i have learned so much on this site but there is one noob question i have to ask that i still dont fully understand... im wondering when rom developer recommends a "wipe" before flashing what are they refering too? I mean i understand wiping cache ive done that numerous times but i thought wiping data gets rid of everything on your phone? Is wiping data/factory reset the same thing? why would you want to delete everything on your phone in order to flash 1 rom.. maybe im missing something. I appreciate your replys!
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jarzy00 said:
i have learned so much on this site but there is one noob question i have to ask that i still dont fully understand... im wondering when rom developer recommends a "wipe" before flashing what are they refering too? I mean i understand wiping cache ive done that numerous times but i thought wiping data gets rid of everything on your phone? Is wiping data/factory reset the same thing? why would you want to delete everything on your phone in order to flash 1 rom.. maybe im missing something. I appreciate your replys!
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Wiping data is the same as a data/factory reset. Usually when switching between roms, application data is not compatable and will cause force closes. You can usually skip wiping data if flashing the same type of rom, eg, between blur roms, aosp gingerbread, aosp froyo. Sometimes you'll still get force closes and will need to wipe data anyways. If you use an app like mybackup root, you can backup all your apps prior to flashing a new rom, and restore just the app. This will prevent force closes, but you'll love any app data. But at least your apps aren't lost/forgotten.
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erismaster said:
Wiping data is the same as a data/factory reset. Usually when switching between roms, application data is not compatable and will cause force closes. You can usually skip wiping data if flashing the same type of rom, eg, between blur roms, aosp gingerbread, aosp froyo. Sometimes you'll still get force closes and will need to wipe data anyways. If you use an app like mybackup root, you can backup all your apps prior to flashing a new rom, and restore just the app. This will prevent force closes, but you'll love any app data. But at least your apps aren't lost/forgotten.
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Thank you
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Just have a couple of Questions about doing a factory reset.
I flashed european jpo using kies and have not done a factory reset because all of my region settings and carrier settings and market access remained intact from eclair (amazing I know what were the chances).
So having now backed everything up using titanium backup I am keen to do a factory reset because I have some forced closes in the browser and it took a loooong time to settle down after I upgraded.
Will I keep all my settings with a factory reset? Apn's etc?
What settings are recommended for both factory reset and restore, so far I get to NOT restore system apps.
Also what exactly is a 'hard reset'?
Finally should I even bother my phone runs well, just my battery life is a bit crap and browser crashes a bit
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Just have a couple of Questions about doing a factory reset.
Will I keep all my settings with a factory reset? Apn's etc?
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No you lose all settings. APNs, and non standard apps / apks in system apps as well I think
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What settings are recommended for both factory reset and restore, so far I get to NOT restore system apps.
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In my opinion, now that you have backed up your stuff, I would reflash JPO and tick re-partition. This will wipe everything back to factory and start you off on a clean slate. That way you will know whether your FCs are due to a bug in the firmware, rom or APK.
Thank you for your help, phone is pretty damn stable now I deleted a couple of apps I suspected and fc's have stopped
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Have any different between Factory Reset and Wipe from Recovery Menu ?
Regards
Hi Folks,
I am not new to this forum and i successfully flashed and tested out several custom ROMs. And yes, I know, I am still a Noob
But I have a weird problem now...
It doesn't matter which ROM I flash, my device won't get wiped. Well yes, I messed up my Nandroid backups, but:
I tried several kernels, ROMs and bootloaders. Even with the ones from samfirmware.com.
I tried it via Recovery and via the Android settings. And I've got all these old folders and files which don't get deleted when you uninstall an app. I'd really like to have a clean phone.
I know, it's a luxury problem, but it is very annoying.
So, could anyone please point me to some direction?
Thanks in Advance!
Cheers, berkley
What u mean by wipe? cant clean wipe on recovery?
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What u mean by wipe? cant clean wipe on recovery?
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Exact!!!
Well wipe does not wipe everything. I think to do what you are asking you need to format the internal SD card right after or maybe before a flash. That won't do the system stuff (I believe) but just the user area. The apks should recreate what they need afterwards.
But I haven't done it for a long time so don't trust me 100%. But that should do it and if you are flashing after it should clean it all up even if something useful got lost.
Graham
Use sd card maid to find legacy folders and for general clean up, amazing app
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All data will be wiped if you flash with Odin with PIT-file and 'Re-partition' ticked.
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could also try using the format internal SD card from the phones menu.
Does that mean that even a full reset doesn't wipe everything?
Full reset as done via punching in *2767*3855# on the dialer.
Hi Guys,
thanks for your nice words and help. I really don't know what was wrong. And I really don't know, what has fixed it!!! But now everything is working again. Thanks a ton!!!
Cheers, berkley
After flashing some new roms lately, I've been unable to restore my user apps with data, or else the apps will force close (weirdly, some apps work okay with a data restore, but the vast majority will fc). Also, when trying to restore back to my old rom (AOKP) via Nandroid, I get an error saying cannot mount /data, stopping the process. I tried deleting all my backups, making new ones, flashing stock, and yes I follow the OP exactly. I wanted to see if anyone has ever had this issue either on this ROM or another one. Any help appreciated, thanks.
To restore a Nandroid, you actually have to flash the rom first, then after it fully boots up restore your Nandroid. As for Apps and data, try restoring the apps first, rebooting, then restoring the data.
Referring to your app restore suggestion. That doesn't work. I've tried it
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Then i don't what else to suggest. You tried downloading apps fresh, then restoring your backed up data?
Common issue for me. Just wipe data first and it should work. No need to flash the ROM
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korockinout13 said:
Common issue for me. Just wipe data first and it should work. No need to flash the ROM
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Are you saying restore app + data. Then wipe data. Then restore data again?
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Then i don't what else to suggest. You tried downloading apps fresh, then restoring your backed up data?
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Yep. Doesn't work
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Use TiBu instead of Nandroid. Only had issue with porting my WiFi settings from GB to ICS.
But in general restoring apps with settings and data is a pain. That prevents me from becoming flash junkie.
I understand your concern with using nandroid. That was just a side statement. The issue is restoring USER apps with data. Why is this occurring now when it has never occurred before
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mikel.canovas said:
After flashing some new roms lately, I've been unable to restore my user apps with data, or else the apps will force close (weirdly, some apps work okay with a data restore, but the vast majority will fc).
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I just want to add that this exact same thing has happened to me on a variety of ICS ROMS (including AOKP M5) and I too follow the installation instructions including wiping and formatting.
Very annoying.
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Are you saying restore app + data. Then wipe data. Then restore data again?
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Sorry, sorry. I was specifically referring to the nandroid backup issue. IF while restoring, you can't get past "Cannot mount /data!", THEN wipe data, and continue restoring data by doing advanced restore from there (so you don't have to restore /boot and /system again...)
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Sorry, sorry. I was specifically referring to the nandroid backup issue. IF while restoring, you can't get past "Cannot mount /data!", THEN wipe data, and continue restoring data by doing advanced restore from there (so you don't have to restore /boot and /system again...)
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Ah okay. Thanks for the tip.
So no one has any idea what's the cause of this. Everyone who has come across this issue, including myself, seem to have no clue how to fix it. There's basically an exact same q&a thread on vibrant forums with the same issue and there's like 5 people there who cannot figure out why
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What happens if you dl from market without restoring data? Still get fc's?
without restoring data? No FC. After restoring data, FC.
Hey Mikel I just flashed Docs Master v11 which just came out. For the first time in a long time I did not have the app f/c problem at all. Everything ran fine right from TIBU restore.
I flashed this ROM exactly the same way as I've flashed the last few AOKP roms. Hmmmm..
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Hey everyone...
ive already tried to get some quick help already but i really need my phone tonight LOL.
iam running cm9 rom with the latest cm9 stable kernal, now i wanted to flash the hydrocore kernal to see if battery would improve, but it seemed fine but then choppy afew hours later so i changed back to cm9 kernal. Anyway after it rebooted it stayed on the paranoid android bootscreen! where you see the picture loading. i then tried to wipe the cache and dalvik and its still stuck. someone mentioned to do a wipe but i was unsure if he meant to a full wipe? as ive not wiped the factory reset, just the two caches! ive also flashed both kernals back and forth and im still stuck.
Its a simple issue iam sure but could someone help me, im unsure if i should do a full wipe including factory reset or just flash the cm9 rom again. if so can i have instructions step by step...
thank you.
islandmixed, you are on a safe kernel so there is no harm in performing a wipe data/factory reset.
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YLNdroid said:
islandmixed, you are on a safe kernel so there is no harm in performing a wipe data/factory reset.
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hi, yes i know but iam wondering is that my only option to do a full wipe? as i really do not want to restore my whole apps again. just wondering if wiping the data will solve it.
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hi, yes i know but iam wondering is that my only option to do a full wipe? as i really do not want to restore my whole apps again. just wondering if wiping the data will solve it.
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Do a nandroid backup and then pull all apps from it, without restoring whole backup.
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jeetu1981 said:
Do a nandroid backup and then pull all apps from it, without restoring whole backup.
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A full wipe worked, it rebooted. since iam weiry about restoring my apps again via mybackup pro i might just check all my apps installed from google and install them one by one and then that way i wont have to worry about anything going wrong. i do have a backup from TB and mybackup but someone said it can cause issues when restoring to a cm9 rom!
Thanks for the help. iam back again at the start HEHE.
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A full wipe worked, it rebooted. since iam weiry about restoring my apps again via mybackup pro i might just check all my apps installed from google and install them one by one and then that way i wont have to worry about anything going wrong. i do have a backup from TB and mybackup but someone said it can cause issues when restoring to a cm9 rom!
Thanks for the help. iam back again at the start HEHE.
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Restoring apps downloaded from play store does not cause any issue, its the stock samsung apps that wont work
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jeetu1981 said:
Restoring apps downloaded from play store does not cause any issue, its the stock samsung apps that wont work
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Oh I got it now. But why would any stock apps install? If the new rom will have its own stock apps. I didn't even know TB backed up stock apps. That makes it confusing to me
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islandmixed said:
Oh I got it now. But why would any stock apps install? If the new rom will have its own stock apps. I didn't even know TB backed up stock apps. That makes it confusing to me
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TB dont backup automatically, if you didnt backup stock then no confusion, restore all.
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TB dont backup automatically, if you didnt backup stock then no confusion, restore all.
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You know when I wiped data would it have wiped off the gapps? I'm sure I had more rom apps with this....hmmmm
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wipe data is totally wiping what's in your phone.. including what's inside the system/apps, build props and framework...
you may need to flash back your g.apps if you want to get all of them and selectively selecting which to install back(rather than just restoring it from TB)
TB does not restore all what you have made a backup to.
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wipe data is totally wiping what's in your phone.. including what's inside the system/apps, build props and framework...
you may need to flash back your g.apps if you want to get all of them and selectively selecting which to install back(rather than just restoring it from TB)
TB does not restore all what you have made a backup to.
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I restored apps with mybackup pro so I know it never backed up gapps so it deffo must have been wiped then? Now that I'm back on my rom can I just flash it in cwm? No wipes or anything. Cheers
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islandmixed said:
I restored apps with mybackup pro so I know it never backed up gapps so it deffo must have been wiped then? Now that I'm back on my rom can I just flash it in cwm? No wipes or anything. Cheers
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Yes you can flash Gapps in CWM without wiping.
sahilarora2003 said:
Yes you can flash Gapps in CWM without wiping.
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Hey
I just checked in es explorer and I have like 25 system apps like gmail playstore Google search browser torch paranoid android backup and a list of others so are these gapps? Just want to be sure incase my phone boot loops again.
Thanks
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islandmixed said:
Hey
I just checked in es explorer and I have like 25 system apps like gmail playstore Google search browser torch paranoid android backup and a list of others so are these gapps? Just want to be sure incase my phone boot loops again.
Thanks
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Yes these are gapps except paranoid android backup.
Swyped From My AOKP JB.
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Yes these are gapps except paranoid android backup.
Swyped From My AOKP JB.
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Okay then I guess the factory reset only deleted user apps then. I was told it deletes system apps which is why I thought it deleted gapps.
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Dear all, my questions might have been answered already, but the search function was not really helpful.
I am trying to do a reset like the factory reset, so to delete all except the system data...even the music and pictures....without sideloading a software....is it possible?
Thanks!!
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zimilaci said:
Dear all, my questions might have been answered already, but the search function was not really helpful.
I am trying to do a reset like the factory reset, so to delete all except the system data...even the music and pictures....without sideloading a software....is it possible?
Thanks!!
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Not sure what you mean about sideloading software. If you're OK with deleting your OS as well, the full wipe feature in TWRP will definitely do that. But that will leave you with NOTHING except TWRP, so don't do that unless you're willing and able to use adb to push a new ROM to the phone (there won't be anything saved on your SD) and flash it.
Well that exactly what I meant by writing sideloading (adb push) is there any way to avoid that?),
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umm I suppose you could try using the Advanced wipe in TWRP, it's an option after you click the WIPE button. It gives you a list of partitions you want to wipe. I suppose in theory you could wipe all but the system but I'm not sure if that's a good idea. I'd take a nandroid backup first (and put it on your computer.)
Why are you trying to avoid ADB?
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I am trying to do a reset like the factory reset, so to delete all except the system data...even the music and pictures....without sideloading a software....is it possible?
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This is perfectly safe. You should do "advanced wipe" and format userdata partition and sdcard. Just don't wipe "system".