Hello, i rooted my phone, and it came installed with superuser, CWM and CWM tweaks. i installed rom manager and found out that it contains CWM too.
i have a screenshot here: tinypic.com/r/rh4y1f/5
What is the difference between these to and which one should i use?
Thanks in advance.
I'm not entirely sure what that App is. I imagine, when you click it, it would simply reboot your phone into recovery (CWM)—meaning they're the same thing.
Also, using ROM Manager to make backups, etc. is just like using CWM. If you make a backup in ROM Manager, it will be visible/restorable in CWM; likewise, if you make one in CWM, it will be fully usable in ROM Manager. Using ROM Manager to make a backup literally reboots your phone into recovery, makes the backup, then reboots into Android. It does the same thing, without you having to go through CWM's menus.
Alright, thanks
upichie said:
I'm not entirely sure what that App is. I imagine, when you click it, it would simply reboot your phone into recovery (CWM)—meaning they're the same thing.
Also, using ROM Manager to make backups, etc. is just like using CWM. If you make a backup in ROM Manager, it will be visible/restorable in CWM; likewise, if you make one in CWM, it will be fully usable in ROM Manager. Using ROM Manager to make a backup literally reboots your phone into recovery, makes the backup, then reboots into Android. It does the same thing, without you having to go through CWM's menus.
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ARe u talking about Rom toolbox? by jrummy16
It basically takes u 2 CWM as soon as u hit it
hit my thanks pls!!
darkkid85 said:
ARe u talking about Rom toolbox? by jrummy16
It basically takes u 2 CWM as soon as u hit it
hit my thanks pls!!
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Not sure. Whatever app that was in his picture, which was just titled "CWM". I figured it would do as you said, though.
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so i have had my htc hero rooted for a while now with unevoked and it has been fine well i decide that i wanted to put a custom rom on it because i could stand that my phone was so slow. so i download and installed rom manager and it went well till i rebooted after installing the zip. yes i wiped data and cache. i even took my sd card out while booting no luck. i tried different roms and yet again no luck. i hang on the boot screen even when i try to restore my nandroid what can i do to but custom roms on?
Did you flash your recovery image first?
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Did you flash your recovery image first?
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what do you mean?
when i opened rom manager and choose the rom i wanted to install it asked if i wanted to wipe and backup or something but i know i check both. then i install the zip in the recovery boot menu and rebooted and no luck. then i tried another rom and wiped before installing and still no luck.
At the very top of rom manager, you must flash 2.5.0.1 recovery. Did you do this first?
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andygu3 said:
At the very top of rom manager, you must flash 2.5.0.1 recovery. Did you do this first?
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so im just going to run the ruu and reinstall the phone back to factory setting. then im going to root it then when i open rom manager tell me what to do exactly so i don't hang again at the htc boot screen.
cbwhat said:
so im just going to run the ruu and reinstall the phone back to factory setting. then im going to root it then when i open rom manager tell me what to do exactly so i don't hang again at the htc boot screen.
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Sounds good, let us know.
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Sounds good, let us know.
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still get hang on the boot screen even when i try to restore my nandroid
cbwhat said:
still get hang on the boot screen even when i try to restore my nandroid
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So you flashed the clockworkmod recovery, booted into recovery and made a nandroid of your stock rom. Then, what rom were trying to flash?
andygu3 said:
So you flashed the clockworkmod recovery, booted into recovery and made a nandroid of your stock rom. Then, what rom were trying to flash?
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This exact same thing happened to me. What I did to fix it was pull the battery, then wipe everything (dalvik, data, cache), and then rebooted. My phone was able to boot then.
I'm having the same problem with rom manager. I just rooted my desire using the unrevoked method, then ran rom manager. I did install the recovery mode first, then backed up the rom. How my desire is just rebooting to the htc screen. How do I get out of this?
Many thanks,
Joe
dumb question, but how did you wipe everything?
Joe
Joefried said:
I'm having the same problem with rom manager. I just rooted my desire using the unrevoked method, then ran rom manager. I did install the recovery mode first, then backed up the rom. How my desire is just rebooting to the htc screen. How do I get out of this?
Many thanks,
Joe
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Hey, that's exactly the same issuing I'm experiencing now. Did you solve it? And if yes, how?
Well, a few hours later I solved it by restoring a backup and then booting went well. Also described in a thread on androidforums dot com (I can't enter the link here due to not having posted enough messages) .
cbwhat said:
so i have had my htc hero rooted for a while now with unevoked and it has been fine well i decide that i wanted to put a custom rom on it because i could stand that my phone was so slow. so i download and installed rom manager and it went well till i rebooted after installing the zip. yes i wiped data and cache. i even took my sd card out while booting no luck. i tried different roms and yet again no luck. i hang on the boot screen even when i try to restore my nandroid what can i do to but custom roms on?
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I don't know if this helps, but I'm pretty sure nandroids are specific to which recovery they were created with, I read that somewhere a few days ago. If you did not have clockwork before, I would try getting the recovery you used to make the nand, install that recovery and then restore the nand. Then try the whole wipe everything and get clockwork and go to town. If you haven't tried RA/Darch 1.7 recovery, I would recommend it, I personally like it better than clockwork, it seems faster, and simpler to use.
Exactly What "Il Duce" Said Will Fix Your Problem, Same Exact Thing Happened To Me, What I Did Was Go Back To Previous Version Of Rom Manager Then Flash Alternate Recovery, AND Regular Clockwork Recovery, Should Be Good After That!
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Using ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.1.0 what option do I choose to backup my current ROM? When I go into backup and restore I have multiple choices and I am not sure which is approperate and where it says Restore All (Be careful)....I decided I better make sure what exactly I am to back up and restore?
I believe the warning to be careful is because you do not want to restore system data if you are not on the same base rom. If you are just creating a backup so you can restore settings on the particular rom you are on, then back up all. If you are looking to backup apps, use titanium
gocats7 said:
Using ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.1.0 what option do I choose to backup my current ROM? When I go into backup and restore I have multiple choices and I am not sure which is approperate and where it says Restore All (Be careful)....I decided I better make sure what exactly I am to back up and restore?
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Are you in the Recovery mode or in ROM Manager? In ROM Manager I just choose to backup current ROM, then it restarts into recovery mode and does all of the work for me.
I am in recovery, not ROM manager but I guess I can do it through there too. As long as I get it backed up, thats all that really matters I guess. I want to do a backup so if I go to a new ROM I want to try I can just restore my existing one if the new one doesnt work out.
I've done that through rom manager with no problem. To me, that is the safest path. Good luck.
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Rom manager will not work with certain roms
trekie86 said:
I've done that through rom manager with no problem. To me, that is the safest path. Good luck.
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I rooted my Motorola Milestone with Super One Click, then installed ROM Manager. I did flash CockworkMod recoveries but I could not do the backup or installation of new Custom ROM. The phone always was back to the screen with the yellow exclamation inside the white triangle. If I use VOlume + Up button, it will appear the recoeveries with four options: reboot system, wipe data/factory reset, apply update.zip and wipre card partition with the info: E:cannot open cach/recoveries/command. I did try to apply updated.zip but it failed and say that it cannot verify the signature and installation aborted.
Could you please help? Thanks
Phone: Milestone rooted with android 2.2
Root: by Super Once Click
ROM manager: newest version
hwithv said:
I rooted my Motorola Milestone with Super One Click, then installed ROM Manager. I did flash CockworkMod recoveries but I could not do the backup or installation of new Custom ROM. The phone always was back to the screen with the yellow exclamation inside the white triangle. If I use VOlume + Up button, it will appear the recoeveries with four options: reboot system, wipe data/factory reset, apply update.zip and wipre card partition with the info: E:cannot open cach/recoveries/command. I did try to apply updated.zip but it failed and say that it cannot verify the signature and installation aborted.
Could you please help? Thanks
Phone: Milestone rooted with android 2.2
Root: by Super Once Click
ROM manager: newest version
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Dude, ROM Manager does NOT work on Milestone. You need to flash a Vulnerable Recovery using RSD Lite, install Androidiani Open Recovery, go from there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983516
skadude66 said:
Dude, ROM Manager does NOT work on Milestone. You need to flash a Vulnerable Recovery using RSD Lite, install Androidiani Open Recovery, go from there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983516
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Thanks, dude. In the list of ClcokwordMOd, i find out there is a row for Milestone. Click on it, I also am able to download a file of Recoveries which is specific for milestone. But it does not work.
One thing I would like to raise here is that after i cannot use update.zip any more. Cuold you please explain why? It also says "cannot verify signature"
Thanks
Because your phone does not have the vulnerable recovery installed. Look at the link I posted. It has everything you need to get up and running. Don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions.
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I did do as your instruction. But as i did the backup, it is stuck. the phone went to "system:dumping..." and stayed there in one hour.
I flashed the recoveries sucessfully. please advise
hwithv said:
Thanks, dude. In the list of ClcokwordMOd, i find out there is a row for Milestone. Click on it, I also am able to download a file of Recoveries which is specific for milestone. But it does not work.
One thing I would like to raise here is that after i cannot use update.zip any more. Cuold you please explain why? It also says "cannot verify signature"
Thanks
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The Milestone mentioned in ROM Manager / clockworkmod is probably the Alltel Milestone, which in reality is a droid 1.
Now that you have installed cwm, you have to remove it from your phone and then install Androidiani openrecovery. Before that you need to install vulnerable recovery from here using rsdlite.
Note that it may take more than one try to get cwm out of the system.
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I did do as your instruction. But as i did the backup, it is stuck. the phone went to "system:dumping..." and stayed there in one hour.
I flashed the recoveries sucessfully. please advise
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What did you end up doing after it hung for an hour? Because if you haven't flashed a custom ROM, you should still be able to boot (rooted) and you can try the Nandroid backup again.
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What did you end up doing after it hung for an hour? Because if you haven't flashed a custom ROM, you should still be able to boot (rooted) and you can try the Nandroid backup again.
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I take the batterry out of the phone and restart it again. It works normally but the backup is not done because i do not find out the backup under Openrecoveries folder. I did try the second time but it happed again and i had to take the battery out of the phone and restart.
please help
I actually had the same mistake as you before (using ROM Manager on our Milestone).
I recommend this:
1. Backup your SD card content
2. Reformat your SD (slow format)
3. Place the AOR 3.3 (Androidiani Open Recovery) files back in (use a fresh download if possible)
4. Perform Nandroid backup again
Note that there will be no "backup" content in your OR folder. Instead, you will see a new "nandroid" folder in your sd root.
Thanks dude. I find out the solution. I wipe all data + cache, then I download a fresh recoveries and then i did the backup again. It works well.
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I used androidiani and flashed cm7. then i tried ROM manager while i was unaware that it messes with the milestone. now i cant enter recovery at all!!!! Help!
lspdv1991 said:
I used androidiani and flashed cm7. then i tried ROM manager while i was unaware that it messes with the milestone. now i cant enter recovery at all!!!! Help!
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You have to flash vulnerable recovery again from here.
lspdv1991 said:
I used androidiani and flashed cm7. then i tried ROM manager while i was unaware that it messes with the milestone. now i cant enter recovery at all!!!! Help!
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You should not use ROM Manager to do the backup or flash for Milestone. please use Open Recovery 3.3. Download it and please delete CWM folder also. Please wipe data/facotry reset for doing backup or flash. (IMPORTANT). It will work.
I'm fairly new to the rooting business but I've been treading lightly. I have a few newbish questions that I need answering, and I thank you in advance.
Today, using Psouza's Moto-1-click tools, I restored my /system/app to its stock state, unrooted, reformatted, and then installed 5.6.890 (the official OTA version), followed by re-rooting.
I wished to make a full backup of the complete stock system, and so I purchased "Droid 3 Bootstrap" from the Android Market. I proceeded to boot into Recovery Mode and created a backup of my now stock system. I also went ahead and downloaded "ClockworkMod Recovery" from the market and paid for the premium version. I noticed that I can also make a backup from "ClockworkMod Recovery" in the same way that I made a backup from "Droid 3 Bootstrap."
Question is this...what's the difference between the 2? I know that ClockworkMod Recovery gives me the capability to flash different ROMS, which is the reason I purchased it (awaiting future ROMS, figured I'd just download it now). But did I have to download Droid 3 Bootstrap Recovery as well? Couldn't I have just backed up using CWM Recovery?
Basically, I'd like to know the difference between the two...in the most basic explanation, if at all possible. I'm still learning about all this and I really enjoy it, but I'd like to have a full grasp of what I'm doing exactly.
Thank you in advance.
Lyxdeslic said:
I'm fairly new to the rooting business but I've been treading lightly. I have a few newbish questions that I need answering, and I thank you in advance.
Today, using Psouza's Moto-1-click tools, I restored my /system/app to its stock state, unrooted, reformatted, and then installed 5.6.890 (the official OTA version), followed by re-rooting.
I wished to make a full backup of the complete stock system, and so I purchased "Droid 3 Bootstrap" from the Android Market. I proceeded to boot into Recovery Mode and created a backup of my now stock system. I also went ahead and downloaded "ClockworkMod Recovery" from the market and paid for the premium version. I noticed that I can also make a backup from "ClockworkMod Recovery" in the same way that I made a backup from "Droid 3 Bootstrap."
Question is this...what's the difference between the 2? I know that ClockworkMod Recovery gives me the capability to flash different ROMS, which is the reason I purchased it (awaiting future ROMS, figured I'd just download it now). But did I have to download Droid 3 Bootstrap Recovery as well? Couldn't I have just backed up using CWM Recovery?
Basically, I'd like to know the difference between the two...in the most basic explanation, if at all possible. I'm still learning about all this and I really enjoy it, but I'd like to have a full grasp of what I'm doing exactly.
Thank you in advance.
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I'm assuming the 'clockworkmod recovery' app is rom manager. Rom manager is best for easily downloading roms (if the developer sets it up on there, not all roms will be on rom manager). I personally recommend against using rom manager to do backups/restore/rom installs because it is known to cause some issues. So, my advice, just do it all manually to avoid problems down the road. All you need is the d3 bootstrapper app
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I'm assuming the 'clockworkmod recovery' app is rom manager. Rom manager is best for easily downloading roms (if the developer sets it up on there, not all roms will be on rom manager). I personally recommend against using rom manager to do backups/restore/rom installs because it is known to cause some issues. So, my advice, just do it all manually to avoid problems down the road. All you need is the d3 bootstrapper app
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Correct, the "CWM Recovery" I kept referring to is indeed Rom Manager, my apologies. So, in a nutshell, what you're recommending is; use D3 Bootstrap to create your custom backup, and use Rom Manager specifically for Mods only...correct?
I think he's saying to not use rom manager at all. You can flash roms from cwm recovery.
Edit: just to clarify I mean by booting into recovery using the bootstrapper and flashing a rom from there to avoid any issues caused from the rom manager
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Lyxdeslic said:
Correct, the "CWM Recovery" I kept referring to is indeed Rom Manager, my apologies. So, in a nutshell, what you're recommending is; use D3 Bootstrap to create your custom backup, and use Rom Manager specifically for Mods only...correct?
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I recommend to not even use the rom manager app, as everything can be done manually. Roms can be downloaded from forum sites. Just remember to do a wipe data/factory reset each time you flash a new rom. This prevents fc issues. On hashcodes blog you can get a modified version of the koush bootstrapper app that let's you enter recovery from bptools. That way if you screw up /system and can boot straight into recovery, restore a nandroid and you're good to go.
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I recommend to not even use the rom manager app, as everything can be done manually. Roms can be downloaded from forum sites. Just remember to do a wipe data/factory reset each time you flash a new rom. This prevents fc issues. On hashcodes blog you can get a modified version of the koush bootstrapper app that let's you enter recovery from bptools. That way if you screw up /system and can boot straight into recovery, restore a nandroid and you're good to go.
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I appreciate the responses. Could you explain to me how the modified version of D3 Bootstrapper allows you to enter recovery in case of a bootloop? What is "bptools" and how is it accessed if the phone won't boot up?
Edit: Also, what type of problems have been seen when using Rom Manager to flash Roms as opposed to a Bootstrapper? Aren't they both created by the same Dev? I would assume Rom Manager is just a more user-friendly method to flash Roms since it's so self-explanatory in the app itself.
Again, I appreciate the time you guys are taking to help me understand this.
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I appreciate the responses. Could you explain to me how the modified version of D3 Bootstrapper allows you to enter recovery in case of a bootloop? What is "bptools" and how is it accessed if the phone won't boot up?
Edit: Also, what type of problems have been seen when using Rom Manager to flash Roms as opposed to a Bootstrapper? Aren't they both created by the same Dev? I would assume Rom Manager is just a more user-friendly method to flash Roms since it's so self-explanatory in the app itself.
Again, I appreciate the time you guys are taking to help me understand this.
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When your phone is powered off hold the m button on the keyboard then press the power buttong(keeping m pressed) you'll then get a list of boot options. Volume down scrolls while volume up selects. Bptools is at the bottom. When you go to bptools then press volume up and enter it you will boot to clockworkmod recovery. This only works with the modified bootstrapper app. This way is much safer because its possible to soft brick the phone with the normal koush recovery and not be able to enter recovery. You'd then need to flash the xml files. The normal bootstrap app requires that phone bootloop before the custom recovery will kick in. As for rom manager, its had problems wiping data/factory reset I think. You can still use it, there's just a possibility of of the rom not working properly
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When your phone is powered off hold the m button on the keyboard then press the power buttong(keeping m pressed) you'll then get a list of boot options. Volume down scrolls while volume up selects. Bptools is at the bottom. When you go to bptools then press volume up and enter it you will boot to clockworkmod recovery. This only works with the modified bootstrapper app. This way is much safer because its possible to soft brick the phone with the normal koush recovery and not be able to enter recovery. You'd then need to flash the xml files. The normal bootstrap app requires that phone bootloop before the custom recovery will kick in. As for rom manager, its had problems wiping data/factory reset I think. You can still use it, there's just a possibility of of the rom not working properly
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Thanks so much for the info man.
I just rooted my HTC Vivid and installed CWM. First I wanted to start off by creating a backup of my rom, so I selected the "Backup Current Rom" option. I installed the the necessary utilities to create a backup. Finally, I was given the option to create my backup name. But when I select OK to begin the backup process, the phone reboots, and gets stuck at the HTC loading screen and doesn't move. Is there something I missed in order to create a backup of my current ROM? I've ran it like 10 times and it just keeps getting stuck at the HTC title screen and gets frozen there, forcing me to remove the battery to boot the phone.
Sorry if this question has already been answered, I just couldn't find this topic specific to the Vivid anywhere else.
Do not use CWM. Use another recovery like TWRP or WCX Recovery.
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Do not use CWM. Use another recovery like TWRP or WCX Recovery.
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Can I install those over the CWM recovery? Or do I need to factory reset my phone?
marc.bills said:
Can I install those over the CWM recovery? Or do I need to factory reset my phone?
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You should be able to install TWRP the same way you installed CWM...
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You should be able to install TWRP the same way you installed CWM...
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So I went ahead and installed TWRP using GooManager and it still just sticks at the HTC Splash Screen when I try to boot into Recovery. Any other ideas?
*EDIT: Actually, it started working when I flashed it with a different app. I think I'll stick with TWRP. Thanks!!
Yea you gotta use fastboot or the flash image gui app to flash it. There's also a kit in the dev forum that comes with recoveries and flashes them too if you didn't know
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