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What's stock kernel？？And what's latest kernel?I found the words many times in many threads in this forum.Who can help me.Thank you in anvance.
i dont know the correct term but kernel is the thing that kinda complete a rom. u can open about phone under setting in ur phone to see ur current kernel. that is stock kernel.
some roms require certain kernel to enable the rom to works, n some roms can work properly with stock kernel or optional to use with custom kernel.
there are 3 kernels available now for x8, n the latest is nAa v07, however, note that the latest kernel doesnt means that it will provide the best performance. its just depends on the matter of whether the kernel is compatible or not with the rom
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Kernel is generally drivers in between your rom and your phone hardware..
Stock kernel is the kernel which is installed by default from the manufacture company.
Custom kernels are kernels made by developers to work better of the roms with the hardware..
sorry for bad english
it would be nice if primehd and gdx combine i mean a devs of that rom to make a rom for stock ....
sorry for the bad english
kind regards pls just want to share
Gingerdx is alredy for stock!
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PrimeHD is for stock too!
that's the point dude both do have stock incompatibilities and originated to doxah I mean primehd use the gdx doxah work setting..
Maybe he means combined-ultra-super-rom for stock.
rezzen25 said:
that's the point dude both do have stock incompatibilities and originated to doxah I mean primehd use the gdx doxah work setting..
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compatibilities i mean
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Maybe he means combined-ultra-super-rom for stock.
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yes thats the main point ,,,,cause the both do have same goal to make a clean lightweight rom its just to make a fast improvement for our x8 or w8
Prime hd uses shakira source, while gdx is built from hero....
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soumyasree said:
Prime hd uses shakira source, while gdx is built from hero....
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no im not ,, talking about the source but the benefits of what stock rom can achieve if both developers on both side combine! a great rom .,,,
rezzen25 said:
no im not ,, talking about the source but the benefits of what stock rom can achieve if both developers on both side combine! a great rom .,,,
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But you should actually talk "source" as that's the major difference at hand ...
HAKA's PrimeHD (for Stock Kernel) bases upon MiniCM7 while GingerDX, as laid out above, is based on the CM7 HTC Hero source combined with racht's hackDROID as the ROM's base.
HAKA, as he's a developer building from source, already got my permission to use whatever parts of GingerDX he likes to use, and as you can see he actually uses parts of the Cyanogenmod settings package in his stock kernel PrimeHD ROM.
However, since I think it's good, and only benefits the user base, to have a choice of different ROMs NOT being based on the same sources I don't see why we should produce yet another MiniCM7 fork (there are already countless mCM7 knock-offs from an army of c/p "devs") or merge into a single ROM.
In short: each one of us follows his own goal, and GingerDX is only one of three Gingerbread ROMs that are based on a unique platform ... like ... PrimeHD is based on MiniCM7, KuyaDROID spin-offs are based on the HTC Legend sources, and ours is based on the HTC Hero sources. Again: Choice and variety.
B.Jay said:
But you should actually talk "source" as that's the major difference at hand ...
HAKA's PrimeHD (for Stock Kernel) bases upon MiniCM7 while GingerDX, as laid out above, is based on the CM7 HTC Hero source combined with racht's hackDROID as the ROM's base.
HAKA, as he's a developer building from source, already got my permission to use whatever parts of GingerDX he likes to use, and as you can see he actually uses parts of the Cyanogenmod settings package in his stock kernel PrimeHD ROM.
However, since I think it's good, and only benefits the user base, to have a choice of different ROMs NOT being based on the same sources I don't see why we should produce yet another MiniCM7 fork (there are already countless mCM7 knock-offs from an army of c/p "devs") or merge into a single ROM.
In short: each one of us follows his own goal, and GingerDX is only one of three Gingerbread ROMs that are based on a unique platform ... like ... PrimeHD is based on MiniCM7, KuyaDROID spin-offs are based on the HTC Legend sources, and ours is based on the HTC Hero sources. Again: Choice and variety.
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I totally agree with you B.Jay
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since Bjay reply about it,, then the q&a is done haha ,,,its my first post in xda so Thank you for the comments,, Cause I'm a big fan of gDX and prime so i just wrote about a suggestion that I hope to happen XD
cause I cant unlock my BL so I have my Gratitude for the devs who continue the development of roms on stock Thank man
Hi, I would like to know what is kernel, and what would it change in the phone, performance and display, i'm a gamer, so i would like a good kernel for games like asphalt 6, FL Commando and And NOVA 6, and how to install it, i'm using Zeus 6.32n
thanks a lot
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I must admit that p970 is not so hard developed yet and as far as im concerned, we havent got any custom kernel for stock-based rom like Zeus. However, Diana kernel (which is used in newest version of Zeus v.36) is best for performance and battery life. As long as someone wont make a miracle, its only-one custom kernel for stock based ROMs.
In addition, it has overclocking and is tweaked for performance, so why do you need other kernel? Try installing newest version of zeus ROM and test if you are pleased with results.
Similar question: So if i install the newest zeus i already have a new kernel on the phone or do i still need to update the kernel? I now have Zeus v7.03 and the kernel version: 2.6.35. Any help is appreciated! Thx
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I must admit that p970 is not so hard developed yet and as far as im concerned, we havent got any custom kernel for stock-based rom like Zeus. However, Diana kernel (which is used in newest version of Zeus v.36) is best for performance and battery life. As long as someone wont make a miracle, its only-one custom kernel for stock based ROMs.
In addition, it has overclocking and is tweaked for performance, so why do you need other kernel? Try installing newest version of zeus ROM and test if you are pleased with results.
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rooney_10 said:
Similar question: So if i install the newest zeus i already have a new kernel on the phone or do i still need to update the kernel? I now have Zeus v7.03 and the kernel version: 2.6.35. Any help is appreciated! Thx
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If you install a newer Zeus Version 6.33 and up you have a different kernel that can use lower and higher frequencies. 2.6.35 is the basic linux kernel, alle Diana kernels have that number too. Up too diana kernel 2.3 it seems to be very stable, after 2.3 the kernels are all betas up till now and well beta is still experimental, for some it works well, for others maybe not. If you install Zeus 7.02 or .03 it comes with a beta kernel, but I'm rather sure you can still install the stable Diana kernel 2.3 after you installed Zeus 7.02 or .03.
BTW all that can be read in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454274 , but OK it might take some time to go read that all, but before you ask more questions maybe you should at least try to read some of that thread (first page and maybe about last 3 weeks).
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If you install a newer Zeus Version 6.33 and up you have a different kernel that can use lower and higher frequencies. 2.6.35 is the basic linux kernel, alle Diana kernels have that number too. Up too diana kernel 2.3 it seems to be very stable, after 2.3 the kernels are all betas up till now and well beta is still experimental, for some it works well, for others maybe not. If you install Zeus 7.02 or .03 it comes with a beta kernel, but I'm rather sure you can still install the stable Diana kernel 2.3 after you installed Zeus 7.02 or .03.
BTW all that can be read in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454274 , but OK it might take some time to go read that all, but before you ask more questions maybe you should at least try to read some of that thread (first page and maybe about last 3 weeks).
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Thx for the information! I did read some of the thread, but as you said it will take some time to read the whole thing
Realy sorry for my noob question, I have a locked bootloader
I was researching a bit about the ICS for xperia x8, seeing that only custom roms based on AVD run on stock kernel, because the AVD is based on the same kernel version.
But, isn't possible to adapt the CM9 to run on stock kernel?
Why the CM9 don't have support for X8 on Cyanogenmod website? How developers made Roms based on it?
Moreover, why all the custom kernels are based on version 2.6.29.6? It is impossible or unnecessary to create a custom kernel based on 2.6.32 or up?
Sorry for my bad English.
So ics can't run on stock kernel.Stock kernel miss a lot of components from 3.0 kernel.The kernel is 2.6.29.6 but to have 2.6.32 need to port a lot of stuff so this mean need a lot of time.The nAa kernel's and alfs' kernel is pathed to 2.6.29.6 For now we have ported some components from 32,35,38 and 3.0 kernels.
We do have ics for stock but it is not for daily use. And the development has stopped so don't expect updates/fixes.
As naa said, stock kernel really can't support ics.
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yes ics or jb on stock kernel is impossible and trying to port it is pointless.
We have ics for stock kernel, but gods sake its laggy, buggy. Its not good for daily use. U can find roms like ics. X8 is now old. But u can unlock bootloader by paid method. Next time please search.
Really thanks for your answers.
Interesting, I did not know that the custom kernels had several other superior features.
Actually run on ICS stock kernel is impossible, but there is very buggy roms projects based on avd can i run. What I was wondering is whether it is possible to install the CM9 on stock kernel. I do not think it was just out of curiosity noob ... :laugh:
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Really thanks for your answers.
Interesting, I did not know that the custom kernels had several other superior features.
Actually run on ICS stock kernel is impossible, but there is very buggy roms projects based on avd can i run. What I was wondering is whether it is possible to install the CM9 on stock kernel. I do not think it was just out of curiosity noob ... :laugh:
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Yeah. Its possible, check in development section.
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I've tried the only two ics roms for the x8 stock kernel, and I know it's possible to INSTALL, but did not to use, because there are more bugs than fixes.
My doubt is if I can INSTALL CM9 in stock kernel, since I tested these roms are pure android, not CyanogenMod, they are based in AVD, android debug bridge. :fingers-crossed:
Guys I have made a custom rom based on CM7.nAa 14 kernel is compatible with CM7.But I want my custom rom also to support it.http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/crying.gifI have downloaded the .ftf kernel file and I have also extracted it.What changes do I have to do in my rom to make my rom work with the kernel?
Please give a detailed answer.
@OP
Well kudos to you for finding the right section. And what CM7 ROM exactly have you based your ROM on?
It already started working.But thanks for you trying to help.
What I want to know is that there is no networking in my rom.
Please help me fix it.I am talking about a custom rom developed by me based on cm 7.1.
What CM7.1 ROM have you based this on? I'm asking whether you have based your work on any existing ROM or not and the name of that ROM. If that ROM supports nAa-14 kernel, then your ROM will support nAa-14 kernel too.
My rom is supporting the nAa 14 kernel,I have tested it I have a bug in the network. It has no network at the moment. Do you know a fix for this bug ? I am running a rom that is developed by me and I am now testing it.
I haven't released the from here yet.
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Network bug? I don't even know if logcats can be used to debug. Can you try re-flashing the kernel and the ROM?
Basically you not need to change anything in the kernel. You need change the userspace drivers in the rom to match with the kernel level drivers. Both active x8 gb kernel (nAa and alfs) use similar drivers, except the proximity sensor (nAa use a modded one, alfs use the stock driver), you can use both with the correct libsensorservice and hw libs. And not 100% sure, but nAa use the older kgsl driver (1.1) alfs use newer (1.2), need to change the driver in the rom (libgsl.so).
To solve the network errors, you need to check the RIL related binaries and settings. Better if you give more detailed infos your base rom, the "cm7.1 rom" is not enough. CM7 but the origins? CM7 exists on thousands of phones. Better if you use x8 rom, or rom from a phone what use same hardware (msm7x27 like lg p500, galaxy mini, htc legend, etc...)
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What more should I add to"cm 7.1"? Please make it clear. Its downloaded from the cyanogen mod download center. It is used as my base rom. I modded it with certain tweaks and replaced many apps and also added many other mods
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You could have said that it was downloaded directly from cyanogenmod.com for a start. It's pretty confusing when you say just CM7.1 because there are hundreds of CM7.1 ROMs lying around the Development forum, some for stock kernel, some for nAa-gb and others for alfs-gb.
Let me give you a tip if you're just adding tweaks and other mods, and not modifying it on a large scale. Instead of releasing a ROM, why not release a flashable-zip that will make required changes to the existing ROM that users are on. It will be unique and if you want, I can help you with it.
Summary: Why waste time releasing a ROM (~80MB) when you can release a flashable-zip (~10-15MB)?
Cheers.
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I just asked what is your base rom because we not have official cyanogenmod support. If you use only the cm repo to build a complete rom, it will be really hard, due the missing device specific parts. So, the question again (I hope it is clear): you use only the cm repo as base OR use unofficial cm repo from nAa (with working device specific settings/codes) OR use prebuild cm7.1 rom from x8 OR use prebuild cm7.1 rom from other phone. All options is a cm7.1 rom, but all need different works.
From the best to the worst:
1. Use the minicm repo from nAa (nothing to do to get fully working rom)
2. Use prebuilt x8 rom as base (basically not need to do anything)
3. Use the official cm repo (need lot of work because missing a lot of thing)
4. Use any non x8 prebuilt rom (basically the hardest way, need large amount of work with hw related things)
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We used to have official CM support till CM7.2 (I guess). It's stated in the CM Shakira page. And you can build CM7 from source as EET has explained in his tutorial. But in any case his best option (if he's going to compile from source) is to use MiniCM7 repo. It's the most updated one.
Plus it will support nAa-14 without any modifications.
The OP wrote this is cm7.1, not 7.2 As I know the official cm7 support is not complete, but my knowledge is NOT unlimited And we not have cm kernel.
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I just asked what is your base rom because we not have official cyanogenmod support. If you use only the cm repo to build a complete rom, it will be really hard, due the missing device specific parts. So, the question again (I hope it is clear): you use only the cm repo as base OR use unofficial cm repo from nAa (with working device specific settings/codes) OR use prebuild cm7.1 rom from x8 OR use prebuild cm7.1 rom from other phone. All options is a cm7.1 rom, but all need different works.
From the best to the worst:
1. Use the minicm repo from nAa (nothing to do to get fully working rom)
2. Use prebuilt x8 rom as base (basically not need to do anything)
3. Use the official cm repo (need lot of work because missing a lot of thing)
4. Use any non x8 prebuilt rom (basically the hardest way, need large amount of work with hw related things)
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I am using a prebuild x8 rom and modding it
And what is the original rom, what you use as base rom? If it is a stock kernel based rom, you need to change the drivers (sensors, gsl, egl, etc) to work with nAa kernels, if it is a minicm based rom, nothing need to do it will work with nAa kernel.
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I think he got over that problem by now. LOL.
No man its not working.
See I will explain my question once more. I am using this rom as my base rom: http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?type=stable&device=shakira
I want to make this rom compatible with custom kernels like nAa 14 and alfs etc so what should I do exactly?
If I have to change my drivers then please explain to me how to change my driver to these kernels and also tell me where to find the driver files in the rom and also tell me the download link for the drivers please.
I will be very grateful!
THANKS in advance. Please someone help me.