera reviews on cell phones are reviewed by gadget freaks, not photographers. They're interested in specs, they think megapixels are important, they don't even mention the important stuff.
Android L is the first OS to have a decent camera api. This will allow the nexus camera - which is only inherently different from the note 4 camera in terms of software - to vastly outperform anything on the market given a good camera app.
This mythical camera app should take advantage of a few things - full manual control. Exposure compensation and AE/AF lock. Auto bracketing. Proper metering, with selections for spot through to matrix. FPS control. Video control with framerate and resolution options, and the ability to manually control or lock exposure and focus. And finally, take advantage of L's .dng output, so we can work on this in lightroom after we're done. I don't trust my $2000 camera to spit out a nice jpg processed the way I want it, I shoot raw, I sure as hell don't trust a phone.
The nexus 6 looks to have some nice hardware. Let the software take advantage of it and you'll be happy.
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Good post. My girlfriend is a photographer but her biggest complaints were:
- The lens should've been bigger (1.5/3 at least - according to her the sheer size of this phone would have allowed for a much bigger lens, even 1.2/3).
- The dual LED flashes would likely overexpose the images due to their placement on the back of the phone. Sure, aesthetically it can look good (depending on your preference) but logically it will risk adding too much exposure to photos. The Note 4, 6+, top Nokia phones with large lenses all have the flashes further away from the lens for example (for good reason).
- The type of flash (LED) wont be as good an xenon flash (or dual). According to her the phone body is definitely thick enough to house the bigger flash; this would reduce noise in the images and provide better lighting/exposure in photos.
She also mentioned that even with a 10/10 camera app which does absolutely everything you want, the photo quality will not be much better (maybe the same as or potentially still worse) compared with the Note 4 or even iPhone 6+. Yes the hardware might be similar but the placement of the flash compared with the Note 4 will affect the way the camera captures photos with flash enabled. As, even though TW in Samsung has major issues it does have very heavily optimised camera software which will always improve - better than every camera app that I personally know of.
Front facing camera however will not complete with the Note 4. From demo's , despite being higher MP than the iPhone 6+, the results are worse. I do not know why, it could be down to the quality of the lens in the front but the Nexus 6 FF camera quality isn't much better than the Nexus 5 (it looks the same to me).

spartanm99 said:
Good post. My girlfriend is a photographer but her biggest complaints were:
- The lens should've been bigger (1.5/3 at least - according to her the sheer size of this phone would have allowed for a much bigger lens, even 1.2/3).
- The dual LED flashes would likely overexpose the images due to their placement on the back of the phone. Sure, aesthetically it can look good (depending on your preference) but logically it will risk adding too much exposure to photos. The Note 4, 6+, top Nokia phones with large lenses all have the flashes further away from the lens for example (for good reason).
- The type of flash (LED) wont be as good an xenon flash (or dual). According to her the phone body is definitely thick enough to house the bigger flash; this would reduce noise in the images and provide better lighting/exposure in photos.
She also mentioned that even with a 10/10 camera app which does absolutely everything you want, the photo quality will not be much better (maybe the same as or potentially still worse) compared with the Note 4 or even iPhone 6+. Yes the hardware might be similar but the placement of the flash compared with the Note 4 will affect the way the camera captures photos with flash enabled. As, even though TW in Samsung has major issues it does have very heavily optimised camera software which will always improve - better than every camera app that I personally know of.
Front facing camera however will not complete with the Note 4. From demo's , despite being higher MP than the iPhone 6+, the results are worse. I do not know why, it could be down to the quality of the lens in the front but the Nexus 6 FF camera quality isn't much better than the Nexus 5 (it looks the same to me).
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A lens is proportionate to the sensor. On top of that? It's a fixed lens. They can make those extremely small when we're talking about phone sensors. There is also no mechanical shutter, meaning the lens can be even more compact. This is why mirrorless cameras have small lenses. This of course goes for cell phone lenses in general, but the reason is there's really no need to put a huge lens on a phone.
The dual LED flashes won't overexpose the image, don't worry. In the studio we use a ring flash - same concept - there are some versions that operate as a regular flash, and there's some versions that operate constant on. You can shoot with either. Studio LED lighting is even becoming a thing now, it's cool because you can control the color temp directly and change the brightness.. it's also always on so WYSIWYG. Either way your flash will operate TTL and will not overexpose Xenon - what a hotshoe flash uses - will just use a lot of energy and drain your batteries. LED is very efficient.
The ring flash appears to be too small to have the "ring flash effect", which is uniform lighting around a subject that is popular in fashion and hides blemishes.. I mean it's like the size of a finger. The source of the flash is too small to produce any meaningful difference between the "ring" flash and the regular samsung/iphone flashes. It's going to look about the same. If you see a difference, it's software.

I am just excited about the RAW support in 5.0. I am okay with an f/2.0 aperture on a device in my pocket. If I needed something better, my DSLR has a 50mm f/1.5 which is only a camera bag away

The problem I'm having with my Nexus 6 is lag. That is, I went into my 9 month old's room, and turned on the light. So, okay incandescent lighting, not too bright, but I wouldn't call it 'low-light', either. My little son is standing up in his crib bouncing around, and every now and again turning and smiling at me. I go for the shot with my nice Nexus 6....and in the FOUR SECONDS it takes for the camera to actually take the picture, he's looked away again. I tried several times. Each time, the camera did NOTHING for a few seconds and then took the shot when the window of opportunity was gone. WHAT THE HECK?!?!?! It didn't even look like it was doing any autofocus hunting.
THIS is very depressing. Anyone know of any camera apps that will actually, I don't know, take the picture when I actually ask it to?
Randy

I'm waiting for devs to work their magic on the camera. It has a great sensor (Sony IMX214) so the potential is there. I really wish they could use the G3's software because its great. Is there a way to make the G3's software work on the Nexus for the camera? It processes images really well and is very fast.

rmagruder said:
The problem I'm having with my Nexus 6 is lag. That is, I went into my 9 month old's room, and turned on the light. So, okay incandescent lighting, not too bright, but I wouldn't call it 'low-light', either. My little son is standing up in his crib bouncing around, and every now and again turning and smiling at me. I go for the shot with my nice Nexus 6....and in the FOUR SECONDS it takes for the camera to actually take the picture, he's looked away again. I tried several times. Each time, the camera did NOTHING for a few seconds and then took the shot when the window of opportunity was gone. WHAT THE HECK?!?!?! It didn't even look like it was doing any autofocus hunting.
THIS is very depressing. Anyone know of any camera apps that will actually, I don't know, take the picture when I actually ask it to?
Randy
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Do you have HDR+ enabled? If so that's why your focus takes so long. It's taking 3 pictures in a row and is great for still images. I find the camera with HDR+ off plenty fast.
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On another note is raw format already being supported on the 6 or is it coming in an update. I'm no photographer but I'm extremely pleased how well the camera functions. I've only had nexus devices. The last phone I had with a decent camera was the Nokia n 5

Smallsmx3 said:
Do you have HDR+ enabled? If so that's why your focus takes so long. It's taking 3 pictures in a row and is great for still images. I find the camera with HDR+ off plenty fast.
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On another note is raw format already being supported on the 6 or is it coming in an update. I'm no photographer but I'm extremely pleased how well the camera functions. I've only had nexus devices. The last phone I had with a decent camera was the Nokia n 5
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No, HDR+ was NOT on, nor was the flash. I just wanted it to snap the stupid picture with as little muss n fuss as possible

I extracted the lib files and camera apk/odex from my g3 is there anything else I would need to make it work? I can get the framework from my system files if needed. I want to see if this will help the camera at all considering it had a lot of potential.

Pilz said:
I extracted the lib files and camera apk/odex from my g3 is there anything else I would need to make it work? I can get the framework from my system files if needed. I want to see if this will help the camera at all considering it had a lot of potential.
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Let us know how it goes

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No, HDR+ was NOT on, nor was the flash. I just wanted it to snap the stupid picture with as little muss n fuss as possible
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Then something is broken on your phone. Completely stock N6, not even root let alone disabling encryption, without HDR+ or Flash... the phone takes pictures within half a second every time.

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Let us know how it goes
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It's still FC's even after I moved the camera.apk and camera.odex into the system/app and I wrote over the Nexus's libs with the G3's. I'm not sure why its FC's maybe I can install the framework.apk from my G3 and see if that works.

Try some low light shots....

tripler6 said:
I'm a photographer. Here's the thing.
Camera reviews on cell phones are reviewed by gadget freaks, not photographers. They're interested in specs, they think megapixels are important, they don't even mention the important stuff.
Android L is the first OS to have a decent camera api. This will allow the nexus camera - which is only inherently different from the note 4 camera in terms of software - to vastly outperform anything on the market given a good camera app.
This mythical camera app should take advantage of a few things - full manual control. Exposure compensation and AE/AF lock. Auto bracketing. Proper metering, with selections for spot through to matrix. FPS control. Video control with framerate and resolution options, and the ability to manually control or lock exposure and focus. And finally, take advantage of L's .dng output, so we can work on this in lightroom after we're done. I don't trust my $2000 camera to spit out a nice jpg processed the way I want it, I shoot raw, I sure as hell don't trust a phone.
The nexus 6 looks to have some nice hardware. Let the software take advantage of it and you'll be happy.
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Any chance for Slo Mo video (at least 120fps) with this "mythical camera app"?

rmagruder said:
Try some low light shots....
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I found this thread after searching for a better camera for my n6. Realized after reading your post that it is the low light shots that suffer from severe shutter lag. Pics in good light are perfect. Ugh. My original moto x Dev. Took awesome pics compared to this low light garbage

Cwoomer said:
I found this thread after searching for a better camera for my n6. Realized after reading your post that it is the low light shots that suffer from severe shutter lag. Pics in good light are perfect. Ugh. My original moto x Dev. Took awesome pics compared to this low light garbage
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The pics are great when you are in a very well lit place. The moment you start to lose even a little light (semi lit), the camera really struggles. I'm very disappointed to start, but I'm going to stay patient and wait for Google to fix this.

Pilz said:
I'm waiting for devs to work their magic on the camera. It has a great sensor (Sony IMX214) so the potential is there. I really wish they could use the G3's software because its great. Is there a way to make the G3's software work on the Nexus for the camera? It processes images really well and is very fast.
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The G3 is the best camera on a phone because of the hardware.. not sure if the software has much to do with it because I've switched camera apps on that phone many times and the pics still come out amazing

dannieloco said:
The G3 is the best camera on a phone because of the hardware.. not sure if the software has much to do with it because I've switched camera apps on that phone many times and the pics still come out amazing
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The G3 uses the IMX135 sensor while the Nexus uses the IMX214 which is a better sensor. So in theory the Nexus 6 is capable of better photos if the software can back it up. The G3 still uses the lib's and framework from LG no matter what camera app you are using from what I understand.

Anyone know anything about the Slo Mo capabilities? Im wanting to buy the N6 but the Slo Mo feature is really important to me. Hopefully it is possible with the sensor which everyone seems to regard as a pretty high quality sensor.

Set up stock camera resolution

Hello,
How to set up the camera resolution.
All my photos are going 12MP. I want to have the option to make shoots with lower resolution. I belive it should be possible.
I cannot see the option in the camera settings. My phone is stock with the latest update w/o root.
Thank you!

StanXDA1 said:
Hello,
How to set up the camera resolution.
All my photos are going 12MP. I want to have the option to make shoots with lower resolution. I belive it should be possible.
I cannot see the option in the camera settings. My phone is stock with the latest update w/o root.
Thank you!
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You have it in settings

mariosenta said:
You have it in settings
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I mean the resolution. Not camera frame!

StanXDA1 said:
I mean the resolution. Not camera frame!
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? When you change frame, you change resolution. Chek it out.

mariosenta said:
? When you change frame, you change resolution. Chek it out.
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It is not like you are setting up the resolution. For example : 640x480 pixels .
Of course the resolution is different if you change the frame. But still I cannot set up the resolution.

StanXDA1 said:
It is not like you are setting up the resolution. For example : 640x480 pixels .
Of course the resolution is different if you change the frame. But still I cannot set up the resolution.
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If you change the frame to 4:3 you will shoot pic with 12mpx, if you change 16:9 you will shoot pic with 9 mpix, and if you change to 18:9 you will shoot with 8mpix, this answer your question.
Or, just use moded gcam, you have root, you can manualy set everything.

mariosenta said:
If you change the frame to 4:3 you will shoot pic with 12mpx, if you change 16:9 you will shoot pic with 9 mpix, and if you change to 18:9 you will shoot with 8mpix, this answer your question.
Or, just use moded gcam, you have root, you can manualy set everything.
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Yes, you explained the changing of the frame. But I have no control over the resolution.
I do not know why is so difficult for understanding.
As far as i know the device is equipped with 20mp camera. We should be able to shoot 20mp,16mp,14.....photos.
But probably the software is not adopted to do that...
Have a nice day!

StanXDA1 said:
Yes, you explained the changing of the frame. But I have no control over the resolution.
I do not know why is so difficult for understanding.
As far as i know the device is equipped with 20mp camera. We should be able to shoot 20mp,16mp,14.....photos.
But probably the software is not adopted to do that...
Have a nice day!
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Main camera senzor on A2 is 12mpix, 20 mpix senzor is only for low light. I understand what you are saying, you cant select manualy wanted resolution or how much pixels you want, with frame changing you wil lower the mpix, but not the resolution.
My sugestion is to try gcam, its far better in every aspect, stock camera app is not that good and it have poor settings.

StanXDA1 said:
Yes, you explained the changing of the frame. But I have no control over the resolution.
I do not know why is so difficult for understanding.
As far as i know the device is equipped with 20mp camera. We should be able to shoot 20mp,16mp,14.....photos.
But probably the software is not adopted to do that...
Have a nice day!
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Here is a screenshoot of how you change the resolution on gcam.

StanXDA1 said:
Yes, you explained the changing of the frame. But I have no control over the resolution.
I do not know why is so difficult for understanding.
As far as i know the device is equipped with 20mp camera. We should be able to shoot 20mp,16mp,14.....photos.
But probably the software is not adopted to do that...
Have a nice day!
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Yes you can ?.
Go to manual mode and change to low light lens.
Simple..

mariosenta said:
Here is a screenshoot of how you change the resolution on gcam.
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It is exactly what is missing in the stock camera soft.
Thank you!
BR

Question Super Slow Motion Video

I'm opening this thread since I don't see it there.
Why do I get the impression that the 960 FPS Slow Motion that the Camera does is actually an interpolated version of a 240 FPS version?
Today I was curious to see how good it was, I put the 960 FPS mode and I said: I will finally be able to see every little detail of my experiments and social life.
I was very disappointed to see that after the video had been processed I would find myself with an old acquaintance of interpolation algorithms such as RIFE, CAIN or DAIN... The distortions. These flaws are common when interpolating videos as the AI is trying to guess where the next pixel will go in the next frame, as a consequence sometimes a teleportation effect is generated and that's what I realized today.
Honestly, that has left me disappointed because now I know that in the 960 FPS version, 3 out of 4 frames are not real.
It would be stupid to ask but the camera and processor specs support 960 FPS video. Why didn't Motorola actually implement it? Instead it is using the NPU to Interpolate

fulltronservice said:
I'm opening this thread since I don't see it there.
Why do I get the impression that the 960 FPS Slow Motion that the Camera does is actually an interpolated version of a 240 FPS version?
Today I was curious to see how good it was, I put the 960 FPS mode and I said: I will finally be able to see every little detail of my experiments and social life.
I was very disappointed to see that after the video had been processed I would find myself with an old acquaintance of interpolation algorithms such as RIFE, CAIN or DAIN... The distortions. These flaws are common when interpolating videos as the AI is trying to guess where the next pixel will go in the next frame, as a consequence sometimes a teleportation effect is generated and that's what I realized today.
Honestly, that has left me disappointed because now I know that in the 960 FPS version, 3 out of 4 frames are not real.
It would be stupid to ask but the camera and processor specs support 960 FPS video. Why didn't Motorola actually implement it? Instead it is using the NPU to Interpolate
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They couldn't be bothered. Much about this device is made just to seem good on the surface but actually using it is a different story. I, for example, doubt that the main camera is even 108MP. Taking photos in 108MP does not offer any more detail than 12MP. They honestly should have just gone for an OIS 16MP or something but no, they went backwards from last generation and slapped in this garbage sensor, which is a shame since the telephoto and wide angle are actually great. I also noticed the messed up "960fps video" and I just never use it.

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They couldn't be bothered. Much about this device is made just to seem good on the surface but actually using it is a different story. I, for example, doubt that the main camera is even 108MP. Taking photos in 108MP does not offer any more detail than 12MP. They honestly should have just gone for an OIS 16MP or something but no, they went backwards from last generation and slapped in this garbage sensor, which is a shame since the telephoto and wide angle are actually great. I also noticed the messed up "960fps video" and I just never use it.
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Actually in the rest of the sections I am satisfied for the price of the phone but in the quality of the main camera I was disappointed. I'm still using GCam and I can't find a way to make the photo display with its details.

fulltronservice said:
Actually in the rest of the sections I am satisfied for the price of the phone but in the quality of the main camera I was disappointed. I'm still using GCam and I can't find a way to make the photo display with its details.
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What do you mean by "display with it's detail"? The phone does take soft pictures with the main camera, I know. Shooting in RAW and opening the images in Light Room does show that there is a lot of detail that gets crushed due to the aggressive denoise algorithm that GCam uses, and the main camera app sharpens the image so much that it ends up looking like an oil painting.

Username: Required said:
What do you mean by "display with it's detail"? The phone does take soft pictures with the main camera, I know. Shooting in RAW and opening the images in Light Room does show that there is a lot of detail that gets crushed due to the aggressive denoise algorithm that GCam uses, and the main camera app sharpens the image so much that it ends up looking like an oil painting.
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With details I was referring to the information that the camera captures when you zoom in and start to see noise. I find no way to prevent the noise algorithm from creating corrections far from reality. When you take a picture, the photo is perfect until you zoom to 4x. You realize that you start to see noise and lose detail. And Motorola in the camera content update it released earlier this week hasn't fixed anything.