What is Google thinking releasing a camera app with only 4:3 instead of widescreen?
No touch to focus... why!? This is like a standard an most phones now. The camera supports it, why not use it?
Because photos look wrong in 16:9?
I hated it when I had the Desire ROM on the phone, and all they end up doing is cropping of the a bit from the top/bottom which you could do yourself in any good photo editing software.
What about touch to focus?
And just because you like 4:3 doesn't mean everyone does or should.
Just because you don't like 4:3 doesn't mean everyone doesn't or shouldn't.
bcpk said:
Just because you don't like 4:3 doesn't mean everyone doesn't or shouldn't.
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They could have added both, and let you choose.
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They could have added both, and let you choose.
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It would've just been a cropped 4:3 image anyways, I don't really see the point. It has to be either a cropped 4:3 image or a cropped 16:9 image, you make the choice...
Here you have a 4:3 image from the sensor, you can crop it any way you like.
Both as options would have been tits.
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Here's an interesting concept.
Can we adjust a setting to get 8mp widescreen? Either in the build.prop where we can adjust the flash or in Ticamproperties I think in the etc folder.
If possible would be amazing! Haven't been able to figure this one out though.
gkitab said:
Here's an interesting concept.
Can we adjust a setting to get 8mp widescreen? Either in the build.prop where we can adjust the flash or in Ticamproperties I think in the etc folder.
If possible would be amazing! Haven't been able to figure this one out though.
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When you make a 8MP picture widescreen it becomes 6MP...
A 8MP widescreen picture would require it to be wider than 3264 pixels which I think is not possible
gkitab said:
Here's an interesting concept.
Can we adjust a setting to get 8mp widescreen? Either in the build.prop where we can adjust the flash or in Ticamproperties I think in the etc folder.
If possible would be amazing! Haven't been able to figure this one out though.
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The only problem with your idea is the fact that 8MP resolution (something around 3264x2448) has a different aspect ratio than the Droid 3's screen (16:9) You won't be able to get a widescreen 8MP image unless you manage to stretch the photo out, not sure if that would ruin the image.
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, not sure if that would ruin the image.
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It would....
8 megapixel widescreen, by definition, does not/will not exist.
Nothing will prevent to build a 16/9 sensor with 8 Mpixel, simply most of the sensors are still 4/3 or 3/2, and the droid's one is not an exception.
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Nothing will prevent to build a 16/9 sensor with 8 Mpixel, simply most of the sensors are still 4/3 or 3/2, and the droid's one is not an exception.
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You could do something similar to 8MP, although it's not going to be the 8MP pixel resolution.
Any image with 8 millions of pixel is an 8Mpixel image, even a stripe made of 1x8,000,000 pixels.
It's different when you name a format like VGA, qVGA, qHD and so on.
Those definitions are imping not only the number of pixels but also the aspect ratio.
8MP widescreen picture would need to be around 3760*2115. The sensor can't take a 3760 pixel wide image in 1 shot, so....(or that tall for that matter)
For the record Omnivision has already an high megapixel sensor which is natively 16/9.
It's a 4320x2430 (10Mpixel) sensor
http://www.ovt.com/download_document.php?type=sensor&sensorid=101
Maybe we will see it on droid 5 or whatever...
Got it. Im not exactly a camera wiz. Thanks for taking time to explain things. I read about many other camera tweaks and came up with one myself to increase the camcorder and camera flash. So of course that got my mind thinking. If nothing else its an interesting discussion. Thanks again everyone.
Hi,can someone change aspect ratio in 13MP from 4:3 to 16:9 because I took pictures in 16:9 but for Xperia Z is it only 9MP .
It could to be happy
dryla said:
Hi,can someone change aspect ratio in 13MP from 4:3 to 16:9 because I took pictures in 16:9 but for Xperia Z is it only 9MP .
It could to be happy
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+1. Would be great. I hate that grey/black cut when using 13 MP... somehow it should be possible to show 16:9 but shoot in 13MP...
Would be fantastic! Even if in liveview the sides would be cut off and not visible!
Maybe some Xposed framework-dev can do something about that?
There is one xposed-module which shoots 20MP (Z1) / 13MP (Z) in superior mode... I'll ask that dev if he can try to get rid of the black/grey cut
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I belive it is impossible due to aspect ratios being different. If you really want 13mp at 16:9, the image would probably have to look stretched
You dont know what megapixel is? The reason 16:9 is 9MP is because it's just a cropped 13MP shot. There's no real widescreen on these phones, so there's not much point to use anything except 4:3 13MP. Later, on your computer, you can crop the images if you really feel like getting that pseudowidescreen feel. What I'd love to see is if someone could make a mod so the camera could shoot in 4:3 HD, instead of "widescreen" HD only. Like 960x720.
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You dont know what megapixel is? The reason 16:9 is 9MP is because it's just a cropped 13MP shot. There's no real widescreen on these phones, so there's not much point to use anything except 4:3 13MP. Later, on your computer, you can crop the images if you really feel like getting that pseudowidescreen feel. What I'd love to see is if someone could make a mod so the camera could shoot in 4:3 HD, instead of "widescreen" HD only. Like 960x720.
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And you probably didn't get what we are searching for:
Shooting with 13MP but without the ugly dark grey background behind the buttons (shall be transparent like in 9MP-mode): see screenshot.
As already said: I wouldn't care if the LiveView would crop the left/right pixel, as long as the resulting image has 13MP
this app will do it for u!
it's normally paid, but i have it in my computer for free for everyone
MOD EDIT: warez is not allowed
dryla said:
Hi,can someone change aspect ratio in 13MP from 4:3 to 16:9 because I took pictures in 16:9 but for Xperia Z is it only 9MP .
It could to be happy
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And you probably didn't get what we are searching for:
Shooting with 13MP but without the ugly dark grey background behind the buttons (shall be transparent like in 9MP-mode): see screenshot.
As already said: I wouldn't care if the LiveView would crop the left/right pixel, as long as the resulting image has 13MP
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I still don't get it. Do you want to take a 4:3 picture but make it so it looks like 16:9 on your screen so that the camera app looks nicer?
Erm, Google Stock 4.3 Camera??
Erm Despite of having JPEG 13MP in 16:9 Ratio, how about "feeling" of snapping 13MP pictures in 16:9ratio?
I found this thread here and installed without root access. It provides Google Stock Gallery and Camera. PhotoSphere working, everything working under 4.3 stock firmware. So give a try?
Example of screenshot cropped under my screen without navigation bar (I was unable to screenshoot directly because the camera used it as shutter button) It was 16:9 UI looks using 13MP, but output of picture is 4:3
PS: If this helpful, pls don't mind to hit "thanks" button here and original thread ya Cheers
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Woah. Now some people like 16:9 ratio photos...
Maybe someday, phones use 16:9 sensor?
Back in old days, 35mm film is 3:2. Digital photography changes to 4:3 (still 3:2 for high-end/DSLR). Now 16:9 because of phone screen?
for who wants 13MP in Xperia Z -> you can't. That pixel and ratio is because of the hardware, not the software
If you want real 13MP in 16:9 ratio - you must change the image sensor (hardware that captures color and changes to voltage)
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Woah. Now some people like 16:9 ratio photos...
Maybe someday, phones use 16:9 sensor?
Back in old days, 35mm film is 3:2. Digital photography changes to 4:3 (still 3:2 for high-end/DSLR). Now 16:9 because of phone screen?
for who wants 13MP in Xperia Z -> you can't. That pixel and ratio is because of the hardware, not the software
If you want real 13MP in 16:9 ratio - you must change the image sensor (hardware that captures color and changes to voltage)
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Indeed. But I think these people just want the 16:9 look on-screen but 4:3 result in picture. Meaning, they dont mind that they cant see the entire 4:3 photo they're taking, on the screen.
All for the sake of how it looks.
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Guys, i want to shoot 13 MP photos in 16:9 aspect ratio, so that while shooting the grey background will be gone and also the picture should be shown in 16:9 ratio in the album. So it will look like i have taken a widescreen picture in 13 MP mode. Is there any possible app or a mod that can be used to tweak the camera?
For that to happen, you would have to change the resolution of the image captured by the camera sensor and I don't think that's possible without stretching it as previously stated.
As previously discussed, the 16:9 aspect ratio settings available in the stock camera are simply crops of a larger 4:3 image.
I'm no expert on digital photography, but that's how I understand it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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HI EVERYONE!
is there any way or some application that lets you use the 2 rear cameras at the same time to take just one photo and thereby increase the image resolution? Mixing pixels or by interpolation, I do not know.
Somebody knows?
Thank you all!
gpfmello said:
HI EVERYONE!
is there any way or some application that lets you use the 2 rear cameras at the same time to take just one photo and thereby increase the image resolution? Mixing pixels or by interpolation, I do not know.
Somebody knows?
Thank you all!
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Well the camera does somewhat support this as it does use both cameras when you use the live focus option. Not exactly what you're looking for but if you're good at editing photos you can get it done.
When using Live Focus, it'll take a pic with both lenses and you'll be able to export a copy of the "wide" angled pic and one of the zoomed one. Only drawback is that the zoomed pic is already zoomed so you'll end up needing to zoom in the wide pic to match it.
Again, not exactly what you're asking for but only thing I can think of. I believe this is the only option as one lense is zoomed in permanently.
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Well the camera does somewhat support this as it does use both cameras when you use the live focus option. Not exactly what you're looking for but if you're good at editing photos you can get it done.
When using Live Focus, it'll take a pic with both lenses and you'll be able to export a copy of the "wide" angled pic and one of the zoomed one. Only drawback is that the zoomed pic is already zoomed so you'll end up needing to zoom in the wide pic to match it.
Again, not exactly what you're asking for but only thing I can think of. I believe this is the only option as one lense is zoomed in permanently.
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I think you're right ... thank you very much for your answer
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I think you're right ... thank you very much for your answer
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No problem bro. [emoji1417]
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Hi all,
Asking for my dad who is looking at the P20 Pro as a replacement for his Lumia 1020. He's extremely picky & wants an amazing camera, and the P20 Pro fits all his expectations.
The only thing we've noticed when looking at demo devices is that the camera only supports 4:3 images at 40MP. He specifically wants 16:9 or even 18:9 images at high resolution - I'm unable to install 3rd party camera apps on the demo phone we've looked at however.
Can anyone here that owns the phone confirm it does or doesn't support this camera mode?
Thanks in advance ?
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Hi all,
Asking for my dad who is looking at the P20 Pro as a replacement for his Lumia 1020. He's extremely picky & wants an amazing camera, and the P20 Pro fits all his expectations.
The only thing we've noticed when looking at demo devices is that the camera only supports 4:3 images at 40MP. He specifically wants 16:9 or even 18:9 images at high resolution - I'm unable to install 3rd party camera apps on the demo phone we've looked at however.
Can anyone here that owns the phone confirm it does or doesn't support this camera mode?
Thanks in advance
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Yep sadly that's correct
Screen captures of Stock Camera and FV-5
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For now, tell him to keep that 1020, wish I had never sold mine, had the camera grip for it and the photos it took where something else!
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Yep sadly that's correct
Screen captures of Stock Camera and FV-5
For now, tell him to keep that 1020, wish I had never sold mine, had the camera grip for it and the photos it took where something else!
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Thanks for the reply! Have you tried with any other 3rd party camera apps? Think we're both hoping it's gonna happen eventually as I'm tempted by the Pro myself haha.
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Thanks for the reply! Have you tried with any other 3rd party camera apps? Think we're both hoping it's gonna happen eventually as I'm tempted by the Pro myself haha.
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Okay so Open Camera gives same options as FV-5 BUT Camera MX offers 7296x4104 so 30mp
ImpulseGX said:
Hi all,
Asking for my dad who is looking at the P20 Pro as a replacement for his Lumia 1020. He's extremely picky & wants an amazing camera, and the P20 Pro fits all his expectations.
The only thing we've noticed when looking at demo devices is that the camera only supports 4:3 images at 40MP. He specifically wants 16:9 or even 18:9 images at high resolution - I'm unable to install 3rd party camera apps on the demo phone we've looked at however.
Can anyone here that owns the phone confirm it does or doesn't support this camera mode?
Thanks in advance
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Real photos are 4:3 not 16:9. As photographer I hate 16:9 photos
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Real photos are 4:3 not 16:9. As photographer I hate 16:9 photos
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While that may be how the cameras are designed, most screens are 16:9 ratio. Phone cameras aren't designed for award winning photos just point & shoot. Looking at 4:3 images on a 16:9 screen just wastes display real estate...
This has been the case on every phone I've had. 4:3 will always be the highest resolution.
This is on my nexus 6p.
I'm the dad l lol
I simply want high res photos in widescreen.
Personally I can't see the issue.
My 6-7yr old. Lumia 1020 with 41 megapixel sensor, takes 38mp 4:3 pics or 34mp. 16:9 ones.
My Z5 premium takes 23mp 4:3 or 20mp 16:9 pics.
I don't want to get a phone with 40mp sensor and only be able to have 7mp images at a widescreen ratio, kinda defeats the point imo.
I also don't want to end up having to edit every photo to widescreen ratio, not the hundreds of photos I take ?
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While that may be how the cameras are designed, most screens are 16:9 ratio. Phone cameras aren't designed for award winning photos just point & shoot. Looking at 4:3 images on a 16:9 screen just wastes display real estate...
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Any photographer will understand that shooting in 16:9 is wasting pixels. And wasting sensor real estate
It decreased quality doesnt matter how you look at it.
If i need 16:9, i'll just go crop it myself.
I rather have a full quality image to be cropped later, instead of a "pseudo wide" image which cant be reverted back to full size (uncropped) in case i need it.
Ziddy7 said:
I'm the dad l lol
I simply want high res photos in widescreen.
Personally I can't see the issue.
My 6-7yr old. Lumia 1020 with 41 megapixel sensor, takes 38mp 4:3 pics or 34mp. 16:9 ones.
My Z5 premium takes 23mp 4:3 or 20mp 16:9 pics.
I don't want to get a phone with 40mp sensor and only be able to have 7mp images at a widescreen ratio, kinda defeats the point imo.
I also don't want to end up having to edit every photo to widescreen ratio, not the hundreds of photos I take
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Okay so Open Camera gives same options as FV-5 BUT Camera MX offers 7296x4104 so 30mp
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As mentioned, the Camera MX does offer a 30mp image at 16:9 but it seems to be the only one I've found so far.
even on my sony cameras, the 16:9 is lower resolution than 4:3
16:9 is only really good for monitors, otherwise standard 4:3 is the normal output
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Any photographer will understand that shooting in 16:9 is wasting pixels. And wasting sensor real estate
It decreased quality doesnt matter how you look at it.
If i need 16:9, i'll just go crop it myself.
I rather have a full quality image to be cropped later, instead of a "pseudo wide" image which cant be reverted back to full size (uncropped) in case i need it.
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Agree totally
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As mentioned, the Camera MX does offer a 30mp image at 16:9 but it seems to be the only one I've found so far.
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Is there a way to set that app as the default so when you swipe, it starts that instead of the onboard camera app?
Thanks for the reply ?
I tried that app on my Z5 premium (23mp sensor) and it only offered 10mp 16:9 images!
Strange as the standard one does 20mp 16:9
thank you for sorting out the Camera MX app, I have (or had) the same issue with the low res 16:9 settings on the p20 pro.
And i'm also not a photographer, but the only screens i'l use to look at my photo's will be 16:9 led-screens not 3:4 paper...
We've left the the 4:3 ratio on our TV's didn't we?
Shoot in 40mp then crop.
The 7mp wide is nearly 4k resolution anyway. But if you must go higher that is how.
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The dad is right. Cameras support 4:3 because that is closer to 1:1 which is the optimal sensor space behind a lens. However we left 4:3 tv's and monitors a long time ago. Even phones are not 4:3.
Shooting in 4:3 wastes screen space. It looks amateurish on every device but print. Yes you can crop later but thats a drag and its cumbersome to take the crop into account when shooting.
People just show pictures on their phone or screen share on tv. Or upload to a laptop or desktop. Neither device is 4:3. If you like to watch black bars or cutting your images, sure shoot 4:3. If you shoot to display them on a digital device then the first thing you do is shoot 16:9 exclusively.
Did anyone solved this 16:9 issue?
you have to finally decide if you are thinking about photography (then it will be 4:3) or if you want be just a casual picture shooter with the phone (16:9).
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While that may be how the cameras are designed, most screens are 16:9 ratio. Phone cameras aren't designed for award winning photos just point & shoot. Looking at 4:3 images on a 16:9 screen just wastes display real estate...
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Then just crop the image, with the frame you want, 9/10 you won't be shooting an exact image of what would be deemed a final product you would edit and change to the exact image to some degree.
If it's just for scrolling through on a phone? Then it's up to yourself, you'll find that 4:3 is the preferred method 16:9 is for video predominantly.
Hello, I wish have 16:9 mode on 108MP camera, and Horizontal level also important, if that possible please? S21U.
Thank you a lot!
marshartdegen said:
Hello, I wish have 16:9 mode on 108MP camera, and Horizontal level also important, if that possible please? S21U.
Thank you a lot!
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Shoot in 4:3, edit the shoot and croop in 16:9
UNIK97122 said:
Shoot in 4:3, edit the shoot and croop in 16:9
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Yes I do, but not good for sure which part can keep, or should move farther or not, better can have line to hint 16:9.
marshartdegen said:
Yes I do, but not good for sure which part can keep, or should move farther or not, better can have line to hint 16:9.
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in fact the 108 mpx mode is made for that, try a screenshoot with the little window on the top left side it will create a 33mpx pictures
UNIK97122 said:
in fact the 108 mpx mode is made for that, try a screenshoot with the little window on the top left side it will create a 33mpx pictures
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Well, 108MP is 12000*9000, so I need 12000*6750, lol
Also I know how to cut by software later, but take the 16:9 view is a problem.